mexicans on the march

foo ur stupid like we really can...isnt thats wat were asking for?....dumbass

and thats to jeff

shock and awe

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Originally Posted by BlazedMonk3y

sorry but this is from a Mexican, your gov has been a dick to my people all our fucken life and the way i feel hurts? well then too bad bro sorry hear me point of view of the hurted ones

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yeah, such a dick that california taxpayers alone had to foot the bill for a 500 million dollar loss from illegals skipping out on their medical bills and another 300 million in arizona...all in 2004...one year! now multiply that by all the other years not included along with all the other things government provides illegals that taxpayers pay for and maybe you'll see what all the fuss is about...then there's the open border-terrorism issue along with all the smuggling and throughout the southwest there's a problem with illegals not having vehicle insurance and skipping out when they damage property, or worse!. what is there to argue about here?

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foo ur stupid like we really can...isnt thats wat were asking for?....dumbass

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With your last like 6 post, it is hurting the cause. Debate on issues that are fair issues, not some extremist anti-gov't hate posts.

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Frist off, i wanna point out BlazedMonk3y, you need to fucking stop your damn spaming triple posting you got there, theres a edit button there for a reson!

Second, ill have to agree with jeff up there, they had the chance to get Citizienship over the time of years, hell some have been here 20+ years and still haven't got there ass up and tryed at least to get leagalised.

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If they were to ever announce that they are currently living in the US if and when they attempt to get their citizenship they will be deported immediately unless they have amnesty. It's not easy to get citizenship, and if they did many places wouldn't hire them because they would have to pay them above minimum wage.

I agree would the triple posting though. That's not cool, and kinda makes you look like a douchebag.

Im Hispanic and thought this protest was shit, they didnt even protest the war

Also Mexicans should be pissed at there own government, not just U.S.

Man don't be caling me a dumb, ass i didn't fucking tell any of you to hope the boarder, that was your peoples choice not mine and they May or may not pay for what they have done,

you'll just have to wait and see what they say

edited, sorry befor i posted i say your last Duble post :upsidedow but my point still stands for the rest of what i said!

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yeah, such a dick that california taxpayers alone had to foot the bill for a 500 million dollar loss from illegals skipping out on their medical bills and another 300 million in arizona...all in 2004...one year! now multiply that by all the other years not included along with all the other things government provides illegals that taxpayers pay for and maybe you'll see what all the fuss is about...then there's the open border-terrorism issue along with all the smuggling and throughout the southwest there's a problem with illegals not having vehicle insurance and skipping out when they damage property, or worse!. what is there to argue about here?

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and we're also paying for things that happened because of Katrina. Whose fault was that, the government's. If the government revised the healthcare program, including healthcare for illegal immigrants in emergency situations, along with homeless, and the poor. EVERYONE should have healthcare: CANADA!.... so close but so far for human rights... so basically if the US changed their healthcare programs you wouldnt foot the bill for 800 million.

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Originally Posted by del...

yeah, such a dick that california taxpayers alone had to foot the bill for a 500 million dollar loss from illegals skipping out on their medical bills and another 300 million in arizona...all in 2004...one year! now multiply that by all the other years not included along with all the other things government provides illegals that taxpayers pay for and maybe you'll see what all the fuss is about...then there's the open border-terrorism issue along with all the smuggling and throughout the southwest there's a problem with illegals not having vehicle insurance and skipping out when they damage property, or worse!. what is there to argue about here?

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As for the open-border terrorism issue, then wouldn't we have to close the canadian border as well? A while back a terrorist who was planning a bombing in LA was stopped at the canadian border. Besides, are there not illegal aliens of different backgrounds other than hispanic living in LA? I've noticed a lot of people from the Middle East around here, del. You know you have, too. Surely not everyone working at the 711's are legal citizens. Both sides of the spectrum.

