September 11, 2001 "Insider's Job"... Bush's own staff admit it was a inside job!!!

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Originally Posted by xblackdogx

^^ where's the basis for those statements...
i would love to believe that,
but i've seen the facts
unless you've got some fresh ones for me

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If you have facts that 9/11 is a conspiracy then why are you spending your time complaining about Bush on a message board when you could be getting his ass impeached. Everyone loves buying into 9/11 conspiracy shit. Especialy a stoner message board. We all like to burn a bowl and think about how the government secretly fucks us over. Just like some people believe Kennedy is a vegetable in South America and we never landed on the moon.

But back to the subject, I would love to hear your "facts" besides these stupid videos people make just to spark debate. And that Reynolds guy is obviously doing this for the money. He is laughing his way to the bank on this. Honestly people it is not hard to make up these conspiracy theories. Just because he was up there in the administration makes people believe him more. Why don't more of those people come out and join him?

How about the fact that top PENTAGON OFFICIALS were warn the night B4 911 not to fly the next day----LIHOP
Inside trading "put option"-----MIHOP
WarGames on 911 where hijack planes were used as a weapon, into buildings----MIHOP

How about the FACT they lied about not knowing of an imminent attack was about to occur, THEY LIED and ignored all warnings.

Im sorry if im not playing right you know democrat republican sometimes you win some sometime you lose some but this is serious this is not about party lines this is about america and its people and to get the truth out..

The Secret Service at Booker Elementary:
The Dog That Did Not Bark

Hijacked aircraft were wandering across the eastern half of the country. In theory no-one could have known how many planes had been hijacked. Two planes had crashed into the World Trade Center, Bush was at a publicised photo opportunity at Booker Elementary School, and there is an airport only four miles from this School.

The Sarasota Herald Tribune announced Bush's visit to Booker Elementary on September 8th, giving the 9-11 planners three days to include Bush as a target for a diving jetliner. Nobody could have safely assumed he was not a target.

The Booker Elementary video shows the Secret Service did not rush in to remove the President to a secure location, or at least to the safety of the armored Presidential Limousine. That's their job. That's what they do in the case of a real surprise attack withmany unknowns. They don't do anything else.

But the Secret Service did nothing. The dog did not bark.

Bush defenders try to explain Bush's inaction as his not wanting to upset the children. Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9-11" suggests Bush's inaction was due to his not being told to leave. But Michael Moore fails to follow that line of reasoning through to its logical conclusion; where were the people whose job it is to get the President to a place of safety in event of attack, the people who would have, SHOULD have, pulled Bush out of there, children and public appearances be damned!

The Secret Service did nothing. The dog did not bark.

If the events of 9-11 were truly a surprise to the United States Government then there is no way the Secret Service could have known there wasn't a hijacked or stolen plane heading towards Booker Elementary School that very second.

The Secret Service did nothing. The dog did not bark.

The Secret Service should be in that video, but they are not. It is clear from their inaction that they KNEW FOR A FACT THAT THE PRESIDENT WAS NOT A TARGET OF ONE OF THE HIJACKED PLANES. The intended targets of the planes had to have been known.

The dog did not bark because the criminal was its master.

Quod Erat Demonstradum, the Bush administration was part of the 9-11 plot.

Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9-11"

DUDE!!! LOL..................

Michael who? are you talking about this line here psycho, come on dude im no kid so quit...

Bush defenders try to explain Bush's inaction as his not wanting to upset the children. Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9-11" suggests Bush's inaction was due to his not being told to leave. But Michael Moore fails to follow that line of reasoning through to its logical conclusion; where were the people whose job it is to get the President to a place of safety in event of attack, the people who would have, SHOULD have, pulled Bush out of there, children and public appearances be damned!

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Originally Posted by eg420ne

Michael who? are you talking about this line here psycho, come on dude im no kid so quit...

Bush defenders try to explain Bush's inaction as his not wanting to upset the children. Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9-11" suggests Bush's inaction was due to his not being told to leave. But Michael Moore fails to follow that line of reasoning through to its logical conclusion; where were the people whose job it is to get the President to a place of safety in event of attack, the people who would have, SHOULD have, pulled Bush out of there, children and public appearances be damned!

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LOL....sorry dude. Whenever I see his name I just gimp!!! Can't help it.....

Do you know how hard it is for a terrorist to hijack a plane and fly it directly into some random ass elementary school in Florida. Impossible for them to target that and hit it with a hijacked 747 plane. The President was very safe there especialy when you think about al the confusion going on that day.

