How do you think America will end?

Increasing economic turmoil as the rich get richer, the poor get poorer, and the middle class disappears. Then, as oil supplies get really low and prices on everything (and I mean everything, oil isn't just for making gas for your car) go up, and the already poor majority of the American populace will hopefully realise their predicament, and rise up against the government, overthrow it, and replace it with one that either goes back to actually following the constitution, or one that is a total overhaul.

Either that, or we end up destroying ourselves and everybody else in a nuclear war with China and/or N. Korea.

"Increasing economic turmoil as the rich get richer, the poor get poorer, and the middle class disappears."

Eureka! You nailed it right there. America has always been strong because of a strong middle class. First time in history and now that's going by-by.

**The SuperVolcano kinda freaked me out too but then again, if we're going in that direction, a nearby star could Supernova. Oh shit! I forgot about that! Dammit! you guys are creeping me out! I'm going to go feed me goldfish.

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Originally Posted by Ozarks

America will never end, especially with open borders. In fact we will need to expand and start taking over countries just so we have some place to put them all.

Lets start with Mexico.:D

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YYYYYYOOOOOOOWWW! :D I had to give the 'ol REBEL YELL to that one dude!:thumbsup: We drove'em back 't Mexico City AND THEN SOME! We did it in 1846 or so,we can do it AGAIN! I LIKE YER ATTITUDE DUDE! I'll burn to that! :rasta: :D

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Originally Posted by sanguinekane

Increasing economic turmoil as the rich get richer, the poor get poorer, and the middle class disappears. Then, as oil supplies get really low and prices on everything (and I mean everything, oil isn't just for making gas for your car) go up, and the already poor majority of the American populace will hopefully realise their predicament, and rise up against the government, overthrow it, and replace it with one that either goes back to actually following the constitution, or one that is a total overhaul.

Either that, or we end up destroying ourselves and everybody else in a nuclear war with China and/or N. Korea.

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Originally Posted by anycraic

aaaargh weedfaerie, its not a bash america thread, its a how will it end thread. and shut up about democracy, cause you dont have much compared to a lot of countries. if u actually study politics u would know how undemocratic ur entire governmental system is. obviously the poor countries are far less democratic, but compared to the rest of the western world, u dont have much at all. this is a fact no matter how much you dispute it.

in regards to a lot of american posters on these boards, why do they always call everyone 'jealous haters'?. im not trying to be funny, but jealous of what exactly?
u dont see anyone else from any other country on these boards calling people "jealous" of this and that, so wtf

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Shut up about democracy? Where are you from by the way? (i'd love to have the opportunity to drudge up some nasty and bloody history about your country) And I know how my government works, and I know it's at least better than a dictatorship or monarchy. And we (americans) don't have much at all? Really? I think our whole fucking country would beg to differ. This shows you ARE A JEALOUS HATER, to answer your question. I can't speak for everyone else who calls people jealous, I'm not the spokesperson. The reason people from other (non USA) countrys probably don't call non citizens jealous haters is becaue they aren't the world power and aren't being bashed all the fucking time. Is there a thread about the destruction of England or of North Korea? I don't think so. I'm allowed to have pride in my country, just as I'm sure you have in yours... although I did specifically indicate that I am NOT a BUSH supporter and am crushed by our foreign issues, war in iraq, our environmental issues, etc. You want more from me? Private message me then we'll work something out, mmk?

America is already lost......Welcome to the North American Union.......look it up

Actually that was a joke, Apparently you don't have much of a sense of humor ...

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Originally Posted by Mark Bryan

YYYYYYOOOOOOOWWW! :D I had to give the 'ol REBEL YELL to that one dude!:thumbsup: We drove'em back 't Mexico City AND THEN SOME! We did it in 1846 or so,we can do it AGAIN! I LIKE YER ATTITUDE DUDE! I'll burn to that! :rasta: :D

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... except for your own, there's a word for people like that. :D

A nation of sheep will be wearing wool in the winter while the government wolves shiver!

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Originally Posted by Storm Crow

Let me give you kind of a time table as to when the revolution will start. WAY back when I was in high school, (I'm 59) I had a Government teacher, Mr. Fierro. He also collected coins. He noted an interesting thing. After debasing (cutting with cheap metal) their smallest coin, he could find NO government that lasted 50 years- most fell within 25 years. The US debased the penny in 1982.

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Revolution. LAWLLRSKATES! The law will break it up as soon as one begins to organize. We're all under surveillance now. Revolutionaries will be considered terrorists and treated as such. Not gonna happen.

