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Originally Posted by UnitedWeFall
I love you so much right now. Haha, nah.
But seriously, I have never heard anyone put it so well before. Gah, your post makes me so angry, yet so happy that I myself am Christian and know exactly what you mean :D
I really don't give a crap if what I believe is wrong. The point is, it makes me happy, and it helps me to make the right choices in life. I'm only 18 and yet I have already accepted life for what it is, and am no longer scared of dying.
Believing in Christianity makes life so much more liveable.
Keep this view and your faith can't help but to grow in the right direction. In this crazy world you need an anchor to help keep you steady in the storms of life. Even Atheist have there unbelief as an anchor to help them to fight a possible fear of an all mighty God that might judge them for every thought and action ever made from the smallest to the biggest, from the most loving to the most hateful. And it also helps them to make since of the world as they have experienced it, and life experience makes up our belief systems up more than truth does IMO, and this is unfortunate at the same time.
Adieu
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Originally Posted by HeartCore
Where am I off? The story of Jesus happened at least 15 times in the 2000 years preceeding the man which really proofs, at least to me, its a myth.
Early christianity is basically a set of stolen pagan principles. In many instances, the entire story was shamelessly copied with only the name of the main actor changed to Jesus. This has nothing to do with the book of job at all. You would be right if the life of Jesus as presented in the new testament, would be in the book of Job, detailed. SInce it isnt there's not way these stories could have come from the book of job.
Please enlighen me and let me know where I am off ;)
Where are you off? Hmm it is apparent IMO that you make it a practice to read anti Christian literature in a significant amount, or you seem to focus on those arguments that would over throw the validity of Christianity and the bible. I guess that this is fairly normal once a person takes a dislike to Christianity, since typically people seem to be threatened by Christianity more than any other religion for many reasons, and some being quite valid considering that particular persons lifestyle, or radical forms of Christianity that do harm people and nations which should be seen as a significant threat.
Hmm, I guess that I will start frequenting this board a little more because it seems rather amusing.
Well, do you believe in Alexander the Great, Socrates, Buda or any other significant personage in history that are BC? Well, a widely spread fact amongst historians both secular and religious , Christian and other is that the existence of Jesus as a historical personage aside from his Powers, relation to God and so on is considered a historical fact. Reason, historians of the period in which Jesus lived who documented many things about that period in history aside from Jesus, who they only mentioned in insignificant portions of their larger notable historical works were able to document enough things about the existence of Jesus to well establish his life. This is known as extra biblical information.
When studying history don't be mislead by reading 2 or 3 books that try to take apart a premise, theory or fact on a subject that has impacted the world more than any other event and think that the author of that book has the all end facts on the topic. That would seem to be very non analytical for a person of your intellectual capacity who seems to attempt to grasp the most profound premises with the ut most regard to the logistical factors of a argument.
Adieu, out of time for now, but not out of thoughts
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Let's rewind a few thousand years (more I know). There is not science like we knot it, there is not knowledge like we know it, everything was undiscovered. Religions (any and all) were designed to answer all of life's really hard questions and give people the answers they DESPERATELY needed. They had no way of figuring out these questions and this was the best guess they could come up with. People needed something to believe in. Religion was designed to regulate society. Live your life this way, or you're going to hell. Don't steal, lie, or cheat or you're going to hell.
The Bible is a history book. A damn good one and a good read but not much more than that. It tells very very vague stories about what may or may not have happened back then. Just like how humans evolved to be the dominant life form on earth, the Bible evolved to be the single most influential thing as to how most people live their lives. Why? Because a mythical figure snapped his figures, said let there be light, and there was Adam? Life began in a garden? PLEASE!!! By allowing yourselves to believe that this is where came from and this is how we got here you're insulting the human race and the capability of the human brain!! Logic, science, truth, facts. Concrete evidence. True or false. Reality. Do these words mean anything to anyone? The world has changed in the last 2000 years....wake up!!!!!
In another 2000 years we'll be CREATING humans out of raw materials we made in a lab...and God will be a brand of space age ice cream....and we'll still celebrate Christmas because we get presents not because of Jesus....