Ok the fact that they did NOTHING in other word INACTION means alot cjh3387...dosnt matter if they tought it was safe or not gwad damn planes were hijack and no1 knew were the fuk they were at

And dude if they can fly a plane into the PENTAGON:rolleyes: what makes you think it be harder for them to fly one into a school---CHEESENRICE-- they had time like 3 days to think of a plan and figure out were the school was

I think a Presidential motorcade would be easier to spot.:twocents:

LIke JFK

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Originally Posted by cjh3387

If you have facts that 9/11 is a conspiracy then why are you spending your time complaining about Bush on a message board when you could be getting his ass impeached. Everyone loves buying into 9/11 conspiracy shit. Especialy a stoner message board. We all like to burn a bowl and think about how the government secretly fucks us over. Just like some people believe Kennedy is a vegetable in South America and we never landed on the moon.

But back to the subject, I would love to hear your "facts" besides these stupid videos people make just to spark debate. And that Reynolds guy is obviously doing this for the money. He is laughing his way to the bank on this. Honestly people it is not hard to make up these conspiracy theories. Just because he was up there in the administration makes people believe him more. Why don't more of those people come out and join him?

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some photos..
match up the crime scene w/ the 9/11 Commission Report [what "happened"] and it doesnt make sense

we all have posts on here saying exactly why the FACTS dont match up w/ the story... go search it
1. y didn't F16s go after all the aircrafts [American nd United Airlines declared them hijacked 4-5 min after they were offcourse, then another 45 min goes by and the targets are hit]
2. the strange damages in the Pentagon
3. the insider trading evidence [purchasing of put options-bet a company will lose money] was never investigated, which the FBI do track
4. if it is possible for a building to collapse that fast [8-9s] only burning for 50-70 min. without explosives/thermite
5. WTC 7 collapse not being mentioned, or publicly explained completely
6. not being able to confirm the time some hijackers checked in [in notes of 9/11 comission report] - yet the airlines should have that info in the computer!
7. i can go on, and on... your turn, see what you've got backing up those silly fingers:thumbsup:

it's not hard to cover something up when you have BILLIONS upon billions of dollars, it's not hard to hire someone who can blend into a crowd and plant a bomb unnoticed, it's not hard at all, all it takes is a hefty sum of money.

while i remain mostly neutral on this untill more evidence is available, i am tempted to believe that it is a conspiracy. i dont know why just yet, but i would assume it has a lot to do with oil.


observe our situation enough with a completely non opiniated stance and you'll see more truth and filter more lies.

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Originally Posted by Stoner Shadow Wolf

observe our situation enough with a completely non opiniated stance and you'll see more truth and filter more lies.

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yes, i too can only state so much, there is defintely a need for more evidence,
but it's so hard b/c they won't release jack shit

If the president was at the WhiteHouse he would of be moved. If the president was at the Mall Of America he would of been moved.
But our president was at a school filled with kids and was not moved just sat there looking like a bump on a log or shall i say a bump on a mirror..It Is the InAction Of KingGeorge and his SS that makes me yell treason..I bet they all felt safe knowing they were the terrorist..

eg, calm down a bit... it DOES seem logical to me that in such events when the president was in a less than likely to be known location to terrorists that he would be left be. YES, the inaction DOES speak volumes of POSSIBILITIES, but it's all speculation right now, you're throwing bricks at the wall. wait untill more compelling evidence arises before you go storming off on the inactions. we get your point, and if we dont, we gotta be retarded.

Ok as long as you know that i know that the government is criminal.. at least AT LEAST our government knew a terrorist attack was about to occur and then lied about knowing about it and ignored all warnings, that right there is treason another INACTION

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Originally Posted by eg420ne

If the president was at the WhiteHouse he would of be moved. If the president was at the Mall Of America he would of been moved.
But our president was at a school filled with kids and was not moved just sat there looking like a bump on a log or shall i say a bump on a mirror..It Is the InAction Of KingGeorge and his SS that makes me yell treason..I bet they all felt safe knowing they were the terrorist..

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what you claim- the "inaction" of the security procedures during the tapes of GW is- is one major talking point of any Congress, ex-CIA person questioning 9/11, it is a big give away according to them

I try to stay as open-minded about these situations as possible, but when there's more evidence it was set-up then it was actually terrorists, it's hard to believe.

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Originally Posted by xblackdogx

yes, i too can only state so much, there is defintely a need for more evidence,
but it's so hard b/c they won't release jack shit

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I agree as well.. I have no Idea who was behind it and who did what... but I am sure that explosives were used to make all three WTC buildings fall. I saw Loose Change first, and then went to Alex Jones stuff and must say it could be as wrong as Bush is about terrorists with box cutters. Both seem equally insane to me, but after watching the 2 hour lecture and then the Eye Witness video, I 100% believe that explosives were used. How they got there, who put them there... I still don't know. But all I can say is I don't see how you could watch these two videos and not think explosives were somehow involved...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...61603&q=9%2F11

http://filmstripinternational.com/fi...lmstrip=jones2

that shit is just sick no matter how it happened or why.

