MY stoner days are bout over. i FINALLY saw a doctor. read

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Originally Posted by souldistortion

Yeah, alcohol is bad news, especially for us 18 year old kids. well ANY kid for that matter. and alcohol and meds for sure don't mix but i dont think dope and meds would be likley to have too many consequences. Remember, its a holy herb given to us by god, alcohol is a chemically engineered substance that helps intensify the possibility of , rape, abuse, and car accidnets all over america. just go by the old age phrase "god made weed, man made alcohol, who do you trust?"
you admitted to your doctor you smoke dope? haha

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thats right, but recently id rarther get drunk than smoke marijuana simply because alcohol made me happy and sociable yet marijuana made me depressed, anti social and i found it hard to talk and walk while on marijuana and thats only to name a few.
and no i didnt admit to the doctor i smoke marijuana, he asked me to do a blood test AND a urine test, i only did the blood test, but i was stoned when i did it anyway so i guess he found out in the end...

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Originally Posted by 420somewhere

Im glad you got it sorted out....but the dope didn't make it worse....YOU made it worse by choosing to smoke dope when you knew you had these problems.
Be safe

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yes i releise that, but you dont releise my situation, most my freinds are stoners, my dealer goes to the same school as me, i always get people askin to get deals for them so i end up getting stoned with them when i get it. and its just to hard to say no when theres a nicley packed bong waiting for ya. and the feeling of always wanting more never went away. i just had to do something about it.

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Originally Posted by crudemood

That is incredible good news friend. :)
This should be an inspiration to us all, that there is hope in the end.
Things are finally getting better for you, kudos friend. Enjoy your new and happy life.
PS. Notice he didn't need to saved by a certain Lord and Saviour to find happiness? Sorry, I had to add that in. hehe.

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i hope i have inspired others to see a doctor.
thank you for your support
and the lord...AHAHAHA fuck god, he has never done anything for me. and i doubt he really gives a fuck.

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Originally Posted by greenmonster

ive heard that crack or heroin is a good drug to get into if ur felling abit low.

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yes it is untill the high wares off, then u want more and more and before you know it you have no life at all. great advice mate...

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Originally Posted by wordddddd

sorry to have to do this guys, but im with stoned.as.fuck in that bud fucking rules, but it can seirously fuck up your life if you have pre-existing medical conditions. lets not be ignorant and start be smart. yeah its a wonderful herb, yeah it grows in the ground, but tell me you didnt think that you could upset the natural balance of chemicals in your brain for years with out ANY sideeffects? weed is better than alcohol, but that doesnt mean weed is the all holy miracle drug with no possible side effects, lets not be stupid. youre changing the natural chemical BALANCES and interactions in your brain....pre-existing serious mental conditions can come up and even be magnified by this drug. i love the nug but, guys be smart.

stoned.as.fuck. you've made the right choice and maybe smoking weed isnt for you, im sorry, but you did the right thing. your sanity is worth more than getting high. way to be smart dude....im right there with you...i had all those feelings starting up, but they went away went i stopped smoking weed. good luck man!

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i totally agree, weed used to do it for me, it made me happy and mellow, but that was in the early days when i first started, i should of releised my symptoms were getting worse but i just kept on smokin becuase i thought the way i was feeling was normal.
i might just have a few cones one a week or something because i do agree its a great antidepressant...but i beleive the downsides just arent worth it for me

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Originally Posted by P.E.N.G.U.I.N.

How about you go see a therapist instead? I mean, you could be taking those antidepressants all your life. You could instead see a therapist, maybe see if it's something besides a chemical imbalance.

Oh, another thing. Marijuana is one of the best antidepressants out there. My advice is to stop smoking heavily and just smoke once a day. Maybe even start cooking it so you can stay mildly buzzed for awhile, but not fucked, know what I mean?

Either way, those man-made pills are NOT the best way to go. I don't trust them, I've seen people who think their life will stop if they don't take those and they become complete addicts.

