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Originally Posted by hellomandude
But it is even more RETARDED!!! if you can't tell the difference between a loaded and unloaded gun.
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Originally Posted by hellomandude
But it is even more RETARDED!!! if you can't tell the difference between a loaded and unloaded gun.
as someone else said, the gun cant fire with the breech openQuote:
Originally Posted by tadaa
also...
THE SMOKE WOULDNT FUCKING GO THROUGH IF THERE WAS A SHELL IN THE CHAMBER.
there... glad i got that out.
tadaa why are you so vehemently against this...are you some sort of anti-2nd ammendmant guy? wahts the deal huh? HUH??? HUUUHHH????
You guys are just trippin' over some dumb shit.Like if they accidently blew there heads off it would affect you anyway besides being another statistic in your arguments.
Apparently you haven't read any of my other posts concerning guns. I'm a conservative mostly, I'm all for guns. However, putting one in your mouth is fucking stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by stangle12
that must be the quote of the thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zentetsuken
That vid was cool!!!
that video was badass, you dont like it dont do it then for christ sake, but tell me why you feel the need to bitch about it?
NAM was fucking stupid so they go hand in hand palQuote:
Originally Posted by tadaa
Ok, here's the thing about those guys.
1. They ALL know how to handle their weapons. They did it every day and their lives depended on it.
2. When you pump a shotgun till no more shells eject, you can see light coming through the barrell, and you can stick the pipe into the barrell, and when you blow smoke out the end, NOTHING can be in the barrell.
3. Those guys deserved to do what they wanted to. They had to kill or be killed. They went through more hell than most could dream of.
I have had my Hunter Safety Course that my state requires to buy a hunting license and I have handled guns since I was about 8... I think I shot my first .20 ga at that age. God it kicked. It was a single shot break action.
I have shot many different things, animals and inanimate objects and i have probably used guns in an improper way before but I DO KNOW WHAT I AM DOING. Now for the average person to stick a shot gun barrell into their mouth without having checked it first themselves is stupid. I would however trust my father to unload a gun FOR me.
Now i hate to say it but that whole shotgun trick can be accomplished with a simple piece of 1 in PVC pipe purchased from Lowe's or Home Depot. If you really wanna feel like you're taking a hit out of a real shotgun barrell right Remington on it and go smoke another bowl. LOL...
Also many of the "accidental" shooting deaths that take place are in improper and totally WRONG hunting situations. Such as running deer and shooting TOWARDS another person. You might be surprised how many people do stupid shit like that.
hmm, ok some guy is taking weed smoke from a device used to kill people and you say they shouldn't even be soldiers because of this? this is the point of soldiers, to point guns at people, the shells were gone, and even more importantly, even if there was a shell in it, the fashion in which this is done (even tho i've never seen it done with this type of shotgun, always just a break-away double barrell) it would make it literally 100% impossible to shoot yourself, since the stem of the pipe couldn't even fit in the barrell if the shell was loaded and cocked, all ready to fire.Quote:
Originally Posted by tadaa
Thank you for taking the time out of your day to question every single of the 900 accidental gun deaths and, through your immense research, surmise that these were all due to people believing the gun wasn't loaded. Actually, the correct mean of deaths every year in the United States is 762 (taken from a 2002 estimate). See, when you don't research things, and throw out a ballpark number that isn't true, no one has a reason to believe anything else you say. Haven't you ever heard of an accidental discharge? There are times when the person knows the gun is loaded, and doesn't intend on shooting it, but accidents happen. I believe that people in war have more of a chance of dying from the enemy than from smoking marijuana through a shotgun.Quote:
Originally Posted by tadaa
Personally, I think it would be very hard to mess this up. Really, truly improbably. Not saying it hasn't happened, but I truly believe that if someone died of accidental discharge from taking a shotgun hit in war, chances are they would have died, IN WAR, anyways. Anyone ever see the movie platoon? The way it was done in that movie looks like a very simple process.
What I used here in this argument is called tact. People are more willing to believe you when you use it. When you are condescending and constantly use expletives, people will only see you as a jackass, which I believe you have made yourself out to be. Express your opinions as best as you can so that others may see how you feel, but don't be a jackass about it. That doesn't help anybody.
http://www.nsc.org/lrs/statinfo/odds.htm
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/tact
You're a moron. There's more than one source as to how many accidental gun deaths there are each year, and exactly how that particular source classifies a "accidental" gun death.Quote:
Originally Posted by graph
I mean come on, look how stupid I'm making 90% of the people in this thread look. I'm the ONLY one arguing that putting a gun in your mouth is stupid, everyone else is all for it. It's not hard to figure out who's the idiot(s).