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Originally Posted by Gumby

I have no Idea who was behind it and who did what... but I am sure that explosives were used to make all three WTC buildings fall. I saw Loose Change first, and then went to Alex Jones stuff and must say it could be as wrong as Bush is about terrorists with box cutters. Both seem equally insane to me, but after watching the 2 hour lecture and then the Eye Witness video, I 100% believe that explosives were used.

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If you've ever seen footage of a building imploded with explosives, the collapse of the 3 WTC buildings were exactly the same.

I don't know who did it or why they did it, but I just know that it wasn't done to increase freedom in this country. Just read the newspaper. We are sounding more like the former Soviet Union every day: Secret Police, warrantless searches, authorized torture, people being jailed without due process, public surveillance through the use of video cameras, data mining, wiretapping, religious persecution, the list goes on and on.

I know. I was in East Germany before the Wall came down (just visiting, thank God).

It takes WEEKS to plant the C4 to demolish a building... The towers were populated 24/7 yet no one saw the planting of said explosive. The buildings were so massive that it would have taken a two man crew months to do so, and who the fuck isn't going to see a guy walking around with plastic explosive in your office. Pentagon inside job? Maybe. But the towers were brought down by planes.

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Originally Posted by Hunternora

It takes WEEKS to plant the C4 to demolish a building... The towers were populated 24/7 yet no one saw the planting of said explosive. The buildings were so massive that it would have taken a two man crew months to do so, and who the fuck isn't going to see a guy walking around with plastic explosive in your office. Pentagon inside job? Maybe. But the towers were brought down by planes.

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since you havent divulged that deeply in the statements released
by those close to this incident:
there were periods right b4 the towers collapsed,
which they shut down groups of floors at a time [ie. 30-40]. covering most of the building
the reason was "maintenance purposes", supposedly to do w/
upgrading bandwidth-which would mean going into the walls

one guy was fixing his companies computers after ^^ this maintenance b/c
ALL THE ELECTRICITY WAS SHUT OFF, including security cameras,
so he spent days fixing it so that company get get on track, finishes Sept 10th,
next day comes along, it's his break day, and what does he see?

those w/ statements, and have worked in the WTC for awhile,
said it was a very unusual closing of the floors

wtc 1 and 2 had security and surveillance shutdowns and more than usual evacuation drills in the weeks prior...that's not even important though, there's much stronger evidence pointing to inside job...as opposed to 19 freedom hating hijackers who weren't the radical fundamentalist muslims we were led to believe they were, and who didn't know how to fly.

Many convincing arguements for an inside job have been posted here.

In the video when the closer tower goes down, I saw a few explosions occur on the lower floors. Is that just me?

no watch the 9/11 eyewitness video... it slows it down and gets the sound in the back ground as well.. it zooms in on the smaller explosions and shows the choppers that flew over and set them off...

What I want to know is why do so many people take time to think of how the offical story maked sense yet won't take 20 minutes to look at information that shows them what they asked... not you minnesota, but Hunter...

I mean there is a ton of information out there about the closing off of the WTC and even the removal of bomb sniffing dogs...It scares me that people are willing to defend something they are not sure about and will defend it without looking into any further information about what happened... I mean in my signature there is over 5 hours of video with all the information andone could need about the Sept 11th attacks... yet people will spend hours and hours picking apart the consiracy theort rather than find information to defnd their beliefs...

"Liberals love osama Bin Laden"

Lol, sometimes conservaties DO hit the nail on the head. While of course I think 9-11 was an inside job, let's not go too far off the crazy-train here guys and forget that Islamic fundamentalism does exist in today's world. Like it or not, all the evidence points to it playing a major, major role in 9-11.

To sum it up, I agree with all of you up 'till the point where you exclude Islamic terrorism from being a reality in the world today. Because it's out there, and it's what fuels this corrupt administration to do the things it does every day as it's scapegoat.

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Originally Posted by minnesota man

Many convincing arguements for an inside job have been posted here.

In the video when the closer tower goes down, I saw a few explosions occur on the lower floors. Is that just me?

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No, it isn't just you. When the 2nd tower goes down (on the Eyewitness Video), I think I can actually see tiny explosions that coincide with the muffled "boom" sounds...

But being the skeptic (though not necessarily the most intelligent one) that I am, some things that I'm wondering:

-I know next to nothing re: explosives and stuff like that...IF the gov't really wanted to bring down the towers with explosives, would they really need choppers to set it off? I dunno....in this age of tech, I'd thought that they'd be able to do this from a more remote distance.

