are these pics any better?:D
same cam just in the sunlight
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are these pics any better?:D
same cam just in the sunlight
That plant looks beautiful and healthy ^_^. Cant wait to see the buds it produces.
Hey Yab, sorry its been awhile since I saw your stuff but I must say it is looking good. Sorry to hear about the burn again, hope it didn't effect the plant to severly. A good way to see what sex your plants are is to get a 30x magnifying lens and look for the usual signs. If you don't know what to look for the internet has some pretty good magnified images of early preflowers. Quick question, what, if any, type of fertilizer will you be using during flowering and if so what is the N-P-K value? Another thing, add sugar to your water regime during flowering. It helps improve bud growth and development for larger yeilds.
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Thanks kush, the burn kinda stressed that plant (not the one in the pic)
it went droopy on me after the top of one of the branches got toasted.
I hope it recovers but its not looking all that great it lost its luster and
bushiness the leafs are all sagging.
I had some kinda microscope a long time ago that was perfect for spotting
the sex organs on plants but lost it I'll have to get another one for future
grows. It was cool you could detach the microscope part.
Im switching to 15-30-15 and picking up some bone meal for flowering.
I usually add corn syrup to my flowering plants, would just pure
granulated sugar be better?
Thanks orange, that's the plant out of the two I have that IQuote:
Originally Posted by orangeman
really want to be female. Its been a stinky little plant the whole
veg. cycle.:D
I just use regular granulated sugar from Wal-Mart. As for bone meal, I have never put it in a water mix. It is usually put in with the soil. It isn't supposed to be added to your watering regime but is supposed to be a additive for your soil. As for the corn syrup, I have never used it but I could test it out one of these days and see if it makes any difference.
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Cool I'll try the straight up sugar this go around. The bone meal yeah itsQuote:
Originally Posted by kush07
a soil amendment I put a small layer on the dirt and mix it into the top
layer of soil. I always use it on my outdoor plants (not this year though:( )
and they seem to love it. I been wanting to give rock phosphate a try
and see how it would work out compared to bone meal. If that one
plant don't croak on me I might use R.P. on it and bone meal on the
other and see if there is any difference. I think both have simuliar
guaranteed analyisises.
I was looking back over the thread and I am curious to know how much more head room you have left in you grow space. You could do a 90 degree LST now so you will have more cola growth. Actually, it might be better to wait until the plants have shown sex then LST them. That should help maximize your available space.
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Yeah, i am going to have to do something they have only about aQuote:
Originally Posted by kush07
foot of space left to grow upwards. I will defiantly have to wait till
they sex because after tying them down they will be growing into
each other.
That one plant has started to come back around but lost a shit load
of leafs. It looks a bit naked now LOL here is a pic of it now you should
have seen it two days ago the whole plant drooped over and all the
leafs were hanging down like a weeping willow. I gave it some calcium
and epsom salt don't know if that helped but I knew it wouldnt hurt it.
Yep it looks a bit naked now.....LOL
Oh yeah here it is after the light burn while it was still all drooped over.
I already had an epitaph ready for this plant but it was a fighter..LOL
Mmmm, looks like the plant took that burn pretty badly. To help it get out of its shock use some superthrive, sugar, or corn syrup (yes, it does work as good as sugar). Oh, you could call that plant Rocky cause it seems to be a fighter that isn't willing to just lay down and give up.
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Hey Kush
Whats your Ratio of Sugar to water. Like one tablespoon per gallon?
As well just to double check Granulated sugar White PLane Jane Sugar correct?
THanks your help is greatly appreciated.
kd_sepcial
LOL yeah kush07 the plant came back around and is doing fine
now. Lost alot of leafs but its back to growing :D
here are some update pics
oh yeah forgot, one female and still not sure on the other. no
hairs yet but 90% sure it female also. The one that almost died
was the one that showed sex first and turned out female.
