race ... so what if im a cracker!!!

I hate people who say they are color blind. We're all a little racist

i didnt say im not a LITTLe racist, i just said that i dont think we need race to define ourselves.

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Originally Posted by Mer_de^Vert

I don't think people are fixated enough on race. There isn't a problem acknowledging the existence of another entity which is genetically dissimilar to oneself. To deny a fixation on race, or to opt in to the 'we're all the same' gang, is to deny the heritage of another, including the heritage oneself. We aren't the same. I am not you by virtue of my genetic inheritance and vice versa (you are not me)... IMO people who choose to deny the existence of variety within the gene-pool must be ashamed of who they were or what they have become. People should be proud of something, or many things. Why not be proud that we have differences and that we aren't all the same. Who wants to be a clone? I dun't want a twin and I dun't wanna be viewed in the light of another who claims to be my equal. Failing to acknowledge another 'race's' existence is an inequality in itself, especially in a world where there are far too many cowboys and cowboy wanna bes and not enough indians.

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Well said....I agree 150%!

Being white is hard, its not "PC" to have pride for your race. Always get blamed for shit. Most were raised to tip-toe around certain subjects that other races can discuss freely. People will always gravitate and imitate their own race "role models". Its actually uncool to be white now, WTF? White kids on a more and more consistent basis try to identify with other races and imitate the way they think they should act.

This is where our culture is all fucked up, people seem to think entertainers are some sort of superhuman role model. They end up assimilating some very poor qualities so they can "fit it"....if your poor it isn't your fault its the man keeping you down, crime is "cool"...there are a ton others. If you set your mind to something in time you will achieve, be your own person. Don't conform to what society says you should be.

i like being a cracker.

you can savour me with some gruyere cheese or some shrimp dip.

Race does not separate people so much as culture and religion which are basically loyalties to old ideas. It is human nature to seek an identity and to make generalizations like stereotyping and it takes a lot of education in an enviroment that encourages free thinking to overcome natural and ritual predispositions and then greed and politics as well.
The road to understanding and tolerance is long and trecherous one for humanity. It has only taken but a few steps in its journey to enlightenment. We can only hope that we don't engineer our own demise before we can see our way to world peace.

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Originally Posted by graph

People kinda see race and culture as the same thing, and it's not. Race is very simply the color of your skin, but your culture means where you came from and your peoples' common experiences and belief. It's true that when different cultures collide, bad things can happen, and that most successful marriages occur between people with similar backgrounds. It's not a good thing or a bad thing, it's just how it works.

I had to learn that for a psychology paper. I'm not nearly that intelligent.

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I disagree. I come from a white upper-middle/lower-upper class background. My wife was born and raised in a poor village in China. Our "cultures" couldn't be more different. Yet we have a wonderful marriage that's going on 10 years. Why? Because we've had the intelligence to prevent our cultures from "colliding". Instead we've allowed the two to mesh together to form our own little culture. We may be having spaghetti and meatballs for dinner, but chances are we'll be eating them with chopsticks.:D

I see mixing cultures to be similar to stirring up the gene pool. There's good points and bad points to all cultures. Mix them together and keep the good points of each, throw out the bad points. If you don't have some exposure to other cultures the bad points will just contine on and on. Pretty soon the culture will end up like some inbred Hillbilly who'se family tree has more loops than branches.

I have problems with people from other backgrounds and cultures. It just so happens they are usually from a different race (yes I'm white). I don't like the way they act, dress, talk, walk and the list goes on. It doesn't apply to all of them but a great number of them I don't like for these various reasons. Not because they are a different color but because they are so different than me in all aspects of life. I cannot and do not want to except them as friends or have anything to do with them for I feel they are and would be a threat to my family and my values.

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Originally Posted by rhino44

I have problems with people from other backgrounds and cultures. It just so happens they are usually from a different race (yes I'm white). I don't like the way they act, dress, talk, walk and the list goes on. It doesn't apply to all of them but a great number of them I don't like for these various reasons. Not because they are a different color but because they are so different than me in all aspects of life. I cannot and do not want to except them as friends or have anything to do with them for I feel they are and would be a threat to my family and my values.

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^^^^ funny stuff...sounds straight out a KKK handbook. Better go hop in bed with your sis...she won't threaten you.

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Originally Posted by rhino44

I have problems with people from other backgrounds and cultures. It just so happens they are usually from a different race (yes I'm white). I don't like the way they act, dress, talk, walk and the list goes on. It doesn't apply to all of them but a great number of them I don't like for these various reasons. Not because they are a different color but because they are so different than me in all aspects of life. I cannot and do not want to except them as friends or have anything to do with them for I feel they are and would be a threat to my family and my values.

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It's sad to see such ignorance in this day and age.

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Originally Posted by Bodom Children Of

^^^^ funny stuff...sounds straight out a KKK handbook. Better go hop in bed with your sis...she won't threaten you.

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Sorry no KKK here. I have friends of different races but I'm not gonna sitback and act like I like all the shit that's going on. I have eyes and ears. You can go on believing that everybody can sit around and sing koombayah if you want but it just is'nt going to happen, regardless of what I think. Until the social inequalities that plague us are solved it's gonna be pretty damn hard for the majority of us to mesh well imo.