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mabey so, and thats what my doctor said, i might have to take them for the long term, and i should see a therapist but i denied it. i have to go see him everyweek for a cheak up but if my meds are not working properly then i'll know i'll need to see someone else.

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Originally Posted by notech

Good to hear that your getting things sorted out. . . .

But NO meds work in just a few days time. . . .

It's because you Expect them to work that

it's changing your perspective on things. . . .

And as was already said,,, hope it was a psyc ya seen and not just

a normal Doctor... 'Cos doctors will throw anything at

ya just 'cos there little refferal book tells them it's ok to. . . .

Hope all works out ok for ya. . . .

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my doctor said the KARMA tablets work pretty much over night, and i swear i have been feeling calmer. but the anti-depressants will take a few weeks to kick in i know that.
yea i saw a normal doctor but hes a very good doctor beleive me hes been my doctor all my life and im sure he knows whats best, plus that booklet i showed him about anxiety disorders and depression made it alot easyer for him to prescribe me i think as i underlined the parts i was effected with.




thanks everyone for ya support, im so glad i joined this forum your a great bunch of people. :thumbsup:

respect

How do you know that marijuana caused your condition to worsen? Could it have been time as it went on, unchecked, allowed your depression to really grab hold of you? What about your heavy drinking, could it have been that? Way to instantly demonize marijuana. However, at the same time, I am not also saying that smoking weed didn't make it worse either. Just something to think about.

i dont care what your doctor says, i dont think the herb had anything to do with it, if anything it made it better, things like alcohol or any other drugs you might have done are better suspects...

also, just because it increased during your smoking years doesnt mean it was herb, most people with mental disorders who dont do anything about them only feel them mildy growing up and dont have serious problems untill they are in theyre adult years

Well, I would assume that, like with all drugs, pot would effect different people differently.

But I do agree with Jake about finding alternatives to dealing with your disorder. My best friend was depressed seven years ago and she started taking anti-depressants and she has really changed....as a person. She also has to up the dose about three times a year (depending on the stress level) and she is totally dependant on it.

Maybe it is the right thing for you to take medication but I would seriously consider seeing a psychologist/psychiatrist.

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Originally Posted by Pipe Dreams

Its cool that you got your life back in order, but stop calling marijuana "Dope".

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yeah i dont like that shit either

When I think "Dope" I also think "Smack". Something softer would be better IMO. But hey, terms are different depending on where you are.

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Originally Posted by souldistortion

hey man, i dont find THAT remotley funny. i got good bros who are "fuckingskagheads" as you so elequently put it.

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word.
nothing wrong with smoking lots of weed.
i know you are just jealous of me because i can smoke as much as i want everyday

Those pills you're on are going to be a million times worse for you in the long run. Stop drinking so much alcohol, smoke the blessed herb in moderation, and don't be a dipshit. Both sides of my family have a history of depression, my brother mother and two sisters have been on and off different medications, none of them work. Don't blame it on the weed that's the pussy way out!

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Originally Posted by synaesthesia

Good for you on being proactive with your life!

I just hope the doctor was a psychiatrist and not a General Practitioner as they have NO clinical training in diagnosing or treating mental disorders. Though, as you said you had to show him a pamphlet, I would think he wasn't a psychiatrist. If anything, PLEASE see a psychologist as drugs alone will NOT fix the problem! And better yet, see both a psychologist AND a psychiatrist before you start your Zoloft regimine. Those are some VERY serious drugs and will fuck you six ways to Sunday if you're not careful.

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I'll have the agree with the comment regarding general practitioner. When I was younger I had extreme social anxiety to the point at which I wouldn't even talk around people I wasn't comfortable around. My mother mentioned this to my doctor and without any hesitation his recommendation was Paxil. I was about 13 at the time.
My brother had the same doctor as i and ran into a similar situation. His situation however had to do with talking to much in class. His teachers suggested to my mother that he had ADD. Being a worried parent, my mother brought him to the doctor and his suggestion was Adderall.
I no longer take the medication nor does my brother take his. Because of the medication i still ave trouble remmebering many things during that period i my life.

