Should all drugs be legalised?

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Originally Posted by ShWeave

First of all...All drugs can't be legal. Marijuana is the only other drug that isn't legal that should be legal. Everything else is to easy to abuse, people would be tripping balls and try to drive to McDonalds. Dont try to tell me that they wont because people are retarded and someone will.

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You think drug users don't drive under the influence anyways? They do it now, and they'd do it even if the drugs were legal but driving while tripping was still not tolerated. Criminals don't care about the law. That's why they're criminals.

Personally, I think we need to abandon the automobile system of transportation and focus on making high-tech public transportation systems that are less deadly and more efficient. But as long as we still rely on cars, no amount of legislation is going to stop idiots from doing stupid things. Just look at how many people drink and drive. Are you really suggesting that alcohol should be made illegal, and that alcohol prohibition would decrease the number of drunk drivers? You did say that marijuana is the only drug that should be legal. So that means making illegal things like alcohol, tobacco, caffeine, cough syrup, opium-derived painkillers, and other mind-altering drugs.

Mary jane and shrooms, legalize.

America the "Free" Country? Last time i checked i think we have more fuckin laws then any one else.. and theres 11 people runnign this country, not us.

if they were all legalized, why would you exclude heroine it is less addictive than nicotine, and far less addictive than coke. in fact alcohol is more addictive than heroine. dont believe me look it up. if i ever get the opportunity to do heroine im jumping on it. i used to say no, but now i say make them all legal to 18 year olds, by then you should be smart enough to be able to know how to recreationally use a drug, and if youre not, good riddance. and if was found giving hard shit to kids, severe punishment must be inflicted.

actually i just looked it up again, it is considered as addictive as nicotine. nonetheless i will blame the person not the drug in 90% of cases. unless someone physically restrains you and forces you to do a drug, it is your choice. i dont believe in peer pressure, but i do believe in weak willed pussies trying to fit in

Why only 90%? I doubt 10% are cases where somebody was forced to take the drug against their will. If you consciously do a drug, you are responsible for all your behavior while on the drug. End of story.

I hear about people getting ten plus years for what seems to be no crime at all, but I'm just having a hard time believing it.

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Originally Posted by ShWeave

First of all...All drugs can't be legal. Marijuana is the only other drug that isn't legal that should be legal. Everything else is to easy to abuse, people would be tripping balls and try to drive to McDonalds. Dont try to tell me that they wont because people are retarded and someone will.

Its just dumb to even say that drugs that can make you flip out and think everyone is agaisnt you and you end up killing someone.......it would defiantly happen. I agree that people should be able to take whatever they want, whenever they want but some people wouldnt be able to handle it, and then when someone dies for the reason i said earlier people would realize and be like "fuck, we made a mistake" and then they would make everything illegal and then crime would rocket.......etc it would just keep happenig like that

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Caffeine kills more americans every year that illegal drugs do. We feed it to our kids(not me), its in soda pop, etc etc. Illegal drugs wouldnt kill the number of people they do kill(about 3400 per year), if they were legal, and the supply to our addicted brothers and sisters were made safely.
Education is the answer. And the freedom to have open discussions without those who are against the phoney war on drugs be targeted as"druggie defenders", and have that spill over into our childrens lives/edication.
An example of that would be.."did you hear about dai*ma? he is for legalizing drugs, we better go save his family from him and his liberal drug friends" and th cops show up, the DARE program is interviewing my kids, etc etc. It's a witch hunt. Dont buy into it.:thumbsup:

dai*ma

Legalize it, don't criticize it.
Legalize it, and I will advertize it.

:D -SUBLIME

Frank Zappa, someone who didnt use drugs but supported legalization tells it like this;

"Tax the churches; make them pay their way; Legalize all drugs and tax them, legalize prostitution and tax that, legalize gambling and tax that. Now if that isnt an answer to the national debt i dont know what is"
Heres my take on it.

Legalize all drugs, since marijuana is the least harmful and most helpful make it available like alcohol and tobacco are today. Sell it in gas stations, conveinence stores, walmart etc. Of course, the age restrictions and limitations would be imposed because this is america and even though you can be 17 and join the army you cant be 18 to get a drink. So the age limit should be 19 IMO.
As for other drugs I would legalize crack/cocaine and heroin and meth only for doctor perscription in controlled amounts. Reducing the doses would most likely be effective in weening addicts from these drugs. Psychoactives like acid shrooms and mescaline should be legalized but sold strictly in designated shops. Sell it in head shops but instead of having the "waterpipe" section off limits put that out front since grass would be legal and make the limited section for the psychoactives.

