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Howdy Miss Green,Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Green
I believe that all wars are inhumane.
The Security Council of the UN,authorized the use of force against saddam,in order to git him to comply with existing UN resolutions,therefore-it's a legal war. Also,our forces were under constant attack in the NO-FLY zones,therefore our defense of such,was legal.
Have a good one ...
Howdy Fengzi,Quote:
Originally Posted by Fengzi
Lol..well..I thought that you were being sarcastic..but just in case:thumbsup:
Besides,it gave me an opportunity to speak up for our troops:thumbsup:
Saddam and sons,were a direct threat to Israel and to the oil supply,that we are forced to depend on from the middle-east,because of our enviro-nazi's here. Either we fix things over there..or else Israel will be forced to take much more serious measures..in order to defend their country from the enemies that surround them.
Have a good one ! :stoned:
What lies? Saddam had WMD, the whole world knew it. Besides, the burden of proof is not ours but his. That's the way the law and UN resolutions were written. Saddam is solely to blame.
Damn, I had no part in this conversation, but even I'm highly offended after the first three sentences, and refuse to read the rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Green
She just loves to point the finger.....I have an idea for it but thats another issue. She should address the lovely little things about her own country like the genocide of the Australian Aboriginal natives, or their involvement in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq...both wars. How about the wheat for oil scandle that she loves to never post about. :stoned:Quote:
Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs
Australia
a nation populated by the descendants of deported criminals which has half the crime of the country that deported them.
from: the Devil's Dictionary http://sedition.com/ddx/l/a.html
:dance:
Kill them all .... let God sort them out ...
Here's another good one!:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
Democrat
1. an American Communist.
2. one who practices bestiality, witchcraft, and sponsors public pornography; a drug user; alt spelling, Demoncrat.
It is scarey how similar the Dem's platform and the Communist platform are.
Picture is worth a thousand words!:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by mont974x4
LMAO
I'm offended that you and we are commiting war crimes and you can refuse to read the rest of my posting but it's the truth i'm sorry you can't handle that.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs
Hans blix asked for 3mths more to see if he could find this "weapons of mass destruction" but the un refuse so I don't see how it was legal and they wouldn't be getting fired on if they weren't there in the first place.If you believe that all wars are inhumane then why on earth would you be supporting this?:confused: :what:Quote:
Originally Posted by Torog
Psycho4Bud]She just loves to point the finger.....I have an idea for it but thats another issue. She should address the lovely little things about her own country like the genocide of the Australian Aboriginal natives, or their involvement in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq...both wars. How about the wheat for oil scandle that she loves to never post about. :stoned:
Oh I see here you are a bit more smarter than what I thought well you think about your "idea" and I can't wait to see it! Yeah not a problem mate I'll address the issue that is obiviously on your mind:
http://famous.adoption.com/famous/au...-children.html
http://www.britains-smallwars.com/Vietnam/AATTV.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2003/s829608.htm
http://eherald.alp.org.au/articles/0206/natp20-01.php
And what about what you did to your own Native American and Alaskan Native
http://www.ndnnews.com/Genocide%20on...0Americans.htm
so there you go psycho I know what my country is or has done and it's shameful a disgrace to australia but at least I can admit what my country has done.Enjoy your reading.:thumbsup:
Both our countries have treated the natives unjust! We called it "manifest destiny". Fancy name for a bad agenda.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Green
You would have to agree that with the mistakes that BOTH our countries have made we would finally grow out of it.....SOMEDAY!!:thumbsup:
My point is this...being from Australia I kind of feel you could enlighten us a little more as to what your gov. is playing...hell...everyone in the world knows about the dealings of our government, just like to see some "ball busting" on some others for a change.
Have a good one!:thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by Miss Green
Regarding Native Americans and Eskimos: The United States did NOT try to "exterminate........by poisoning and shooting". This is totally false. If we had done this, there wouldn't be any around today.
There were wars between the U.S. Government and tribes, renegades, and outright criminals from the Native American community, and sometimes the Indains were right - but we did NOT deliberatly use poison against them.
http://famous.adoption.com/famous/au...-children.html
??For several decades from the 1920s to the 1960s, the Australian government operated a deliberate policy of cultural genocide.???.a very similar, if marginally less harsh, policy was operated by the US government against Native American and Alaskan Native Children, and with the same outcome. Both countries had previously tried simply to exterminate their native peoples by poisoning and shooting?
