Tried Cannabis, Bad Experience

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Originally Posted by Zoosh

how much did you smoke each time ??

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Alot, I was smoking with friends who smoked regularly

Smoking weed is sweet, and its killer when you get so fucked up for your first well lots of times. But I like it now that I'm a very experienced blazer. I know my limits, I know how high I will be. I don't mind that much that I have to spend more to get as high. Cause I know how to enjoy it and what I like doing when I'm blazed.. I don't sketch out like I used to, before I was just like shiiiitt, and if people around me sketched I would sketch worse. Now I'm very calm and can control myself to be sober whenever I want. Anyways, good luck kid, try it a few more times smoking it and you will like it, maybe once you get more experienced you can try hot knifing and eating weed. Until then take it easy and know your limits. The first time I ever tried hot knifing and eating weed were at the same time. I got really baked, but enjoyed it and knew what I was doing. Theres my two cents.

mmm chronic

I'm sure this guy is into weed now as much as I'm into guys.

yeah dude if i were you i'd wait till my parents were out of the house (if you still live with them) and then make a doob tube (toilet paper roll stuffed with dryer sheets - gets rid of the smell) and then put something on TV or listen to some chill music with 1 or 2 friends, and SMOKE it this time out of a glass pipe. unless you are inhaling and not sucking in the smoke you will most likely be ripped:smokin:

just don't give up after one experience man! after all even you said this could be a life changing thing, so why would you want to throw that away, if it was for the better, and miss out on something so great?

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Originally Posted by pu ekot

Alot, I was smoking with friends who smoked regularly

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took me bout 6 or 7 times to get high. i inhaled right, i smoked 2 bowls to myself, bubblers, joints and nothing. then one night i took a hit and was blown away and stoned out of my mind

what are you doing on this site. o and maybe next time you shouldn't spend so much money on something you have never done before.

NARC!

haha just kidding. the first few times i tried to get high i didnt really get anything, just feeling weird and kind of nauseous at times. The first time i truly felt high though was when i smoked some hella good weed at Bonnaroo last summer. shit fucked me up.

keep at it! :rasta:

"We should have used the real, fresh, potent stuff I bought."

That cracked me up. You obviously dont know much about weed.

Fresh bud is noy potent, at all. The THC is activated during curing.

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Originally Posted by Billionfold

Coughfake picshuhmhum.

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Was that warranted?
then again who am I to say anything, look at the ass I made of myself in this thread...:(

@ So you did it just to be part of the lifestyle, to be accepted?

Not really. I wanted to do it because of the experience. If I had wanted to try cannabis just because it would make me accepted, I would have done it a long time ago.

@ Why did you spend so much money on it?

Smoking seems kinda dirty to me. I try psychoactive substances for the experience, not the administration part. That's why I looked for alternative techniques to take the substance, including buying the vapor genie. This alone shows that I might be at odds with most cannabis users.

@ You should have known cooking would be too strong!

Yeah it was way too risky for a first time. I had read about how strong it was when people ate it. The problem is .. too little or much ... you take it all at once. The problem is concerning dosage. Variable tolerances + variable potency of weed = imprecise measurement. I should have started with .1 gram like the Green Dragon thread hinted at. The final dosage recommended was .12 to .24 grams of chronic (after being made into a tincture).

At that point, I was frustrated that the other method we tried wasn't working. In retrospect, I was too desperate to be moderate.

@ Why are you still here?

I'm still trying to understand what happened and I'm still kinda interested in the whole magic substances thing. For me, the whole drug issue is primarily about two things:
1) exploring our existance.
2) civil liberties.

I'm just trying to figure out why people risk so much for this plant and why they like the experience so much. Besides, how long do you actually think I can stay away from cannabis? Most definitely not my entire life.

@ The fresh stuff...

Yeah I should have chosen my words more carefully. I know cannabis is dried. I meant fresh as in recently purchased and reliably potent. You can't tell me that a little bowl of ganja sitting in a car for a number of months, through cold nights and hot days, exposed to vicious drafts of air, would be top-quality by the end of it. I know that light and oxygen = THC destruction.

