Bin Laden denies involvement with 9/11

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

I also don't believe that all the people on the passenger list, loved ones, witnesses are being paid off for silence.
You know why crooks usually like to work alone....less mouths to tell the story to the cops! How many people do you think the government would let in on a plot of this caliber? Damn, Clinton couldn't even get a hummer in private and you think that something of this magnitude would fly? I don't!:thumbsup:

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wow, you have again unknowingly supported some things i am about to present.
The capacity of the plane that "hit" the pentagon was carrying a mere 58 passengers (56 not including "hijackers")... the planes capacity is 200 people and it took off from one of the busiest airports Newark. All the planes contained less than 100 people: lessmouths to tell the story to the cops!

Alright more questions--Why did they said plane attacked the portion of the building that was nearly empty, And why did the aircraft undertook an extreme maneuver to strike this portion.

Where did the wings and engine go- I feel if the said plane was going at an 45 degree angle, most of the left side(wings engines) would be very noticeable, laying on the ground, surely you dont think the wings and engines completely vanish into thin air....

these are two pictures of what the Gov't has used to prove the hijacker:
his name is Hanjour...
first picture is an atm 9/5/01.. second is "airport on 9/11/01" (some say the video isn't from that date)
look at the difference b/w his hairline, and the shape of his head
[this was at dulles airport, and well you guys know Marvin Bush was in charge of security in this airport]

Even more evidence that fires could not have caused the collapse:
today, during Moussaoui's trial some tapes of 911 phone calls were made...

One lady on the 83rd floor of the South Tower said basically the following: The floor was entirely covered w/ smoke, but there were no fires where she was.
I went ahead and looked up which floors were hit by the plane and this is what i found: floors 78-85.

Now does that make any kind of sense in correlation w/ the official report.

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Originally Posted by xblackdogx

Even more evidence that fires could not have caused the collapse:
today, during Moussaoui's trial some tapes of 911 phone calls were made...

One lady on the 83rd floor of the South Tower said basically the following: The floor was entirely covered w/ smoke, but there were no fires where she was.
I went ahead and looked up which floors were hit by the plane and this is what i found: floors 78-85.

Now does that make any kind of sense in correlation w/ the official report.

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Open floor design without smoke barriers. There are fireproof barriers and smoke barriers....with an open floor design you may as well figure that any fire on any floor is going to cause smoke damage throughout the floor in question.

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

Open floor design without smoke barriers. There are fireproof barriers and smoke barriers....with an open floor design you may as well figure that any fire on any floor is going to cause smoke damage throughout the floor in question.

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I think your covers blown dude. lol.

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Originally Posted by xblackdogx

wow, you have again unknowingly supported some things i am about to present.
The capacity of the plane that "hit" the pentagon was carrying a mere 58 passengers (56 not including "hijackers")... the planes capacity is 200 people and it took off from one of the busiest airports Newark. All the planes contained less than 100 people: lessmouths to tell the story to the cops!

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56 passengers...with their families (multiply by 5 at least)....with their friends (multiply by another 5 at least)=over 2600 silent people. Quite a few mouths I'd say!

Look mom!! No plane!!

DAMN I'M GOOD!!!!!!

p.s. I'm not the smartest man in the world, but I think a 757 would make a bigger hole then 16 feet wide and a bigger fireball then that man.

More...

SEE THE GIF FILE "PENTAGON MOVING!"

Even more...

Notice September 12th, 2001 as the date.

YOU'RE FUCKED PSYCHO!!!!

(FREEDOM FILES WEBSITE---PENTAGON CRASH) http://www.freedomfiles.org/war/pentagon.htm

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Originally Posted by Great Spirit

Even more...

Notice September 12th, 2001 as the date.

YOU'RE FUCKED PSYCHO!!!!

(FREEDOM FILES WEBSITE---PENTAGON CRASH) http://www.freedomfiles.org/war/pentagon.htm

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i'm glad you posted that video...

I know for a fact that the cameras they have on the George Washington Brigde are fiber optic cameras. The guy that told me about them saw them personally and said that when you are driving across the bridge that they can zoom in on the details of what you have sitting on your lap. Furthermore, can even see the threads on your pants.