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yeah, such a dick that california taxpayers alone had to foot the bill for a 500 million dollar loss from illegals skipping out on their medical bills and another 300 million in arizona...all in 2004...one year! now multiply that by all the other years not included along with all the other things government provides illegals that taxpayers pay for and maybe you'll see what all the fuss is about...then there's the open border-terrorism issue along with all the smuggling and throughout the southwest there's a problem with illegals not having vehicle insurance and skipping out when they damage property, or worse!. what is there to argue about here?

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lol i guess it would be better to be legal huh? lmao

If the Mexicans got bud legal across the board I would support them :P. As of now I only support them if they come in USA legally and LEARN our Language PLEASE! My ancestors came here legally and learned English you Mexicans should have to also :|

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If the Mexicans got bud legal across the board I would support them :P. As of now I only support them if they come in USA legally and LEARN our Language PLEASE! My ancestors came here legally and learned English you Mexicans should have to also :|

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LoL your only consurn is the language? theres alot bigger issues then just that. ;)

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As for the open-border terrorism issue, then wouldn't we have to close the canadian border as well? A while back a terrorist who was planning a bombing in LA was stopped at the canadian border. Besides, are there not illegal aliens of different backgrounds other than hispanic living in LA? I've noticed a lot of people from the Middle East around here, del. You know you have, too. Surely not everyone working at the 711's are legal citizens. Both sides of the spectrum.

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canada's self-defense system is far more current than mexico's because they work with us on the border, unlike mexico. it's silly to compare the two...same for your l.a. argument. latino's far outnumber all other minorities there (are they even a minority there any more?) and their border is a short drive away...so let's keep it real here, ok?

If they come here legally I dont have a problem with any one. once you come here ILLEGALLY FUCK you

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With your last like 6 post, it is hurting the cause. Debate on issues that are fair issues, not some extremist anti-gov't hate posts.

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i just hate this gov cause all it does is try to take money from any and everything and for what wars? come one can we all just live in peace?
whats FEMA trying to do? take all that money they gave to katrinas victims...i know we all heard LIFE IS WORTH MORE THAN GOLD

Monkey, please shut up already, you have no idea what you are talking about

put up a big ass fence and shoot anybody that comes over. the only way they will stop is with a show of force. dont give them water and medical treatment. shoot them and see how eager the rest are to come over.

thats the only way they will learn. deport all the illegals that dont have a job. so we can keep the ones working already.

why should we have to pay for your schooling, medical bills, and all types of other shit. they claim they have this right and that right. you dont you are here illegally. you dont have the same rights as a U.S. citizen.

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put up a big ass fence and shoot anybody that comes over. the only way they will stop is with a show of force. dont give them water and medical treatment. shoot them and see how eager the rest are to come over.

thats the only way they will learn. deport all the illegals that dont have a job. so we can keep the ones working already.

why should we have to pay for your schooling, medical bills, and all types of other shit. they claim they have this right and that right. you dont you are here illegally. you dont have the same rights as a U.S. citizen.

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you do that where the fuck is that good weed gonna come from!

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put up a big ass fence and shoot anybody that comes over. the only way they will stop is with a show of force. dont give them water and medical treatment. shoot them and see how eager the rest are to come over.

thats the only way they will learn. deport all the illegals that dont have a job. so we can keep the ones working already.

why should we have to pay for your schooling, medical bills, and all types of other shit. they claim they have this right and that right. you dont you are here illegally. you dont have the same rights as a U.S. citizen.

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damn foo your even more crazy, think with ur head not ur ass

EDIT.... and you wouldnt be supporting us thats why we want equal rights, after being your slaves all our life wat u expect foo were not gonna we quiet anymore...and thats a proven fact

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Originally Posted by Fabolous

you do that where the fuck is that good weed gonna come from!