And hamlet, I know I didn't get censored, and I stated that after the post saying that I did. Maybe if you kept reading you woulda saw, but hey, it's okay man. You have a great day too bud :thumbsup:

"And hamlet, I know I didn't get censored, and I stated that after the post saying that I did. Maybe if you kept reading you woulda saw, but hey, it's okay man. You have a great day too bud "

I think you mean Psycho4Bud.

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Revolution. LAWLLRSKATES! The law will break it up as soon as one begins to organize. We're all under surveillance now. Revolutionaries will be considered terrorists and treated as such. Not gonna happen.

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Intially, yes that will be what happens, but thats what happens in almost every revolution. But where there is a will, there is a way. The original American revolutionaries were backwoods farmers and everyday citizens who had more courage than weapons, and they eventually defeated the greatest empire of the time (though they obviously had a little help). Revolutions are never easy, but if the people want one bad enough, they always come around.

Actually, we don't need a 'revolution' in the classical sense of the word. Our system is set up so that power can change hands without one. Great way to do business, huh?

All we have to do is think alike and get off our lazy asses and VOTE! But that's a fuckin' bitch, isn't it? Must be cuz only baptists and grandparents seem to do it.

So here's what we do. Instead of taking off for some dead presidents birthday, or the Easter Bunny, whatever....make Election Days national holidays...<if you vote! Everybody and his brother will be at the polls , guaranteed. Laws and politicians would change...guaranteed. Of course we might end up with Britney Spears as President, but that remains to be seen, and at this point I'll take her!...lol

True, we don't need a revolution...yet. But I made a prediction for one in the future, based upon the theory that the slow erosion of our rights happening now continues on into the future. If Bush gets replaced with someone competent in 2009, and this country starts to turn around, then yeah, no revolution needed, and I hope this is what actually happens.

If not however, who knows how long until only certain people are allowed to vote, if anyone at all?

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Originally Posted by Hamlet

Actually, we don't need a 'revolution' in the classical sense of the word. Our system is set up so that power can change hands without one. Great way to do business, huh?

All we have to do is think alike and get off our lazy asses and VOTE! But that's a fuckin' bitch, isn't it? Must be cuz only baptists and grandparents seem to do it.

So here's what we do. Instead of taking off for some dead presidents birthday, or the Easter Bunny, whatever....make Election Days national holidays...<if you vote! Everybody and his brother will be at the polls , guaranteed. Laws and politicians would change...guaranteed. Of course we might end up with Britney Spears as President, but that remains to be seen, and at this point I'll take her!...lol

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Election day(s) should be a national holiday. They do it in other countries, and more people vote. It isn't really "lazyness": We have longer working hours and less time off than these countries. Many Americans are just too overworked to make it to the polls after a hard day at the job. It's very difficult, if not outright impossible, for many people to do it.

Election day is very important, but the average working person is denied a fair chance to participate.

They force you to do jury duty, but you're not able to vote. Nice.

"They force you to do jury duty, but you're not able to vote. Nice."

I've noticed that myself...:) Something tells me career politicians don't want us all to vote. It would mess up their gerimandering. But fuck'm, let's do it anyway...whaddaya say?! whataday say?!

We aint going nowhere. lol. America's # 1

Egypt was #1, Rome was #1, China was #1, Britain was #1, France was #1, Russia was tied for #1, and on and on.

I doubt America will ever just disappear from the map, but to think we will remain on top forever is literally a pipe dream.

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Originally Posted by Ozarks

Actually that was a joke, Apparently you don't have much of a sense of humor ...





... except for your own, there's a word for people like that. :D

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Actually,I KNEW it was a joke! I was agreein' with it as funny as it was! As for not havin' a sense 'o humor, Why are SOME women called VACUUM CLEANERS? Because they SUCK,they BLOW,and like to get LAID in the CLOSET!:D :dance: Wanna crack some jokes?

If voting actually changed anything, it would have been made illegal decades ago.

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Originally Posted by SmokingPlatypus

If voting actually changed anything, it would have been made illegal decades ago.

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It was anarchist Emma Goldman who came up with that quote.

“If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal.”

And she was absolutely right. Voting new leaders into the system and expecting them to correct the evils inherent in the system is absolutely absurd. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that politicians do what is in their best interest, generally not giving a crap about what people think after the election bit is all over. And what is in their best interest is staying in power, staying rich and in general keeping the status quo. They will only make enough concessions to keep the masses from ousting them out of power. Therefore, if we want to really get anything done, we need to threaten politicians with loss of their power and, in my opinion, we should follow through on that threat.

