check out my LST procedures on my plants i applied it to all my plants and will post pics of my full set up tomarrow.
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check out my LST procedures on my plants i applied it to all my plants and will post pics of my full set up tomarrow.
Santacruz, hey, just curious. You were growing from clones or did you start w/ seeds?
How did you go about getting the clones(friend/shop?) or seeds?
i got my clones from a friend, but it was a one time deal sort of thing. if you are a medical patient you can get them at cannabis clubs through out CA. I am going to start using seeds and cross breading soon though.
I had to flip my lights into 18/6 today from 24 because i needed to use my sulfur vaporizer which can only be used in the dark. i am planning on switching to flowering this weekend and wondered if it was bad for my plants to go through the rapid time change. any info is appreciated! has anyone used a sulfur vaporizer before?
switching from 24 to 18/6 is fine...
do you have mold or fungus? Why are you using a sulpher burner?
Why can't you use it when the lights are on?
cheers
i have powdery mildew, and it was reccomended that sulfur burners were the best way to get rid of it naturally and it also works for pest control. the reason i have to use it in the dark is a mystery to me, thats just what it said in the instructions. my question about the light timing was that switching from 24/0 to 18/6 to 12/12 all in the same week is going to effect my plants.
cool.... keep us updated on the MILDEW and the effectiveness of the burner.. I have always heard great things about sulfer burners!!
cheers
I have a Hortilux 1000w Super HPS. Haven't flowered with it yet, but they have grown like mad even in veg under it. I like it.Quote:
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Wow, you truly do have a beautiful room, Maybe one day I can upgrade to such a perfect room. You have done a great job, Keep up the good work!
alright its still wednesday on my watch, and that means time to post another update on my grow. alot of things changed since last week. i decided to install my ventilation and air cooled lights. i was worried at first about the tempature dropping to much if i air cooled my lights but i made the right decision. my room is in between 76F and 68F which is very ideal growing temps. i also installed a carbon filter attached to my exahust and a sulfur vaporizer to take care of the mildew problem i have been having. im still new to the sulfur vaporizer so any details or opinions on the best way to use it or what to do would help. i used it but the mildew is still there; do i wait for it to dissapear on its own or do i have to wipe it off? one other thing is i Killed a plant almost :( by knocking my oscillating fan over. lucky enough it didnt kill the whole plant (there is a pic bellow). I also tied down all my plants to apply LST which was very time consuming. chiggity check-it out yo!
oh yeah, im flowering next sat. once i can afford my lights. can anyone give my a hypothosis on how much i will yield?
Whoah i cant believe i missed this one.. this is an awesome grow.. nice job mate..
Santacruz, nice plants!! Are those under 1000w HPS ? I'm setting up a growroom in next couple of days n was thinking of 1000w lamps to cover an area of approx 9' x 9', you think this would be enough for the 14 seedlings i have?
go with 2 1000w w/ switchable ballast. those are under 2 1000w MH and im switching them to HPS this weekend.
all the tops on my plants are turning a brownish color. whats this from? are they gowing to die?
i think it might be that my lights are to close, even though their air cooled. right now their around 18" - 24" above my plants
Here are some pics, my leaves are wilting as well.
Your lights should be fine, I have a 1000 watt MH and a 1000 watt HPS in the same hood, my plants are only 18 inches from the glass. My room is 6x5 and 6 or 7 feet tall.
My plants started doing that " wilt " and getting brown crap on some of the strains. Every strain I had reacted different but my problem was pretty much I didnt use a " mineral matrix " so I was lacking some key elements in my soil. Possibly are they running low on fertilizer? Anyways good looking grow , what day did you start these again? They look similar to mine , except my norther lights is almost 20 inches in veg :X
Cool using 3 gallon pots also it looks like? Nice to find a similar grow your room looks just like mine! I am only growing 6 though since I'm a medical grower in Oregon. Could you send me your fertilizer plan so I could compare?
my plants are in 5 gal. and im also a medical grower for two patients and the local club. my ferts are 5:5:5 down to earth all purpouse blend (water based) which im using at half strength since most use 10:10:10 at quarter strength. i did so much things in my grow room this last week its hard to tell whats up. do you think i will need secondary nutes or are the primary NPK enough? i started oct 1st i think the same day as you. my plants were at 18" but i had to tie them down last week because i was going to lose product from them being so tall. are yours clones or seeds? if seeds your plants will double in hieght when you flower. so your plants will be like 4'. I need to flip mine ASAP (once i can by HPS bulbs). i reccomend you do the same. that would be cool if we harvested together. do you have a log? if so link it to me!