@ Pics

Maybe

@ Was your experience really intense?

To me it was. It had a huge effect on my memory and my thought patterns. Then time started repeating and going backwards. No matter how hard I tried, I couldn't remember anything. I'm still planning to write it all up.

"@ Why did you spend so much money on it?

Smoking seems kinda dirty to me. I try psychoactive substances for the experience, not the administration part. That's why I looked for alternative techniques to take the substance, including buying the vapor genie. This alone shows that I might be at odds with most cannabis users.
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i understand what u mean by this but smoking is the most common form and the high of smoking compared to other ways is different experience. i recommend smoking. a bong would be good since it filters the smoke if thats what u mean by dirty

Light is thc destructive? I thought you need light to grow weed...

Anyway dude, you need to smoke a Joint or 2. Even if you think it's 'dirty' ;)

Mabye the cheese on the crackers was all mouldie? :)

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Originally Posted by Billionfold

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If you don't believe me about the light, read this:

http://www.clinchem.org/cgi/content/full/46/11/1846

you sound like a fucking loser with no personality to me cant really blame that on anyone but yourself. and if you wanted to just try it you would have just tried it, not bought a bunch of shit to try to convince people you were a pothead, like you said you did.

how can you say what is reliably potent if you have never smoked before also. god damn dude you really really are a loser you need to try making a friend instead of just searching for something that should suddenly be your hobby and who you are. i think that might be the cure for all your hobbies. i dont think you prefer to hang out with just one person i think it is that people dont like to hang out with someone like you:thumbsup:

Haha, I'm sorry, but this is 'Poseur 101'.

Quit hiding behind your proper grammar and come out from the shadows, my new friend.

The point is that there was no reason to buy all those needless 'toys' until AFTER you had gotten high at least a few times. It's only then that you can truely appreciate those items, and not just lure in some poor helpless child to watch you eat weed and flip out.

And you said you "try psychoactive substances for the experience, not the administration part", but what other substances have you tried exactly? And no, sodie pop doesn't count.

Sorry if I came off like an ass, but to me, you came off like some wanna-be high school hot shot. Try smoking it next time, and then come back with another well-crafted essay crammed full of useless adjectives and your all-too-annoying robot-like personality. ~

You should try drinking anti-freeze. It's supposedly the trippiest thing ever. My friend did it and said he started seing ghosts and this guy with a hood and a scythe. Trust me man, it is so cool.

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Originally Posted by fikusroot

You should try drinking anti-freeze. It's supposedly the trippiest thing ever. My friend did it and said he started seing ghosts and this guy with a hood and a scythe. Trust me man, it is so cool.

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Are people really this stupid?:confused: :confused:

If by stupid you mean awsome than yes.

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Originally Posted by Its a Plant

Haha, I'm sorry, but this is 'Poseur 101'.

Quit hiding behind your proper grammar and come out from the shadows, my new friend.

The point is that there was no reason to buy all those needless 'toys' until AFTER you had gotten high at least a few times. It's only then that you can truely appreciate those items, and not just lure in some poor helpless child to watch you eat weed and flip out.

And you said you "try psychoactive substances for the experience, not the administration part", but what other substances have you tried exactly? And no, sodie pop doesn't count.

Sorry if I came off like an ass, but to me, you came off like some wanna-be high school hot shot. Try smoking it next time, and then come back with another well-crafted essay crammed full of useless adjectives and your all-too-annoying robot-like personality. ~

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Be careful or birdgirl's gonna make you feel guilty like she did me.

Crap.

I read what she said.

And you're right.

Lol, she was right though. Normally I don't feel the need to 'blow up' like I might have. Shoooot she's good. ~

edit - - Inferius, the Gizmo is very cool. Too bad everytime you posted, it didn't make a little Gizmo noise, cuz he was so cute.

