Christian Pot Smoking Minister

Your wish is my command but you'll have to do one thing and thats wait. Nov. 29th at 10:00 am the court case will start.

http://angeljustice.org/article.php?list=type&type=11

Scroll down to 'United States Supreme Court'. Click on the first mention under that, the Writ of Certiorari. Go to the bottom of page 24. We're the last footnote before the 'conclusion'.

Page 24 (bottom)

6 Likewise, the decision below has been cited by an individual
seeking to force the DEA to return 5 ounces of marijuana seized by
the DEA. Don Nordâ??s Response Opposing the Govâ??t Mot. to
Dismiss at 10, People of the State of Colorado v. Nord, No. 04-CR-
26 (D. Colo. filed Mar. 29, 2004). The court of appealsâ?? decision has
also been invoked by two churches seeking an injunction preventing
the United States from enforcing the CSA with respect to
their cannabis activities. Complaint (Count 6), Religion of Jesus
Church v. Ashcroft, CV 04-00200HG (D. Haw. filed Mar. 24, 2004).

I'll be praying that we win so that way you will be conviced. But on a state level the THC Ministry has won 40 cases out of 41.

Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ and Cannabis

Mike
I hope you win too. Asscroft and that whole group of drug/deas are jailing americans over their use of a plant, god's plant, while alcohol and tobaco companies go on killing people. go figure. best of luck to you. Some day , when you have some time, i'll tell you a true story about my visit with God, I died while being operated on, it is quite amazing.
peace
heart

my question THC is how can one of your guifts be to smoke legaly, MJ is illegal, and as far as i know illegal is illegal under the classification of which pot is, meaning religion or not, its illegal

Koshea-

Freedom of Religion, Amendment number one. If in the religion it is manditory to smoke cannabis then by our Countries own Constitiution it gives us that right to partake and grow cannabis. Making it not illeagal.

Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ and Cannabis

Heart-

I'd love to hear that story any time.

Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ and Cannabis

so basically if i were to become what you were id basically just be an every day christian which i am, with legal rights to walk around the street and blow a blunt? or if its illegal publicly, i could sit home or in my yard and legally smoke and if a cop saw me i could talk to him and smoke in front of him?

Koshea-

You can smoke legal but the laws mostly deal with it while your in or on your own private property. Smoking in front of a cop is pushing it unless he is at your locked screen door and you have all the paper work to show him. If you smoked in public then they could twist it around and say your in dangering others with the toxic cannabis smoke or some twist like that.

Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ and Cannabis

im 16 as of now...i mostly agree with your pholosophys....stick around and one day maybe we can have a talk

Hi mike
First off, I commend you on your quest, may you have God's blessing.
Now for my story:
As my name implys, I had open heart surgery in August 1998. The drs had alot of trouble starting my heart back up after they rebuilt it and put it back inside me. It was at that time I was clinically dead. Upon awaking, 3 days later, I vividly remember what I believe occured to me while i was dead. I have no tangible proof, only the memory of what happened. I was flying through the clouds and came up upon an island. On the island were people, my father, relatives and friends all of whom have passed away. My flight stopped short of this island and a beautiful woman floated out towards me. She spoke and I heard her but her lips never moved. She told me she was God and it wasn't my time yet. I wanted to stay . It was the most loving, beautiful feeling I ever had, I wanted to stay. We talked for a long while, she answered every question i posed to her. From " what is the meaning of life?" to "Why do people have to suffer?" , all with soothing comfort. When all my questions were answered she nodded her head and I awoke in ICU, remembering every bit of it , to this day. I never feared death, now i await it with open arms knowing what waits for us on the other side!! This was an eye opening experience for someone who wasn't positive of any after life. Who would of thought God is a beautiful woman? certainly not me LOL untill this
peace
heart
more to follow