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Originally Posted by mojoke

word.
nothing wrong with smoking lots of weed.
i know you are just jealous of me because i can smoke as much as i want everyday

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uhhh.. word :confused: lol wtf are you talking about

i agree with the ppl saying that just dont smoke it all the time just once a day... but id even say less maybe every other day or 2 times a week...


but again its u that nos wats going to make u feel better so it up to u :)

but also i am very happy to hear that u are getting out of ur depression

just like to say well done to the dude who started this thread. I'm very pleased for you but if there's any possibility that you can see yourself in the future being ok without the meds then you should try and see how you are without them. Would be awesome if u got ur life back to normal and was able to not have to take meds everyday to. I would also like to say to all those people who are saying that you doubt it's the bud that has made this guy feel the way he was, partially it is, obviously it's up to him if he wants to smoke or not but don't quote people by saying 'god made weed man made alcohol, who do you trust?'. Thats bull. I smoke weed a lot and i also like to drink to. I went through a stage of mainly just smoking and i was smoking a lot because i had it available to me and it does fuck you up. Cannabis effects people in different ways but it does have a negative effect on the majority of people if you smoke enough of it. I was smoking approximately 400 grams in a month and i started to not go out much, started losing touch with a lot of my friends, started getting paranoid, started thinking things. This was because i'd sit around smoking dope and i'd have myself to converse with so it's gonna make you a little mentally unstable. You don't think that schizophrenics wake up one day schizo do you? Weed in the end is a drug, maybe it was put on this earth for us to smoke, but smoking anything will eventually kill you so smoking a lot of herb will to. Weed is the same as alcohol and any other form of enjoyment such as chocolate. It's not neccessarily bad for you, but it is if you consume enough. Word of warning to those who believe that weed is the greatest thing on earth, sit down smoke 400grams a month for 1 whole year, you'll realise bud isnt the greatest thing on this earth. Just be content with smoking whatever ur smoking, and if you feel it might be changing the way u think or feel, then theres a high chance it is, and do summing about it like this kid did. Cheers for reading and i hope that some of you will take my advice and not just think im preaching to you all, cos ive been there done that so im sharing my experience.

Cheers all

Bob

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just like to say well done to the dude who started this thread. I'm very pleased for you but if there's any possibility that you can see yourself in the future being ok without the meds then you should try and see how you are without them. Would be awesome if u got ur life back to normal and was able to not have to take meds everyday to. I would also like to say to all those people who are saying that you doubt it's the bud that has made this guy feel the way he was, partially it is, obviously it's up to him if he wants to smoke or not but don't quote people by saying 'god made weed man made alcohol, who do you trust?'. Thats bull. I smoke weed a lot and i also like to drink to. I went through a stage of mainly just smoking and i was smoking a lot because i had it available to me and it does fuck you up. Cannabis effects people in different ways but it does have a negative effect on the majority of people if you smoke enough of it. I was smoking approximately 400 grams in a month and i started to not go out much, started losing touch with a lot of my friends, started getting paranoid, started thinking things. This was because i'd sit around smoking dope and i'd have myself to converse with so it's gonna make you a little mentally unstable. You don't think that schizophrenics wake up one day schizo do you? Weed in the end is a drug, maybe it was put on this earth for us to smoke, but smoking anything will eventually kill you so smoking a lot of herb will to. Weed is the same as alcohol and any other form of enjoyment such as chocolate. It's not neccessarily bad for you, but it is if you consume enough. Word of warning to those who believe that weed is the greatest thing on earth, sit down smoke 400grams a month for 1 whole year, you'll realise bud isnt the greatest thing on this earth. Just be content with smoking whatever ur smoking, and if you feel it might be changing the way u think or feel, then theres a high chance it is, and do summing about it like this kid did. Cheers for reading and i hope that some of you will take my advice and not just think im preaching to you all, cos ive been there done that so im sharing my experience.