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mexican weed joke, lol thanks

FYI= there has been two mass deportation in the last 100 years

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Originally Posted by del...

yeah, such a dick that california taxpayers alone had to foot the bill for a 500 million dollar loss from illegals skipping out on their medical bills and another 300 million in arizona...all in 2004...one year! now multiply that by all the other years not included along with all the other things government provides illegals that taxpayers pay for and maybe you'll see what all the fuss is about...then there's the open border-terrorism issue along with all the smuggling and throughout the southwest there's a problem with illegals not having vehicle insurance and skipping out when they damage property, or worse!. what is there to argue about here?

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Don't forget about the billions owed to ComEd. I personally wouldn't care who comes here as long as they pay their share of the bills and learn the English language and live normally, not having 30 people in a single family home; that's just gross.
And since that isn't gonna happen........

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I mean, come on, we're just under 300 years old.....and look what we have accomplished....give us another hundred years and the American flag will be on Mars......it makes my smile to think the U.S. will have its own planet someday!!!!:dance:



What would Martian weed be like?

Have a nice weekend.......:rasta:

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this way of thinking is what i hate, your "dream" your ambition to have it all which brings me back to an old post i posted a lil while back
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=54892
that's what this dream is

cancerous life style

Why arenâ??t all those Mexicans who are protesting kicking Vicente Foxâ??s ass right now. Why doesnâ??t Mexico take a little responsibility for being the fucking cesspool that it is.

Every Illegal immigrant who crosses our bordersâ?¦spits in the face of every other immigrant who came to this country legally.

Fuckemâ?¦.we have hospitals being literally shut down by this shit. Do they fucking care?

Send them back and for every illegal sent back than let in another immigrant (not just Mexican) who is interested in doing things right.

I say dump them all in Mexico City and let Mr. Fox worry about how HE is going to care for them.

Itâ??s not our fault they have a fucked up corrupt governmentâ?¦yet all you hear about is how cold hearted America is.

Mexico needs to straighten their shit out and they wouldnâ??t â??needâ?� to come here.

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Why arenâ??t all those Mexicans who are protesting kicking Vicente Foxâ??s ass right now. Why doesnâ??t Mexico take a little responsibility for being the fucking cesspool that it is.

Every Illegal immigrant who crosses our bordersâ?¦spits in the face of every other immigrant who came to this country legally.

Fuckemâ?¦.we have hospitals being literally shut down by this shit. Do they fucking care?

Send them back and for every illegal sent back than let in another immigrant (not just Mexican) who is interested in doing things right.

I say dump them all in Mexico City and let Mr. Fox worry about how HE is going to care for them.

Itâ??s not our fault they have a fucked up corrupt governmentâ?¦yet all you hear about is how cold hearted America is.

Mexico needs to straighten their shit out and they wouldnâ??t â??needâ?� to come here.

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You make several points but the most brilliant one is why isn't the leader of Mexico doing his job? Why isn't there a revolt against the Mexican government? Such beautiful land and they could accomplish so much.

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Why arenâ??t all those Mexicans who are protesting kicking Vicente Foxâ??s ass right now. Why doesnâ??t Mexico take a little responsibility for being the fucking cesspool that it is.

Every Illegal immigrant who crosses our bordersâ?¦spits in the face of every other immigrant who came to this country legally.

Fuckemâ?¦.we have hospitals being literally shut down by this shit. Do they fucking care?

Send them back and for every illegal sent back than let in another immigrant (not just Mexican) who is interested in doing things right.

I say dump them all in Mexico City and let Mr. Fox worry about how HE is going to care for them.

Itâ??s not our fault they have a fucked up corrupt governmentâ?¦yet all you hear about is how cold hearted America is.

Mexico needs to straighten their shit out and they wouldnâ??t â??needâ?� to come here.

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And what would the world be like if people couldn't flee their homeland b/c of unfair conditions. Thousands more Jews would have been killed by the Nazis, 2.5 million currently displaced in countries surrounding Darfur (Chad) would have been just other victims to the bullet along with the 300,000 that have already gone down in the past 3 years. And with America's founding thoughts to base the nation on, I think we can occupy hard working Mexicans that are currently vital to our society's economy.

