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Originally Posted by Treetops
which pics are HOG then? or arent they up yet?
We just put Hog under 12/12 about three or four days ago, so I haven't taken any pictures of it yet. I can take one in the next few days though, so you can at least see what it looks like for now. Harris7, if you are reading this- could ya please post a pic for me? I am out of town for a few days.
sorry to say i dont have any good pics of it on the computer.
To be honest it was the slowest growing plant. This is due to us planting it in some chicken manure which burned it and brought the pH up above 8.0!
This plant seems to take pH swings bad when compared two the two other strains all given same conditions.
In this picture the HOG is the only one without buds, and is on the bottom middle. It also has a darker green and much smaller than the others.
i'll get some good pics up of it on boxing day when i go back home. with parents for xmas.
happy xmas all
harris7
ok thought I would update this thread cause it's been awhile. We thought we were having troubles with yellowing occuring in our flowering plants, but we are crossing our fingers that it's within the normal range, and they will finish just fine. I attatched some pics of our vegging plants. Pic one and two are of our plants under our MH. I also attatched two pics of our newly rooted clones under our T5. Yes, they are heat stressed. We don't have a good setup for that light- it's in our bedroom so we practically have to smother the light with blankets to keep the light dim so we can sleep=overheating our babies. We are hopefully gonna build a cab to put the light in, and therefore use it to it's full potential. Anyways, enjoy!
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^this last pic is the type of T5 we're using, btw
These are the pics of our flowering plants- only about 2 weeks left to go til harvest!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I should add that we are having to move all of our plants out of our apartment today cause our manager is entering out unit tomorrow morning. any advice on how to cover them up (like boxes, bags or something) so no one can see what they are, when we are moving them?
Hey, dutch.lover and harris7. Hope you guys are doing well.
I guess the boxes would be best, so they dont collapse on top of the plants. Bags or something unsturdy would probably hurt the plant. Good luck with the inspection.
That's the bummer about apartments...you don't own the place. Bummer.
Well, good luck. Try boxes. Large ones...like wardrobe boxes. Maybe a bit pricey if you can't find any used ones behind a store or something, but it would be worth it for the peace of mind, eh?
Looking forward to harvest pics. :D
The Fog :rastasmoke:
P.S. One more quick thing...I know you asked recently about the yellowing of your plant, and you were told that it was pretty normal for that time period...but to me...it just seems a bit too yellow...and straight. I guess what I mean is that the leaves seem to be not yellowing in the normal fashin that leaves yellow when they are dying naturally.
I don't want to scare you or anything, I just kind of don't agree with some of the comments that were said about it. I mean, I don't know what the hell I'm talking abou tanyway, but it just seems like they are lacking SOMETHING.
My edit time is running out so I'm gonna leave it at that. Hope you have a great harvest anyway.
yeah we still feel uneasy about the yellowing, but we are keeping our fingers crossed that it won't get much worse before it's time to harvest. We started to fertilize them quite a bit again, and the yellowing has slowed, if not stopped for the time being. I think they will be fine until harvest... We are starting a feeding schedule for all of our future plants tho, so hopefully that will help to sort of standardize things a bit and make it clearer what is going wrong, if something is going wrong.
Thanks for the visit!
Sure. No problem. I'm not sure if I have posted on here before or not, but I have been keeping my eye on the thread for sure.
Yea, I think it was a fert thing. I'm sure you will do excellently on the next one. The first one is always for learning...and it seems to me that harris seems to know his stuff. Actually, I'm surprised you are having this problem with him around. From reading most of his posts, he seems to be a semi-guru... :)
Standardize...mmmm sounds delicious. hehe :D
The Fog :rastasmoke:
Here, have some rep. :pimp:
Here are a few more bud pics- I know everyone likes those! These are from a strain called Dutch Treat. They smell really yummy, very citrusy and fresh- sometimes i want to eat them. lol.
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Originally Posted by dutch.lover
I say that all the time. :D Even open my mouth and act like I'm taking a bite. ;)
VERY delicious looking, your pics, there.