Cheers all

Bob

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very good advice, everyone read that.

dude thats really good news man! I am happy for you :thumbsup: . "Always surround yourself with beautfiul things. Because that will keep your mind healthy."~my mommy

think its an aniexty disorder?



Social anxiety is the third largest psychological problem in the United States today. This type of anxiety affects 15 million Americans in any given year. Unlike some other psychological problems, social anxiety is not well understood by the general public or by medical and mental health care professionals, such as doctors, psychiatrists, psychologists, therapists, social workers, and counselors. In fact, people with social anxiety are misdiagnosed almost 90% of the time. People with social phobia come to our anxiety clinic labeled as "schizophrenic", "manic-depressive", "clinically depressed", "panic disordered", and "personality disordered", among other damaging misdiagnoses.

http://www.socialphobia.org/whatis.html

Aniexty attacks happens when u have underlying aniexty. its probably more likely that your only freaking on dope cause of some underlying problem not cause of the herbs. just my :twocents:

good for u bro

Just remember that if Zoloft doesn't work there are other drugs to try. It took me awhile to find the right depression meds.

Euphoric, the two kinds of pills i take a day, one being KARMA 0.25mg (same as xanax) and another XDEP 50mg. (same as zoloft diff brand) the karma is mainly to calm me down and lower my blood pressure, which would lower the chance of anxiety or a panic attack im guessing.

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Xydep is used to treat depression and conditions called obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD), panic disorder, social phobia (social anxiety disorder) and premenstrual dysphoric disorder (PMDD)

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bobbyhardcore your 100% correct in my book, but i would of disagreed with you if you told me that last year...when i was smoking and drink heavily very often without a problem.

it's great that zoloft helped you .... it does little or nothing for most people
... like prozac, paxil etc. .... shrinks don't like to tell you but they're
just shooting in the dark .... there is NO PILL with great result with
depression .... prozac is the BEST with like 40% with a partial response.
statistics ... some are completely cured!!!! like 15. It's like cancer
no progress in 30 years.
Rob .. the optimist

what will happen if i took a little more than the doctor said
what if i take say 5 karma tables or more ("suppose" to take 2 a day) and had 5 xdep tablets ("suppose" to take 1 day)

will it just do more damage than good, will it make me super relexed?

just something ive wondered about

haha, you are keen for a buzz. Havnt seen you on the boards in a while aye. Sounds like your in a bit of a crisis there.Mabey you shouldnt have downed that bottle of vicks, that would make a huge impact on whats happening in your life now... DXM fucks your body up pretty bad (im never gonna try it!). All i can say is once you start to impove, stop taking the pills, ask your doctor or something. how much of a heavy drinker were you? Hope your feeling better :)

Well done to the thread starter, it's good you're sorting yourself out.

I do, however, agree with everyone who says the anti-depressants are no good, but if they're working, then what's the problem I guess.
I've got doctors trying to get me to take Prozac, but fuck that, weed helps my anxiety way more than any chemicals the healthcare system could feed me. :twocents:

Also, if you're thinking of taking 5 of the generic zoloft, I would not recommend it. It won't do anything, other than give you a whole host of side-effects, I would imagine.

Are you sure marijuana is what you smoked?

ya, good for you, i don't het why some ppl are against using prescription drugs and stuff they help out alot of ppl

i went to see the doctor yesterday casue he wants to see me every thursday to cheak up and see how its goin,
he simply asked if they were working yet, and if the karma are making me relaxed, i said, yea kinda, so he pretty much doubled my dose anyway and said he gave a very low dose to start off with cause he wanted to see if my body would reacted badly to them, which they didnt so he upped the dose. but yea i dunno bout taking heaps of xdep because he said it takes a month for the full effects of it to kick in, but i recon 5 karma tablets would mellow me out like shit. but i wont do it as i dont have many left... im still smokin weed everyday i had some nothern lights at school the other day and this chon bush for the past 2 days with a mate....its too hard to stop but i dont have anymore tha 5 cones a day so im just cuttin down. im feeling great atm though.