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Originally Posted by Billionfold

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Be that way.



cannabis campbellcoughpostwhorecougghmorethanme

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I thought we were all poking fun at each other.

Alright, I'll go next.

Graph coughlearningdisordercough

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Originally Posted by Inferius

Be careful or birdgirl's gonna make you feel guilty like she did me.

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you crack me up. You always do. I didn't mean to make anyone feel guilty. Just maybe to lighten up a tad.

that was a long story that i did not read completely. spend more time smoking ganja and less time writin life stories with perfect puncuations and grammar.

I'm going to ignore Suhl's immature little diatribe against me.

But to Its a Plant, I did kind of deserve it.

I tried Salvia Divinorum before cannabis and I enjoyed it more.

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Originally Posted by Snorbel

I'm going to ignore Suhl's immature little diatribe against me.

But to Its a Plant, I did kind of deserve it.

I tried Salvia Divinorum before cannabis and I enjoyed it more.

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Try to let assholes like that roll off your back.

Its A Plant does have a point, though it could have been said in a nicer way. It really is idiotic to spend hundreds of dollars on smoking equipment when you have absolutely no clue how you'll react to marijuana, or if you'll even like it. And you say you've tried Salvia and enjoyed it more? My friend, you must have had a very small amount of not-so-potent Salvia, because a true Salvia experience is not even remotely comparable to smoking weed.

Also, vaporizing and eating is really not the way to begin your journey with weed, in my opinion. When you vaporize, it's cleaner, of course, but you're only activating the THC; not necessarily all the other cannibinoids that contribute to the normal high felt by smoking directly, through a pipe, joint, blunt, or bong.

If you're still interested in truly experiencing marijuana and seeing if it's for you, I recommend smoking it straight, through a pipe. You may need a few times for the high to really hit you.

Anyway, I hope you can disregard the rudeness of the insecure, the stupid, and the insensitive. You'll find people like that no matter where you go. I would just hope there'd be less among the stoner crowd...guess not.

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Originally Posted by birdgirl73

I hope he'll give it another try sometime, too. And I hope he will come back here as well.

But I wouldn't blame him at all if he didn't, frankly, after reading some of the harsh responses he got. It's so important to let others have their own experiences, even if they don't correspond with ours or agree with our beliefs. Some of you who were the harshest with him surprised me because you're not usually that way.

Best of luck to you Snorbel, and please don't let this exchange permanently color your opinion of cannabis or cannabis users in a negative way. Sorry you had a bad experience!

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I really like this and most other responses from you birdgirl. Good luck on your career goals. I believe in live, and let live. If he wants to garner that prejudice being harsh isn't going to change anything but release more hate to an already hate-filled world. I'll shut-up now. Bitch at me now, haters.

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Originally Posted by Billionfold

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Be that way.



cannabis campbellcoughpostwhorecougghmorethanme

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campbell hasnt been whoreing as of late :/

trust me, my advice was for your own good. if you go around acting like that (trying to make friends by researching their hobbies, doing what they do, then spouting about how much you know about stuff you have NEVER done) no one is going to like you. your first experience with weed shouldnt be coming to a message board. so ignore my diatribe:rolleyes: all you want and youll probably die alone, sitting in front of your computer doing a little research. and hey thats cool too man......

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Originally Posted by Snorbel

I love learning about new things. I love figuring out parts of the world I never knew existed before. I loved learning about cannabis, the plant, the history, the culture.

I'm obsessive. I jump from hobby to hobby, interest to interest, and devote myself to it night and day until I lose interest.

I don't really know what got me started. I'm not very social, so I never went to parties and didn't really fit right into a group. I would only hang out with one other person usually.

It was probably when someone I met offered to smoke with me. I had seen all the clues before: a bong here, some people high there. But it was fascinating to see someone pull out a glass pipe, find a nice little spot in the trees, and blow out that large, pungent cloud of smoke. I thought I would try it, but changed my mind that time.