Heart-

Your experiance sounds awesome. In the Bible it says that Jesus left this place to prepare a new home for each and every one of those who believe in him. That most likey was your place and your family and friends where helping in the building process. I can picture mine. It would be close to islands but on some remote beach with the forrest behind my house. Lots of green kush growing on my mountain side and the really good kind so my friends would stop by to pick a few buds for the party Jesus and the angels are throwing. I see myself and my wife sitting on the front porch of a small but interesting shack you know something humble. I already would have heaven around me so why must I live in some giant house that needs things to be full. My daughter would run up with a few buds and ask me to role them up for her and her new angel friends to puff on while they dance in the clouds to Bradley Knowle. Sure he might want to be at his place but damn it it's my dream my visoin and he'll play where I say he will play. Ok I wouldn't make him but it was a good thought. I am looking forward to the knew insights and knowledge we will posess when we get to heaven. As I have told my wife, when I die Jesus and I are going on a 1000 year camping trip. Your more then welcome to join us if you like. I figure why get all the answers at once why not make it fun by camping and talking everything out. see if I was right on somethings and see what wisdom bombs Jesus can drop on me while toking.

Thanks for sharing your experiance with me. I hope you liked my vision of heaven. Chat with you later. Peace.

Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ and Cannabis

good one heart. thanks fr sharing your story.

Mike Meek, I'm a Christian too that smokes, and I also know the Lords word:

1 Corinthians 10:23

The thing is if it's a stumbling block to a brother and a sister we should not be doing it around them. Cannabis takes wisdom with the Lord, as I'm sure you're learning, so depending on where you live in the world it has to be used with sensitivity towards others, so as to not make them stumble.

Mike can I ask you to pray about:

Matthew 10:8

And maybe if it is in your means you or someone you know can bless me with the Sanctuary Kit.

http://www.thc-ministry.org/kit2.htm

Truthfully as Jesus is my Lord I am a man of vey little means and $200 is way beyond these pockets and I truly need to be blessed from the Lord to recieve this. Take care and keep the faith, and HOLD these truths close to your heart:

Matthew 5:20
Matthew 7:21-23

sheesh I just typed a whole big thing and to find out I didn't log in so it ISN"T HERE
I am a confused woman
Where is my life going
what is the point
what was I put on earth to do
is this guy I'm dating the guy for me for the rest of my life (I think he is)
what major should I have now
am I making the right decisions
I know that nobody can answere these but sometimes I wish that God would just appear to me and tell me. I hope that I am on the right path... I think so...except I was always taught smoking was wrong too...hummm????

*thinking*

GooseBear read this in the bible:

1 Corinthians 14:33

Depending how your Bible is it will say typically either (confusion or disorder) in that verse. See the truth is God is not a God of disorder or confusion, and if you are confused then you are not on the right path, or if you are you're not sure about it either way as Christians say:

You need to DIG into the word until you know without a doubt!

Just keep seeking, God will not lead you astray:

Matthew 7: 7-12

The key is you NEED to ---> SEEK

And that means alot of pray, reading, and having fellowship with others that know the word, remember there are many who call themselves Christians and they are not, and wisdom is what we need from the Lord to know the difference.

James 1:5-8
Matthew 7:21-23

Thank you Das
I like the song that we sing and the lyrics are Mathew 7: 7-8!!! I just didn't know that was that but I have heard that before!

As I was reading 1 Corinthians though I was disturbed by the following verses
"As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak but must be in submission as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something they should ask their own husbands at home for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church"

I don't agree?? Or am I misinterpreting this verse?

Do you have other verses?? What are your favs? Let me look them up!!

Thank you :D

hey minister mik,
that sounds really interesting, maybe i should start reading the bible.
Is it possible to practice christianity by just reading the bible, and beliving in god... but not attending church?

And what's the age to become a THC minister, and can you be one in California?