The Fog :rastasmoke:
Hey Fog- I just wanted to comment on how you said Harris7 is practically a guru. lol. I would agree, and the reason we ran into problems was that we couldn't really tell what the plants were up to... like we tried ferts, we tried flushing and no ferts, but nothing really seemed to fix the yellowing of the plants. That's why we are gonna start up the standardized feeding schedule. The nutrient companies don't recommend that you only water on certain waterings, they say to fertilize every water. This is working for my friends grow, but it is contrary to anything I have read before. I always thought you alternated plain water, with nute water. What do you think? Also, while I have your attention... could you take a peek at the thread I just started called Nothing I Have Ever Seen...
I know my opinion probably doesn't amount to much, but in my studies, it seems that using your chosen fert consecutively during watering for a week or so and then using straight water for a few days seems to work in allowing your plants to acquire the nutrients they need as well as allowing them time to process them and flush waste. Please advise if you feel otherwise.
that's what we always thought... having a schedule like fert fert water fert fert water...something like that. we kept having problems with burns and/or deficiencies, so i think we are just going to put the plants on a strict nute-ing schedule from now on (fertilizing every time we water), and then just flush them every couple of weeks to rid them of any waste/buildup that's accumulated. this system is working perfectly for our friend who is growing as well, so we are going to try that for a bit.
The best method IMO is to get your plants on a feeding schedule and watch the plants.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dead Lifted
So for example one might feed, every second day at:
250mL per feeding for 2 week
300ml for week 3
350ml week 4
400mL week 5-6
(for say a 3 gallon pot)
so you always feed at this, while at the same time watching the plant. If the plant starts to look a little dark (nitrogen toxicity) cut down the mL on the schedule.
If the plant starts to lighten up and look under fert'ed add in an extra day or add a little more fert each time.
Note: if you are using good quality synthetic ferts (and have good pH) you should never run into any problems other than N and Mg def. As these ferts have everything in the right proportions. N and Mg are used very very quickly by the plant and wash out of the soil easily.
by keeping it standard over time you can find out how much fert you plant will need per week and eventually get a perfect schedule for you strain and soil mix
Note: we use advanced nutrients (a very interesting company to say the least, it will and almost has dominated the nutrient business)
They would be worth your while to read about, they employ both Ed Rosenvelt and Dr. hornby and 5 other PHD scientists to analysis and create their products.
As well they use the medical status of MJ in Canada to test their products. They supply medical growers with plants/equipment/fertilizers and in house assistance. (something the fucking government should be doing)
all they ask is for a tissue sample every week. They analysis it and see if the plant is lacking any Nutes. Pretty sweet
Anyways the reason I brought them up is that they are currently developing strain specific nutrient systems. So soon (hopefully) when you buy Northern lights you can go pick up the A.N. and look up the specific mix that works for NL.
Now that’s kick ass.
(they also are developing nutes for food crops too)
i hope to work for them one day once i get my degree
i'm confused...we were keeping two male plants in veg until our friend set up a grow box at his place to keep them and harvest pollen. yesterday we noticed that a flower opened!!! umm isn't this supposed to happen when the plant is in flower??!?!? i haven't dealt with males before so is there something i should know that i don't? the strain is BC Big Bang (dynamite x bc big bud)....mainly indica NOT ruderalis (which is auto flowering and would explain what happened). So anyways...im hoping the pollen isn't viable in these males yet....can anyone shed some info?
males can drop pollen even in 24/7 photoperiod... and yes, the pollen IS viable...
love, brooke
*heart sinks*
we've got 4 plants that are really close to harvest so i don't think they will be affected, but it's possible the other 2 plants early in flower will be pollinated. i wasn't planning on growing a seeded crop, but Big Bang X with Dutch Treat and Big Bang X with Hog will probably produce some pretty sweet seeds. thanks for replying brooke!
if you are sitll early in flower on the others, you'll have a very limited seed production, as they won't have all of their pistils yet. so, don't give up, you may still end up with 90+% sinse...
what will help is if you spray the male down with water (h2o kills pollen) and mist your babies.
love, brooke
cool thanks...we have sprayed the males down a few times now, so now all that's left is to dispose of them! i hate killing canna plants for the record...
anyways, we might decide to take the pollen and purposely pollinate some plants after all, but we also want a nice yield coming up so we've got some thinking to do...
i was going to suggest that you breed, if you have good genetics. i've got my f1's started and having a blast! males can be a good thing too...:D that sounded bad...
love, brooke
The two crosses are actually very good
Big bang was the male. (big bang = big bud x dynamite)
So we got
Big Bang x Dutch Treat
Big Bang x HOG
Not bad if you ask me, I want to pollinate all of the two plants now and get a bunch of seeds and just keep that bud to ourselves, it’s only two plants.