Race is a social construct to keep us divided..another example.. dems vs repubs..there is only one race...the human race..

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Originally Posted by Fengzi

It's sad to see such ignorance in this day and age.

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How is not wanting to associate with people because of their general attitudes and the way they carry themselves ignorant? Its hard to be white now in day....black pride..good for you...white pride...your in the KKK.:confused: . That's not directed at the KKK comment. If your a white guy by your self and there is a group of thug looking black guys (or skin heads if your black) leering at you a little down the street would you say oh maybe they want to hold my hand and smoke with me...no, I'm sure as hell going to feel threatened. This go's for all races before I get called racist. If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck I'm going to assume its a duck.

we are all one

human

racism is fueled by negativity

its one thing to have pride, but its another to think your better

racism pisses me the fuck off

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How is not wanting to associate with people because of their general attitudes and the way they carry themselves ignorant? Its hard to be white now in day....black pride..good for you...white pride...your in the KKK.:confused: . That's not directed at the KKK comment. If your a white guy by your self and there is a group of thug looking black guys (or skin heads if your black) leering at you a little down the street would you say oh maybe they want to hold my hand and smoke with me...no, I'm sure as hell going to feel threatened. This go's for all races before I get called racist. If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck I'm going to assume its a duck.

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Not wanting to associate with people because of their attitudes and way they carry themselves is in no way ignorant. But to simply discount all other races/ cultures, stating "I have problems with people from other backgrounds and cultures" most certainly is. I'll admit I have absolutely no desire to hang out, or even come into contact, with a bunch of thug looking black guys. But that doesn't mean I am going to avoid blacks all together. And, I wouldn't want to hang out with a bunch of thug looking white guys either. I agree that " If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck I'm going to assume its a duck" but I'm not going to assume everything with feathers is a duck.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying white America should just open it's arms to all the various aspects of other cultures. Hardly, some aspects of other cultures are pretty fucked up. What I'm saying is, if we ever want to solve the "social inequalities that plague us"; then all cultures need to stop being so resistant to accepting other cultures, as a means of preserving thier own culture. Actually, I think that White America is much better in this regard than many other cultures. And, if you look around, you'll see that out of the various non-white immigrant groups in the U.S., it is those that have allowed themselves to assimilate (while still retaining their own culture) that have done best for themselves.Which brings me back to my original point that cultures need to mix.

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Originally Posted by Cyclonite

How is not wanting to associate with people because of their general attitudes and the way they carry themselves ignorant? Its hard to be white now in day....black pride..good for you...white pride...your in the KKK.:confused: . That's not directed at the KKK comment. If your a white guy by your self and there is a group of thug looking black guys (or skin heads if your black) leering at you a little down the street would you say oh maybe they want to hold my hand and smoke with me...no, I'm sure as hell going to feel threatened. This go's for all races before I get called racist. If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck I'm going to assume its a duck.

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i concur :D

affirmative actions got white males these days by the balls. reverse racism goes even as far as, black history month, black scholorships, black colleges (segregation?!!? wtf), black jobs...the list goes on, getting benifits because ur a minority is a fluke and a joke, if a person, no matter their race or gender deserves a job, and will perform that job better than someone eles regardless their race or gender, they should get the job, to bad it doesnt work like that, if theres uneven ammount of blacks on in a firehouse or police sqaud, the ncaa is ontop of their ass, i dont wanna sound racist, im not race biased, im just looking at how fucked up society is becoming....

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Originally Posted by Mer_de^Vert

I worked for a 4x4 manufacturing giant and to say that white people don't enslave black people anymore is far from the truth with that in mind. Every day the process leaders and process managers would crack the whip. It wasn't a Bull Whip, it was the threat of being fired for incompetence while being over burdened with roles to fulfill that didn't match the allocated time..! errrrr And those being whipped were from a range of genetic backgrounds. different guise? similies and metaphors, not literally; that would be too simple

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thats so much fuckin bullshit...they cracke dthe whip by threatening them to be fired?...dude lets get real...the mexicans are replacing everyone, and they work alot harder for alot less...now we got affirmitive action putting blacks in places they dont deserve, in todays society equality doesnt mean who evers the most competent gets the job, now its if theres 5 white people, that means theres gotta be 5 black people to, just so its "equal"

not only that but now i gotta live my life with black constantly assuming i owe them something...i owe them because my great great grand father beat their great great grandfather...i had fuckin control over that...i view people equally..society creates these barriers of inequality, just to uphold a twisted sense of equality, it is over with, u show me a black guy with scars from a whip that a white man put on there....u cant...theyre all dead...i dont owe them shit...

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Originally Posted by Kryzco

we are all one

human

racism is fueled by negativity

its one thing to have pride, but its another to think your better

racism pisses me the fuck off

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Couldn't have said it better myself and actually is about the ONLY thing in this thread that goes with the guidelines.

Have a good one!:thumbsup: