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As promised, here are pics of the "even-odd" thing that's happening on all the branches except the "triploid" branch. At first glance, some tips look kinda like they're going triple, but if you look close, you can see that it's the "even odd" thing.
This is what made me think the plant was "zig-zagging" and ready to start bud. Now I'm not so sure.
The Triploid Clone Project
Utilizing the El-Cheapo No Maintanance Cloning Method
Since I've noticed the triploid branch on this grow, I've been wanting to study it in more detail. So instead of fertilizing it, I decided to make a clone, and keep the log in the FREAK SHOW thread.
I cut off the branch as close to the meristem as I could get and stuck it in a jar of water. I saw that the 1st node didn't have a fully formed 3rd (leaf/branch), but the nub is there.
I prepared a clean pair of scissors, some cloning gel, and a bowl of water. I stuck the branch into the bowl of water, and underwater cut the leaves & branches from the first node. I also snipped another cm of the end of the branch at a 45° angle. Then I dipped it in cloning gel, and stuck it back in the water.
Now I wait. It sits on my desk under a 20w tiny bulb desklamp. No clue what spectrum. No temperature control. No humidity dome. No foliar feeding. Just a stick in a jar of water sitting on my desk, like the stick I budded in the post further above except with rooting hormone: As the water evaporates, I should see root growth. (This part could qualify for "Goofy Techniques", too)
Since I took the photos and started typing this thread, there's been a thread of cloning gel forming from the stick to the bottom of the jar. But batteries are dead in cam, and I'm outta cash, and the charger's broken. So no more good pics till I get batteries or a charger. Boo hoo. You'll hafta deal with webcam pics. Which is ok in this case.
Updates as things happen
scissors...?
how about a razor.... :)
iloveyou
Yes. :D I am aware the a razor is used in "traditional" cloning. But in addition to being a triploid thread, it's also a "el-cheapo no maintenance" cloning thread. Ook ook.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garden Knowm
Guys we have to get on top of this triploid-polyploid-whorled phytolaxy confusion.... the 3 branches per node is WHORLED. Polyploid may or may not even manifest itself physically.
The whorled purple star I'v got has FINALLY shown just a tiny bit of side branch development but already I think 3 weeks into flower... looking very purple... but honestly a bit of a lame lanky stick. I'll get some pics if the side growth becomes anything more than lil buddies.
True dat. Technically, triploid means just an extra half set of chromosones. And quadploid mrean 2 sets. Most commonly used for "seedless" fruits and stuff like that. And triplod x triploid produces sterile(?) diploid offspring. The most common physical manifestation seem to be the triple thing, tho, I think. And etc, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by stinkyattic
Triploid is just so much easier to say and spell, and sounds more descriptive to the layman, than alternating whorled phytolaxy.
I was under the impression that polyploidy in cannabis, when physically expressed, tends to show as single-bladed leaves similar to 'stress leaves'Quote:
Originally Posted by Volker
yeah but confusing since a whorled plant is not necessarily that way as a result of a polyploid condition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Volker
You mean something like this?Quote:
Originally Posted by stinkyattic
Yeah!
That plant is fucked. I'm surprised it even survived that long!
that's not a plant, that is one of those stick bugs that pretends to be a plant..
:)
Again, not really a freak, but interesting nonetheless...
I do vermiculture (worm bucket) to get my organic fertilizer for free. I tumble it once or twice a day to aid in the decomp of the vegetable matter I throw in there. Tonight, when I opened up the lid to toss in some used tea leaves, I saw some neat stuff!
On the left is some form of myocilial growth. It's a transparent tube that just arcs across. On the right is a hairy spikey purplish greyish mushroom thing. Tres cool! So cool I had to get a closer look.
Stinky: I have a plant with the fused leaf blade/s. it's the only leaf like that, it looks pretty cool. plants growing perfect tho and no more abnormalities to speak of. cool thread btw.
Well this ones kinda freaky, or maybe not - I haven't grown from seed that often. It's a bagseed thats anywhere from 5-25 years old, just found it rolling around at the bottom of a desk drawer and threw it into germination. Germed in 1 day, but took forever to pop out of the ground, and then another 10 days of just the cotyledons (sp?). It looks like it topped itself at the first node, but there is a tiny tiny set of leaves on that middle nub. In these pics it is 27 days old, and just now am I noticing any type of real growth between days. Since I got some room I figured I'd let it go and see if its a she
i bet that mushroom is linked to the tube or somethin underground,
did you know the largest living organism known to man is a mushroom... you woulda thought it would be a tree, the mushrooms were thought to be growing seperately, until someone made the discovery and found one giant organism growing underground, which sent mushrooms up to the surface at night... dunno why lol
heres a link and a quote...
http://www.extremescience.com/biggestlivingthing.htm
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In the state of Washington U.S.A. in the foothills of Mount Adams, a specimen of the fungus Armillaria ostoyae covers 1,500 acres and seems to be 400-1,000 years old. This is the largest living organism in the world.