-And speaking of choppers...Is the video implying that ALL of those helicopters were flying over the towers just to detonate the explosives? I thought there were some eyewitness accounts of people saying that they were looking at the police choppers flying over and NOT rescuing people. Also, I think "Loose Change" provided some close-up footage of the towers shortly after the plane crashed into it...Wasn't that shot from news choppers?

-And one more thing that I'm wondering...If the gov't really wanted to do this, what is the point of having the planes crash into the tower and THEN use the explosives? Why not simply just use the explosives and then create the story the hijackers had planted bombs....instead of using explosives in the basement (as the theory goes) and hope that clean-up workers don't find the mystery "hot spots of molten steel"? See what I'm saying? Why use the planes?

I'll finish watching the 2nd half of "Eyewitness" later. Very interesting though, thanks for the link.

Planes make it all seem plausible... think about how impossible it would be to say terrorists rigged 3 buildings with explosives... let alone 2 of the biggest buildings in the US. That would take days of set-up inside the WTC which would obviously be noticed, and they would have to be EXPERT demolition men to make it collapse as perfectly as it did. By running planes into the target, it makes the puzzle pieces fit together. At least that's what they want us to believe. Yesterday a Marine was at my cousins house for mother's day and I told him all about the information I have read up on and he said it wouldn't surprise him if it was set-up, governments have been doing it since the beginning of time. He also posed this question too me... "There are a lot of places in this world FAR more dangerous and an immediate risk then Iraq ever was, do you think we'd really be there if they didn't have oil?".

^^ yes
Russ Feingold had a speech a few days ago saying how there are
places around the world with an immediate need for help involving OUR national security
one i know he mentioned:
some provinces in Indonesia have various Muslim groups
the gov't in these areas treat these groups horribly
this has been going on for years, and will basically force these
islamic groups to become extremist: as no other countries are forcing Indonesia to treat EVERYONE EQUALLY
these islamic groups will NOT ONLY backlash on the Indonesian Gov't
but also to other countries around the world [including the USA] b/c of the known tension b/w western style countries and fundamental islamic groups

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Originally Posted by xblackdogx

^^ yes
Russ Feingold had a speech a few days ago saying how there are
places around the world with an immediate need for help involving OUR national security
one i know he mentioned:
some provinces in Indonesia have various Muslim groups
the gov't in these areas treat these groups horribly
this has been going on for years, and will basically force these
islamic groups to become extremist: as no other countries are forcing Indonesia to treat EVERYONE EQUALLY
these islamic groups will NOT ONLY backlash on the Indonesian Gov't
but also to other countries around the world [including the USA] b/c of the known tension b/w western style countries and fundamental islamic groups

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Australia has had problems with these factions for a while now:



Noordin Top infatuated with al-Qaeda
Radical Islamic terrorist Noordin Top was "infatuated" with al-Qaeda and has modelled himself on its leaders as he plots more attacks in Asia, a report has said.

Noordin is blamed in part for both the 2002 and 2005 Bali bombings as well as the 2004 attack on Australia's Jakarta embassy.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/World/...335953205.html

Oh, one other bit of evidence that is very suspicous... AFTER 9/11 happened, Osama Bin Laden supposedly released a tape fessing up too it right? Look at the video tape and you'll realize the guy in the video has a fairly large, round nose, with large cheek bones. Osama Bin Laden has a tall, narrow face with a long skinny nose... the two guys are obviously not the same person, yet they still say that's Osama fessing up to it?

P.S. - For those of you that didn't know already, Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein hate eachother, theres no link between them :thumbsup:

there are also all the other videos that Osama has released... with only the latest being the first to say anything about the american people...

ps... for those of you who really don't know, there were no connections between 9/11 and Iraq... there were no reasons to go in there in the first place... it is a war on Islam and Bush has made that quite clear from the begining. Watch Kingdom of Heaven... good movie... funny how ironic it is that the war is still going on 1,000 years later... but God loves to bomb people right?? God bless the USA, kill more than you love... that's god message right??

If Bush really is Christian, he'll be going straight to hell, that's a fact.

I was hoping the pictures the Pentagon released would actually prove something, i didn't realize they were the same ones already leaked out years ago. By "officially" releasing those, they actually dug themselves a deeper hole! If you look at the slides, you'll notice a white smoke trail behind whatever is hitting it right? Jet planes, no matter how big or small, don't leave behind trails unless they're above a couple thousand feet, no matter how fast or slow they're going. Only in the upper atmosphere do you see trails behing planes..... BUT... missiles can leave trails in the lower atmosphere. Interesting, isn't it?

Inside job all the way to the bank, and anyone who support these commie bastards needs to get their head out of their ass......