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Why arenâ??t all those Mexicans who are protesting kicking Vicente Foxâ??s ass right now. Why doesnâ??t Mexico take a little responsibility for being the fucking cesspool that it is.

cause most of us have been here living all our life

Every Illegal immigrant who crosses our bordersâ?¦spits in the face of every other immigrant who came to this country legally.

not many come legally

Fuckemâ?¦.we have hospitals being literally shut down by this shit. Do they fucking care?

well then be legal so you have records of everyone

Send them back and for every illegal sent back than let in another immigrant (not just Mexican) who is interested in doing things right.

thats what we want do things right...work and STUDY

I say dump them all in Mexico City and let Mr. Fox worry about how HE is going to care for them.

no let america handle us we been slaving here for a long long time

Itâ??s not our fault they have a fucked up corrupt governmentâ?¦yet all you hear about is how cold hearted America is.

mexico is out of this, america is our home not mexico

Mexico needs to straighten their shit out and they wouldnâ??t â??needâ?� to come here.

true but were already here and been here for a long time

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we all just need to fucken deal with eachother were hear so wtf...deal with it and it has to be for the good cause were not gonna stayin quiet anymore

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And what would the world be like if people couldn't flee their homeland b/c of unfair conditions. Thousands more Jews would have been killed by the Nazis, 2.5 million currently displaced in countries surrounding Darfur (Chad) would have been just other victims to the bullet along with the 300,000 that have already gone down in the past 3 years. And with America's founding thoughts to base the nation on, I think we can occupy hard working Mexicans that are currently vital to our society's economy.

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well then just kill us like nazis...
we're all hard working Mexicans and we all know that

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well then just kill us like nazis...
we're all hard working Mexicans and we all know that

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i don't think you bring any positive effort to try to change minds about how bent these laws are; if you truly care for the cause: don't post as you have been. you are just reassuring the thoughts of people that aren't thinking likewise.

All I can say is...

another straight case of racism
how can anyone fault someone for wanting to make a better life for themselves and their family.
It is survival
Whatever happened to America the melting pot?

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And what would the world be like if people couldn't flee their homeland b/c of unfair conditions. Thousands more Jews would have been killed by the Nazis, 2.5 million currently displaced in countries surrounding Darfur (Chad) would have been just other victims to the bullet along with the 300,000 that have already gone down in the past 3 years. And with America's founding thoughts to base the nation on, I think we can occupy hard working Mexicans that are currently vital to our society's economy.

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Mexican are not leaving Mexico to escape religious or ethnic persecution. They are leaving for economic reasons. I would say that if they believe that their conditions are so â??unfairâ?� than perhaps THEY should change that factâ?¦through revolution if necessary. If every illegal immigrant in the US decided to stay in their homeland and fight for change than change would happen.

They reason why Americanâ??s wonâ??t work in those jobs is because the wages are unfair not because we think were to good for it. The wages are unfair because the workforce is illegal and bosses can pay whatever they like.

Hard working AMERICAN business owners who choose to obey the law and hire legal labor canâ??t compete because their competitors can under bid them because they use illegal labor.

Yeah you might have to pay an extra dollar for your lettuce but how much would you save on medical, school, uninsured motorist, and jail/prison expenses.

Mexico needs to get their own shit straight.

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All I can say is...

another straight case of racism
how can anyone fault someone for wanting to make a better life for themselves and their family.
It is survival
Whatever happened to America the melting pot?

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and i post what i feel

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Mexican are not leaving Mexico to escape religious or ethnic persecution. They are leaving for economic reasons. I would say that if they believe that their conditions are so â??unfairâ?� than perhaps THEY should change that factâ?¦through revolution if necessary. If every illegal immigrant in the US decided to stay in their homeland and fight for change than change would happen.

They reason why Americanâ??s wonâ??t work in those jobs is because the wages are unfair not because we think were to good for it. The wages are unfair because the workforce is illegal and bosses can pay whatever they like.

