what will happen when we die?

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Originally Posted by Nullific

Bullshit.

Smoking marijuana increases the amount on melatonin in your brain significantly, as does meditation.
Many cultures have used psychedelics for spiritual insight for thousands of years. A thing to note is that with powerful hallucinogens like LSD, DMT and Salvinorin individual reaction to the substance varies widely as if the drugs effects are customized according to your personal brain chemistry, set and setting. There is a big difference between using these substances for mere reaction, and using them for insight.

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trying to justify yourself huh? and your incapacity to be happy without drugs hmmmm, It's fine. HAHAHAHA no please, don't have me as an enemy, I just said what I believe in. I know you respect that. I just gave out information and I'm not going to fight over different opinions :) I knew someone would speak those things you did; our natural normal biological structure etc, and old traditions where drugs used to help 'calling' the supernatural forces. but you see, all I wanted was achieved. just take a look at that message board and think a bit about what you find there. that was all really, because I find it interesting that a person who says being the reincarnation of another who did more drugs than all of us together would think this way. isn't it at least curious? for me it is :)

peace
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isn't it Seratonin? and what is melatonin? sounds like a mix between melanin and seratonin..

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Serotonin is a neurotransmitter responsible for things such as mood, melatonin is a hormone that helps control body processes such as sleeping and waking.

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trying to justify yourself huh? and your incapacity to be happy without drugs hmmmm

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No you dipshit, im trying to say that psychedelics have played an important role in human civilizations predating thousands of years and to say that "any other substance that alter one's perception of reality will NEVER let you get in contact with your deep spiritual energy and force" and "you need to devote yourself completely to your spiritual nature. with drugs that is not possible because drugs transport you far away from reality and that is a step backwards" is absurd.

If you have a drug free spiritual path good for you, but don't dare spread the misinformation that drugs play no role in spiritual experiences.
Experiences have been achieved from music, fasting, meditation, dreaming, prayer and psychoactives. These substances are here to help us better our understanding of the human mind. I believe they deserve respect and should not be used irresponsibly so how are you gonna tell me that im trying to justify my "incapacity to be happy without drugs"?

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because I find it interesting that a person who says being the reincarnation of another who did more drugs than all of us together would think this way. isn't it at least curious?

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I don't even know what the hell that was supposed to mean.

Well, a week ago I was smoking a joint and got good and high. I decided to meditate and contemplate buddha's theories on enlightenment, and how to reach it. and after a while, I suddenly started percieving enlightenment, understanding it, in a way I never had before, on a much deeper level. I think a big part is that marijuanna eliminates all the negative feelings (at least for me), and freeing yourself of those feelings is the first thing you need to do before enlightenment.

when i die i hope to be cremated and have my ashes put in the soil/growing space for the best most potent sticky icky weed ever created, and then i hope my son smokes all of it and gives some to his friends and them blows smoke out and says "your one trippy mother fucker dad"


btw im really stoned rite now...lol peace

i agree with that guy, it changes the way your brain sees reality...its hard to comprehend the existance of a god becuase we are humans. its hard for us to understand alot of things on drugs, much less the great mystery of life...i just believe in god with slight doubt but full devotion

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Originally Posted by koshea

i just believe in god with slight doubt but full devotion

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wow! i think I know what you mean

The concept of a God is hard to get your mind around. I mean even if you are a "Big Bang theorist, you have to think before the "Bang", there was something there to go bang and who put that stuff there?

I am a God person and I am truly humbled to think that there is a being that is so great that he, she or it put in place.

There are days when I feel "it" and other days I feel like a turd floating in drain runoff. But according to the Bible, it is about faith in the low points and it is that faith that shows your reverence.

Is there evil? Hell ya (pardon the pun). In fact, Evil proves the existance of God. Logic dictates that there has to be a counter to Evil and likewise, a counter to good or for that matter, God

So the question is where do we go when we die? I pray it is to heaven and live in the presence of God. And if Armegedon goes down when I am alive, I pray I am fighting on the forces of good and that I never deny Jesus.

P.S. I am a little stoned. ;-)

The concept of a God is hard to get your mind around. I mean even if you are a "Big Bang theorist, you have to think before the "Bang", there was something there to go bang and who put that stuff there?

And one could argue what was before god? god was always there? Then the universe could be too.

Is there evil? Hell ya (pardon the pun). In fact, Evil proves the existance of God. Logic dictates that there has to be a counter to Evil and likewise, a counter to good or for that matter, God

"evil" is not only relative, but is only created by the minds of those who commit it. those minds are the result of genetics and environment. The counter balance is whatever society deems ones actions as "good".

I don't mean to be disrespectfull or anything, it's just how I feel. the whole concept of faith to me seems like a nice way to keep people from questioning logically. and if god in fact exists, I don't think questions are anything he should disaprove of since he can't innevitably be disproven.

I am absolutely sure we come back. I know someone who has been leading a big discussion about this, and proving it. I welcome you to join the Quest if you wish, I know someone who can provide almost all of the answers we ask here. She is absolutely amazing ;) just like the beautiful plants we got here, oh yeah

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My beliefs lean towards reincarnation too, but we can never be sure. There isn't any "proof" to speak of, just things that seem like proof to those who lack further information, reasoning, and in some cases a lack of critical thinking.

From my experiences, there is an after live, a place our spirit goes after we die. I was there, i saw it , my heart stopped beating for between 10- 12 minutes. I was technically dead. The "other" side was the most beautiful place , with an amazing loving feeling, is the best way to describe it. Everyone who i've known , who's died, was there. I couldn't go to them , i was stopped before i got there, [ it wasn't my time} . I did speak to God, learned alot, but i was told it wasn't my time yet so i was "sent" back. this was my experience , I don't have any physical proof, only the vivid memory , that has changed my life.
peace
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btw , God is a women

yes, God is female.


now let me ask something,
is this why Science and Church don't get along?
think about it.

god is hermaphrodite. and when we die, we die. nobody knows

christian god made man in his image, so unless god is retarded and left the tits off adam, god is a male. so there! but seriously who knows. im sure sex is no longer pertinent across that ehtereal realm whatever it may be. i hope i get to go to other planets and stuff, check out different civilizations and do what i want when i want. that would rule. or getting reincarnated as part of a different worlds people could rule too. im sure its NOT exactly like before you were born though. who came up with that? unless....maybe it is the same?

i think if you do enough drugs you ascend. like hunter thompson.