just seen this thread, i agree about the soil being suspect, i seem to recall somone else saying they had probs with seedling with that soil...good luck with the re-potting man
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just seen this thread, i agree about the soil being suspect, i seem to recall somone else saying they had probs with seedling with that soil...good luck with the re-potting man
right peps i should be repotting today long as i get the soil.. but i have 1 more question.. when i repot them should i put them back in there small pots as they are still small.. or should i put them in there next size up pot? its only like 2cm bigger but its like twice as wide
ps thanks to faithless bree babystarbud for the luck n evry1 who made the effort to help me... well i will let you all know the out come;)
How did you repotting go?
SuperThrive is causing this. BioBizz Light Mix is a 100% organic, LIGHT mix, it won't do that. And judging from what you said about the temperature being fine even though the HPS is 13 or so inches away, this is not your problem either. Seedlings are very delicate and you've added too much superthrive, too concentrated, this is exactly your problem. Taking into account that you didn't say you were using any RO water, the contaminates are also contributing to your problem. There is nothing wrong with Bio Bizz Light Mix, flush the pots thoroughly.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrberrys
I had a similiar problem with too rich soil too early with 3 clones.
I repotted 2 of them in flushed soil and the third remained in the same soil though I flushed that too.
The one that didn't get repotted remains about 3-4 days ahead in growth, so flushing was probably more efficient than repotting.
I didn't notice that this plant was leading before the repotting, though of course other conditions may have caused it to take the lead, though it seems doubtful to me.
I personally thought he should raise the lights, merely because his plants are sickly and need to recover from stress.
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You may have, BioBizz Light Mix isn't, so no. Seems unlikely to be a light intensity problem. SuperThrive is doing this.Quote:
Originally Posted by faithless
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I have no clue about all these brand names though, what they contain and what they do, I live in a different country.
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:confused: hey guys .. wellll i repoted 3 of them into mutipurpose compost for seedlings... now im hearing that light mix is ok n i shouldnt repot?? well i only used superthrive twice 1 drop per litre in 1.. n bout 4drops in the other... so guys should i just flush the other 8 repot them in the seedling soil or leave them??? im really confused now.. well on the repotting i tipped the babys out and removed as much soil with my clean hands as i could leaving few roots then planted into the seedling compost n added tiny bit of water.. sept 1 baby i pulled more or less all the soil from and left just the lil stivk baby.. mabe a lil root on the bottom trying to leave as little rich soil as possible.. i hope they will be ok
hey people.. my babys need YOU!!!! i get 1 person say even if you use a few drops of super thrive on ur babys in another thread that i wont hurt my babys.. now peps are saying the super thrives hurting my babys. then peps say the soil is to rich so i start repotting.. thrn others say my bio bizz soil is ok.. so now im confused and my babys are probly tripping right now.. all i can say is .. fuck bollock wank n pass me a drink
see how the re-potted ones do in a couple of days before re-potting anymore.
flush a few of the un-re-potted plants, and in a few days you will know what to do with the rest, or not :)
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I'm sorry, I don't have the same brand names in my country, so I really am not sure what super thrive or bio bizz does.
I suggest maybe you do some googling, I found this and people seem very divided on the product:
http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/l...714353.html?15
The soil you had seems to have been quite light on nutes, so probably isn't that: http://www.ebboflod.com/productguideline.htm
But if you just let them relax in the soil and the soil is not a rich soil, you should be alright. Repotting can stop them growing for a few days though.
Maybe some more people who have used these brands can help more.
How did the roots look? Soggy and brown or white and healthy looking?
Go light on watering.
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You don't have to listen to me although I'm right, but what's important is your crop dosen't die, so flush anything you haven't already transplanted, this would probaly be better than transplanting at such a young age. For the one's you have, don't give them anything but water. There's no need to flush hard the alternative potting soil, just water very generously. People are saying its the soil because that's all they really have to go on, and that's a common area of concern, but in this case its not the problem. Its very possible they could die but its best you not think about that right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrberrys
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Btw, are you measuring the temps at the plants or the general ambience temps?
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ok cool thanks for ur advice.. im just really worried bout them.. i hate not knowing exactly what to do to make my babys better..Quote:
Originally Posted by emmpey
temps above plants is like 28-30 c topsQuote:
Originally Posted by faithless
ok well i will go and flush the rest of them now.. would 1 litre be enough to flush them in the small pots they are in??Quote:
Originally Posted by MegaOctane12
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Have no idea how big your pots are, but I would flush them with about as much water as there is soil and raise the lamp until they get stronger. Also, let that soil dry out well before next watering.
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If you notice, when you first start flushing, the water coming out is yellowish from all the salts. Flush until it becomes clearer, this is probaly the best indicator of how much you should flush.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrberrys
the pots are bout the size of coffe mugs but square.. well i flushed with 1 litre in each babyQuote:
Originally Posted by faithless
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Hehe, well theyre well and truly de-nuted then.