Hey, dutch & harris...and brooke. :)
So, yea...I'm obviously not as well-read as harris, even though I think I've read a lot. I've also mainly focused on hydro for a while and just recently started to venture into the soil, coco, soilless types of mediums while reading up.
In the JOURNAL...with the 'soilless/hydro' setup, the nutes are given every time the res changes. Like harris said, once you find your number, you should be pretty decent with the levels due to the ratio already in the bottles. The only thing I've noticed have been mainly Mg def and some N def. See, harris knows his sh*t. :greenthumb:
harris, I've heard about AdvNut being cannabis-specific (along with the flack they receive for it)...and I'm very interested to hear how you like them once you're done. Sounds like you've already developed an opinion, though. That sounds wicked about the supplying plants, etc..and then getting tissue samples and testing nute levels. VERY cool. I just might have to do some research into that. :) Thanks.
That really sucks about your males...but yea, brooke also knows what she's talking about so, I'd be careful with them. Don't go shaking them over your flowering plants. :p hehe. If you didn't read my thread lately...one of the flowering plants went hermie later into flower...pollinated the whole crop...yet...the ones that were farther away and had less exposure, had MUCH fewer seeds...like almost none...just enough for breeding, but not enough to ruin the potency and yeild. The others closer to the perpetrating plant were chock full of seeds in some parts. Meh...live and learn...
Good luck finishing up your grow. Look forward to harvest pics. Those buds look nice. :) I should be adding some things to my thread soon because there are already more flowering and the NL & BG is growing! :)
Be cool.
The Fog :rastasmoke:
Our intension was to harvest the pollen, that’s why we kept the males around.
I really don’t care that much that our plants were pollinated, I would have preferred to have selectively pollinated particular buds. But alas
Thanks for the high opinion. The main reason I know stuff is because I have always been interested in plants, I’ve worked in a greenhouse, and I take plant biology and genetics in university.
Advanced Nutes, They claim to have the best products on the market (but who doesn’t) I’ve read a book called Bud INC which was very interesting. I know a lot of the people in the book and for what I know I can verify the validity of the text 100%.
This is were I’ve learnt most of what I know about A.N.
The book is so accurate about everything else, I trust it. I spoke to a cannabis lawyer friend of mine today who verified some of what I’ve heard about AN
You should also be warned that AN has a dark side.
It was started by Three men, Cant remember their names. These three men also “own” a black corporation called “The company”.
The company is a grow op company. They have a large network of houses, growers, trimmers, carpenters, drywallers, Plummers, electricians, thugs and so on.
They have this system, An outside donor “sponsors” a grow op. And fronts all the cash for it.
With this money “the company” rents a house, buys the equipment, often renovates the place to make it a big op, brings in their growers and so on.
(up to this point only 1 of the owners is involved Big mike)
At harvest, They bring in the second owner. HE’s got the trimmers and distributors.
The third guy is the muscle if this go bad.
That’s the dark side.
Now: back to the light side
The way I see it, it’s a black company trying to make it legal. This year their sales should it 100 million.
Obviously they have a huge stake in cannabis being legalized, their business with explode. Recently they have purchased some online pro-legalization websites and are pumping money into them.
So I think there a good corp to support IMO
Always interesting and informative to stop by this thread...:cool:
I thought I should add some pics to show all of the stages of the grow. As ive been claiming it??s ??all stages?
pics
1- Some freshly rooted Atomic Northern Lights
2- Some older clones under the T5 (Dutch Treat, Mud, HOG)
3- Our males :mad: there bc big bang
4- is our vegging chamber
5- is our flowering chamber
im gonna add something to harris's last post...for those of you interested in T5s. The clones shown under there right now have very long internodes in the middle of the plants. This isn't due to the T5 being shitty or anything, it has to do with the fact that those plants recieved very very inadequate light for about 48 hours (this occured when we had to move the plants outta our apartment, to a friends, and then back again). The T5s actually work amazing, as you can tell by the bushiness at the base of the plants and the tops. Just thought i would clarifly that for anyone interested.
Heres a little experiment were doing.
We??ve planted two clones of the same strain, Champagne, in one 5 gallon pot.