The Pentagon has AT THE VERY LEAST the same technology and all they show is this extremely poor quality film? Does that make sense?

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Originally Posted by Great Spirit

YOU'RE FUCKED PSYCHO!!!!

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Not yet....my lady friend works till 2:30...talk to me about 4:00 on that one!:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

56 passengers...with their families (multiply by 5 at least)....with their friends (multiply by another 5 at least)=over 2600 silent people. Quite a few mouths I'd say!

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as opposed to:
200 passengers... with their fam (x5) - 10000, friends (x5)- 10000
= 20,200 from ONE PLANE.

see what i mean now... ALL THE PLANES WERE LESS THAN 1/2 full (almost positive, just looked up the number yest)

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

Not yet....my lady friend works till 2:30...talk to me about 4:00 on that one!:thumbsup:

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Lady friend? What about wife or girlfriend? Don't you have any morals!!?? lol Wrap it before you tap it!

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Originally Posted by xblackdogx

i'm glad you posted that video...

I know for a fact that the cameras they have on the George Washington Brigde are fiber optic cameras. The guy that told me about them saw them personally and said that when you are driving across the bridge that they can zoom in on the details of what you have sitting on your lap. Furthermore, can even see the threads on your pants.

The Pentagon has AT THE VERY LEAST the same technology and all they show is this extremely poor quality film? Does that make sense?

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I heard the security video from a nearby gas station was confiscated by federal agents. Why is that?? Shit, don't you think the feds would want to keep that to prove their claim that a "757 plane" hit it?

Anything I can do for the movement brother...let me know. I am more spiritually inclined though, so I don't know what other help I can be except just find videos and pictures and quotes.

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Originally Posted by Great Spirit

Lady friend? What about wife or girlfriend? Don't you have any morals!!?? lol Wrap it before you tap it!

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LOL...I keep religion and government out of my bedroom. Unless of course they want to join in!

Yah, a biker with high moral values!!! Wait till I tell the bro's that one!:stoned:

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Originally Posted by xblackdogx

as opposed to:
200 passengers... with their fam (x5) - 10000, friends (x5)- 10000
= 20,200 from ONE PLANE.

see what i mean now... ALL THE PLANES WERE LESS THAN 1/2 full (almost positive, just looked up the number yest)

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That would be considerably more....so how many people knew about Clinton getting a hummer?

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

LOL...I keep religion and government out of my bedroom. Unless of course they want to join in!

Yah, a biker with high moral values!!! Wait till I tell the bro's that one!:stoned:

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Sex is supposed to be a sacred act...regardless of religion.

FUNNY PSYCHO HOW YOU NEVER DISPROVED THOSE 5 SLIDE PENTAGON PICTURES. THAT IS WHY I BELIEVE YOU ARE NSA!!

You know for some reason...I thought I had more posts than 414.

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Originally Posted by Great Spirit

Sex is supposed to be a sacred act...regardless of religion.

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And it is, there's this one lady that just loves to scream "Oh God"...kind of amusing!:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

And it is, there's this one lady that just loves to scream "Oh God"...kind of amusing!:thumbsup:

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I hope you don't try to fuck little children as well since you seem to enjoy sex and are a smartass. A lot of the wealthy and powerful do that type of shit.

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Originally Posted by Great Spirit

I hope you don't try to fuck little children as well since you seem to enjoy sex and are a smartass. A lot of the wealthy and powerful do that type of shit.

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Why are you always out to cross lines? Get a grip buddy!

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

Why are you always out to cross lines? Get a grip buddy!

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Quit your reverse psychology son. You still never tried to prove me wrong about those 5 slided Pentagon Crash pictures.

What else are your going to tell me?

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Originally Posted by Great Spirit

Quit your reverse psychology son. You still never tried to prove me wrong about those 5 slided Pentagon Crash pictures.

What else are your going to tell me?

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I'm done playing your lil' game here boy. I've been through this crap many times on here and you just don't get it. There's a diffence between a healthy debate and your method of no fact besides LOW BLOW insults. Go play with someone else dude!

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

I'm done playing your lil' game here boy. I've been through this crap many times on here and you just don't get it. There's a diffence between a healthy debate and your method of no fact besides LOW BLOW insults. Go play with someone else dude!