You think you're right. I think you're a jackass. How many people agree?
Oh, and as for my information, there are more than one sites. Had you taken the time to look you would have seen that. Smart people research, stupid people put down others' research without researching themselves.
http://www.econ.umd.edu/~duggan/gunshows3.pdf
http://www.politicalgateway.com/main...d.html?col=479
http://armsandthelaw.com/archives/20...oday_accid.php
http://college.hmco.com/english/reso...ase_study.html
I have found no source that gives the number to be 900 that is later than 1998. It wasn't 900 in 1998, though, it was 825, but these sites obviously rounded up. They all classify accidental gun death as a non-intentional death by firearm.
actually i hate to burst both of your bubbles but there is no way that all the accidental gun deaths could be tracked to an exact number... any reports you see are just the ones reported, on top of that media (along with all other sources of public information) are subject to getting mis information, think back to the first mine explosion/collapse or w/e the fuck it was just about a month ago, one slight slip of mis-information led most of the men's families to believe they're spouses were still alive, when in fact they weren't. there's absolutely no way you can give an exact number of how many accidental shootings there were, nor can you give an exact number of any circumstances involved (gun loaded but the person didn't think so, gun loaded accidently discharged, and so on) any time you hear "blah blah blah, in such and such state/country, in the past however many days/months/years" that is pure speculation/estimate and so on, becuase there is no way every single gun related injury is reported, and at that reported correctly... yal two can go on arguing about it if you like, but all you're getting down to now is matters of opinion/speculation, because like i said, it'd literally be impossible to give an exact number of anything...
as a matter of pure example, so and so got out on parole has strict orders not to have a gun, he's showing his buddy and his buddy gets shot, there's a chance that story will never come to light and all that will be reported is that the buddy was showing off his new gun when he shot himself with it... of course if all circumstances were like that then the estimates would be accurate, but i think anyone with half a brain cell can get what i'm trying to get at with that point.
Could not have said it better! My lover is a veitnam vet and one did what one had to do to survive at the time. It's not like there was a head shop right around the corner. Their guns were their lovers, best friends and they took care of each other.:) :stoned:Quote:
Originally Posted by m4ster chef
Oh yeah, of course I know that. A statistic over a large medium is never entirely accurate. I was trying to disprove the theory that all 900 deaths in the United States due to accidental death by firearm had to do with the thought that the gun wasn't loaded. Tadaa went off on a tangent, and I felt the need to prove my sources.
Oh, and by the way, Tadaa, I spotted the idiot right away. It's always easy to tell who the idiot is, look for the one that has resorted to expletives and condescending statements. Thanks for showing everyone who the real idiot here is.
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Originally Posted by tadaa
You must not know much about vietnam. Those guys were terrified and they needed to relax. They were constantly scared of viet cong popping out of trees and tunnels and shooting them. Also the fact that marijuana, hash, herion, opium and maybe a few others were VERY easy to get in Nam. I know people who have nightmares from being in that war.
hopefully weve heard the last of tadaa
My honey says right on dude but sorry no hash. He has nightmares too sometimes.:) :stoned:Quote:
Originally Posted by Smokey McPot
i don't believe in war (not protesting either i know i'm never going to change a basic human instinct) but i do feel really sorry for all of those who've experienced what they have, and for the families who've lost loved ones.... i coudln't imagine what it woudl be like to be just walking around doing your "job" then all of a sudden you've got mortars, tank rounds, massive machine gun fire and god knows what else coming right at you... yea i think even taking a 'shotgun' from a loaded and cocked shotgun would be the last of my worries about right then... to graph yes i know, i was just making my point as well, somtimes you just have to be the better man and step down because some 'idiots' just won't give up til they're proved 100% wrong or they go to their deathbed. by your posts i can tell your mature enough to understand this, just a friendly reminder that it's better to just give up sometimes then keep arguing with idiots who think they know everything.
I think the idea of using a gun to smoke is kinda cool, wouldn't do it, but it does make way for a great pic (sorry I'm into photography, so I think of stuff like this)
... the smoking gun
It seems to me that is your objective. Are you insecure about your own intelligence or what?Quote:
I mean come on, look how stupid I'm making 90% of the people in this thread look.
or from friendly fire which seems to be happening a lot these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by graph
Are you fucking stupid? I'm the only one saying that IT IS STUPID TO PUT A GUN IN YOUR MOUTH.Quote:
Originally Posted by eddievanzant
Everyone else says it's a good idea, gee, I wonder who the morons are...
you're still missing the point, the dude took all the shells out of the gun, then ontop of that as i already stated, even if there as a shell in cocked and loaded, it would be impossible to shoot yourself...Quote:
Originally Posted by tadaa
i really don't understand how something so simple has turned into all this... these dudes are being shot at day by day... like i said, i'm sure the shotgun going off while doing this is going to be the least of their worries...
oh yes, i watched the video... and it does look pretty sweet.. if i had a shotgun i'd do it that way, that's alot of fucking smoke...