The purpose of life is to obtain self satisfaction, prosperity and passing on your legacy, not Heaven or Hell. The smartest people in the world will (and have) pass/ed religion by and discover things that are factual and have bearing in TODAY's world, NOT a prehistoric one...and religion will slowly fade away as another "apocalypse" passes or when the "day of reckoning" comes and passes without a ripple. Actually that is not true. Religion will be around as long as there are people that still believe in it. Racists still live in America because their parents before them believed in life that way and that is what was taught. As intelligence and the thirst for knowledge takes over as time goes on, however, the MYTHS will die!
I could ramble on for about 30 years on this topic but a lot of my fellow dope smoking members of CANN.COM have pretty much pwned!! (props to Oneironau)
And Spirit Level...you said this...
"... turn ur 2 dimensional triangle featuring religion, philosophy and science at its walls and add depth and height (3 dimensions) [sphere]
religion and science and philosophy don't fit the tru equation, but hopefully u can see how mathematics over anything else rules but not as we think..."
First off, you can't add height to a 2-dimensional object its already there ;) Lenght x Height? That's 2 dimensions... can't have 2 heights :thumbsup: And how would you turn it?
Second off, you said fit the true equation? What equation? You rambled for a few minutes talking half-heartedly kind-of sort of about imposing an equilateral triangle in a perfect circle and then making the the circle a sphere enclosing the triangle inside?
Third...you were talking smack on a different thread because a fellow dope smoker went to college for engineering. You scolded him for subjecting himself to academia and the governments twisted plot to mold us and what not and all we did was try and explain to you how mathematics was always true? In response we got some beefed up, thesaraus charged speech that really made no sense at all, even though it was a great attempt at using big words! Now you're defending mathematics on this thread? SO are you bipolar or did you see that we were right before and math really isn't so devilish?
PS: Jesus existed. And he was dark skinned. And he was probably schizophranic and no one knew it because they didn't know what it was then. Yeah, I know. God doesn't exist. Okay? Good!
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Alchemy=primative chemistry
Astrology=primative Astronomy
Numerology=primative Mathematics
Religion=primative Government
I have no problem with any relgion that anyone wants to practice personally, except when that relgion demands that I'm going to get it rammed down my throat and I'm going to have to live by their imposed morals and rules.
Worship Elvis for all I care but don't be trying to teach our children mysticism instead of science, or getting laws passed that dictate how everyone else must live within the edicts of a particular relgious credo.
If Christians were actually practicing the 'red letter' parts, instead of the new Faldwellian NeoInquisition, there would never be a controversy or any debate.
Geez, turn off Pat Robertson, open the Book, read it for yourselves and leave everyone else alone.
A wiseman once said 'I have no problem with God. It's his fanclub that scares the shit out of me!'
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Originally Posted by graymatter
I'm no fan of christianity... but what constitutes "happiness" in your opionion?
If your happenings are not happening the way you want your happenings to happen, your unhappy. ...But If your happenings are happening the way you want your happenings to happen....your happy.
1st Brad Ch 2 vs 3 - 4.
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Originally Posted by Hempstone
Actually, you are wrong. Jesus tells us "The Kingdom of Heaven is WITHIN YOU!" Contemplate that. We are to store up our treasures not on earth but in Heaven and where our treasure is there our heart is also. So if we store our treasures in Heaven and our heart resides there that is to say the Kingdom of Heaven is within us, we go there where the Most High God lives and reigns and Jesus sits at the right hand of God. We seek that Spiritual center. The more you know this, the more you know God, in THIS life, HERE on Earth. That is why we pray we are to pray that God's will be done on earth as it is in Heaven.
Interesting connections you made there Hemp, I like that. It brings every thing back to His residence internally. This aspect of the kingdom has fascinated me for some time now. If investments are made somewhere on our part, a treasure will accumulate. Considering the fact that our treasure will be where our investments have been made, makes it clear that our hearts will be there.
..."Where your treasure is there your heart will be also".
