yup, they can.
and what proof would that black student have on saying he doesn't deserve?, all the teacher would have to say is that he was a trouble maker or some made up lie to get outta trouble
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yup, they can.
and what proof would that black student have on saying he doesn't deserve?, all the teacher would have to say is that he was a trouble maker or some made up lie to get outta trouble
stop trying to defend him. he made a mistake and he's paying for it. that being said, sucks that it happened, but don't bring your shit to school
How old are you, 13? You honestly think that a teacher has the right to give a black student an F simply because he's black? You have a lot to learn, and I suggest you stop giving childish advise that is pure nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fabolous
man you have no idea of what i seen and have been done to, my friend is a prefect example. 99% of his papers here either B's or B+, never really argued with anyone not even the teach, and even got a exam that was graded 82%, and final grade was a D- on the report card.
he ask if it was a mistake. and teacher said they it was no mistake, and the parents came up, bla bla bla. ended up taken to court and shit, and lost
Another one was when my mom saw a teacher abusing a child and reported her to the school, and in the end the teacher was let off freely (Like nothing happen) and my mom was banned from my little brothers school
so i suggest you shut the fuck up, becase you have no idea what you are talkin about
That has nothing to do with what originally stated. You stated that the law doesn't imply to the inside of schools. So people are free to murder, rape and rob in schools, because, according to you, there is no law inside of schools.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fabolous
MAN LOOK AT THE FACTS, your basically a prisoner in the schools. i suggest you take a closer look inside the schoolsQuote:
Originally Posted by tadaa
Tadaa, I'm curious as to what you're argument is at this point I cannot even remember. As far as the law goes in school, the law does exist, but honestly most high schools are more of a dictatorship in principle. There are certain by-laws that every school gets around, which allows them to search bags or lockers without consent. All they need is the slightest indication that you may be doing something wrong or illegal, which can either be truthful or made up. Either way, how are you going to prove that a teacher is lying? Faculty have all the right to search student's b/c you are on school property, where the administration makes the rules.
my guess is there is more that you havent told us. clearly they had reason to suspect you were smoking, or did they just pick your shit out at random. you brought a pipe to school, that was your dumbass fault. courts will take the words of a teacher over a teenage stoner any day. and they wont take pity on you for getting high/bringing your shit to school. like i said it was your dumbass fault. i hope you get expelled. there needs to be an example made so you fucking idiots STOP BRINGING YOUR SHIT TO SCHOOL:thumbsup:
Thank you, you basically proved me right (In a different way, but none the less it shows that i was right :dance: )Quote:
Originally Posted by Its a Plant
Tadaa- the school takes over as a temporary parent when ur in it. There have been a couple supreme court cases involving a search and seasure without the consent of a girl that they searched. They searched her purse by the way...the court ruled in favor of the school.
Look at the cases and what a law enforcement officer says...he may not know all the laws but he knows enough about hte rules to tell u the truth.
And not every cop is a fucking asshole to you...if ur nice to a school one or just go up and actually TALK to a cop and be polite he will pretty much tell u anything u need to know. But if u dont believe anyone else but what u think actually go look at some of the supreme court cases related to this subject...the school can search who ever and what ever they want as long as its on there property.
how about you tell us why they might have wanted to search your bags in the first place, then maybe ill feel sorry for you, shitstain
Although TADAA is being a bit of an asshole about it he has a valid point. Talk to a lawyer. They won't charge you anything if you call the lawyer up and talk to them. Tell them what happened and everything even if you did something you shouldn't have tell them. There may have been something that was done that could ruin they're case against you. It's free you have nothing to lose.
But Fabolous does have a point schools can do pretty much anythign they want. It's fucked up but there's not much you can do about it.
Captain Hanky there is more to the story I am almost 100% sure of it. Teachers just don't search a bookbag at random with no reason. It must have smelled like weed or someone must have told her.
suspicion was the only evidence based on rumors of students, but i never smoked on campus, not even in the city my campus is located
*New Jersey v T.L.O. (1984)
Two students were found smoking in the girls bathroom. One student confessed but the other, T.L.O. (her initials), denied smoking. In fact, T.L.O. claimed she did not smoke at all. The school Assistant Principal then proceeded to search T.L.O.'s purse. In the purse he found Marijuana in small bags, rolling paper, a large amount of cash and a list of names who owed T.L.O. money. The police were summoned and T.L.O. was arrested. T.L.O. was convicted and through the appeals process the case eventually went to the Supreme Court. T.L.O. claimed that the search of her purse violated her Constitutional rights.
The Court ruled against T.L.O. setting new standards for school officials. The Court ruled that school officials may search a student under "reasonable suspicion." The standard is less than that required of police therefore giving school officials much broader search powers under the fourth amendment.
Keep in mind there are probably plenty of cases in which the judge ruled against the school, it goes both ways. My point is that when it comes to the law, the school is going to try and dictate their own law, unless you do something about it. If you want to be blindly taken advantage of then take the schools word, if you want to know whether they are right or wrong get a lawyer, stand up for yourself man.Quote:
Originally Posted by rico8908
that's how it all starts,(with me it did) Rumors where going around because i had the best shit in a rich ass school full of beginner pot heads (so i could say it was Above Mid's but really swagg) and well sooner then you know you got teachers over hearing kids and taken you into there office :rolleyes: lucky for me i had a great spot to hid my shit, my gym locker :dance:
but yea it's always great thing to not go around telling people they you may have just made friends with, and not 100% sure he isn't gonna tell other people that you smoke.
I hardly think any respectable school will try and "blindly" take advantage of students. There would have been tons of complaints if the school was unfairly doing something like searching their own property. They make it extremely clear in the handbook what the law is, and what happens if one breaks it. Calling a lawyer is good, yes, but not to try and fight a losing cause. Give it up and quit using that as your argument.
To stay in school, you may have to swollow your pride big time and volunteer to do some kind of rehab.
You have to be upfront about what has happened.
Don't even try to go the route of "I was holding it for somebody" "it's not mine" etc....etc....
It's really up to you how important your education is.
You can be well off in a nice house, able to vacation one day OR you can end up in a rooming house scraping up enough $$ for oodles of noodles.
your choice.
i doubt the court has ruled inn favor of the kids many times, i doubt its gone to court many times, im assuming the parents are normally pissed off at the kid about it and unless they were aware it was going on they wouldnt get you a lawyer and wouldnt let you take it to court
its a plant is right, the law states it in the handbook and it was stupid on my part... but is there anything i should bring up tomorrow in my meeting? other than "kissing ass" (no brainer)
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Originally Posted by Captain Hanks
Yeah, I have advice. Read my post up there.
I wish you luck tomorrow.
::::thinking again.....why O why are kids still taking their shit to school??::::::::confused:
Just be totally passive and calm, only speak when spoken to, and be open to any ideas trying to fix this as neatly as possible. Good luck :thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by tadaa
Can you cite some sources? Schools search all the time, and their right to do so has been upheld in every single court case in the last 50 years. sorry.
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Originally Posted by tadaa
DUDE: IT'S LEGAL. A lawyer won't help, it will only piss them off.
Ass-kissing is the only way.
allright, im gonna get some rest for tomorrow. ill let you guys know how it goes, thanks for the advice
Tadaa thinks that these schools are these perfect places, where nothing bad goes on, and no teacher could ever doing anything wrong.
Now Tadaa lets go back to reality.........
Ahh that sucks... But is paraphinalia illegal too in America? In Enlang seeds are legal, bongs, pipes, bubblers... nothing is illegal apart from the drug itself.
it isnt exactly illegal but if it has weed resin in it at all it becomes illegal, any pipe or tobacco product would definitely not be allowed at any school, and glass pipes arent illegal but they are kind of regulated, like if i had a glass piece in my car even if it was unused i wouldnt want a cop to see it
I bring my shit to school every day. never get caught because i have numerous stash places.Quote:
Originally Posted by tootsie roll
DONT KEEP YOUR SHIT IN YOUR BACKPACK OR LOCKER!!
just go find an empty locker and sling a lock on it
none of these kids has explained WHY they take shit to school. my theory is that they do it to seem cool. i honestly cant think of any other reason. getting high at school is a pointless waste of weed anyway.
It's funny how you ask me to cite sources then you spout off about how every single court decision has gone in the schools favor with nothing to back it up. I was involved in a similar situation in highschool concerning myself and a friend, and my situation was never taken to court because we both got a lawyer involved and it turns out that in my state it was illegal for the school to do what they did. If we would have taken the schools word for it we would have been fucked over.Quote:
Originally Posted by OatWillies420
Are you fucking dumb? I've been saying the EXACT OPPOSITE this entire thread. Honestly, you have to be mentally retarded to post what you just did. I've been saying this entire thread how schools will take advantage of students all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fabolous
I mean look how stupid most of the people in this thread are. This kids in a situation with the law that could screw up his entire life and everyone is telling him to NOT contact a lawyer, good call:rolleyes:
i talked to the head of my school today and he says that he cant gurantee that i wont be expelled after talking to my prinicple but will pray about it for 3 days and let me know, he says he can pretty much gurantee i can return my jr. year, hope i still have a chance, ha
still no one has told me why they feel the need to bring weed or pipes to school, id say my point has been proven.
^^^^^^^
well i had a business basically set up thanks to rich kids that had no idea that was really good and what wasn't.
I took weed to school a few times one was because I was selling to a girl and she lived about 3 miles away and I couldn't bum a ride with anyone.
If you've never been caught before,can't you say that it was a friends and not yours?Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Hanks
and do you think the schools would belive him?
Do you realise that people say that to much to where it's just a command excuse.
Then if they did belive he would then have to rat on a friend. BTW hey remitted that it was his anyway.
please change your avatar >.< i've had this for a year ; ; i want to be the only one with it..... goddamn you...Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Hanks