Well since I'm moving to Canada I can safely say that America will end with a bloody nuclear missle from al Qaeda that will hit the south side of America and spread it's chemical debris to the north side until it wipes out everyone :D

(time to flame me :p).

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Originally Posted by Mark Bryan

Actually,I KNEW it was a joke! I was agreein' with it as funny as it was! As for not havin' a sense 'o humor, Why are SOME women called VACUUM CLEANERS? Because they SUCK,they BLOW,and like to get LAID in the CLOSET!:D :dance: Wanna crack some jokes?

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If I missed the humor in your last post, that is my fault. Sometimes it's hard read people correctly on the Internet. :)



I will never hear church bells ringing again without smiling. Upon hearing that her elderly grandfather had just passed away, Katie went straight to her grandparent's house to visit her 95 year old grandmother and comfort her.
When she asked how her grandfather had died, her grandmother replied, "He had a heart attack while we were making love on Sunday morning."
Horrified, Katie told her grandmother that two people nearly 100 years old having sex would surely be asking for trouble.

"Oh no, my dear," replied granny. "Many years ago, realizing our advanced age, we figured out that the best time to do it was when the church bells would start to ring. It was just the right rhythm. Nice and slow and even.
Nothing too strenuous, simply in on the Ding and out on the Dong."

She paused to wipe away a tear, and continued, "He'd still be alive if the ice cream truck hadn't come along !!!

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Originally Posted by Oneironaut

It was anarchist Emma Goldman who came up with that quote.

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That's right, I couldn't remember who had said it. It was a brilliant quote.

Therefore, if we want to really get anything done, we need to threaten politicians with loss of their power and, in my opinion, we should follow through on that threat.

Sounds good....got a better way of doing that besides voting them out of office?

"People with power tend to listen more to people's plights when those people are forcing them to deep throat the barrel of an M-16..."

Noted...that's why people in power are the ones in control of the M-16s. We've played that game since the dawn of civilization. Fortunately, two hundred years ago some wise old hippies decided those weren't very cool rules.

So they broke all the power up, put the people in charge of the M-16s on a leash, and gave some of that power back to you. Bitch all ya want about the government but you gotta admit...... that rocks.

The catch is there's always going to be some sleezeball schemeing to take that power away from you. If he catches enough of us nappin', or with our heads stuck up our asses, or in our X-boxes, he might just pull it off.

What we got ain't perfect. But it works if you work it. It's up to you and me to go make it perfect. As for me, I'm all about gettin' off my ass and giving it a go.

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Originally Posted by NextLineIsMine

When and ,most of all how do you think the empire of America will fall? Like a massive depression or something...

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I don't think America's reign on power will end like in a depression. Simply other countries will become more economic powerhouses in America.

In a way, it would be a good thing. Rather than spending 25% of the budget on the military, it can go to more useful agendas, such as education, improving infrastructure, and making America a more "happy country."

Why does America have to be #1? Couldn't we settle for #1 in the HDI index?

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Originally Posted by Green Love

We aint going nowhere. lol. America's # 1

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Why do there have to be so many morons like this guy that it overwhelmes the knowledgable people... :(

I believe that if will fall down. Their will be a time in the future were people get tired of all the lies and mafia government. A revolution will begin but not in the near future.

If what the government tells us is true, and it most certaintly is, America will crumble when marijuana is legalized. Hospitals will overflow! Everybody will become addicted to drugs! Violence and crime will run rampant! 90% of the population will get cancer! 80% will be schizophrenic! Terrorists will overrun us!



Marijuana, still think it's harmless?

America's demise will be nobodies fault it's own.

At the rate we're going now very very badly. The justice system has gone to hell and the innocent are being punished not the criminals.

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Originally Posted by Mark Bryan

We will fall due to the enemy within and without,but after a brief period of captivity,once Armageddon is fought when Christ returns and the believers recieve their NEW bodies like his,then we will TAKE BACK America/Manasseh and the newly revived Hemp For Victory will help us REBUILD on the ashes of the ruined cities and we will live 1,000 years in peace before Satan is loosed and makes his LAST STAND! Then ETERNITY will begin after the world is purified by fire and is TRANSFIGURED into an eternal paradise!:rasta: :pimp: :D PEACE!