Good thing they're that small, it'll dry out quicker, which makes any soil probs more manageable.
Just keep them confortable like a baby with a snivel till they dry out :thumbsup:
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well thanks for your advice faithless.. i have raised the lights to bout 18inches too.. im just really woried bout 1 out of the 3 that i repotted.. coz i practicly left it with mabe 1 tiny root trying to get the so called rich soil off.. i just popped it in the new dirt and covered some of the stem with soil.. does it sound like that 1 will die or could it grow more roots easy? as for the other 2 i feel good bout them but i left a lil bit of soil round the roots....... i been sittin with my girls for ages tonight just watching them makin sure they are ok.. well im hoping they dont die .. spose time will tell.. but i think next grow i will start my babys off in normal potting soil with some perlite so i know im good to go... as long as my babys survive seedlinghood i know i will be sweet n have a happy grow long as i get the girlys.. watch this spaceQuote:
Originally Posted by faithless
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I think the raising the lights will be good, just start lowering them carefully as soon as you see the plants are getting better.
It only has 1 tiny root, are it lost one tiny root?Quote:
coz i practicly left it with mabe 1 tiny root trying to get the so called rich soil off
If it lost one tiny root it should pull through, if it only has one tiny root, hmmm, only time will tell.
They can lose more roots when they're older and sturdier.
Anyway, you just learned how to re-pot, you are now more experienced ;)
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it only has 1 tiny root left... lol i learned how to repot long ago jus normally take all the soil n repot.. its a lot easier.. anyways i will update and let you and every1 know how or if my babys get on attal..:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by faithless
:thumbsup: good luck man!
have faith in your little ones mr berrys
hey every1.. just a quick update... my babys seem to be getting better and growing a little:D the flushed plants and the repotted plants all seem not a lot just a lil better.. but a little better is better then nothin in my book.. anyways when i can get my cam to work again i will update with some pics.... thanks to every1 that helped me you are all the best:dance:
welldone mr berrys i told ya to flush on page 1 of this thred it worked for me heres a pik of my babys when they was poor and a pik of now 2 weeks later shit cant find my updated piks but if you look at my new thread new grow grapefruit ull see aw good they are now just put them into 12/12 today
found them piks mr berrys
ello rood.. thanks m8... ye i just hope they keep up the good work... well i know im on the right track .... very nice plants you have there too m8.. i see the difference very nice:thumbsup: .. im just charging up the batts for my camera now and i will take a pic of my babys soon.. :)
stop playing that g-unit music around the plants they hate that shit. ggg-unot........=P
who said i play g-unit to my plants??? lol.. o coz you saw young buck in my avatar you just asumed i play g-unit to my plants .. hehe you silly young asuming grasshopper.. if you look at my avatar a bit harder you might see the name of the album is called THE CHRONIC.. thats why i have it as my aviator.. btw i play my babys more d block styles p sheek louch n jadakiss.. i must say they love it.. so young assuming grasshopper please exit my thread and go play with the traffic:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Djinn
why dont you lend me your mother and i will play her around my plants:dance: im sure they will love that hehehhe :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Djinn
ffs lmao well sead mr berrys
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Are you sure you have adequate drainage in thopse cups? The soils seems soggy and compact but it's hard to tell from here.
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thanks m8.. mabe i was a little harsh as djinns mother may be very nice:) ...BUT djinn surely is not very nice interupting my thread with his trashy comments...Quote:
Originally Posted by rood32
pps... pics may have to wait as my cam is being a little bugger at the min and is saying card full when its not hm.. not much progress anyway.. but.. they are geting better:D i will deff get some pics up when they take off even if i have to go round dj inns house and steal his camera lol:thumbsup:
hey faithles.. if your refering to the 2 lil seedlings above.. they was roods 2seedlings.... they are older and better now as you can see in his other pic.. but if you are refering to my babies in a previous posted pic by me.. then em i have nice lil drainage holes in the bottom... so that departmant is all good.. well the soil looks bit soggy on mine now coz i flushed them 2days ago but its drying up nice.. allso surprisingly most of my seedlings didnt even droop after flushing them..Quote:
Originally Posted by faithless
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Ok, cool.
Don't let the soil stay soggy now though. :thumbsup:
Keep it it dry out a little more on occassion, and shower it a little now and then, just to pamper the roots, but thats just me.
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ello every1... lil update.. pics as promised.. i got my camera working at last.. theres not a big improvment.. but its only been a few days since repotting and flushing.. n new growth looks nice.. i have 2 lil deformed babys.. 1 is starting to sort itself out.. i had a deformed seedling b4 and all turned out cool .. so i have lots of faith...:thumbsup:
ps sorry for bad shots.. but there just to show you guys the fight my babies are puttin up:dance:
heres some more shots.. 2 mutants.. n 1 baby recovering nicely:dance:
pps .. be nice
glad to see things are looking up!