Jesus Christ, how many firemarms do you own? I already said that my grandpa had a broken shotgun that I got from him that fired in the manner you're claiming is impossible. Guns break, they malfunction, especially guns in vietnam if you know anything about the newly introduced firearms in that war.Quote:
Originally Posted by slipknotpsycho
Putting a gun, whether loaded or unloaded into your mouth is fucking stupid. Every gun should always be treated as if it's loaded.
This is a fucking pot forum, not a firearm forum. Go to a firearm forum and link to this thread and see what the fuck happens. I'll be the only person that they agree with.
ok yea you're right, the firing pin in the gun is going to go through the stem of the pipe and set off the shotgun shell that somehow fit into a tube made just for it's size when something of a considerable size is already in this tube.. so not only does it have to defy physics once, it has to do it twice, first the shell has to find it's way into the barrel which is pretty much the same diameter of the barrell, even tho something is blocking the clear path for it to enter this tube, then, after it defys all logic and physics, the firing pin of the gun has to go through the stem of the pipe to set it off (tho there is a small chance that the firing pin could just hit the stem of the pipe and if the stem happened to have a raised part right at the spot where the firing pin hits the shell,, but that's like so unlikely we'll just exempt it)
yea of course this isn't how guns should be handled and it could be dangerous... but fuck, there are a hell of alot more dangers all around you then an unloaded, uncocked shotgun, you're trying to make this whole thing seem like it's super-ignorant/dangerous.. which it's not.... find me an online report where it says even one person died by getting shot by the gun being used while doing this...
Tadaa, at first you had a point before other people who knew much about guns came on and pwned you. You are wrong and you are needlessly insulting people, and that makes me believe you're insecure about your own intelligence.
rofl i think someone stuck a shotgun up tadaa's asshole.
bitchy bitchy bitchy
haha
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Originally Posted by tadaa
why you gotta insult someone that is confident in what they are doing, be it stupid or not??? you sound like an immature little bitch IMO why dont you just drop it cause you are getting bent over and fucked in this thread. Youve made your point now shut the fuck up!
funny you bring that up i was about to post maybe hes just gun shy from SOMETHING going off in his faceQuote:
Originally Posted by d00d989
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You people do realize that you can effectively use the shotgun technique with out a firearm? In fact this weekend my buddies and I used a digeradoo to great effect! There is no reason to use a weapon as it will only leave residue inside the barrel which you'll have to clean out. I'm not saying that if you use this technique with an actual shotgun you're going to get your head blown off, just that there are plenty of other options to reach the desired result! Be creative. Not stupid.
lol@ me being wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by eddievanzant
So what you're saying is that it's a good idea to put a gun in your mouth?
Actually I'm 100% correct because I'm stating 2 things, please stay with me because it's obvious a lot of you in here don't have much of an education
1. Putting a gun in your mouth is stupid
2. Shotguns can malfunction, and it is possible for a shotgun to fire with the breach open given the right type of malfunction, I have seen it in person.
You know what, hold on a sec, I'm gonna post this on glock talk so I can embarass all of you, I will post the link to the thread.
this guy^^^^^^
putting a unloaded gun inyour mouth isnt stupid, is the gun itself gonna kill you? no its the fucking bullets that do
Shotguns can malfunction but whats your point?? you wouldnt smoke out of it with a shell in there anyways!
you may think we have problems for thinking this is alright but you sir have problems for getting so bitchy and pissy over it. What do you have to prove here??? fuck off already kid
Just wait, we will see what my peers that actually have a clue about firearms have to say. Nice quote in your sig by the way, but you have it backwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by C4nn4Bliss
really and how is it backwards,
id rather be carried by 6(6 people carry your casket) then judged by 12(jury of your peers)
you are one ignorant opinionated fucker arent you?
momma not give you enough attention???
fuck it! i'd smoke from a shotgun! that be pretty cool!:smokin: :thumbsup:
http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...33#post1919533
There it is, now lets see what happens.
Actually no, the saying is I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6, meaning that you would rather defend your life with your gun than be killed by someone trying to harm you.Quote:
Originally Posted by C4nn4Bliss
http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...33#post1919533
Anyways keep checking out the link I just posted for your embarassments.