They are tied down and the branches are mixing in with
eachother so I hope the other is female cause it will be
a bitch taking that plant out now.
kdspecial-I usually start by slowly inducing the plants to sugar. Usually with the sugar solution I put one Tsp. starting in 20 oz. bottles and water the plants with that. When I put it into gallon solutions I usually double starting solution and go up from there. Usually I end up with about 6 tsp. per gallon. I have never had a problem with too much sugar either.
yab- I would watch that plant that burned and look for hermie tendencies cause that is a lot of stress for a plant to to through. Also, trim your lower brances cause the light is going to get caught in your top canopy and the lower branches will not recieve much light. You want your plants energy to be focused on the top branches cause that is where most of your light is going to be trapped.
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I know this is a little late, but no one answered your lighting question. Those 42W bulbs @ Wal Mart are for flowering. They carry the ones for veg in lower watts @ my local Wal Mart. For veg stage, you should use the blue packs which have a color temp of 6500K. If it doesn't say 6500k, don't assume that they are. Not that you can't grow them with those, but I just wanted to clarify for future trips to Wal Mart :)
Thanks, I noticed they had an orange hue to them. The color tempQuote:
Originally Posted by Pass That Shit
wasn't on the package and I didn't even think to look at the numbers
on the page I looked up on those lights. The light temp is 2,700 which
is definitely warm. Well they are in flowering now so they are just right
for this stage LOL.
If I use CFL's again I'll keep that in mind. And thanks again on clearing
that up on those lights for me :thumbsup:
Its good that you have a Warm CFL. Just how many do you have exactly? Another thing, I was just thinking that because you have such a confined space and the plants are growing into each other you could do a SOG experiment. Just trim all of you lower leaves cause they will recieve so little amount of light that they will actually be inhibiting the plant. Just leave your main top branches and the plant will devote most of its energy into those top branches and give you some pretty good sized top buds.
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A head of you on that one Kush07 I noticed the lower branches andQuote:
Originally Posted by kush07
leafs were not getting enough light and had pretty much stopped growing
so I did a little bit of trimming to the bottom layers of both plants.
Good news though both are female and multiple flowering sites are
showing. Now the fun begins:D
As for the lights it is still 3, 42 watt CFL's.
Thanks for all your advice so far kush:stoned:
I cut back some of the larger fan leafs because they
were shading the new growth on the flowering sites.
I really don't like cutting anything but they were
hindering the light reaching the new growth.
The canopy is really starting to fill out. For a simple
grow like this I really didn't expect these results. Not
as good as other grows I have done but I am pleased
so far.
I have not put as much effort into this grow as past
grows and it shows me that any one who wants to
grow their own to smoke and enjoy the hobby of
growing that it is not hard to do.
The show is looking good yab. The fan leaves you cut off, where they blocking lower buds or upper buds? Also, how much stalk is bare on the bottom of your plants? All seems to be going well and I hope it continues.
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Thanks kush all is going good, yes the larger fan leafs were shading
a lot of the bud sites on the top of the plant on the bottom I cut
the smaller branches and leafs that were not getting any light about
4 inchs on the bottom.
here are some good pics of the grow I took a few days ago
I am thinking seriously about setting up another larger
grow. The small two plant grow im doing now is great
but its like taking a girl to the prom and not getting laid.
I am going over some rough drafts of an operation I might
set up in the future. This will be set up so i can have a
constant cycle of plants going all the time. This maybe a
year or so in the making because unfortunately I might have
to serve some jail time in the near future.
Any ways here is a sketch I drew over a picture of the spot
I plan on setting it up. The air intake and out-takes are going
to be simple, the wall behind that goes to a laundry room I don't
use any more so i can connect the out takes to the old dryer vent
and let the intakes just sit in that room (2 intakes and 2 out-takes
all together I did not draw where the intake and out-take will go
on the mother and cloning rooms). I plan on getting some paneling
to use as doors to both sides so it will give the illusion of just being
a flat wall when the doors are closed and if i cannot find matching
panels I'll paint the room on the out side so it all matches with the
doors to the grow areas. Still undecided on lighting but most likely
will use MH and Hps for the veg and flowering rooms. The rooms
will be split in half horizontally as you can see in the sketch, giving
around 5x4 feet and 3 feet coming out for each of the 4 spaces.
I most likely wont need all that room for the cloning area so I could
raise the top of the mother room.