Das-

Your correct in if cannabis is a stumbling block to others then is should not be done around them. That way they don't stumble by your actions. If they know you smoke and you don't discuss it with them and they still stumble because of you smoking it is there fault. I've had to deal with that one over my family many times. What I like to quote if it is a problem with them (and I've made sure I don't bring it around them) Gal. 6:4. About the kit. I can't even afford the kit that they offer. But there is a started kit that I did by for $30. I got everything in the large kit except for the annointing oil and a few of the papers liek the Constitution, state laws, etc. Which all you really neewd to do is print that out. About Mat. 10:8, that is a hard topic to discuss. I do believe that is possible but it requires a great amount of faith and in this day and age it is very hard to have that faith because it is being tested every day. About Mat. 5:20, I do agree that we should follow the laws. The cool thing aboout the Religion of Jesus Church is that smoking cannabis when apart of the religion it is legal. About Mat 7:20-23, another interesting topic. In my belief which I think goes along with the Bible Jesus wants us to do what he wants which is the have faith in him (believe he is who he said he is) and Love your neighbor (pretty much everyone) by doing those two things you are following what God the Father wants you to do.

Goosebear-

It's true what Das said. The best place in my opinion to find answers is in the Bible. For something that was written so many years it some how relates to todays living. In my opinion for it to do that it has to be God sent. I have been confused about many thing in my life. Growing up a very Southern Baptists child I was raised that Pot was wrong, drinking was wrong, etc. When I first started smoking I battled with that. I didn't feel like I was doing anything wrong but what I was told is that I was doing wrong. When I was tired of listening to what people had to say about how I should feel about things I started to do my own looking and seeking. What I found was awesome Col. 2:20-23 sum's up close to everything I found out about cannabis. It say that the idea of Don't taste, touch, handle, etc doesn't cause people not to sin or screw up it was them selfs that cause sin or to scew up. Or for better words people shouldn't blame their actions on smoking or drinking etc they need to take responsablilty for their actions. About the verse that you had problems with. In those times that was the custom. Not only for Bible believers it was that way for everyone. Times have changed. Don't let that hinder you. You know in your heart/conscience that it's not right just as everyone does and in my beliefs God is on the other line of your consciense telling you what's right and whats wrong. You asked Das what his favorite verse what I'm not Das but I'll give you mine it has to be:

1 Cor. 10:31
So whether you eat or drink whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God.

I like it so much because it relates to my Ministry. Most people are against pot, I use it to glorify God and as a witnessing tool. That one verse sums up my mission.

OzzyOz-

The Bible is full of interesting things. Much can be learned from it. If you haven't read much or any of it you should start in the book of Proverbs. That book rocks. It is possible to be a Christian and not go to church. Personaly I don't go to church much because for one I don't have a Church of my religion. If there was one I feel it would be hassled by the cops to much and I don't want to put my family in danger of the Laws. In paper it's all legal but Cops don't follow all the rules as everyone knows. Just look at medical Marijuana. They still bust houses and burn sick peoples crops. The thing about being a Christian is following Christ. Nothing more nothing less. You can worship God any where not just in some church that has to take up an offering to pay it's APS bill. The age to join the THC Ministry is 18 but to be apart of the Religion of Jesus Church no age is needed. Do a search on the Religion and you'll find out more info. About CA, no problem there. CA has the same state Constitution as AZ just research it and find the article about freedom of Religion print it out and you've stated your deffence paper work.

Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ

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Originally Posted by GooseBear

Thank you Das
I like the song that we sing and the lyrics are Mathew 7: 7-8!!! I just didn't know that was that but I have heard that before!

As I was reading 1 Corinthians though I was disturbed by the following verses
"As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak but must be in submission as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something they should ask their own husbands at home for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church"

I don't agree?? Or am I misinterpreting this verse?

Do you have other verses?? What are your favs? Let me look them up!!

Thank you :D

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Yes this is true, a woman was not suppose to teach in Church, God made man the head not the other way around, but today many woman do teach and speak in Churches, times have changed, but as God says he doesn't change.

Hebrews 13:8

But read this all it's good:

Hebrews 13

The thing is we need wisdom for some scripture that is hard for us to interpret. Let the Lords spirit teach and guide you as the word says. Dig and seek with a humble heart and if you are TRULY HUMBLE and seeking, then the Lord will show you and teach you, Jesus is not going to lead you astray.