I forgot about it, but it opened me up a little bit to the world. I got preoccupied with work and life.

I was interested in the plant. The War on Drugs. The chemistry. The tactics of the different sides, cops and dealers. National differences, Canada and Amsterdam. The whole culture. The taboo of the word "marijuana." The size of the whole issue I had ignored before.

Fast forward to 2 weeks ago. I had gone through great pains to get some bud. I spent many dollars on accessories. It was so cool. I entertained my fantasies of being a cannabis advocate and marijuana connoisseur. I visited hemp stores. I sought out glimpses into the forbidden realm of drugs, from items in retail stores to people on the street.

Everything was set up perfectly. I knew everything. I knew I would love this holy herb. It had made me bold and adventurous already. I loved what it had done for me, and I hadn't even tried it. It made me not scared to be different and have my own opinion.

I heard the first time high is awesome. This was just the start of a new life, or so I made it out to be. I made a pact to not try it alone. I would find a friend that would be interested in chilling and enjoying the plant.

I found someone. It was exciting. The opportunity came, he showed me his stash, he had lower quality stuff, I had chronic. I showed him my toys I had invested in, enough to prove me a pothead, but I hadn't even taken a puff.

We talked about MJ, set up chairs, set up a table, got out the gear, and the required glasses of water. We had some fruit.

Then we started our session. Ground up some of the dank stuff. Vaporized one bowl. Didn't feel much at all. I heard the effects were subtle, but I also heard that the first time you got high you would know it. It was easier to laugh, but I didn't notice much else. We packed and vap'ed the next bowl. We were having trouble working the vaporizer. But when we could see and taste the vapor air, we knew it was working.

I wasn't feeling much at all. I knew it hadn't hit me. He had more experience, so I asked him how he was feeling. He said he was feeling something, but I thought he was just being nice. I pressed him and he admitted he wasn't stoned.

It was getting later, but I was determined to have this work. I had planned everything and I was goddamn well getting stoned. Why the hell didn't it work?

(In hindsight, I realized we used different weed to vaporize. When I had trouble finding weed, a friend gave me one bowl that had been sitting in his car for god knows how long. Subject to improper storage and extreme temperatures, I conclude it had lost all its potency. We should have used the real, fresh, potent stuff I bought.)

Firecrackers. I convinced him that I knew a simple and reliable way to cook cannabis. I knew all the culinary pitfalls, I had done so much research. He had tried cooking on his own to no avail, but he had also had special brownies that definitely worked. It was late and he knew the high would last a long time, but I insisted that it would be fine. We headed to the grocery store. Saltine crackers and organic peanut butter, check!

We ground up about a gram of chronic and made four crackers. We each ate one. So we had .2-.3 grams of bud.

I had no idea it could be so powerful. After he left is when I ended up having the worst experience of my life. It was most definitely a bad trip.

Afterwards, I had a greater appreciation for life and normality. I guess it's not for everyone.

I wasn't silly enough to thrown everything out, but I knew I may never try drugs again. The smell of weed, before curious, now makes me nauseous. I now have some sort of loathing towards the herb.

And people said it was enjoyable, relaxing, enlightening...
I don't know what to believe anymore.

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Allow me to clear this up for you. Out of all the research you have done, there is vital information you did not recieve. Nobody feels the affects the first time (cannabinoid receptors have to become activated in the brain before you can get high, it may take a few times)! Also, the first time you have zero tolerance and have the ability to get the highest. Now as I can see from reading above you understand that eating it is more potent (the affects are about three times as strong). The reason you felt it the second time is because you had your receptors activated from the first, but eating before ever getting high is a no-no. Another thing is that alot of vapes our there hardly work (although volcano vapes are simply amazing) and that could be the reason for your buddy not feeling it as well. If I were you I would recommend rolling a .5 gram joint and only smoking half before continuing.

Cheers-:thumbsup:

I didn't like it until the 3rd time I tried it

now I don't know where I'd be without it