From this it is appropriate to conclude.....If our affections are off somewhere in our lives......re: our spouses, Kids, anything,.....all that is needed is to begin making investments again, and we can conclude that our heart will follow. For our investments will be there and the resultant treasure also.
These investments always come back with considerable interest. The returned rewards are worth ever penny. Not just for us but concider the other involved. This is so good and so simple.
Peace Hemp
His by the way.
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Beliefs are dangerous. Faith, on the other hand, is a whole 'nother ball of wax:
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"Faith is a state of openness or trust. To have faith is to trust yourself to the water. When you swim you don't grab hold of the water, because if you do you will sink and drown. Instead you relax, and float. And the attitude of faith is the very opposite of clinging to belief, of holding on. In other words, a person who is fanatic in matters of religion, and clings to certain ideas about the nature of God and the universe, becomes a person who has no faith at all. Instead they are holding tight. But the attitude of faith is to let go, and become open to truth, whatever it might turn out to be." ~Alan Watts
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I hate christianity. That is a perversion of the truth if there ever was one. Jesus Christ himself said that the glory goes to the father. Why then does the apostle paul insist we worship him as a pagan sacrafice? Hmm, let's think about that for a minute... oh probably because Christianity replaced the Roman Empire's original paganism. Still, Christianity retains much of what is found in Mithraism and Paganism. The very notion of a God sacraficing his Divine Son for mine and your sins, is a direct reflection of Paganism. Also, Christianity contradicts what is found in the Torah (old testament ) , somewhere in leviticus where it is written that one should not offer his son as an offering for the lord. Why is that written? According to Jewish tradition, it is because the pagan tribes of the land would sacrafice their sons and daughters for their pagan gods, and Yahweh wanted no part of that in his religion.
Why do christians worship on Sunday, when the original sabbath was saturday? Answer: Because the pagan church used to worship on Sunday, before they all believed in Jesus Christ.
Also, the very notion of God as a 3 - part trinity ; when it is written "Sh'mah yisrael, adonai eloheinu adonai echad" --hebrew for "Hear, O israel! the lord your God, the lord is one" several times in the original Hebrew Tanach; this notion is entirely conflicting with the basic ideas of monotheism.
Interesting enough, the "holy spirit" is thought to be the angel Gabriel by Muslims.
It's very easy to prove christianity wrong, if you do your homework you will be surprised.
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Originally Posted by afghooey
Beliefs are dangerous. Faith, on the other hand, is a whole 'nother ball of wax:
I am not sure what you are trying to say.
I find Mr. Watts logic stange. The things that we can have faith in are those things that are easiest to hold on to. Using water as a metophor....I can hold onto faith in thick Ice to support my weight. If I chose to let go of that trueth and venture out on to the thin Ice....I will drown by faith..I have faith in the thick Ice....I think I'll hold to that.
I also have faith in God's grasp of me, not in my grasp of Him, by my own ability.
I find these very different. It would be interesting to see where Mr. Watts goes with this logic. I am not sure If I were to follow his metophor, that I would like where the river dumped me out.
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You can't always read too far into metaphors. They're not literal, after all. ;)
But the metaphor specifically was comparing beliefs to liquid water, not solid ice. And it works as such-- beliefs aren't tangible things, they're not as easily grasped in the same way that logic and reason are. Treating them as such, holding onto them like facts or trying to prove them in order to justify them, is like trying to grab hold of water for support.
Having ideas about god and the universe is one thing. Clinging obstinately to them and denying all other possibilities is another.
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Originally Posted by IanCurtisWishlist
I hate christianity. That is a perversion of the truth if there ever was one. Jesus Christ himself said that the glory goes to the father. Why then does the apostle paul insist we worship him as a pagan sacrafice? Hmm, let's think about that for a minute... oh probably because Christianity replaced the Roman Empire's original paganism. Still, Christianity retains much of what is found in Mithraism and Paganism. The very notion of a God sacraficing his Divine Son for mine and your sins, is a direct reflection of Paganism. Also, Christianity contradicts what is found in the Torah (old testament ) , somewhere in leviticus where it is written that one should not offer his son as an offering for the lord. Why is that written? According to Jewish tradition, it is because the pagan tribes of the land would sacrafice their sons and daughters for their pagan gods, and Yahweh wanted no part of that in his religion.
