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See how the machine works? The bullshit is already spreading...Quote:
Originally Posted by acrca
I've heard so much shit about people going crazy and killing themselves on Salvia so I'm never gonna try it, I'll just stick with Acid!2211
It's all been said and done before with Acid, for christ sakes... (BTW, this isn't directed at you acrca)
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Secondly, if you DON'T think that as soon as they make salvia illegal that hundreds of news agencies will jump on that issue and make it even more popular, causing kids to want to try this new "mystery drug", then someone else is the fucking retard here. I'm not saying the new fad will last a while, I'm saying it'll last for a few weeks or months while kids try to grab hold of any remnants they can.QUOTE]
It's obviously going to get popular anyways, I assure you that this is going to be a big topic in the near future. so how is making the plant illigal going to boost the people who try it...their going to anyways as soon as they hear about it. wether its' being illigal or cause its' growing in popularity anyways as we speak.
popular on cannabis.com, sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by rollinkansas
popular to people who smoke weed, sure.
popular to the majority of people who watch geraldo rivera, because you know it's going to be his ass showing biased information, not likely.
Wow this is amazing how its everywhere. I worked with this kid and he was actually kind of close to me. It sucks, because I used to smoke with him. But he started to slowly change. Like when we were walking around my town he would just stop and look at things and just have this wierd look on his face. Then 4 days later he commited suicide. I still cant believe it. R.i.P man, I'll never forget you..
Well... that sounds like Everquest to me. Remember people killin themselfs over that shit? I know salvia can be scary at times, but trust me... its nothing more then a trip. Some people must just take what they see to literaly.. I remember the first time one of my friends did it, he was scared shitless, telling us to not let "them" take him away again. Like his entire reality was fake and this new salvia trip reality was the only thing that ever existed as he explains.
Its just a trip! People, don't take these things to heart! And certainly don't kill yourself because you had a jacked up trip. I'v smoked salvia PLENTY of times and im exactualy the same... I dont look at shit weird and think I unlocked the secrete of the universe because I was sucked into another relm. This is the reason salvia will soon be illegal...
Its not even an hour long, its more like 5 minutes. The peak goes away incredibly fast and you feel kinda stoned afterward, but only kinda. I have 0% clue as to why someone would kill themselfs after a salvia trip. Like I said, done 10x and 20x extract plenty of times and not once thought "im gonna kill myself". Yeah, its one hell of a trip but doesn't last long at all. I think it may be the intensity that catches people by suprise, and its also VERY diffrent then anything I have ever tried. But still... People, have controle over your mind!Quote:
Originally Posted by thewanderer
I love salvia but its not something that you get "high" off of its something you do during meditation and to look inside yourself and is just like any other drug you have to be in a relaxed mood to do it or its going to be bad
Salvia is some crazy shit, that 20X plus. It should be made illegal, because these headshops and sales people taxing $65 for one gram of it is ridiculous. Ban the shit out of it and then it will be much more reasonably priced. How do we know that kid didnt have some pre existing medical condition which really was the underlying cause? we dont.
dude rollinkansas ur dumb. and so is that kid who killed himself. its a fucking drug. of course its a mindfuck. goddamn people.
Yeah about Salvia? Never really heard any 1 I know talk of trying this drug ? They say its legal , thats why that 17 yr old tried it that died.....? wtf? You mean that is legal and pot isnt? Country is really fucked up, some1 please give me some info on Salvia, I have a 17 yr old son, and I really hope he isnt stupid enough to be experimenting with this shit , because it is LEGAL ????!!!!jesus --- what next??Quote:
Originally Posted by rollinKansas
salvia isnt really dangerous if you just use it the right way...you will have some hardcore visions but its not something to use to get fucked up...and the effects only last 5 or 10 min at the most...its not leathal its just some dumbass kid killed himself after saying he knew the meaning of life... the kid probably had a problem before he smoked it...its just like any other hallucigenic...you should always have a sitter with you...the kid in question probably wanted to die (not saying that is what it was) and just did it after smoking just to have an exuse to do so
None of them should be illegal.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiskeyGirl
Pot didn't kill nobody... Acid didn't kill nobody... and Salvia didn't kill nobody.
Actually, the one time that I smoked WAAY too much pot that was very potent, I (it wasn't laced) saw (not literally, but in my mind) my whole life flash by. I saw images in my mind that I used to see in my mind as a child, images that I hadn't remembered in a long ass time. I thought I knew the meaning of MY life, and how all we have are our memories, and heavily contemplated suicide (I wasn't depressed or anything, I thought that there was no reason to live, now that I know the meaning, I (at the time) realised that there is no point for me to go on, it would just be a waste of everybodys time, and more bullshit to put myeslf through, when in the long run, it would just be a memory of mine). I wasn't really going to kill myself, but I thought it would be almost peaceful to commit suicide. It wasn't that I didn't love my life, or didn't want to live... it was just that I realised there was really no point in it. Like I said, I was only thinking about it, but I kept reminding myself that it was the drug making me think that. Luckily I'm still alive. However, while I haven't tried salvia, and have no intentions of every trying it, I can kind of relate to how the kid must have felt, thinking there was no reason to go on living, now that he knew the point, and it's very hard to explain.
guys think about it seriously...
what if he DID know the secret to life? and it was too crazy for him and so he just gunned himself down cause he knows now that jesus aint real.. and so on
CHRIKEY
I highly doubt the secrets of life -- IT'S very meaning -- was revealed to a Delaware boy.
This drug is spelled too much like SALIVA YUK!!!!!!!!!!!!
