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Where? I just want to see these drawings for myself. I can easily fathom the possibility of an alternate explanation for our origin, but I'm not going to accept any theory unless it has a substantial body of evidence behind it.Quote:
Originally Posted by king kong bong
the same can be said about those scientists.Quote:
Well, we can't just take dead people by their word. Dead people, much like living people, said lots of crazy things.
Right, which is why science places a lot of emphasis on peer review and replicating other scientists' results.Quote:
Originally Posted by king kong bong
I dont belive alot of shit, I dont belive in religeon but i belive there is something a "higher" being if you will. We know what happened up to 3 seconds before the big bang what i want to know is what happened in those 3 seconds? Im a scientist, i belive in science not science fiction. Yes there may be Aliens and UFO's but until i see one i'm doubtful. I do understand that the Galaxy is a unscalable size and that we can't be the only life in it. But if there is life in the Universe i doubt they have more advanced technology then us. I doubt they look different from us. It wouldn't surprise me that much if there was another earth with humans.Quote:
Originally Posted by king kong bong
http://www.crystalinks.com/ancientastronauts.html
thats a good link.
Hmm, I wonder why all those aliens look like distorted humans or human/animal hybrids.
Lmao that just looks like some Human holding a small child. How the fuck is that supposed to prove anything? Maybe the guy drawing it just got high and started drawin weird shit (i do it..).
http://www.dudeman.net/siriusly/ufo/ast.shtml
heres another one.
heres an interesting thing. everyone believes in god but not aliens. so where is the proof that god exists? everyone wants proof of aliens but what about god?
God dosent exist hes a lie.
Something exists but not God.
How did the first particle get made? The Very First part of the universe?
we're somewhere on the same wave length...
a lot of stoners are atheists. hmmm, i wonder why.....
Yet but alot of stoners like to think of god as a massive stoner..lol I do
Holy shit this thread got long real fast. I fell asleep for a bit and it's long as hell now. I don't know where I came from and don't care too much. If we were created or just spontanious accident, it still doesn't change the fact that we're all stuck here together. All we can do is try our best and improve ourselves any way we can. :)
I think drugs and religion have an intersting relationship. Religion requires an open mind (leap of faith) and pot opens your mind. Religion is used to help with addiction. Some people are religious addicts though. They could balance out they're fanatisism by smoking pot. I don't know where I'm going with this...Somebody help me out.
well i think i put up a pretty good argument in favor of my alien/human origin.
You're right. Alien belief is just as grounded in evidence as god belief is. There is just as much reliable evidence for gods as there is for aliens. Which is why I'm an atheist. However, I think aliens are more plausible than gods, since we know evolution happens but we've never seen a god pop out of nowhere. Aliens probably do exist, but the vast majority are probably not capable of space travel and those that are seem to be too far away to get here. Space is really fuckin huge, and spaceships are slow.Quote:
Originally Posted by king kong bong
Who says spaceships are slow? (i know im a hypocrite) But if they have more advanced technology then us they could have some like Super Fast Machine Thingy that goes like 1000x the speed of light.
But doubtful..
rofl, its so hilarious how so many people pull random ideas about aliens out of their asses. honestly, are you guys all 12 years old?
EVOLUTION
its undeniable.
dont believe me?
do some reasearch. the proof of Evolution is all around us.
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Originally Posted by Oneironaut
Look up a book called "Chariots of the Gods" and its sequel, "Gods From Outer Space". You'll find your pictures there as well as a whole lot of info on this topic.:thumbsup:
O.K. wise guy, I may not be as informed or studied as you in evolution however, if time is infinate, I find it hard to believe that God created man. The story's too short. And I doubt we evolved from apes. You seem invested in the evolution theory. Although I welcome your doubts about the alien theory, you sound kind of like a religious nut about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oneironaut
Yes, but who or what created evolution???:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by d00d989
True who created it? d00d and wtf man don't you have thought hell i belive in evolution but theres gaps in the theory. Theres room for argument so man stfu and stop being such an ass.
L. Ron Hubbard.
you are acting like a 12 year old with your thought process.Quote:
Originally Posted by d00d989
There are no holes in the theory of Evolution.Quote:
Originally Posted by smokingskeleton
Billions of years ago, when the Earth was VERY different, against all odds, the conditions became perfect for life to be produced. I wont go into detail.
The first reason people still believe that there are God(s) or that we were created by aliens is because they dont believe that our life on earth could be a random accident. The second reason is that until recently, we had no idea how we got here. We had to come up with at least some reason as to how we got here, so people came up with silly ideas like Gods and such.
...what the hell?Quote:
Originally Posted by king kong bong
Sallassie forgives all.....
Lol theres no holes in the theory of evolution? How did it start? What triggered evolution? Did the "Ape" body suddenly think hmm im gunna change myself.
Also if we came from apes why are there still apes around? Shouldnt they be humans? Your an idiot how do you think anything started?