Why do christians worship on Sunday, when the original sabbath was saturday? Answer: Because the pagan church used to worship on Sunday, before they all believed in Jesus Christ.
Also, the very notion of God as a 3 - part trinity ; when it is written "Sh'mah yisrael, adonai eloheinu adonai echad" --hebrew for "Hear, O israel! the lord your God, the lord is one" several times in the original Hebrew Tanach; this notion is entirely conflicting with the basic ideas of monotheism.
Interesting enough, the "holy spirit" is thought to be the angel Gabriel by Muslims.
It's very easy to prove christianity wrong, if you do your homework you will be surprised.
Your conclusions are based on false premises. I can easily say that we are definitely operating out of different text books.
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Those who believe in a God will defend their God and are not going to change their minds about whether or not they think it's true.
Those logical analytical scientific thinkers who know better and do not believe in a God or any of that mythical prehistoric crap will defend truth and are not going to change their minds about whether or not they're right or wrong.
So basically this thread is going to bash heads for a while until it dies off...BUCKLE UP EVERYONE! ;)
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Originally Posted by afghooey
You can't always read too far into metaphors. They're not literal, after all. ;)
But the metaphor specifically was comparing beliefs to liquid water, not solid ice. And it works as such-- beliefs aren't tangible things, they're not as easily grasped in the same way that logic and reason are. Treating them as such, holding onto them like facts or trying to prove them in order to justify them, is like trying to grab hold of water for support.
Having ideas about god and the universe is one thing. Clinging obstinately to them and denying all other possibilities is another.
Your making a very good point. I frame these subjective relationships in the context of the belief in God simply because I personally have a tangible reason to do so. In that context, I believe your metaphor holds very true. I can attempt to hold to my perception of things as It relates to my relationship with Him and struggle against His work in my life. Letting go and simply allow Him to do His work on my heart and mind brings peace of mind that He will lead me in my life, specifically those things that are unknown ahead which can cause alot of anxiety, He can work out. I can also Hold on to the faith that He will do it because I have seen Him do it evry year. This is substance to me that I can personally hold onto like the security of the thicker Ice that I would much rather stand on. We may differ, and we probably do, but thats cool.....Good food for thought.
It is truly remarkable how He works things together for the good for those that love Him inspite of how badly I can get in the way and screw things up.
Thanks afghooey
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Originally Posted by IanCurtisWishlist
I hate christianity. That is a perversion of the truth if there ever was one. Jesus Christ himself said that the glory goes to the father. Why then does the apostle paul insist we worship him as a pagan sacrafice? Hmm, let's think about that for a minute... oh probably because Christianity replaced the Roman Empire's original paganism. Still, Christianity retains much of what is found in Mithraism and Paganism. The very notion of a God sacraficing his Divine Son for mine and your sins, is a direct reflection of Paganism. Also, Christianity contradicts what is found in the Torah (old testament ) , somewhere in leviticus where it is written that one should not offer his son as an offering for the lord. Why is that written? According to Jewish tradition, it is because the pagan tribes of the land would sacrafice their sons and daughters for their pagan gods, and Yahweh wanted no part of that in his religion.
Why do christians worship on Sunday, when the original sabbath was saturday? Answer: Because the pagan church used to worship on Sunday, before they all believed in Jesus Christ.
Also, the very notion of God as a 3 - part trinity ; when it is written "Sh'mah yisrael, adonai eloheinu adonai echad" --hebrew for "Hear, O israel! the lord your God, the lord is one" several times in the original Hebrew Tanach; this notion is entirely conflicting with the basic ideas of monotheism.
Interesting enough, the "holy spirit" is thought to be the angel Gabriel by Muslims.
It's very easy to prove christianity wrong, if you do your homework you will be surprised.