Edit:4 intakes and 4 out takes
plants are looking better now yabatab.and that willbe a nice set when you get it up and running.the postman.
Thanks postman
Man I just pulled the one of the worst moves I ever have, christ all mighty
im slick. I was removing some dead leafs from one of my plants and
when I reached back to get this big ass yellow leaf my wrist watch got
hooked on one of the strings I had the other plant tied down with
when I pull my hand back not knowing that the string hand got hooked
I snapped one of my plant stems in two right near the base, my favorite
one too. RIP little plant....Looks like some immature bud and some brownies
now. I am thinking about scraping the other plant and starting from scratch
cause that was the only plant out of the two i really gave a shit about
the other one has weak ass genetics I can tell from the budding sites.
I might just still be pissed about killing my favorite plant out of the grow
too I might let the other plant go a head and mature not sure yet if
I am just going to start over from seeds from a seed bank since I know
what CFL's can do now or carry out the rest of the grow with this one
plant that's left. And I just smoked a oven cured bud off that plant and
damn that was going to be some sweet bud if it would have matured.
oh man, that is f*cked up. I know you must be so pissed right now. Take an hour before you make a decision on the fate of the survivor....I still think it has a chance to be a good crop if given the opportunity. It could give you some serious buds if you spare her, while youre waiting for the other seeds to come?
I think it was this thread that got me thinking that CFL's may be viable light source instead of the HPS light I already have, so I ordered up a bunch of goodies that are in the mail to me now. I'd hate to know that the grow that inspired me met such a tragic end. :(
Man, sorry to hear about your misfortune yab. That is some bad karma there but I wouldn't give up on the other plant. Let it continue to grow. Any bowls you get from that plant are bowls you didn't have to pay for.
Also, what did you do to get jail time. Sorry to hear you might have to serve some though. If you do I pray that it goes well (as can be).
I looked over you grow set up and I have a few comments.
1) Make your flowering room the size of your veg room or just switch your veg and flower room cause you plants can double or even triple in size during flowering.
2) Make your mother plant room bigger cause a mother plant needs all the room she can get for the bush style she needs to be productive enough.
3) Cloning rooms can be small cause most clones only need to veg for a month and then can be set to flower. Of course that is good for a SOG set up and also for a perpetual harvest as well.
4) You will need at least 12'' of space between your top plants and all HID lights so be sure to compensate for that in your grow plans.
5) Squirel fans work good for intake and outake fans and are cheap as well. You may have to order those fans but some hardware superstores carry them as well.
6) In addition to intake and outake fans you will need circulation fans to move that fresh air around the plants.
7) You can continue to use the CFL lights as good side and supplemental lighting. Also, many top breeders and growers will suggest you use flouros almost exclusively for clones so if you have some extra flouros I suggest you do that.
Thats about all I can think of right now. Once again, I am sorry to hear about your misfortune but don't let it get you down. Shit like that happens to the best of us so keep on growing and let your green flag fly.
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sorry to here that yabatb damn life can be hard.the postman.
I guess I will finish this remaining plant off as in let it mature to
harvest not finish it off as in kill it LOL.
doco: I am glad that this grow inspired you towards using CFLs. :D
Kush07: I have to serve jail time for a 4th offense D.U.I. I know
stupid hu. I got three about 8 years ago and screwed up and got
out driving all messed up on x_n_xs <(edited for content LOL) last
december and got my 4th. Which is a felony charge here, man drug
offenders and DUI cases get more time than childmolesters sometimes
shows how ass backwards the US legal system is.
The DA's office just got my tox screen back a few weeks ago so my
trail is in Dec. It has been reset 3 times because of the DA not having
the tox screen so I have been living in limbo for about a year on this
shit. If it would have been tried on the first court date I could have
done served my time and been out. But really I am just glad I didnt
hurt anyone and I really cant deffend my stupidity on the fact that
I did drive while I was fucked up. I cant even remeber being aressted
I remeber waking up and thinking fuck this has to be a nightmare I am
in jail and it was, I just didnt wake up haha. Well good ideas come to
you when you have that much time to think while in jail so I'll have a
hell of an idea for a grow room when I get out.