When I used to mow lawns for a living, sometimes I'd find these crazy ass mushrooms at this one house I did every week. They had really weak thin white stalks, and a ribbed brownish colored cap that never opened. The cap was insanely sticky too, so I'd snag the mushrooms by the stem and throw them at things. It was cool, they'd stick and the string-like stem would just hang. By the next day they'd be shriveled up into something that looked like a small piece of dogshit lol. Fungus is crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Volker
Yes, I know it's whorled phytolaxy, and not triploidy. Anyway, first roots are forming on the tri-node clone.
Very neat! Are you changing the water regulary?
I changed the water once after 3 days. Going to change it once more over the weekend. I'm taking no special care of it. I wrapped a piece of construction paper around the jar, and set it on a table in the back where it gets an hour of sunlight, then ambient room light.Quote:
Originally Posted by stinkyattic
Tentative timetable:
1.7 - change water, weak worm tea.
1.14 - set into dirt, same location.
1.21 - set to veg, 24/7 in the aquarium.
Dunno where I'm gonna take it from there. Depends if the branches on the clone display the same tri-node thing, and if it's a girl. By then I should know sex on the parent plant.
cool I'm planning on revegging my whorled purple star and cloning, or pollinating her wiht something... maybe a white rhino.. those were full of mutations... see what happens just for hahas
i'd ike to run naked through your garden... LOL
my sage has the poly ploid thing going... after several weeks, she ends up have 3 and 5 blade leaves, but they're hit and miss... let me see if i got a pic...
hmm, seems i don't, however, it comes through in all of her clones, and the one bbxsage that i tested popped, and it now shows the same charachteristic! so i'm kinda excited; the pix i've seen of S.A.G.E. are single bladed, and the only thing i know about mine is it came from a bag of stuff my ex said was S.A.G.E. (but, he's a bs artist...). the smoke was very trippy and happy, even spacey... i'll snap a pic of the bbsage in a sec...
bbxsage...
Once more, not a true freak, but pretty & interesting.
I checked on the ladies, and I saw one of the buds close to the lights is starting to show p¡nk. Looking closer about the plant, I noticed other buds were starting to throw out the occasional p¡nk hair. I certainly hope this becomes more pronouced; I love it when ladies show p¡nk! :D
Here's a clone whom only it's mother could love...
Neat - I have a tomato (Rutgers Select) that just popped and it looks just like that - three "starter" leaves.. What is its significance, structure like this - is it considered a desired trait for some reason or just a chernobyl freak? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by kindprincess
I couldn't upload pics for the past few days for some reason, but anyway...
I didn't mess with the clone thing since these things work best unsupervised. So when I next checked - day 11 - I thought the root development was good enough for dirt, so in it went. In my excitement, I didn't take pics until after I had it in.
So now it sits in the back room, slowly chugging away (I hope) while I pretty much ignore it.
Volker... you don't clone?
:D Nope. I'm a seed grower. I figure if the stick in a jar can bud, a stick in a jar with rooting gel can clone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garden Knowm
Here's a couple of pictures...my mutant if you will. All of my plants have grown from their center on up...this one, however, had some kind of freak leaf in the center that prevented its' growth from that spot. Now, to compensate, the plant has begun to grow out from the sides. As a result, the side growth is now higher than the center growth which stopped two nodes ago. The plant was not burned, harmed or topped, just freak genetics I guess. Any ideas? Pictures aren't too clear, sorry. Peace.
hipro, I've seen that before too.
It's a neat trait... more bushiness in less time! lol
I have wondered what causes it too.. it has to be some failure of apical dominance; that is, the propensity of the main growing tip to always remain so until cut, at which time it ceases to release the hormones that supress other potential shoot sites.
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Originally Posted by Garden Knowm
That totally cracked me up, and I'm not even high.
Woo hoo! Another new term w/explanation! Cool! Thanky, baby!Quote:
Originally Posted by stinkyattic
Howdy everyone,
Just thought I would post a cpl pics of some mutant plants. This was the first time using jiffy peat pellets, and will also be my last. I germed 8 plants in them pellets, of the 8 only 3 have survived. All 3 are mutant in some way or another.
pic 1. is a plant that sprouted on Jan. 20th. growth has been painfully slow and its got 3 heads :wtf:
pic 2. is a plant that sprouted on the 23rd and is well just plain ugly
pic 3. sprouted Jan25th is the only one that looks fairly healthy, even though its very slow in growing and is very small for its age.
Just thought i would share my mutant plants with everyone. :jointsmile:
I figure they are still green and i've got room for them, so i might as well let them live. :thumbsup:
Keep em green :weedpoke:
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Awesome thread... here are some more freaks: International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums - FREAKS!!! post your freaks and grower anomalies
Freaky leaf.
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachmen...n-dscf0002.jpg
There's my freak :D
weakly vegged then thrown into flower with the rest of the girls...
Total yield was about 1/2 an ounce dry .
This plant is 4 weeks old and just started showing this weirdness. It has extra little blades growing out of the middle of all the new leaves. The first picture has a total of 12 blades.They're all even numbered now. This is from a seed of some Mexican brick weed. Anyone seen this before and know what causes it?
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here's one...
i have a pepper plant, and it started off with three leaves, then the main stalk just split on its own and now its a Y shape..? i might ge a picture...:)