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haha, you are keen for a buzz. Havnt seen you on the boards in a while aye. Sounds like your in a bit of a crisis there.Mabey you shouldnt have downed that bottle of vicks, that would make a huge impact on whats happening in your life now... DXM fucks your body up pretty bad (im never gonna try it!). All i can say is once you start to impove, stop taking the pills, ask your doctor or something. how much of a heavy drinker were you? Hope your feeling better :)

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yea havent seen u for a while too, where in aus u at again?
...and the vicks lol, yea i was a dxmholic a few months ago had like 6 bottles in one week...that fucked my insides real bad aye! i dont plan on tryin it for a while but its an awsome experence...espesh at the dentist haha. only prob is the robo walk. i drank alot of goon (nasty) but im off that now cause it got me in trouble.
but yea prob get really drunk every 3 days...and smoke smoke prob over 10 cones a day..everyday...at school as well, and ive mixxed weed and grog together alot and i know that can lead to problems. now its fuckin with my brainn

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holy shit man, you smoke and drink a fuck load! im from west oz,, out of curiostity, have you heard of a strain called red devil? (the only strains people talk about round here is whitewidow , kush and red devil). Good to hear ur getting better, becareful with drinking and smoking while on meds,, things can sometimes get nasty!

I personally don't understand why some people are being so closed minded. Some mental disorders don't come around until someone is older like bi-polar and Schizophrenia, but I want to say it has been proven that use of cannibus definitely catalyzes said disorders in a negative way.

While cannibus is an awesome hobby/way of life it isn't the only thing in the universe. And it's no more divine than the Catholic church. It's just a plant that has some awesome effects. If you leave wheat, or potatoes in water and let it ferment it makes alcohol. That's pretty natural too. Not everything natural is beautiful. I know someone in this thread has already labored this point, it just makes sense.

Anything if abused will fuck you up. Most things in moderation are fine. Except masturbation, you gotta do that like 8 times a day for it to work.

if you had a mental condition before smoking herb, im sure it would have gotten to this extent eventually. but smoking that much.. especially durring school.. will definately bring you down... keep it for the weekends.

thats really inspring man, it shows great character that you had the guts to do all that shit by yourself.

damn theres a drug called karma? thats badass :D

Prescription medications mask the root problem of your anxiety attacks. Yes, you may have temporary relief of your symptoms but your anxiety attacks started for a reason. You need to discover the root problem in order to find the solution as to why your body is reacting with an anxiety attack instead of covering it up with medication.

Prescription medications are addictive, which can mean a long, agonizing withdrawal period when you want to get off them. You have to wean yourself off gradually and this process can cause your anxiety attack symptoms to worsen or other side affects to occur before you are completely off the prescription medication.

After long-term use of the prescription medication, you may find that you need higher doses in order to keep the medication functioning. You may end up returning to your doctor repeatedly, only to have him increase your dosage, or worse, prescribe a stronger medication for you.

The remarkable part about these drug prescription commercials is the disclaimer they ramble off quickly near the end listing the side affects that some of these prescription drugs can produce. Are you truly prepared to risk your long-term health by taking these prescription medications?

The commercials make the "cure" sound so wonderful: take a pill and all your anxiety attack symptoms will be gone. It's very tempting to be seduced into a quick-fix. However, you should take a pro-active approach and do further research before you buy into these so-called "cures". There is massive information available on the internet about anxiety disorders as well as on specific prescription drugs and their side-effects.