Postman: Life is a bitch sometimes I hear you, bad luck comes in waves so I
am just wondering whats next, the gods are angry at me LOL must be all
that shit I did i cant remeber it must have been some bad shit though.
Yeah man, I hear what you are saying. The U.S. legal system is all messed up. The Marc Emery case is a prime example of such a thing. Damn, I am sorry to hear you might have to serve jail time though. Life can be a bitch. Lol, just thought of how true your signature is, LOFL. :thumbsup:
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yebatab .sorry to hear of your troubles my freind We all do stupid thing in our lifes .hope its all over soon mate then you can continue to grow in peace. best of luck and dont think you are alone as they say been there done that.things do get better.be safe the postman.
Hey Yab, for my 2nd DUI (many years ago) I was sentenced to 45 days (I deserved it but Im not going to go into that) and when I showed up to serve it, I sat in the holding cell about 4 hours and they called my name and let me go, time served! They said the jail was too crowded and just the fact that I showed up was good enough. That was like 15 years ago in Santa Clara , CA county but who knows, strange things can happen. The fact that the DA postponed the case so long could have some implications too...you have a right to a speedy trial (I think its 90 days in CA)and if your attorney has his shit together, there may be something to look at there, I dunno.
Anyway, glad you decided to let the girl turn into a lady. I'll hope for the best for the both of you.
Thanks all
yeah my sig fits me kush07 LOL. postman thanks for the words man. doco
yeah we have an over crowding problem in our jails here too its crazy
most are drug cases and DUI offenders.
Well on to the plant that is left. It is in another home now. I set up a
small closet grow for a friend this weekend with the same 42 watt CFL
lights I was using but one extra so its under 4 cfls. It is his first grow
attempt so whats better than a plant in the middle of flowering to
get you into growing. I will be ordering some seeds and starting a new
grow soon as my time maybe limited the final stages on this grow may
have to go into another persons hands also but trust me I will be able
to sample the end product no matter where I am. As I didn't finish the
grow on this thread and don't really see the need to start a new one I
will post the new grow here too.
Thanks to all of you for your advice and kind words so far.
Keep up the good fight!
yabatab, for the past sevral weeks ive been reading a loy ogf your posts and you seem like the kind of person that would help out a beginner (me), how many indicas could i grow in a 4'-3'-6'(length-width-heighth) grow cab? the strain i plan on using is big B as it has the highest yield and is short
a lot of* sorry im a little drunk, btw im sorry to hear you might do time, that should be a crime, i just made a rhyme. so you gave away your other plant? i wish i had it, poor me
MastaChronic you can give a plant between 1 and 10 square feet per
plant just depends on how big you plan on going you can have severel
small plants using LST and/or forced flowering. You have 6 feet hight
so you could have a couple of monsters or around 4 to 6 smalller plants.
Id do 3 good sized plants with that though.
Yeah I gave that plant away, no big loss its just a plant. Plus it gives
me more time to start a strain I have always wanted to grow
Hawaiian Sativa x Cotton Candy I plan on putting an order in for
those in a week or so and get a couple of those going. Cotton
candy mama is the strain I want but the cross was all I could find.
Any one that knows where I can find the original Cotton candy
mama strain leave a link.
thanks yabatab:), some cotton candy sounds yummy right about now
Well, I just got back from my friends house I gave that remaining plant to.
And the retard had cut her down 3 days ago way before she had matured.
I told him if I gave that to him and finished it which wasn't much to do all
he had to do was give me like a 25% of what he got from it.....well I ended
up with 9 grams of immature bud and a pile of fucking leafs. I know he got
way more than that off it and the fact that he couldn't wait till she was
mature really pisses me off. But what can I say its my fault for not doing
it myself and I was right the genetics of this plant did suck.
well here it is .....this is what I got, he didn't even cure it right he cut
all the buds off the plant insted of cutting her at the base and then
cutting the branches so the the buds are dry already and taste god
awful. I told him id help him out but he wanted to do it his way. Oh well
I thought I had a co op partner but his impatience will not work with
what I am trying to do. I am not giving up on him though I am still
going to help him out on his next grow. Thats was a common first grow
error so I understand.
well this is what I got