Also i beleive that if marjuana is legalized that the number of alcoholics and tobacco users will drop considerably because something far better will be available. I only drink beer when im out of weed. I hate drinking. I did it alot when i was in high school but when i hit 20-21 i had maybe a beer or two a month.

PLUS, we all know how well the new taxing will take care of the current deficit. If we legalize marijuana completely, in every state by 2009, the deficit will be almost eliminated by the following year. The reason I say the following year is because there are a LOT of potheads in america. Pot is great!

Having said that, damn i wish i had some! anyone close to florence alabama got anything good? lemme know! lol
peace

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Originally Posted by kbrbudhead

Frank Zappa, someone who didnt use drugs but supported legalization tells it like this;

"Tax the churches; make them pay their way; Legalize all drugs and tax them, legalize prostitution and tax that, legalize gambling and tax that. Now if that isnt an answer to the national debt i dont know what is"
Heres my take on it.

Legalize all drugs, since marijuana is the least harmful and most helpful make it available like alcohol and tobacco are today. Sell it in gas stations, conveinence stores, walmart etc. Of course, the age restrictions and limitations would be imposed because this is america and even though you can be 17 and join the army you cant be 18 to get a drink. So the age limit should be 19 IMO.
As for other drugs I would legalize crack/cocaine and heroin and meth only for doctor perscription in controlled amounts. Reducing the doses would most likely be effective in weening addicts from these drugs. Psychoactives like acid shrooms and mescaline should be legalized but sold strictly in designated shops. Sell it in head shops but instead of having the "waterpipe" section off limits put that out front since grass would be legal and make the limited section for the psychoactives.

Also i beleive that if marjuana is legalized that the number of alcoholics and tobacco users will drop considerably because something far better will be available. I only drink beer when im out of weed. I hate drinking. I did it alot when i was in high school but when i hit 20-21 i had maybe a beer or two a month.

PLUS, we all know how well the new taxing will take care of the current deficit. If we legalize marijuana completely, in every state by 2009, the deficit will be almost eliminated by the following year. The reason I say the following year is because there are a LOT of potheads in america. Pot is great!

Having said that, damn i wish i had some! anyone close to florence alabama got anything good? lemme know! lol
peace

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R.I.P. Frank, and thanks for years of great music.

dai*ma :stoned:

Hell no!!!!!!! that would be the worst idea ever. Only weed should be legal. If they were legalized you would prob have like a 1-10 chance of getting killed by some crack head behind the wheel or somthin. Everybody would be doing drugs like it was goin out of style.

Umm, how does making the fruit forbidden make drug addictions go away? You assume that making drugs legal would be associated with a statistical increase in the number of drug addicts. However, if you actually got off your ass and did your homework, you'd find that drug use goes up when drugs are outlawed! Making the fruit forbidden makes it more tempting.

Throwing drug users in prisons is not as effective as actually treating them like human beings and helping them with their problem. In fact, throwing drug users in prison with a bunch of violent criminals just makes them really violent and angry, which means they're more likely to shoot you when they get back on the streets!

When you make drugs illegal, you don't get rid of them. You just confine them to a black market, where the only way to resolve conflicts is violence. That's why drug users are so often violent criminals. Because they're involved with a black market out of necessity.

I think all drugs should be made legal but to be able to partake in some of the harder ones you should have to do it in a controlled enviorment. The best thing this country could do is end the joke that is the war on drugs, make em legal and tax them to fucking death.

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Originally Posted by FindingTim

MrDevious, I completely agree with your entire system. Marijuana should be legal, but meth and heroin and such should most definitely remain illegal. They are awful for you and almost guarantee a negative shift in ones life. People who try drugs beyond hallucinagins need to have more respect for their bodies.

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Is it not a tad hypocritical for someone who smokes weed to judge others based on their drug of choice? :(

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Originally Posted by Smokey McPot

Hell no!!!!!!! that would be the worst idea ever. Only weed should be legal. If they were legalized you would prob have like a 1-10 chance of getting killed by some crack head behind the wheel or somthin. Everybody would be doing drugs like it was goin out of style.