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And then you woke up!

complete economic disaster caused by the north american union

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Originally Posted by MrNiceGuy420

complete economic disaster caused by the north american union

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You mean like the European union caused total economic disaster for Europe?

I think that America will fall like Rome. The truth is, that just like other fallen empires, America has already fallen long before it actually erupts into a revolution or reformation of government. The power will go to the east. I guess America will retain power over smaller amounts of oil. This nation will no longer be able to survive as a post-industrial nation, it will quickly fall back into a agricultural nation, and when people see how much better it is, it will probably stay that way for a long time.

Needless to say, this country will become a slave to the rest of the world, and the U.n. will dramatically change or evaporate into smaller national co-forces. Many countries will in a short time develop nuclear arms, and the world will continue to hold each other at gunpoint. China will lead the race with Indonesia producing biofuel and Japan and India following behind. I suspect that China may also absorb other countries in it's close proximity.

South America may also erupt as an unsuspected superpower in the near future, and canada and Usa may become one nation.

Communism will have an effect on everyone, but not as it used to be. The American standard of living will dramatically change, and culture will follow suit. There will be no worldwide government.

I think it's also very likely that part of the final catastophe will result from a multi nuclear attack from within or some other weapon of mass destruction.

Basically things will just get worse and worse, and everyone will be full of hate and darkness.

MAN BEAR PIG. classic. most empires crumble due to civil unrest and over expantion, the british empire, rome to name but a few. i dont see america being any different. not to mention that most of you are armed with personal arms a civil war is likely. you guys should take the power back and enforce your constitution as it was meant to be, not manipulated by monkies in suits.

America isn't going anywhere...

the world is still young in my opinion specially america

How will the USA end, or America as a whole? Well, the USA will end when/if the North American Union is created. This isn't too far away. This will also get rid of our constitution, and it is strongly believed that it will become a police state/authoritarian government. Not good. The end of the USA is near! The end of the NAU will be a revolution, eventually. But I guess it could be argued that the USA is already dead, and has been since 1913. It's not the USA that everyone loved before 1913, that's for sure. It's already slowly becoming a police state, and it's not too hard to tell, unless you're an idiot. Everyone on these forums should know this, with the knowledge of how cannabis was criminalized, and the users. The War on Drugs is just one characteristic of an authoritarian belief in laws and policies.

The original USA is gone, and the new, worse one will be gone soon when the NAU (North American Union) is formed. Then I would not doubt if after the NAU is created, many other "unions" will be created, and eventually be linked, and we will have the NWO. Say good-bye to even more of your human liberties, my friends! Unless you want to do something about it...

We outnumber the ruling elite and the federal government by a multiple-million fold. What makes you think we can't do something about it if we can bring a majority of the people to their senses? First comes knowledge, then a revolutionary foundation, and then revolution to overthrow the government. I personally think the people responsible for this whole mess should be executed; after all, they're responsible for millions of deaths. We can't let people control us like this, let alone given the chance to gain their power back and cause corruption even after a successful revolution.

Expect to see some major changes in our country, and eventually major changes in how people think about our government and the ruling elite! Expect changes... some good, some bad, some very bad.

They play us like we're in a game, and like the system is a game, and like life is a toy to be exploited.

Egypt, Greece, Mongolia, Turkey... All these countries were once great empires, and they still live.

The Empire of the United Sates of America will fall. The republic is crumbling right now. I think we will have a US for many more centuries, but, it will not be the same.

The main problem is the breakdown of the family, and rampant apathy.

The New World Order, the Council on Foreign Relations want to destroy American sovereignty. The SPP/NAU will erase our borders. Orwell's Big Brother is right here and now. The Federal Reserve has destroyed our currency. The IRS is illegally taxing us. There is no law that states you have to pay a federal income tax. Yet, the government takes it automatically out of our paychecks. There is mercury in our vaccines and fillings, and flouride in the water. The war in Iraq is a sham. 9/11 was an inside job.

But, so many of us that are aware, and doing the best we can to save America, are caught up in the daily hustle of trying to pay the rent, student loans, or fighting our personal demons of the past because our childhoods were living hell, and we will spend our whole lives recovering from them.

Yet, I hope. I see more and more tolerance as each generation grows. I see less racism, sexism, and blind acceptance of the government's lies in each generation. The internet is an amazing way we can technologically tap into the global subconciousness of the human race. This is the digital Dreamtime. I see hope in alternative media, namely the internet, and the radio. TV is mostly lies, and they only mix in truth to confuse you.

Am I voting for Ron Paul? You bet your stash I am!