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Yup....definately NSA.

This guy won't even try to disprove the pictures. Total giveaway there buddy! But I guess it doesn't matter. After all, a picture is worth a thousand words. lol.

he can come play with me, but i just want to kick his ass, so im no better.

^^ does that mean you believe that the gov't is telling the truth,
or you think he is an a-hole

I do believe that Osama didn't even do it I had thought this from day one.I think personally he might of been on the plane when bush ordered no planes eg comercial planes but the bin ladens were flying back home so.I believe it was the american government that makes perfect sense not that going to war for 2987 peoples lives thats bullshit but he needed a story that the america people were going to buy so they could supposed go to war.;)

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Originally Posted by Great Spirit

Quit your reverse psychology son. You still never tried to prove me wrong about those 5 slided Pentagon Crash pictures.

What else are your going to tell me?

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So what exactly happened to the plane that supposidly hit the pentagon, you fucking idiot?

You're saying a missle or something other than a plane hit it, so what happened to the plane the gov. says hit it?

Did it disappear? It took off full of passengers, then magically disappeared:rolleyes:

LoL tadaa follows like a good lil sheep--the plane wasnt full of people--for all we know the plane could be at the bottom of the ocean---

Can any1 prove the government story of the events of 911 ---any1 any1 Bueller any1

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Originally Posted by tadaa

So what exactly happened to the plane that supposidly hit the pentagon, you fucking idiot?

You're saying a missle or something other than a plane hit it, so what happened to the plane the gov. says hit it?

Did it disappear? It took off full of passengers, then magically disappeared:rolleyes:

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There was no plane...you fucking idiot. lol. It's called pulling things out of your ass!!!!! Try it sometime. You'll be surprised.

You see son, when a "757 plane" crashes and only leaves a hole 16 feet wide and no wreckage of an actual plane...that kind of makes you think that they made up the entire story.

With an unlimited black ops budget you can make people go anywhere and say anything. There was no plane!!

A 757 does this??

You'd betta check yoself foo!!!

It quite clearly proves that there was no plane there not a scrap that hole is not big enough at all for a plane to do that,come on when you see the footage there is book lying there on a book stand and it isn't burnt or moved in anyway the windows around the hole is not smashed/broken and there wasn't any piece of the plane so figure it out for yourself have a look at the footage yourself in slow motion.:thumbsup: :smokin:

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Originally Posted by Miss Green

It quite clearly proves that there was no plane there not a scrap that hole is not big enough at all for a plane to do that,come on when you see the footage there is book lying there on a book stand and it isn't burnt or moved in anyway the windows around the hole is not smashed/broken and there wasn't any piece of the plane so figure it out for yourself have a look at the footage yourself in slow motion.:thumbsup: :smokin:

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Amen sister. I take it your in the UK? I would watch your butt too dear. They just put that new terror law into effect in the UK. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/4905304.stm

I think when we strike Iran, I will hightail my ass to Canada. Iran will be far more different than Iraq, as Iran could possibly give us a run for our money. There is probably going to be another stock market crash in 2007 predicted by Edgar Cayce, so I won't have to worry about my credit cards! lol.

Okay, here's the deal:

First off, Osama bin Fuckhead has never admitted to the 9-11 attacks. What he has said is that he is glad 9-11 happened. He has never claimed responsibility for 9-11. He sure as hell isn't doing it to avoid pissing us off. He did that already with the embassy bombings and the attack on the USS Cole (both of which he claimed responsibility for immediately after the attacks happened).

Therefore, given the fact that Osama has yet to say he sponsored or planned 9-11, you must assume that he didn't have anything to do with it.

Now, if you look at Bush's face when he is told about the WTC attack, his expression says, "It finally happened. The thing that I was told to expect has finally happened". It is the look someone has when they hear that someone they know has died after a long illness- you knew something bad was going to happen, just not when or how.

So, my theory is this: The people who really run America told Bush that at some point in his presidency, an event will occur, which will result in him executing a preplanned political agenda. While he was aware something big would happen, he just didn't know when or what. hence the look on his face when told of the WTC attacks.