Iancurtiswishlist, I understand you difficulties, I think to a degree. I am not sure which passage from Paul you are referring to. I don??t think that matters though.. I don??t understand at all how you can deduce that Paul was promoting Paganism. Paul was a pharisee, who sat at the feet of Gamaliel. He was a Jew of Jews. He was very zealous for Judaism..... Paganism?
You are disregarding the father of Faith....Abraham. What was Gods request of Abraham on Mt. Mariah? This is in the Torah as you know. You Ignored this.
Sunday, is used by Christians I understand, because it is the beginning of the new week, A new beginning. The Sabbath principle is honored. Which is at the core of what God wants anyway.
How about the ??Type? established of the sacrifices that started from the beginning, with the animals killed for there skins, of which God used to cover both Adam and Eve, again a Type established of God covering us ...blood being shed was also a result. I do not understand how someone can quote scripture in Hebrew and not know these things. Clearly the picture of Christ's Crucifixion was laid out through the whole of the Bible......Ok lets say through he entirety of the Torah.
You can be convinced in your mind concerning anything that you chose to believe.
Your own logic .... use or misuse of facts is irrelevant to me......To say that you can easily disprove it is foolish.
A little bit of pride ....with some arrogance mixed in??
Isaiah 53 alone........ reveiles your claims to be false.
Isaiah lived during the late eighth and early seventh centuries B.C. .http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Isaiah
We must accept, this very involved and spoken of provision of God or be absolutly lost. He made the rules here. He chose to do things this way Bitching about it doesn't change a thing ....he has established himself through history....It is His..story.
Isaiah 53
The Suffering Servant
1Who has believed our message?
And to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?
2For He grew up before Him like a tender shoot,
And like a root out of parched ground;
He has no stately form or majesty
That we should look upon Him,
Nor appearance that we should be attracted to Him.
3He was despised and forsaken of men,
A man of sorrows and acquainted with grief;
And like one from whom men hide their face
He was despised, and we did not esteem Him.
4Surely our griefs He Himself bore,
And our sorrows He carried;
Yet we ourselves esteemed Him stricken,
Smitten of God, and afflicted.
5But He was pierced through for our transgressions,
He was crushed for our iniquities;
The chastening for our well-being fell upon Him,
And by His scourging we are healed.
6All of us like sheep have gone astray,
Each of us has turned to his own way;
But the LORD has caused the iniquity of us all
To fall on Him.
7He was oppressed and He was afflicted,
Yet He did not open His mouth;
Like a lamb that is led to slaughter,
And like a sheep that is silent before its shearers,
So He did not open His mouth.
8By oppression and judgment He was taken away;
And as for His generation, who considered
That He was cut off out of the land of the living
For the transgression of my people, to whom the stroke was due?
9His grave was assigned with wicked men,
Yet He was with a rich man in His death,
Because He had done no violence,
Nor was there any deceit in His mouth.
10But the LORD was pleased
To crush Him, putting Him to grief;
If He would render Himself as a guilt offering,
He will see His offspring,
He will prolong His days,
And the good pleasure of the LORD will prosper in His hand.
11As a result of the anguish of His soul,
He will see it and be satisfied;
By His knowledge the Righteous One,
My Servant, will justify the many,
As He will bear their iniquities.
12Therefore, I will allot Him a portion with the great,
And He will divide the booty with the strong;
Because He poured out Himself to death,
And was numbered with the transgressors;
Yet He Himself bore the sin of many,
And interceded for the transgressors.
We must accept, this very involved and spoken of provision of God or be absolutly lost. He made the rules here ....he has established himself through history....It is His..story.
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Originally Posted by 420somewhere
Those who believe in a God will defend their God and are not going to change their minds about whether or not they think it's true.
Those logical analytical scientific thinkers who know better and do not believe in a God or any of that mythical prehistoric crap will defend truth and are not going to change their minds about whether or not they're right or wrong.
So basically this thread is going to bash heads for a while until it dies off...BUCKLE UP EVERYONE! ;)
Your right,....and that's not fun.
I'ts time to move on. It was good....very good at times. I got a tremendous amount out of this. I am leaving ....much larger than I came, and I thank you all for this.