I myself cannot deny evolution completely because that would be just as bad as believing it in whole-heartedly. The fact of the matter is that for the most part it makes sense but there are few flaws in the idea that stand out to me the most. First i dont see how you could believe that something as complex as our DNA evolved from single cell organisms over billions of years. You and me are wired to the teeth with DNA and when you study DNA it starts to see exactly how complex it is and how advanced it is compared to anything we know of. While we're waiting to hear and see signs of intelligence behind interstellar communication, we're ignoring those built into us. The fact that our DNA hasnt evolved makes things ever more strange.
Secondly, evolution is based on the fact that it was begun by spontaneous generation. When you take biology you realize that it infact contradicts it. LIFE COMES FROM LIFE, LIFE DOES NOT COME FROM NON-LIFE WHICH IS THE LAW OF BIOGENESIS! Evolution suggests that the first living cell came from a freak combination of nonliving material,where that nonliving material came from we were not told. Evolution is base]d on the theory that given enough time, the apparently impossible becomes possible.No matter how long it's given, non-life will not become alive. Its plain and simple!
Third, the scientiffic method can only test existing data.....it cannot draw conclusions about origins. To prove the possibility of anything, science must be able to reproduce exact original conditions. Since nobody was alive during this supposed time the conclusions they come to are merely based on present information.
Last but not least, The dating methods that evolutionists rely upon to assign millions and billions of years to rocks are very inconsistent when it comes down to it. Dating methods use radioactive decay assuming that the decay rates have always been and remained constant, WRONG! Many laboratory tests have show that they infact do not stay constant. What's not commonly known is that the majority of dates are not even consistent for the same fucking rock
This has always been something that interested me and i believe all you should dabble a bit in the research as you are a blessed generation with the internet, information up the ying yang! Dont use the internet to rot your head with garbage(myspace lol) use it to better yourself with the knowledge it provides you with, and learn how to decipher the garbage from the gold!
this thread is result of sooo many years and sooo many drugs:)
Well said C4n4bliss.
I don't know. I just think about things and I know our society uses so many paradigms to explain things, many of which include a chink of fabrication that ends up making the whole thing false. Don't believe half of what you see and none of what you hear. Put a fork in me, I'm done!-Lou Reed
I never liked scientific methods because it will break something down, analyze it to death, put it back together, and then come up with an answer.That may work for most things but science made the bad desicion of trying to tackle the unexplainable and labeling it with ideas that dont add up. To me the method is flawed especially when they try and put theories on the origin of life. I believe that not everything can be answered that easy and science proves it. You know how many scientific beliefs have been proven to be false??? Science is flawed but i understand how grounded it is in today society and our knowledge grows by the day so who knows, maybe some bright guy will actually put the right label on the origin of life and prove me wrong, who knows. Time will tell the story better than i ever could!
im just stoned and cant really be arsed for this no more.
but we are not from space.
Humans cannot deal with knowledge in absolutes, stay open minded!!!
I am waiting for the evolutionists in here to comment on what i laid out!
Religious nut? I am an atheist, mind you. Evolution is not a religion, it is scientific fact (keep in mind that in science the word "theory" just means a set of facts used to explain a phenomenon). Why do you doubt that man evolved from apes? Have you studied evolution? Have you looked at the fossil record and the distribution of primate fossils in Africa? I think if you seriously studied this stuff you would come to the same conclusion that I did. Please, go to a library and read a couple books about the overwhelming body of evidence in the fossil record and in our genes. It takes a certain amount of scientific knowledge to understand it, but there is basically no doubt that all the available evidence points to the evolution of man from the great ape family of primates. Don't just speculate—study.Quote:
Originally Posted by minnesota man
myspace is the antichrist....
I'm not calling you a religious nut. I said you kind of sound like one. I understand how you to offense to that and I apologize.
Do you have a better way of obtaining knowledge about the universe? The basic fact is, we have to use the available evidence and work with logic to understand the universe. Science may not be perfect (since humans are not perfect), but it is the best we have to accomplishing that goal and it has done more to improve the condition of mankind than, well, anything else really.Quote:
Originally Posted by C4nn4Bliss
What is up with this anti-science fad lately? If you don't like science, stay out of the fucking hospitals, because all that modern medicine is the product of science. For that matter, get off your fucking computer and stop paying your electricity bills, since the technology behind computers and power plants is the result of science too. And give up all your possessions, since the factories which manufactured them could not have operated without the laws of physics as revealed by science. We can all go back to the 1300s and die of plagues while praying to God to cure us. Oh, if only we could live without this oppressive scientific method!
thanks jimmy neutron but i welcome the dark ages...
Way to state the obvious and rant about it! I said......Quote:
Originally Posted by Oneironaut
Science is flawed but i understand how grounded it is in today society and our knowledge grows by the day so who knowsQuote:
Science is flawed but i understand how grounded it is in today society and our knowledge grows by the day so who knows
That may work for most things but science made the bad desicion of trying to tackle the unexplainable and labeling it with ideas that dont add up
No shit everything around us was acquired by science, my point is tackling the theory of origin of life with science is flawed, no there isnt better methods but does that mean you want to believe in something you know isnt right just because there isnt a better way to explain it?!??! Not smart! Not wise! Definatly not something you want to preach/teach about because it makes you look like a dumbass IMO. You comment on my second post but you clearly avoid my first. Why is that???