John 16:1-15
John 14:15-15-31

Let the HOLY SPIRIT guide and teach you, this is OUR TEACHER : :o

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Originally Posted by OzzyOz

hey minister mik,
that sounds really interesting, maybe i should start reading the bible.
Is it possible to practice christianity by just reading the bible, and beliving in god... but not attending church?

And what's the age to become a THC minister, and can you be one in California?

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OzzyOz don't worry about what you should or shouldn't do, or what can a Christian do and what can a Chrisitian not do. God loves you just the way you are.

Read the Bible spend time in prayer, learn who the Lord Jesus is, and most important don't expect God to bow to you, and run on your time. It is us that needs to humble ourselves to God, not the other way around.

If you don't know Jesus as your saviour, then you need to get him into your life:

Romans 10:8-15
Hebrews 10:24-24 This is (Church & Fellowship)

See Gods words say in Hebrews 10 to have fellowship Church with others, this is for many things, one of which the Lord says to encourage us on into Love.

Church the world thinks is a building, Church is the PEOPLE. Christians are the church after all what good does a empty building do if no one is in it?

Matthew 18:20 (This is a understanding of Church)

And last for now, once saved God wants our light to shine to the lost, so going in hiding as a Christian is not Gods words, we need to reach out to the lost, and help guide them.

Matthew 5:13-16
John 3:16-21

God loved you so much in that while you are still a sinner Christ died the death of a sinner, the worst a man could die in those times as a criminal, death hung on a cross. The Passion of the Christ is what happened to Jesus he was beaten that bad for us, so just remember that when you're wanting to do only this and that, look what he endured for us, he Loves us, so don't worry just accept him as you are. God will mold and shapes us, those he loves.

God takes that old lump of clay, and dirt that we are, and shapes us into something beautiful. God does mold us just ask any Christian.

2Corinthians. 5:17

THC-ministry membership 21yrs. old and members all across the USA

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Originally Posted by Kid Dynamite

Yeah i dont understand that either. Maybe you say smoking throuigh christianity is morally legal, but that wont sytand up in court when you get charged with posession. Explain... :confused:

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:) Religious rights and freedoms are
granted by the Creator to all of us
and protected by law in every country on earth. :D


http://www.thc-ministry.org/index1.htm

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Originally Posted by Kid Dynamite
Yeah i dont understand that either. Maybe you say smoking throuigh christianity is morally legal, but that wont sytand up in court when you get charged with posession. Explain...


Amendment I - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


----> or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

That means in your religion if anything is held in belief as a part of your religion, that as for example believe God gave you, and this is a part of your religion, then the Bill of Rights protects your ---> "Freedom of Religion" to exercise that right, and therefore cannot be charged against it.

So believing that God gave you cannabis as part of your religion, and use it to exercise that right by this Bill gives you freedom and protection, therefore the law cannot touch you.

All I can say is ONE you better have real conviction in your faith and proof to show this, and know it's true to stand by it and believe it, and the Lord does show this for Christians:

Genesis 1:29

heartsurgerysurviver

Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993
Enrolled Bill (Sent to the President)

H.R.1308

One Hundred Third Congress of the United States of America AT THE FIRST SESSION Begun and held at the City of Washington on Tuesday, the fifth day of January, one thousand nine hundred and ninety-three An Act

TITLE: To protect the free exercise of religion.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the 'Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993'.

SEC. 2. CONGRESSIONAL FINDINGS AND DECLARATION OF PURPOSES.

(a) Findings: The Congress finds that--

(1) the framers of the Constitution, recognizing free exercise of religion as an unalienable right, secured its protection in the First Amendment to the Constitution;

(2) laws 'neutral' toward religion may burden religious exercise as surely as laws intended to interfere with religious exercise;

(3) governments should not substantially burden religious exercise without compelling justification;

(4) in Employment Division v. Smith, 494 U.S. 872 (1990) the Supreme Court virtually eliminated the requirement that the government justify burdens on religious exercise imposed by laws neutral toward religion; and

(5) the compelling interest test as set forth in prior Federal court rulings is a workable test for striking sensible balances between religious liberty and competing prior governmental interests.