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Ok I don't know if I'm onto something or if I need to quite the weed or what but this is what I came up with... If you can prove their is true pure happiness on earth then it proves heaven wrong...the bible states that heaven is perfect and that has happines that can't be reached on earth...so if anyone was to have a moment of pure happiness on earth then that would prove that their is pure happiness outside of heaven thus making a flaw in the bible...proving christianity wrong...wtf?
WHAT THE FUCK??? HAHAHAHAHahHAhaHHAh im soo stoned and i laughed my ass off when i read this. that is the worst logic ever.
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Originally Posted by 420somewhere
Those who believe in a God will defend their God and are not going to change their minds about whether or not they think it's true.
Those logical analytical scientific thinkers who know better and do not believe in a God or any of that mythical prehistoric crap will defend truth and are not going to change their minds about whether or not they're right or wrong.
So basically this thread is going to bash heads for a while until it dies off...BUCKLE UP EVERYONE! ;)
You're off. I believe in God. Have changed my mind about it.
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Originally Posted by 420somewhere
... And Spirit Level...you said this...
"... turn ur 2 dimensional triangle featuring religion, philosophy and science at its walls and add depth and height (3 dimensions) [sphere]
religion and science and philosophy don't fit the tru equation, but hopefully u can see how mathematics over anything else rules but not as we think..."
First off, you can't add height to a 2-dimensional object its already there ;) Lenght x Height? That's 2 dimensions... can't have 2 heights :thumbsup: And how would you turn it?
Second off, you said fit the true equation? What equation? You rambled for a few minutes talking half-heartedly kind-of sort of about imposing an equilateral triangle in a perfect circle and then making the the circle a sphere enclosing the triangle inside?
Third...you were talking smack on a different thread because a fellow dope smoker went to college for engineering. You scolded him for subjecting himself to academia and the governments twisted plot to mold us and what not and all we did was try and explain to you how mathematics was always true? In response we got some beefed up, thesaraus charged speech that really made no sense at all, even though it was a great attempt at using big words! Now you're defending mathematics on this thread? SO are you bipolar or did you see that we were right before and math really isn't so devilish?
PS: Jesus existed. And he was dark skinned. And he was probably schizophranic and no one knew it because they didn't know what it was then. Yeah, I know. God doesn't exist. Okay? Good!
My error. X is lenght, Y is height, and Z is depth. My explanation was such because I had the image of X & Y on a flat piece of paper without acknowledgeing Y as height. My utterance was purely hypethetical; probly why it resembled rambling and half heartedness. The true equation is a metaphor and not literal. Math can be superimposed on physical and non pysical events; thus we make calculations before making decissions, it is a mathematical process. As for the other thread and what was goin on over there, since You find it necessary to bring it up; If u bothered to read the thread properly or put down your selective amnesia you would have read the following also and I quote
"...I know that mathematics is a fundamental attribute to the existence of the universe and that there in; it's probably unchanged through the dimensions. I know that mathematics is either true or false, and that is why I studied maths at higher level. It is the only subject I know of that cannot be manipulated to become something else....."
http://boards.cannabis.com/showpost....9&postcount=26
I am not bipolar and I haven't suddenly seen any light; I still stand by what I said in the OTHER thread. The above quote is from one of my so called 'Beefed' up statements that made no sense? I do like word variety, I suppose it comes from reading the subjects I do. And I still don't think you are right. And neither do I share your views on this subject, but hey; we all have the right to think whatever we want to think, just because we think it does not make it right.:thumbsup:
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The Trilogy
I looked at Sacred Geometry a few years ago as a subject worthwhile embarking on. This came about after reading Bob Frissell??s ?? Nothing in this Book is True, But it??s Exactly How Things Are. http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/1583...59#reader-link It was around the same time I was studying math at higher level.