IMHO,, by the looks of the plants,, you maybe over watering. My biggest piece of advice,, would be to let it dry out before watering. Your in containers,, so it will be very easy to tell when to water. Get used to feeling the weight of the plant and container. That will be a good indication of when to water. When not allowing the plants to dry out abit between waterings,, you are asking for big problems.
so if anyone could help me with the browning on the tops of all my plants it would be greatly appreciated. here is another picture. (click on it and once it inlarges go to the lower right hand corner of the picture to zoom in even more by clicking the squae w/ arrows.)
sorry here are the pics
When the plants are over fertilized, the symptoms first appear on the newest of growth. Its really hard to sit here and see a definate problem. Whats your water schedule? What is the ppm of your fertilizer program? What is the humidity and temps?
I just went through more of your photos. They definatley look to be over fertilized. Marijuana when over fert.,, gets the drooping curved leaves. They fold downward at the sides which is what you have.
you'll get so much more that you'll be glad you took the 2 mins to lower the bulb :) why not go for it? i like what brooke says.... grow or no grow. there is no try. makes me think to keep giving it my all :)
will they revive? i think my room is way too dry so i am going to put a bowl of water in the room over night. i have to check the ph and the humidity tomarrow. i hope they are going to be ok.
Hey Cruz.. when did that happen? Whatever is happening needs to be stopped fast....
Have you been thoroughly watering your plants...?
Each plant should recieve at least 1/2 gallon of water per watering.. and you should water every 3-10 days depending on your room temp and plant size?
cheers
keep us posted..
so it looks like it was a nutrition burn; this probably happened since it was an uneven ratio from food to water since the food doesnt mix well (you need to shake it up) with the water. it looks as that the brown shade on all the new growth is growing out which is a good sign, and hopefully my plants will restore to full health. i set up a cloning / mother room in my closet and seems to be working. ~ if you remeber i almost killed one of my plants by smashing it~ i tried and saved the branches that were detatched and i had this old cloning case but only three mediums, so i tried to clone in soil which wasnt very successfull. it looks like two of the three clones in the natrual rubber medium made it but thats it. pretty good ratio for the fact i didnt know what the fuck i was doing, ( i cut, dipped um, and watered). so im keep em' moist and they poped backed up after a couple days.
I went to the store and got some HPS bulbs, new nutes, humidity moniter, and a ph tester today. i will start flowering once my plants pick up again. check me out later! Thanks for all your help! Check out this book i've been going off of. it has a lot of good info.
>>>>those are white widdow mothers in the clone room :)
i dig your pictures!!!!
Glad you were able to catch the problem SC. I know the feeling when your plants are giving off warning signs and you dont know what the damn signs mean.
looking at this thread is weird. I was reading through it and reckognizing my grow room in your photos. I have the same white plastic and silver ducting. I am also running two air cooled 1000 watt hoods like yours and have a carbon scrubber. Your photos just seemed very familiar.Plants will bounce back no worries bro. I know because I stressed mine pretty bad right out the gate, just a few weeks later and they are blasting off. I was laughing when you said you fell on your plant and almost killed it.:angelsmiley: :yippee: I fell on my plants too. :( I fell on like 6 of them. I broke some stems and squished some leaves.:mad: A few lost the soil out of the pots!:cursing: :sadcrying But these things bounced back too 2 weeks later All the plants are healty and fully filled out :thumbsup: .Lucky for me I had a few plants in my setup that were ready to become moms.:D They were gonna be topped anyway:smokin:
Did you switch to HPS yet? I am using combination spectrum SolarMax bulbs. I love these things. They are HPS bulbs that output a small percentage of light in the MH spetrum. It is so much easier on my eyes. The light is really bright but it seems much more like natural lighting so it doesn't bug me.