(b) Purposes: The purposes of this Act are--

(1) to restore the compelling interest test as set forth in Sherbert v. Verner, 374 U.S. 398 (1963) and Wisconsin v. Yoder, 406 U.S. 205 (1972) and to guarantee its application in all cases where free exercise of religion is substantially burdened; and

(2) to provide a claim or defense to persons whose religious exercise is substantially burdened by government.

SEC. 3. FREE EXERCISE OF RELIGION PROTECTED.

(a) In General: Government shall not substantially burden a person's exercise of religion even if the burden results from a rule of general applicability, except as provided in subsection (b).

(b) Exception: Government may substantially burden a person's exercise of religion only if it demonstrates that application of the burden to the person--

(1) is in furtherance of a compelling governmental interest; and

(2) is the least restrictive means of furthering that compelling governmental interest.

(c) Judicial Relief: A person whose religious exercise has been burdened in violation of this section may assert that violation as a claim or defense in a judicial proceeding and obtain appropriate relief against a government. Standing to assert a claim or defense under this section shall be governed by the general rules of standing under article III of the Constitution.

SEC. 4. ATTORNEYS FEES.

(a) Judicial Proceedings: Section 722 of the Revised Statutes (42 U.S.C. 1988) is amended by inserting 'the Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993,' before 'or title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964'.

(b) Administrative Proceedings: Section 504(b)(1)(C) of title 5, United States Code, is amended--

(1) by striking 'and' at the end of clause (ii);

(2) by striking the semicolon at the end of clause (iii) and inserting ', and'; and

(3) by inserting '(iv) the Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993;' after clause (iii).

SEC. 5. DEFINITIONS.

As used in this Act --

(1) the term 'government' includes a branch, department, agency, instrumentality, and official (or other person acting under color of law) of the United States, a State, or a subdivision of a State;

(2) the term 'State' includes the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, and each territory and possession of the United States;

(3) the term 'demonstrates' means meets the burdens of going forward with the evidence and of persuasion; and

(4) the term 'exercise of religion' means the exercise of religion under the First Amendment to the Constitution.

SEC. 6. APPLICABILITY.

(a) In General.--This Act applies to all Federal and State law, and the implementation of that law, whether statutory or otherwise, and whether adopted before or after the enactment of this Act .

(b) Rule of Construction.--Federal statutory law adopted after the date of the enactment of this Act is subject to this Act unless such law explicitly excludes such application by reference to this Act .

(c) Religious Belief Unaffected.--Nothing in this Act shall be construed to authorize any government to burden any religious belief.

SEC. 7. ESTABLISHMENT CLAUSE UNAFFECTED.

Nothing in this Act shall be construed to affect, interpret, or in any way address that portion of the First Amendment prohibiting laws respecting the establishment of religion (referred to in this section as the 'Establishment Clause'). Granting government funding, benefits, or exemptions, to the extent permissible under the Establishment Clause, shall not constitute a violation of this Act . As used in this section, the term 'granting', used with respect to government funding, benefits, or exemptions, does not include the denial of government funding, benefits, or exemptions.

Speaker of the House of Representatives.Vice President of the United States and President of the Senate.

ohh
well i'm not 18, but i still might get into christianity. It sounds interesting, and maybe one day i can be a THC minister.

OzzyOz-

One day soon, I'm 26 and I've learnt that time flys the older you get. Enjoy your age cause what ever age you are it's better then being in the adult world where Bills come first. It sucks sometimes but it does have it's purks like not being carded for beer. Or in my case not being chased out the store because your under age and running with a few six packs. About the Christianity if you have any questions feel free to ask one of us here. We Christians get a bad wrap because of our fanatics but for the most part we are tolerant because that is what Jesus teaches us. A few great books to read out of the Bible are:

In my favorite order:

Proverbs
James
Colossians
Hebrews
Galatians

And if you don't have a Bible then just click here:

www.biblegateway.com

Best of Luck to you on your qwest for knowledge. God Bless.

Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ and Cannabis

:) I'm from Barcelona, Spain, and I smoke cannabis from....ups, I don't remember. The only thing I know is that it make me see the thrue of anything. Someone is controlling us, but I don't know who is he, or what is it... Do you think, that all the people who smoke cannabis are together, have something together??? It's like only the people who smokes, understand the people who smokes... Idon't know if you understand my "special english". Bye... (in Barcelona we say "adeu")

NubeLiLa-

I understand what your saying. People that smoke cannabis are united with a common ground unlike the rest of the world. We that smoke can almost hang around any other person that smokes because we have that bond or intrest in each other. We all share different stories of the smoke we've had and we all share stories of the people that we thought loved us not understand us. In most cases people that don't smoke just don't care for you after they find out you smoke. At least it's happened to me. People that have known me my whole life and liked me my whole life, when they find out that I smoke the idea that they have built around me, thinking they know mw comes crubbling down because I smoke. I've had friends stop talking to me just because I smoke. Cannabis gives me the clarity that I need to see people for what they are. I am tolerant of others because so many have not been tolerant of me. All the propaganda has caused families, friends, loved ones to disown us cannabis users. While gowing up I was taught that I should feel guilty for smoking. It took me any years to realize there is nothing to feel guilty about. Nothing changed about me when I smoked I am still making all the decisions. People think that when you smoke you see cartoons, want to rape and kill poeple, etc. All Bull. I try to explain it to them that first off it's a plant, second the idea of a drug dealer lacing cannabis is just bad bussiness cause it waste more money for the dealer and money is what they are after, third it does nothing that the US gov't says it does. Cannabis users are forever linked together because we will always have to explain cannabis, it's affects, and it's benifets. The best thing for a cannabis user to do is be an example of a good pot smoker and not the warning that people relate cannabis with. You know LAZY, GIGGLY, NOT BRIGHT, SLOW, ETC. God Bless.

Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ and Cannabis

Q: ) What kind of free will is it when we supposedly have 2 choices where one is deemed "good" and the other "bad"? Well thats fine until we are judged by the almighty whom we are to serve and worship.

-Be well-

Could it be that I have found someone who understands?

Excellent outline of marijuana and its use.

I have not much time to write now, but I would like to add to your post to help build upon it.

Jesus said that if we do not eat his flesh and drink His blood, we cannot enter into The Kingdom of Heaven.

His flesh and His blood would then be what?

The same as the requirements for the Passover of course. So much for the person that said marijuana was irrelevant.

Bitter Herbs (Canna), and lamb.

So which is His flesh and which is His blood?

The word vineyard comes up as Canna also.

So this must be the wine. The new wine.

So not only then would marijunana be good and right for us to use,
IT IS A REQUIREMENT for us and our sons as prescribed in the Bible.

An eternal requirement.

So when we eat bitter herbs, we are having Communion as Jesus did with His Disciples. Though He said He wouldn't eat it again until we eat it with Him in our Fathers Kingdom, we are to eat of it in rememberance of Him and the only we could go wrong in doing this is if we eat it in an improper manner.

This scripture describes The Passover best.

"Better to eat herbs where there is love, than to eat meat where there is hate."

Now to go even further, Paul The Apostle warns against those who judge us for doing what God prescribed to us to do by saying,
"Let not those who do not eat bitter herbs judge those who do, for God hath chosen them."

Those who are "Christians" that judge by the flesh do not know they are actually anti-christian because they oppose the Word of God.

For when God made the herbs he said they were for our use, of course, but he also said that they were VERY GOOD and only a fool would call evil what God has called good.


PEACE BE WITH YOU

Also the bis at the end of canna stands for twofold so as to say,
"The plant of plants, the herb of herbs, the meal of meals."

Also, look at its number as its trademark

I think the most important questions we need to ask are...
Why is it illegal and called evil if it heals the sick and gives sight to the blind.
Anti-Christ is the answer.
Fallen Angels were ordered to serve us but they wouldn't. So instead they try to get us to worship them instead of God by making laws contrary to His so that we will obey and serve God or we will obey and serve them, seeing we cannot do both.
In America you can have an abortion but you cannot have a green plant?
Anti-Christ.
And people want to come here?
As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.
We were set free from the law of sin and death so that we could have the freedom to obey God and His laws which are for our lives so that we may live.