As further proof, consider this: Me and several of my friends watched live CNN video of cruise missiles bombarding Kabul, Afghanistan within TWO HOURS after the second tower fell. That story was on the air for about 3 minutes and was never mentioned again. Sounds to me like the Navy or CIA already were commencing the invasion of Afghanistan.

Also, don't forget, just 24 hours before the WTC attack, the leader of the Northern Alliance was assasinated, allowing Harmid Karzai to take leadership. How convenient. My theory is this: we approached Karzai's predecessor about being a puppet of the US and he said no. We killed him and put Karzai in his place, because Karzai agreed to be our puppet.

In conclusion, 9-11 was not done by al Qaeda or Osama bin Sheepfucker. Instead, 9-11 was done as an excuse to further turn America into a police state by those who wield the true power in this country.

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Originally Posted by krustythfreakinclown

Okay, here's the deal:

First off, Osama bin Fuckhead has never admitted to the 9-11 attacks. What he has said is that he is glad 9-11 happened. He has never claimed responsibility for 9-11. He sure as hell isn't doing it to avoid pissing us off. He did that already with the embassy bombings and the attack on the USS Cole (both of which he claimed responsibility for immediately after the attacks happened).

Therefore, given the fact that Osama has yet to say he sponsored or planned 9-11, you must assume that he didn't have anything to do with it.

Now, if you look at Bush's face when he is told about the WTC attack, his expression says, "It finally happened. The thing that I was told to expect has finally happened". It is the look someone has when they hear that someone they know has died after a long illness- you knew something bad was going to happen, just not when or how.

So, my theory is this: The people who really run America told Bush that at some point in his presidency, an event will occur, which will result in him executing a preplanned political agenda. While he was aware something big would happen, he just didn't know when or what. hence the look on his face when told of the WTC attacks.

As further proof, consider this: Me and several of my friends watched live CNN video of cruise missiles bombarding Kabul, Afghanistan within TWO HOURS after the second tower fell. That story was on the air for about 3 minutes and was never mentioned again. Sounds to me like the Navy or CIA already were commencing the invasion of Afghanistan.

Also, don't forget, just 24 hours before the WTC attack, the leader of the Northern Alliance was assasinated, allowing Harmid Karzai to take leadership. How convenient. My theory is this: we approached Karzai's predecessor about being a puppet of the US and he said no. We killed him and put Karzai in his place, because Karzai agreed to be our puppet.

In conclusion, 9-11 was not done by al Qaeda or Osama bin Sheepfucker. Instead, 9-11 was done as an excuse to further turn America into a police state by those who wield the true power in this country.

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Great post! I couldn't have said it better myself! At least someone doesn't have their head up their ass.

This is very scary that 9/11 was used to bring about a fascist dictatorship in Amerika and to create a New World Order or better known as a New American Century! I am waiting for them anyday to come kick down my door and arrest me and throw me in an American Nazi detention camp.

"The truth is yes, you do have these stand by provisions, and the plans are here . . . whereby you could, in the name of stopping terrorism . . . evoke the military and arrest Americans and put them in detention camps." - Congressman Henry Gonzales

On Alex Jones' website http://www.infowars.com there are clips of soldiers in mock training using Gestappo tactics to detain US citizens. What the fuck!!!!

You would think humans would have learned from their mistakes. I guess I was wrong. It is times like these where you ask G-d to kill you because you can't go up against such powerful evil men like Bush and Cheney...

Just because you're not paranoid...doesn't mean they're not out to get you!

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Originally Posted by krustythfreakinclown

Okay, here's the deal:

First off, Osama bin Fuckhead has never admitted to the 9-11 attacks. What he has said is that he is glad 9-11 happened. He has never claimed responsibility for 9-11. He sure as hell isn't doing it to avoid pissing us off. He did that already with the embassy bombings and the attack on the USS Cole (both of which he claimed responsibility for immediately after the attacks happened).

Therefore, given the fact that Osama has yet to say he sponsored or planned 9-11, you must assume that he didn't have anything to do with it.

Now, if you look at Bush's face when he is told about the WTC attack, his expression says, "It finally happened. The thing that I was told to expect has finally happened". It is the look someone has when they hear that someone they know has died after a long illness- you knew something bad was going to happen, just not when or how.