Hard working AMERICAN business owners who choose to obey the law and hire legal labor canâ??t compete because their competitors can under bid them because they use illegal labor.

Yeah you might have to pay an extra dollar for your lettuce but how much would you save on medical, school, uninsured motorist, and jail/prison expenses.

Mexico needs to get their own shit straight.

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IMO the reasons you can flee from your homeland transcend beyond just religous reasons: communist gov't (are fleeing N. Koreans stopped by the country of destination), poor economic conditions, etc. And there would be no America if you say people should fight for change in their homeland. And yes, companies are exploiting the illegal immigrants, shouldn't they be held responsible? you still give money to the people that employ them (pizza, landscape); you shouldn't be supporting them (this is all hypothetical; given you eat pizza and your grass grows).

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All I can say is....
another straight case of racism
how can anyone fault someone for wanting to make a better life for themselves and their family.
It is survival
Whatever happened to America the melting pot?

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It's not just Mexicans. Many of the new immigrants do not want to learn the language, expect everything to be handed to them on a platter, want dual citizenship, new laws that infringe upon others, everything for free, and more.

I live in a city with over 120 ethnic groups, and if I were "racist", or did not like diversity, I would move. It gets annoying, though, when you cannot even communicate with half the people you work with (and sometimes for!). I enjoy spending a little time on my lunch hour, in NYC, helping tourists with limited language skills find their way around. But, come on, we've got people that have been here for 20 or more years that can't speak English, much less read or write it, at all - and then there are the people that were BORN here that are just as bad, or worse.

This has been going on for some time - and itâ??s only getting worse. I don't mean to make scapegoats out of any one group - there are many that are not "melting" very well, if at all.

robbing banks is against the law---crossing the border in against the law....
I want to support my family...so I guess I can rob banks.....I mean come on....I am just trying to raise my family

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IMO the reasons you can flee from your homeland transcend beyond just religous reasons: communist gov't (are fleeing N. Koreans stopped by the country of destination), poor economic conditions, etc. And there would be no America if you say people should fight for change in their homeland. And yes, companies are exploiting the illegal immigrants, shouldn't they be held responsible? you still give money to the people that employ them (pizza, landscape); you shouldn't be supporting them (this is all hypothetical; given you eat pizza and your grass grows).

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Yes I understand that there are many reasons why someone may want to flee their homeland. But I equate illegal immigration with cutting in line and not just in front of other Mexicans but butting in front of the whole world. Why should a Mexican have a greater right to be an American than some other deserving soul from say Chad. So the way I see it is ....if someone is not chasing you with a butcher knife than wait in line just like everyone else.

Iâ??ve been to Panmunjeom and the JSA/DMZ and South Koreanâ??s donâ??t have to worry about fleeing millions of North Koreans because North Korean soldiers would shoot them in the back if they tried. Thatâ??s not exactly Mr. Foxâ??s solution he gives them maps and tips on how to violate our sovereignty.

I think employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants should be severally punished. If you stop making it beneficial to them they will stop doing it.

I have no way of knowing if the fine Mexican at the pizza joint is illegal or not. It is left up to the employer to check his documentation.

I would like very much to be able to grow my own grass : )

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this way of thinking is what i hate, your "dream" your ambition to have it all which brings me back to an old post i posted a lil while back
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=54892
that's what this dream is

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It's just one planet(Mars). Nobody is stopping the Mexican't gov. from having its own space program(illegals in space!?). Is not Mexico older than the U.S? Don't blame us for your problems. So much for "Mexican pride".

What I am concerned about with all the illegal Mexican't are people will look at Mexicans and connect it with criminal behavior. I lived in Denver for ten years and I knew people who would not drive behind, in front of, or next to, because there was a good chance that they were illegals and had no driver's lic. OR insurance so if there's an crash GUESS who pays??????

Call your Congressman today and tell him/her to deport all illegals etc.