Plants are looking good though. I cant wait to see how it buds out. Keep the pics coming and hit me up if you need anything.
-Jay
Hey SC, I was just looking to see how our setups differ and noticed you are not running Co2 yet? Are you planning on adding it? All you would need to do is get an A/C unit and you would be set. You would be able to saturate your girls. I believe cannabis can use anywhere from 2000 to 3000 ppm of Co2. Fresh air is like 300 ppm. That is the weak point in nature. We loose lumens bringing plants indoor but we can make up for some of the loss with a Bottle of Co2. Speed up your harvest AND grow bigger and better buds. A piece of equipment that pays for itself is a good investment. I would like to see you get as much as possible from your effort. This stuff is not growing itself.:weedpoke:
yeah, i want to get co2 but those release regulators are so expensive, and i would probably need two of them. i might just wait till my harvest and then upgrade for my next grow unless i get an extra $500 sometime soon. i havent switched over to hps yet because i am waiting for that burnt growth to grow out just to make shure their ok. once their out of shock i will start to flower them. isnt the desired CO2 ppm 1800? how much do you think i will yield?
I would be looking to pull 4 lbs from 2000 watts. I am OK with 3.5 but 4 is the mark for me.
. 4 pounds off only a 2 light room? lol. You should be happy with just 3 pounds bro. Unless your using multiple lights,, like 4 or 5,, you proboably wont get 2 pounds plus per light. The plants feed off all the lumens in the room when there is a high number of lights. Otherwise,, you are just asking for 2 much.Quote:
I would be looking to pull 4 lbs from 2000 watts. I am OK with 3.5 but 4 is the mark for me.
How long should i wait till i start feeding my plants again?
You want the ppm of your CO2 to typically match the ppm of your nutrient level. So at the height of your plants flowering (4 weeks in or so), when your PPM is around 1500-1600 or whatever, then you want your CO2 to match.
Remember with CO2 that you cant just leak it into the room. You need to cut the exhaust off, let temps rise (90 degrees!!!), and let the CO2 soak for around 45 mins-60 minutes (some people do more). Then exhaust for a period of time, then repeat over and over all day. If you are having a heat problem, this is something to think about and the reason why people use sealed aircooled lights. Also remember that you wont want to start CO2 until buds form and youll want to cut it out 2 weeks before your harvest or the CO2 will COMPLETELY rob your buds of taste and smell. Its horrible!
I just wanted to mention something about your CO2 pricing too. Im assuming your in the area of your name...so you have easy access to Craigslist.org You can find an insane amount of equipment (sometimes for insane prices) for sale. In fact about 75% of my equipment has been obtained from people like you and me. Out of the 30 people Ive bought stuff from, every single one has been incredibly cool and very chill (a key factor in our business). To give you an idea, I got my CO2 tank for $60 and my regulator for $50, and the other lines, etc for around $40. $150 for CO2 (and it even came half filled!). Ive seen PPM meters go for under $200 and Ive even seen $1300 plant controllers for go less then $500!
Remember too, your room must be completely sealed for CO2 (especially near the floor as CO2 is heavier then air). 1800ppm of CO2 is not very good for you.
Oh and remember, growth that has been damaged will not repair itself. As soon as you see nice new green growth, then your plant is ready. Start light and build your way up. In my experience its far better to under fert your plant then to over fert it and lock the stuff out.
PS. I would change over to HPS as soon as possible. MH is horrible for budding. You can always change one bulb first if your worried about switching over. But your plants look very established, I wouldn't worry about stressing them much.
Thanks for the help RACERX, your the man!! im going to craigs list right now.....
Good post, RacerX. Very good. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Have you seen the JOURNAL? :D
:rasta: RastafarI
TGF
could i hook this to a co2 tank and use it for fertilization w/ a timer?