So, my theory is this: The people who really run America told Bush that at some point in his presidency, an event will occur, which will result in him executing a preplanned political agenda. While he was aware something big would happen, he just didn't know when or what. hence the look on his face when told of the WTC attacks.

As further proof, consider this: Me and several of my friends watched live CNN video of cruise missiles bombarding Kabul, Afghanistan within TWO HOURS after the second tower fell. That story was on the air for about 3 minutes and was never mentioned again. Sounds to me like the Navy or CIA already were commencing the invasion of Afghanistan.

Also, don't forget, just 24 hours before the WTC attack, the leader of the Northern Alliance was assasinated, allowing Harmid Karzai to take leadership. How convenient. My theory is this: we approached Karzai's predecessor about being a puppet of the US and he said no. We killed him and put Karzai in his place, because Karzai agreed to be our puppet.

In conclusion, 9-11 was not done by al Qaeda or Osama bin Sheepfucker. Instead, 9-11 was done as an excuse to further turn America into a police state by those who wield the true power in this country.

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Great post...I only agree about 25% with you. I like your use of logic and reasoning.

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Originally Posted by krustythfreakinclown

Okay, here's the deal:

First off, Osama bin Fuckhead has never admitted to the 9-11 attacks. What he has said is that he is glad 9-11 happened. He has never claimed responsibility for 9-11. He sure as hell isn't doing it to avoid pissing us off. He did that already with the embassy bombings and the attack on the USS Cole (both of which he claimed responsibility for immediately after the attacks happened).

Osama bin Laden said for the first time that he ordered the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, according to a videotape made public today, and he accused President Bush of "misleading the American people" about the attacks.

He also said that "the reasons to repeat what happened" on 9/11 remain, according to the Web site of the Al Jazeera satellite news network, which obtained the tape.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/29/in...er=rssuserland


Therefore, given the fact that Osama has yet to say he sponsored or planned 9-11, you must assume that he didn't have anything to do with it.

You know if you assume....well, you know...

Now, if you look at Bush's face when he is told about the WTC attack, his expression says, "It finally happened. The thing that I was told to expect has finally happened". It is the look someone has when they hear that someone they know has died after a long illness- you knew something bad was going to happen, just not when or how.

So, my theory is this: The people who really run America told Bush that at some point in his presidency, an event will occur, which will result in him executing a preplanned political agenda. While he was aware something big would happen, he just didn't know when or what. hence the look on his face when told of the WTC attacks.

As further proof, consider this: Me and several of my friends watched live CNN video of cruise missiles bombarding Kabul, Afghanistan within TWO HOURS after the second tower fell. That story was on the air for about 3 minutes and was never mentioned again. Sounds to me like the Navy or CIA already were commencing the invasion of Afghanistan.

Oct. 7, 2001 - Military operations with aerial bombardment began in Afghanistan
http://www.timelineindex.com/content/view/170

Also, don't forget, just 24 hours before the WTC attack, the leader of the Northern Alliance was assasinated, allowing Harmid Karzai to take leadership. How convenient. My theory is this: we approached Karzai's predecessor about being a puppet of the US and he said no. We killed him and put Karzai in his place, because Karzai agreed to be our puppet.

(CNN) -- On September 9, the guerrilla leader of Afghanistan's Northern Alliance and enemy of the ruling Taliban was fatally attacked as he began what he believed was an interview with two TV journalists. Two days later, terrorists struck the United States.
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/a.../bindra.focus/
So the Taliban was working for us??

In conclusion, 9-11 was not done by al Qaeda or Osama bin Sheepfucker. Instead, 9-11 was done as an excuse to further turn America into a police state by those who wield the true power in this country.

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We got police in all states but it's not a "police state".

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

We got police in all states but it's not a "police state".

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

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Ask yourself where is the plane at the Pentagon...

The first picture is a picture of the Pentagon wall before collapse. There is video of this as well on "9/11 In Plane Site" showing the wall collapsing.

Surely if something as big as a Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon at the alleged speed, it would have destroyed that wall right on impact.

And also...I JUST DON'T SEE ANY PLANE WRECKAGE EITHER!!

Lol it was funny today in class my teacher asks if we know any communists. I should have asked "will you turn them in if I know any?" lol.