We take a lot of notes and document the height, size, # of growth tips, etc
We also will be documenting the yield, pot size, training method and any pruning.
Since were working with clones we??ll see if two small plants in a pot yields the same as one bigger one. Hopefully it will be more. The idea is that you will be able to veg for a much shorter time, well half the time right if your two smaller plants are exactly half as big.
Also, here s a pic of our temporary mother. She??s northern lights
It took us a long time to get growing this strain down, and by that time the plant grew in a manor that wouldn??t be worth flowering. So we topped it and are cloning all the side shoots out. Two more rounds of cloning then we??ll be doing some extreme LSTing and seeing how the plant reacts. Then we??ll snip her down.
It??s sad killing your plants, but you gotta be strong.
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1-mother NL
why not keep her as a mom?
We dont really have the space. I plant to mother her for a while. But we dont want to over do NL.Quote:
Originally Posted by brookerosebud
we have an interesting system.
currently were boosting 6 strains, in these stages
NL 1 mother, 5 clones rooting
mud bud, 1 vegging 2 clones rooted 10 inch tall
HOG 1 flowering, 1 clone
dutch treat 3 flowering, 2 clones
big bang 1 seedling 10 inch tall
champagne 2 flowering 3-4 clones
So right now were running through all the strains to see how we like the smoke. Then we might cut out a strain, probably not.
The general idea is to run through groups of the same strain so that when we get rid of it we have larger amounts of each. Rather than 1 oz of 5 strains. Have a QP of 1. As well we have different plants for each strain so we can compare the genetics better when they grow together.
So we got some Champagne that were going to run through in a bit.
We??ll probably mother that HOG clone (that ones just to keep the genetics)
Dutch treat is a very nice strain, we know that now. So we??ll cut a bunch of the two clones there and run a batch of that through after the NL clones we have rooting now.
Kinda see what I??m getting at.
Also, it??s an old wives tale that plants loose their vigor or turn hermi or male after several generations of cuttings. I??ve read this from several very reliable sources (breeding and growing books I have)
Were just trying to feel out the strains and make our investment back now. Then were going to cross them and start from seed again once we move. I hope to set up a breeding room right now, I??m actually taking genetics so I know a lot more about it in a few months.
EXCITING NEWS!
Just figured out how to work our microscope, and checked our 4 oldest plants. The trichs are mainly cloudy, with a few clear still, and a few amber! We are going to do a really thorough flush today. After we flush, we just wait a week and harvest? or is there anything else we should know?
wait a week, then turn off the lights for 72 hours. this will up resin by maybe 5%, but imo is deff worth it. thc degrades in light, so extra dark time helps to build it up some. not a huge difference, but a noticeable one...
Yes i've read that, 5% more is a lot!
Were going to flush today, What is the shortest recommended time between flush and harvest. And what is the optimal time.
Can effects of early harvest (chlorophyll not being broken down and such)
Be lowered with a good cure?
i don't think it's 5% total, but a 5% increase of your percentage (i.e. 20%thc would have an increase of 1% totalling 21% thc)
Here are some bud pics i just took now of our 4 oldest plants, the ones nearing harvest time. they're hastily taken and don't show the entire plant necessarily, but i think the close ups will give you all an idea of how things are lookin right now. each pic is of a diff plant.
enjoy!
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Note: pic 2 is the only pic of the entire plant. this plant was the one we were expecting the most of, but wow have things changed! it's now our stringiest plant with the smallest buds. it had about 30 tops on it when we put it into 12/12, so that shows more isn't better! our 4 headed monster is by far the best!
from a visual without seeing trichs, i'd say 10-17 more days...
Anyone have any thougths on these pics.
Dutch and I did a lot of work last night.
Cut 6 new NL clones of the mom
Repotted some large plants and flowered a nice big girl
the first picture is dutch treat, I've noticed this girl looks like she's reaching up to the light. I think its a good think, she only does it when shes happy, anyone know why.
I've noticed rooting clones do a similar thing, heres two pics of that.
And here are all of our rooting clones, were probaly going to have to get rid of some
Nice pics, harris7 (It pains me to keep typing your name with a small {h}...:p)
I'm loving the Dutch Treat. Beautiful! :D:D:D
Looking forward to the harvest in a while. :greenthumb:
The Fog :rastasmoke: