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did you LST the one on the left as well? Yeah, I'm looking at at least 2 months of vegging if not a little more. Sucks to hear about your hermis, good luck with those, my plants already have many more tops than the one you had on the left, but that one on the right looks awesomeQuote:
Originally Posted by Splifted
I've never harvested before, but the one with the fewer big tops looks like its going to yield more total than the one with the lot of little tops, simply cause it has like 12 really big stems and thats it and one serious main one. I'll let you know which way works out better in a few weeks.
The one on the left was topped, which meant it stopped growing right there, and branched off in to those two colas at the top of that pic. The rest of the nodes below the top grew up into tops when we tied the topped part down. Count the pairs of two, each side has about the same number, but a couple of the ones that came up way from the bottom did so on the same side cause of bending. We must have cut it on the 6th node, I'll confirm next time I go look at them.
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I have one that was topped then LST'ed, one that was only LST'ed, and 2 that were LST'ed, then I FIM'ed and LST'ed all the resulting tops, cause they were fast growers. Check out the 3 budded tops I got from FIM'ing right before flowering.
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First one was one of the LST caused tops that wasn't FIM'ed.
Second one is one that was. Lol, we weren't planning on flowering, but they got big fast so we went ahead and did even though we had only cut them like days before. So if anyone was wondering, thats what happens when you don't wait for them to recover from topping before floweirng :stoned:
Also man, what kind of soil are you using and what you feeding them lovely ladies? They are an absolutely beautiful shade of green. Mine are kinda yellowing out a bit due to them not being fed nitrogen anymore and they've had a few slight mishaps along the way but nothing severe. So if you're looking at around 2 months total, how much time is that left before flowering? Not long huh? Your plants should be the size of mine in a week man, once they're that size they grow quickly. Isn't it exciting watching your babies grow up into big beautiful ladies? Haha I'm sure the first time is the best, just like with anything. You look like one noob who did his homework first man, congrats, I have seen a lot of "1st grows" on these threads and not many look that nice.
hey kevin,
do your plants have varying shades of green naturally or is it the pictures? you may want to check the deficiency charts that are out there if it's not in the pictures. keep it up!
I'm not exactly sure what you mean here, the newer growths are a lighter shade of green, but that's perfectly natural, other than that the plants are all the same shade of green, it could just be the light bouncing off of the mylar and creating the illusion of different shades.Quote:
Originally Posted by chicago_white_guy
I am using some generic soil mix from osh with 3/4 soil, 1/4 perlite and a pinch of dolimitic lime. Next time, I'm going to do closer to 50/50 cause I'm having a lot of problems with compaction right now. I'm feeding them Fox Farms Grow Big at around 6-7cc/gal right now, Liquid Karma about 5cc/gal, and Super-Thrive B1 (8cc/gal every other watering). Every third watering is just R/O H20, no nutes. At about 3 weeks I think I shocked a lot of my plants, some of them definitely had nutrient burn and they began growing 1 and 3-pronged leaves and stunted growth, so that delayed them a bit, noobie mistake, but they've recovered nicely and everything looks beautiful now. I really did do a lot of research before this, I'm hoping for 2 lbs. total harvest, that's about 2 oz's/plant, so I want to veg them as long as possible. Currently I'm planning to flower them anywhere between Dec. 10th - Christmas, but I'll just have to see, really it'll happen when 75% of my screen is full.Quote:
Originally Posted by Splifted
Thanks for all your compliments, I'll try and update the pictures a little more often, also if you want any pictures of anything taken let me know.
Your plants look beautiful!! :rasta: That one with 4 tops is a monster :thumbsup:
Haha, the similarities between us noobs is crazy. For our final transplant, we also used 3/4 generic organic soil mixed with 1/4 perlite with some dolomitic lime mixed in as well. And we fed grow big and big bloom & superthrive, every other watering, except the superthrive which was every watering.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan K.
I assume when you say you're having problems with compaction, you are talking about when you try to water it doesn't want to go right in and kinda pool up where the dirt has hardened? I had that problem, where the soil kinda bricked up and it wouldn't get wet under the surface and the water would just run down the sides of the pot instead of absorbing.
If thats the problem, try adding a dash of liquid dish soap into your water before watering, it acts as a wetting agent which nullifies the surface tension of the water, keeping it from beading up, and making it absorb more readily into soil. It also keeps any splashed up water from beading up on the leaves.
Dish soap is also used as an emulsifying agent & wetting agent when mixing up some neem oil to spray on. It allows the neem oil to mix with water, since you know water and oil don't mix, as well as making the leaves get nice and evenly wet, instead of it beading up and running off. Just a nice little trick i picked up somewhere.
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Originally Posted by Splifted
I was talking more along the lines of every time we water, the soil becomes more compact in the pot so we're constantly having to add new soil to avoid the roots being exposed. Does that make sense??
I'll look into the liquid soap, I think I'm going to start using molasses as well to give my weed a little better flavor. We decided to throw up the screen today so I'll let you know,
Kevin
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Originally Posted by Dan K.
We've been feeding with organic natural cane brown sugar, and as soon as we run out we're gonna switch to molasses. Can't wait to see that screen. I'm going to look at the girls tomorrow, I'll get more pics. 4 days makes such a difference during flowering.
Dan K. What type of lamp are you using?
Yeah- they look fine actually. Very nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan K.
As for the superthrive, you're going to want to lay off it very soon, so there's none left in the dirt when you flower.
This is a great looking grow. One of those early LST pics was just awesome. I can't wait to hear how that romulan comes out. Yummy.
We're using a 1000W MH/HPS bulbs with an air cooled hood. The air cooling helps but it still can get as hot as 83-84 in the room during sunny days. the last 3-4 days has been pretty cool so it's only been about 75-76 in the room. Our set-up is in the attic so the intensity of the sun plays a big factor.Quote:
Originally Posted by cture
I don't use Super Thrive, I'm using Thrive Alive B-1 (red), according to justaseed's ScroG grow he uses it all the way through flowering, so that's what I was planning on doing. LMK though,Quote:
Originally Posted by stinkyattic
Dan K.
P.S. The local dispensary we purchased the Romulan clone from had some of that same Romulan in stock for sale, and let me tell you it's out of this world. That's why we bought one of the last clones despite the fact that it was a pretty shitty one.
Thrive alive is about the same thing and I wouldn't use it either for flower, but I'm curious to see someone do a controlled with/without experiment. Anyway keep up the nice work! :D
Update time!!! WOO!!! Well, first off we threw the screens on, and, although it has been a PITA, we have successfully started training and watering them through the screen (thanks to a plastic tubing/PVC pipe attachment we made). The Snocap are all looking amazing, I'm thinking we'll flower probably in about a week and a half. As always, comments/suggestions/anything are appreciated.
Kevin
Hey dan,
have you been using the 1000hps the entire time since you planted? I have 12 I just planted yesterday, I put my 1000 on for about 6 hours then switched to my tube'd flouresants. Just wondering when you would reccomend to put my hps on.
Goddamn I have a bunch of pics to post but for some reason cannabis.com isn't letting me upload them, I'll keep trying but I don't know what's wrong.
As far as your ? goes, HPS doesn't really have the best light spectrum for vegging, that's why I'm using a MH bulb now and switching over to HPS for flowering, I don't know how good your fluorescents are but I would probably stay with those until you flower.
Hope that helps!
batch 1: the baby clones, the wilty ones were watered right after pics were taken...
1: Romulan
2 & 3: Goo
4: S.S.H
5: Grape Ape
here are all the recently ScroGged snocap, sorry if these pictures are a little small but the next ones will be bigger...
Hey, Dan K. Looking good. Looking forward to seeing them bud. I will be keeping up with this now, as I am very interested in seeing some scrogs. Last time I saw a good one was justaseed's, and that one is the grail to which to aspire. :thumbsup:
Kicka$$!
:rastasmoke: RastafarI
TGF
lol, that's how I feel as well, like stated several times before I am trying to model my grow as much as I can after justaseed, hopefully I can get half the results!!! LOL damn he had 3-4 oz.'s per plant, I'll be lucky if I can get 2!Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreenFog
I have a question about SCRoG'ing because that and LST'ing is probably how I'll be growing my plants indoors to try and get the most out of my lights. Do you just set up a screen and just switch to flowering when your plants grow through the screen? Also if you don't have clones is this method possible to do with male plants? I dunno how hard it'd be to cut out the male plants once they started growing through the screen without fucking it all up lol, I never really got interested in growing with an advanced technique indoors until recently. I realized it doesn't make much sense to try to grow plants traditionally indoors if you aren't gonna have alot of fuckin lights lol.
lol, too true about the lights. This is my first time doing ScroG as well, but from what I can observe/understand, I'm going to switch over to 12/12 (flowering) when it is around 75% full of tops. The goal is that the remaining 25% of the screen will be filled in the pre-flower stretch period. I wouldn't try ScroG without clones because of what you said, I'm sure it would be a bitch to cut a male out once it grew into the screen.Quote:
Originally Posted by orangeman
So far, I've been really happy with the results of LST, and now that I'm actually beginning my own ScroG, I understand how it works better and I think it has the potential to produce serious results. GL,
Daniel K. :jointsmile: :bong:
Ah alright, well thanks for the info :D. Btw those plants are lookin lovely! I can't wait to see them flower!!! :stoned:
Alrighty, the screen has been up for about 5-6 days now and it's starting to fill out nicely!! I think I'm going to switch them over to 12/12 on Tuesday or Wednesday, it's getting to be about that time. We transplanted the baby plants to larger 3 gallon pots in preperation for flowering, we're probably not going to get a whole lot from them given that they're so small but it'll be worth it no matter what:D
As always, comments/suggestions always appreciated, happy toking :joint1:
Dan K.
more pics, the last 2 are of super silver haze
In order: romulan, goo, grape ape
i don't know about anybody else but i like where this is going...:dance:
me too :giggity: :giggity:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cornelius
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lol some of these smilies are ridiculous
Hey kevin,
Any updates on your girls?! They look like they're doing really well in those last pics just under the screen. For your first grow you must've done some reading because that looks like a pretty decent set up.
I'm also doing my first grow and we probably started flowering around the same time. We've got 4 girls, one on the fence still (I think it might be a she) and we are LSTing 3 of those.
Anyway you really should update this log. My next grow will most likely be a SCRoG so I'll be following this thread for sure. Take it easy! :jointsmile:
-canuck
Hey Kevin, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, that's a nice grow you have going on...your screen has a wider mesh than I've grown with in the past, I like regular old chicken wire but yours looks nice and sturdy. Just to be sure you get an even canopy with no buckling of the screen tie it down to the floor with a cup hook or two and some fishing line or picture hanging wire. You will be suprised at how vigorous the growth can be during flowering...can't wait to see your pics in the next few weeks...peace.
scog is my favorite growing technique. with a 1kw scrog i can't wait to see the yeild!! i pulled close to a pound from my 400hps scrog regularly. personally with scrog i like to use fewer plants vegged for longer periods. also i never liked to scrog more than 1 seed plant under the same screen. they grow to differently(even the same strain). individual screens is a much better idea with seed plants, once you have a mother and use clones 1 large screen is the way to go. from my experience the more you train the first 2 weeks of 12/12 the better the yeild will be. also 1 inch plastic screen works the best. i have tried all different sizes and that was by far the best yeilder. i can't pass up the chance so here it is, this is what my scrogs look like about 6 days into flower just for an idea of what it should look like at that point ..... use twisties to tie(loosely) the branches to the screen instead of weaving, it's much easier/faster. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK i am looking soooooo forward to watching this grow!!
justaseed, I'm sure you don't mind hearing (again) that your lovely ladies! grow was really awesome. That was the first I heard of scrog but pretty much right away I started reading about it and LST because it's clearly so efficient for small spaces. Thanks for all the details about your feeding and everything too. I'm not following any one person's method exactly but I am reading many and trying out different things here and there.
-canuck :jointsmile:
sorry about the lack of updates, my camera fell from the attic while i was taking pictures and is now broken, fuck. also ive been at home the past week (away from my plants), but when I get back ill take pic for sure, theyre like 12 days into flowering now
i can't wait to see what they look like now. try to count all the tops you have at this point. i once took a pic looking staight down at the screen on about day 14 and used the computer to count the tops and there were well over 200 on a 2ftx4ft screen! imagine how many you're gonna get!!!!
Alright, finally an update, my ladies are about a month into flowering now and everything is going alright, I've made a couple of mistakes as this is my first grow, I don't think the yield is going to be quite what I'm expecting as the screen just didn't fill out at all like I had hoped. I've learned a lot, and I'm still going to enjoy my harvest!
How are the buds looking for a month in?
A couple more pics
The first one is what happens when you're a busy college student and you forget to water your thirsty plant for far too long :(
35 Days Into Flower
Or about that much, I flowered them Dec. 11th, so you do the math!
Everything is looking really good, I'm stoked and the buds are really starting to get fat and crystaly. Also, in case you can't tell from the pictures, the Grape Ape has started purpling, so I'm very excited about that.
The first two pics are Super Silver, the next three are Grape Ape
The next two are Goo, and the two after that are Romulan, which has by far grown to be the tallest plant
Alright, finally, the Snocap screen