TURN OFF!!
lol what the hell are you talking about?:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiskeyGirl
YOU KNOW , THE gross stuff that comes out of your mouth, when you spit LOL. what do you mean what am I talking about ? Until I heard about this so - called drug, thats the only Sa l i v a I know LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by singingbowl420
L8ER
Must be the generation Gap!!
Jesus, what a waste of air.
lol oh I feel dumb now saliva salvia ....dont mind me Im just high....
I'm not for sure but I think this is old news. I dont really care much for the kid or the drug because it's pretty just..dumb. If you let a drug lead you to the point in your life to where you think it's pointless and decide to take your own life your insane. And theres been more bad trips reported with salvia than good so why keep doin it? I think this drug should be banned and thought of as bad as PCP is thought of..Just because salvia is more of a novice drug doesnt mean it's safe.. that just means that there hasnt even been enough time to put into a deep research into the shit. No offence to you salvia abusers out there :D.
Btw what does salvia smell like when it's being burned?
Tea... when you smoke it... you can kind of taste and smell it... and feel it, inside... it's different!1
As I see it, salvia will intensify and alter whatever is in your head. This kid was dealing with depression and undoubtedly suicidal thoughts. Take salvia, innevitably it accentuated the mindstate he was already in and intensified it, as pretty much any hallucinogen will do. Even on a much tamer level, my sister (who deals with depression) won't smoke weed, not because she's against it but because it makes her depressed as hell. I think we should spend a lot less time legislating how we're going to punish people for controlling their own consciousness, and start educating people about the dangers of certain drugs when you have a mental disorder, as well as how to responsibly use each type of drug.
Fucking creepy.Quote:
Originally Posted by orangeman
Seriously, the smell freaks me out - it smells evil! Very hard to describe, kinda mossy and creepy.......
it smells really weird you cant describe it like stale resin in a way its disgusting! lolQuote:
Originally Posted by orangeman
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Originally Posted by Kush Over
So he'd have to be older and in a more well known area of America to be considered? :confused:
No.
They'd have to be someone without a suspected prior mental condition to taking a fucking hallucinogen to be considered.
For god sakes, keep in mind is the kid was using acne medication that his mom was suspecting was putting him into his depressed state.
Once again, legal prescription drugs take their toll.
So many people get drunk and kill themselves everyday.
Is alcohol banned?
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I thought it smelled and tasted just like smoking green tea, which I tried once just for the hell of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by cannabis campbell
i enjoy it. i find it fun. of course im not a dumbass little kid who thinks the secrets of life are in a hallucinogen
and you are fucking retarded, having a weak mind/body chemistry does have to do with it. some people can't handle LSD, some people can't even handle marijuana. some people believe everything they see/hear/read/whatever. if he believed the secrets of life were in there..its HIS OWN GOD DAMN FAULT. its all in the person. NO ONE forced him to do the salvia, its his own damn fault that he couldn't tell reality from a plant.
ive done salvia 20x many times. I find it quite enjoyable, and only had a bad trip my first time because I didn't know what to expect. Now I do it every couple weeks. its not the salvias fault.
once agai we all got off of the subject...
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Originally Posted by rollinKansas
ive yet to meet a person that won't smoke cannabis based ONLY on the fact that its illeagle. and yes people with weak minds should not do salvia because it will scare the SHIT out of them. its a drug for people who are experienced with psychedelics and are very mentally stable. if your not either of those, it will most likely scare the shit of them. salvia shouldnt be illeage, idiots should be educated.
Hahaha, it does smell strange. Like shrooms smell strange... it all smells psychedelic, to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by SensiRide
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Originally Posted by rollinKansas
The point was, you cant judge something as a whole from an isolated incident. He was basically saying if you were to take one incident and connect it to everything as whole based off that incident, then nobody would drink anymore, or drive cars for that matter. Because one guy had an accident, ran off the road and killed himself, I guess that means everyone that gets behind the wheel, is just meant to die, just like he did.LOL, if that were true, then there would be alot more dead people in the world. I guess since there alcoholics, nobody should ever drink a beer again cause we will all become alcoholics.
Next time be smart enough to realize when someone is being sarcastic.
peace...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XS1d...&search=Salvia
This is one of the funniest Salvia videos I've seen.
It's probably just new propoganda. I bet they in like 10 years will have Salvia with all this bull info saying it will do all these bad things... like reefer madness
is salvia a depressant? or downer?
I doubt that they gonna ban Sally. After all - isn't it a type of Sage? Isn't sage a type of herb used for the enhancement of flavours and smells in food? Why stop there? Why not just ban food? Seriously - Nutmeg highs are shitty and ineffective - and they can kill. So why not ban nutmeg? Why not ban all condiments? Food kills ppl 2, right? Ppl commit suicide over being fat, which is a direct result of overeating, right? So yeah - LETS BAN FOOD!!!!
The fact is there will always be idiots in this world and these idiots are going to ruin it for the rest of us. So yes, thank you idiots - next you'll want to make air illegal too. Ever had an oxygen rush? Yeah they really f**k your mind up!
i have never done salvia before and recently i have been considering it because i hear it "opens your mind" and all that shit but one of my buddies told me if you smoke a strong enough extract, like 80 or 100x, a portal will open up that you can actually step through into another dimension. when i heard him say this to me i didnt really believe it but i went along with it because i have never experienced salvia and therefore cannot vouch for it, so anyone wanna help me out a little?
From my not so extensive knowledge of salvia they dont sell 100x and i dont think ive ever seen 80x.