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Smokey, theyre already doing similar things in europe with heroin addicts i believe. instead of pumping them full of another addictive substance, methadone, they give them controlled amounts which eventually weens them off of it. but in order for them to be in the program they have to meet certain requirements- i.e. having a job, paying your bills on time. basically a stable recovering junky. The ones who still use illegally outside of the controlled program would obviously be treated as an offender but hit with something other than jail time- a chance to get into the program to become less and less dependant. But only a three strikes and youre out kinda thing. Then if you still use illegally then its time to break out the paddywagon. I beleive it would work, but for obvious reasons it probably wouldnt get off the ground here in the states. Its a damn shame. Ive got friends who were and still are addicted to oxycontins and shit like that and they say the methadone is harder to come off of than the pills.

But for the most part i still stand by complete legalization of ganjia. Mark my word; Make it readily available in different kickass varieties, tax it and the deficit would be history in one year- at the most a year and a half. It's logical. First nevada then the rest of the country. I still think alabama would be dead last in completely legalizing the herb. Too many conservative christians think theyre right. Dont get me started on them. I know too many of them. Ive had to interact waaaaaaaaaaayyyy too much with those types. Makes me uneasy about being an alabamian to tell you the honest truth.

Peacelovehappinessandallthatotherbullshit

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Originally Posted by daima

R.I.P. Frank, and thanks for years of great music.

dai*ma :stoned:

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Yessir frank is the man. One of my biggest influences as far as playing goes. Right up there with hendrix. Gosh if only FRANK was around to set this whole big bunch of shit straight. I think he would be our president! Then we really wouldnt have shit to worry about.

Just a little tid bit, i have to tell everyone- i just got an awesome compilation dvd that has a clip from an american talkshow from 1967 where frank was a musical guest. The first song "performed" was "suzy creamcheese". They had to panomime the instruments and vocals so instead of singing the actual lyrics you can clearly see frank mouthing "motherfucker" OVER AND OVER AND OVER again. its damn priceless. Never again will the genius be matched.:rasta:

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Originally Posted by Oneironaut

Umm, how does making the fruit forbidden make drug addictions go away? You assume that making drugs legal would be associated with a statistical increase in the number of drug addicts. However, if you actually got off your ass and did your homework, you'd find that drug use goes up when drugs are outlawed! Making the fruit forbidden makes it more tempting.

Throwing drug users in prisons is not as effective as actually treating them like human beings and helping them with their problem. In fact, throwing drug users in prison with a bunch of violent criminals just makes them really violent and angry, which means they're more likely to shoot you when they get back on the streets!

When you make drugs illegal, you don't get rid of them. You just confine them to a black market, where the only way to resolve conflicts is violence. That's why drug users are so often violent criminals. Because they're involved with a black market out of necessity.

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Spoken like an intelligent human being :thumbsup:

dai*ma:stoned:

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Originally Posted by kbrbudhead

Yessir frank is the man. One of my biggest influences as far as playing goes. Right up there with hendrix. Gosh if only FRANK was around to set this whole big bunch of shit straight. I think he would be our president! Then we really wouldnt have shit to worry about.

Just a little tid bit, i have to tell everyone- i just got an awesome compilation dvd that has a clip from an american talkshow from 1967 where frank was a musical guest. The first song "performed" was "suzy creamcheese". They had to panomime the instruments and vocals so instead of singing the actual lyrics you can clearly see frank mouthing "motherfucker" OVER AND OVER AND OVER again. its damn priceless. Never again will the genius be matched.:rasta:

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Your feelings towrds Frank are the same feelings i Have towards Jerry Garcia
Great musicans stir emotions, and they were both great musicians:thumbsup:

dai*ma
Sugar Magnolias
Blossoms blooming
Heads all empty and i dont care
I saw my baby down by the river
I knew she'd have to come up soon for air
Fucking sweet lyrics:dance:

She come screaming through rays of violet
She can wade in a drop of dew
She dont come and i dont follow
She waits back stage while i sing for you...sweet:thumbsup:

She's got everything delightful
She's got everything i need
She takes the wheel when i'm see'in double
She pays my ticket when i speed:D