"They only preach what they have been taught so we need to correct there mislead minds".

Substitute 'they' for 'Christians'...

it's very unfortunate that way too many people today base what The Messiah said and did by the actions of contemporary Christians; the selfrighteous lifestyle of most prevented me from reading the Bible for many years. But The Christ was way cool! He didn't go to church and he didn't hang out with Christians (as a matter of fact one of the few times he did go to church he got pissed off and overturned some tables). The Christ hung out WITH WHORES, drinking wine! But he was The Messiah, meaning he had something very important to say (and Judaism and Islam both recognize Christ Jesus was alive and was a Prophet). And what The Messiah said- Know that something much more powerful than you exists (God) and love that awesome mighty power with everything you got. Then love each other and forgive each other. Forgive everyone for everything at all times. Always. Forgive and love. It's such a simple answer to everything. The Messiah said to forgive and love, and I for one think that is cool so I try to love more everyday.

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it's very unfortunate that way too many people today base what The Messiah said and did by the actions of contemporary Christians; the selfrighteous lifestyle of most prevented me from reading the Bible for many years. But The Christ was way cool! He didn't go to church and he didn't hang out with Christians (as a matter of fact one of the few times he did go to church he got pissed off and overturned some tables). The Christ hung out WITH WHORES, drinking wine! But he was The Messiah, meaning he had something very important to say (and Judaism and Islam both recognize Christ Jesus was alive and was a Prophet). And what The Messiah said- Know that something much more powerful than you exists (God) and love that awesome mighty power with everything you got. Then love each other and forgive each other. Forgive everyone for everything at all times. Always. Forgive and love. It's such a simple answer to everything. The Messiah said to forgive and love, and I for one think that is cool so I try to love more everyday.

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Nicely put Ken:)
And for all the non believers, Forgivness and Love are still nice ways to get through the days.
How well did you love? Is what I believe God will ask of me when it's my time, surely at the end of the day it's what it all boils down to.

I'll SCREAM!!!! an AMEN to both those posts.

Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ

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Originally Posted by KennabisCranium

And what The Messiah said- Know that something much more powerful than you exists (God)

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Why not try and make your own mind up instead of doing what the Bible says?

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Originally Posted by mr chinnery

Why not try and make your own mind up instead of doing what the Bible says?

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Mr. Chinnery-

Why is it that if someone has made up thier own mind and chooses to follow what the Bible and Jesus say's it's not making up thier own mind. Are you so intolerant that if it isn't your way then the person is a mindless clone that just follows what others say. Come on, your way isn't for everyone just as our way isn't for everyone. Realize just because others have a different view on life doesn't mean they are mindless and can't make up thier own mind. It's because they made thier own mind up about that topic and have chosen to follow it. Just as you have made your mind up about not believing in God. It seems as if you are purposly attacking Christians. Why is that. Do we Christians on this board go threads of others belief and slander them. No, so we ask for the same respect. Of course I haven't seen any respect from you yet so I won't hold my breath. Ok I will hold my breath but only after I rip this bong......................... Ok now I'm going to stop holding it, my face is turning purp.......

I'm back from that black out. I guess I held my breath to long. Back to the topic. Show some respect because we respect your view. Thanks.

Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ

alot of people dont make up their mind about religion. alot of people are born into a religion, and never question it - that, my friend, is a mindless clone

The point is that you and mr chinnery are not talking to people like that. If you haven't noticed this is a Cannabis web site and there are only two religions I know of that use cannabis so if the Christian is here it's safe to say they think for them selves. But it is a true statement:

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Originally Posted by ghostoker

alot of people are born into a religion, and never question it

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Of course the same can be said of the opposite side

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Originally Posted by meek mike

alot of people are born with out religion, and never question it.

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Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ

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Originally Posted by meek mike

if the Christian is here it's safe to say they think for them selves.

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Good point :)