The first geometric shape reached consisting of just straight lines is a triangle as we know. Like; Mother & Father & Child; each being a straight line. The trilogy serves a purpose and can be identified as A + B = C which is one of the most basic of equations in the realm of mathematics. A triangle can exist but putting a circle around it ensures completeness i.e. (A + B = C) where the presence of brackets indicates that everything within them have a relationship separate, yet significant, to what is outside of them. Putting brackets around (Mother + Father = Child) could be interpreted as the brackets being a love connection or something which binds them and giving them that separate, unique relationship. But it must be noted that the brackets bind the equation and Not each component. This indicates that each component is dependent on the other and if the equation breaks then the brackets (love) disappears also because the simple equation is incomplete.
Adding depth, or volume to a simple equation like (A + B = C) by cubing the result adds another dimension. Depth is more spiritual that just the love brackets. But again, cubing outside the bracket means that all is lost when a component is taken out. (all is lost meaning the sum won??t calculate) So, the love and spiritual concepts can be lost when we look at a simple equation like that.
However each A and B component can correspond to the result of a previous equation; say (F^2 * (V * x^3) + Y = A) and (K^6 * (T - b^2) + Y = B). This means that A and B components could already have the Depth component within their equation (makeup) before they calculate and result with C. C can still be missing its depth even though it has inherited results from equations that have already been cubed(given volume/depth); C needs to add depth to itself to keep the family tree equation resultant figure rising. I don??t know what this figure represents/corresponds to as its all metaphorical.
Religion, Science and Philosophy are linear subjects. The reason I stated this was because it could be possible to somehow deduce an equation and work out the values of all the components. It won??t be as simple as (a + b = c) as it would probably consist of using all buttons on a state of the art scientific calculator. I am not going to proceed with a math lesson on adding and subtracting though it could be interesting.
Straight Line - The male principle; using them equally you get an equilateral triangle which can be place nicely in a circle (circle - female principle). Circles are an unbroken line with its beginning at its end and vice versa. Take the circle, a representation of spiritual illumination, and realise then that everything is linked. This is just as putting brackets around three linear principles.
Turn your 2 dimensional triangle featuring any dang thing you like at its three walls and add spiritual depth {NOT height}(3 dimensions). Then put it in a sphere so when all linear components reach their highest level of spiritual illumination their point meet.
Religion and Science and Philosophy don't fit the true equation, but hopefully u can see how mathematics over anything else rules but not as we think
Pyramids weren't built because the shape is nice (may have square base but still have triangle feature)
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check out this interesting site www.evilbible.com
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I love that site Chris420, one of my top 3 faves :). The forum is amazing. I'de honestly love to see just one christian from here manage over there lol.
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One question for the delusional nutjob Braddog though When did you ever "spank" Oneironaut besides never. (and yes I've read all the threads you just ignore what he says and twist his words and then claim victory...Much like any christian apologist I've ever seen). Geez man believe what you want but you've never not even once come close to "trouncing" him. Or , even a valid rebuttal...:p www.fallacyfiles.org learn debate....
Got to admit the evolution vs creation thread made me howl with laughter though, Only like 2 people in that whole thread realize they've got nothing to do with each other and try to point out abiogenesis and all the nutjobs ignore it...Ah facts , we dont need no stinking facts. Evolution is as much a fact as gravity. Or do you still believe "atoms" are atomies (little fairies)....click on the links from Evilbible in the evolution threads transitory fossils have been found by the hundreds. Try asking a paleontologist you can email them and generally speaking they'll respond by the end of the weak (royal ontario museum) or try Berkely(or any major scientific institute or university)in the science wing every professor has email they'll respond too usually by next day...But hey learning's for suckers right?
Even the late lamented pope realized it was fact geez man, when the church even agrees you gotta wonder at peoples motivations for denial.
Bah why do we bother , if someones willing to ignore all the bad crap in the bible and still proselytize meh , ignorance/faith=bliss I guess.
I urge all disbelievers in science to walk the walk , If your sick its gods will , dont go to the doctor after all he uses evolution in medical research....as bobby boucher's mom would say "It's the devil!"
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Way to Prove Christianity wrong
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Originally Posted by weirdo79
I love that site Chris420, one of my top 3 faves :). The forum is amazing. I'de honestly love to see just one christian from here manage over there lol.