You should know that natural remedies do exist such as Chamomile tea or St. John's Wort for relief of some anxiety attack symptoms. Moreover, you may find that an appointment with a Naturopathic doctor or a Hypno-Therapist to be a more natural solution than a visit to your family physician and his trusty prescription pad.

Be an informed anxiety attack patient. Do your research and find the natural cure that will work for you over the long term without the harmful side-effects. Anxiety attacks are 100% curable; you only need to find the natural solution that is right for you.

Hi

Great for ya mate getting your life back on track!

I would like to ask a question now that the subject is brought up.

I'm 21 this year and for the last few years of my life I dont know why I just have no good feeling. When im with my mate's I get really paranoid, never really find joke's funny well I do but you know the way yourself and your mate's could be slagging each other I sometime's can get the joke's but can never come back with anything, so I just like staying in home where I wont get paranoid. I always start sweating sometime's for no reason what so ever and just always kinding keep my mouth shut because im afraid to say something that is stupid. Kinda hard to explain but I think you know what I mean im in the very same boat as you.

I never smoked during school did my final exam's and always wanted to do something good in life. But know im coming up to 21 I think I should try get abit of help, year's are flying by really without feeling it, always think I had good life before pot.

Anyway's I have been thinking of going to doctor's but I just feel the doc will say just give up smoking and you will be grand. If I go to doctor's do you think they will give real advice other than just give up smoking.

Thanks

I'm very serious about what I said in my last post so please if anyone could help I would be most greatful

You made the choice to smoke during school, etc...You sound like you need to learn to use marijuana a little bit more responsibly. And it isn't the 'dope' that made you do all these unresponsible things, it's you that made the descision to let your life go where ever it went, just as it's your descision to go to the doctor and get these medications that will help you out. You shouldn't have been smoking marijuana in that state of mind, and you can't say that it was the 'dope' that did it to you. Everyone says that, but it's really their fault. Marijuana is the easiest substance to use responsibly because it's not addicting, nor is it highly intoxicating as compared to alcohol and most other things out there...It's just a feeling, and it's not worth throwing any bit of your life away just to get stoned.

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I'm very serious about what I said in my last post so please if anyone could help I would be most greatful

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If you're not feeling anything from smoking, and you're not feeling like the same person while you're high, maybe you should quit smoking. Sounds like a tolerance, and due to tolerance you're not happy with how smoking is making you feel. This has happened to me several times..Just quit smoking for a month or two and smoking should be what it used to.

yea what he said ^

Stoned,

First,that is great that you went to a Dr. to get some professional help.I had a friend who was severly bi-polar and he refused to seek any professional help or take meds;we are no longer friends because his behavior just got out of control.His bi-polar was so bad that the only meds that would work on him was Lithium and that made him a walking zombie,so he decided to self-medicate.
He would mix copius amounts of weed with alcohol [during manic phases] with speed or coke [during the depressive states].Naturally,the combination of drugs made his condition more severe.Sad thing was,this was an EXTREMELY intelligent man in his 40's who knew better,but his personal demons got the best of him.
I have always been prone to bouts of depression and if I was going through a very heavy-use period,pot would exacerbate the depression in the long-term.Short-term,of course,it would lift me out of the state of depression and I would feel "normal".That's how you get caught up in fooling yourself that pot "helps".Humans love to fool themselves...:)
I quit recently for a pre-employment test,and will eventually smoke again,but at this moment,I'm doing fine without it;don't even crave it [unlike damn cigarettes!].I'm sure I will enjoy it much more since my tolerance will be much lower than before.
Kudos again to you for recognizing that you needed help..many people don't and their lives are shattered because of it.

unfortunately ive been smokin it heavily for 5-6 years now and i do feel i need help, ive lost all confidence in myself and paranoia is getting the best of me, i just dont see more drugs as a safe way out, good luck tho man, i got my fingers crossed for you, - peace peeps