I've read Her proofs,...They have no Legs.
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Way to Prove Christianity wrong
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Originally Posted by weirdo79
One question for the delusional nutjob Braddog though When did you ever "spank" Oneironaut besides never. (and yes I've read all the threads you just ignore what he says and twist his words and then claim victory...Much like any christian apologist I've ever seen). Geez man believe what you want but you've never not even once come close to "trouncing" him. Or , even a valid rebuttal...:p
www.fallacyfiles.org learn debate....
Got to admit the evolution vs creation thread made me howl with laughter though, Only like 2 people in that whole thread realize they've got nothing to do with each other and try to point out abiogenesis and all the nutjobs ignore it...Ah facts , we dont need no stinking facts. Evolution is as much a fact as gravity. Or do you still believe "atoms" are atomies (little fairies)....click on the links from Evilbible in the evolution threads transitory fossils have been found by the hundreds. Try asking a paleontologist you can email them and generally speaking they'll respond by the end of the weak (royal ontario museum) or try Berkely(or any major scientific institute or university)in the science wing every professor has email they'll respond too usually by next day...But hey learning's for suckers right?
Even the late lamented pope realized it was fact geez man, when the church even agrees you gotta wonder at peoples motivations for denial.
Bah why do we bother , if someones willing to ignore all the bad crap in the bible and still proselytize meh , ignorance/faith=bliss I guess.
I urge all disbelievers in science to walk the walk , If your sick its gods will , dont go to the doctor after all he uses evolution in medical research....as bobby boucher's mom would say "It's the devil!"
Look at the fruit of your. Honestly and tell your self your world is good. That you are happy and so is your wife. A broken down mess as you are. I have noticed primarily ......a bunch of brand new user names and all new reinforcements, Just like the cavalry, showing up right on time. Your just another one that someone has fished out of your own cesspool. I have wished everyone well..... prior to your post. It's hard to want to stay in the same room with people like you. How many times have you been divorced, or can you not even keep a dateing relationship? Looks like we won't have much time together. I hope you yield your wreck of a life to God before it's too late.
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Way to Prove Christianity wrong
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Originally Posted by braddog10
You moron, How many names do you have, All of a sudden these brand new sign ons are sings the Praises of the almighty. Come on this is 2 + 2, I studied Calculus out of the book, went to class for tests. What adolesence.
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. Moron is being nice. Manipulative is too. Well, thats what Satanist learn. Lets see, think I'll pass on the fruit today.
WeedGremblin, I wanted to appologize, I have been sucked in to alot of things that I don't want in my life. Unfortunately you were in the wake, I just wanted to express this before I leave, Thanks Dude I'm sorry. You seem like a very likable guy. Glancing up. I only saw the bottom sentence and hit qoute, another casualty....
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Way to Prove Christianity wrong
Aha ad hominem attacks , fallacies of logic braddog, Obviously you havent even read the site. Either fallacy or Evilbible. (pssst the person who wrote those is a phD holder in theology...she does know alot more than you).
Love the desperation in your voice as to divorce comments and "wreck" of a life. I'm actually quite happy thanks. Your anger says you see the holes in your religion but can't deal with em. You might want to check the date on my user name or do a search for my past posts if you think im "new"....Idiot....You havent once actually used a rebuttal in regards to anything oneiron or now me(or anyone else) have said. Try it sometime.
Why wouldnt we have much time? You think the end times are nigh like 1000's before you (oops we misinterpreted the date! its next century!)
Notice how you avoid every logical point put before you. I'de feel pity but those that wallow in ignorance arent worth anyones pity. They dig their own hole.
Ad hominem's in the face of cold hard facts just says "my faith is shaken and im desperately clinging to anything I can...." your posts in the evolution thread show your ignorance on the topic yet you continue. You amuse me to no end. Keep it up laughter is the best medicine.
(pssst I know logic is very very hard for you but try reading your join date vs mine....YOUR the new guy math whiz....)
Just keep ignoring the pope.....