There is the case of the small pox infested blankets......some say it's true, others say it was a honest mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
One of our campaigns was to wipe out the Buffalo in order to choke off their food supply...that is fact.
http://www.thefurtrapper.com/indian_smallpox.htm
From the above web site:
I would be the first to admit that a great many wrongs and tragedies were inflicted upon the American Indians, but a deliberate government policy of killing every Indian is ridiculous. There is no question that the United States Government instituted a policy of cultural genocide against Native American, but there is no evidence for a government policy of ethnic genocide, or total extermination. I challenge you or anyone else to supply one documented example.
Another View on Genocide:
Genocide means killing each and every member of group. The word genocide literally means killing a gene and the way to do that is to kill each and everyone who has that gene. The UN definition of genocide applies even if one member of a group is killed or mistreated. Let??s face it if you use the UN definition of any crime then US is guilty because according to the UN the US is guilty of everything.
This is what genocide really means:
Genocide is an official policy or an accepted policy where.
1. Every member of a certain group is killed in battle whether they surrender or not.
2. Killing every member of a certain group after they surrendered to authorities.
3. Preventing the escape of every member a certain group so they can be killed.
4. Killing any one who is a descendent of a member of a certain group.
5. The use of forced sterilization to prevent members of a certain group from reproducing while they are being held for eventual extermination.
It was German policy to wipe out Jews in battle. It was German policy to kill every Jew who surrendered to German authorities. It was German policy to check people??s back ground and if they had any ??Jewish Blood? and kill them. Jews weren??t allowed to leave countries under German control and attempts were made to return Jews to German control so they could be killed.
Here is what Armenian genocide was like:
1. Able bodied Armenian men were taken into custody and immediately killed or worked to death.
2. Other Armenian groups were taken into custody and immediately killed.
3. Then the remaining Armenians were taken on a death march and executed.
None of the above was U.S. policy or happened on a regular basis. There was never an attempt to kill each and every Indian. When were Indians prevented from leaving the U.S.? When were Indians peacefully living among white people rounded up and killed just because they were Indians? None of those things happened.
The use of the word genocide to mean anything other then the systematic attempt by one group to kill every member of another group is insulting to people like Jews and Armenians who really suffered from genocide.
One of my ancestors, a 6th great grandfather, was Captain Peter West, born in Martha??s Vineyard, and died of smallpox at Ft. Edward, NY, in Oct. 1757 - the result, no doubt, of contact with the infected blankets that were being distributed to the Indians as a way to eliminate them. :thumbsup:
45. PETER WEST .b. at Tisbury 21 July 1718, and d. of smallpox at Fort Edward, N.Y. 30 Oct. 1757 Peter lived at Tisbury and is said to have been a farmer or a shipwright. His claim to distinction rests on his military service, especially during the French and Indian War. Banks wrote, "he rendered distinguished service in the Crown Point Expedition of 1756 as captain of a company in Col. Thatcher' s Regiment and later in the regiment of Col. Zacheus Mayhew. In the campaign of the following year he was garrisoned at Fort Edward, N.Y., taking part in the hostilities and d. there. . . " Elsewhere Banks made further comment, although repeating some of the above information, "Perhaps the finest figure during this long series of campaigns was Captain Peter West of Tisbury . Hr is described as possessed of a splendid physique and became an ideal officer of dauntless courage. It is probable that he was a soldier in the Louisburg Campaign of 1745, but we first know of his military service of a certainty in 1755, when he was attached to a regiment raised in the mainland for the early campaigns in the long struggle. His services were mostly in the New York expeditions, Crown Point and Ticonderoga, but his fortune was to die in battle, where his military valor would have led him".
http://history.vineyard.net/franwest.htm#peter25
25. PETER WEST, (Abner,3 Thomas,2 Francis1), b. 21 July 1718; res. T., husbandman; m. Mrs. ELIZABETH (Athearn) (23) CHASE 16 Dec. 1740 (wid. of Thomas (35) ), who was b. 13 Apr. 1715 and d. 2 Sept. 1789. He rendered distinguished services in the Crown Point Expedition 1756 as Captain of a company in Col. Thatcher's Regiment and later in the regiment of Col. Zaccheus Mayhew. In the campaign of the following year he was garrisoned at Fort Edward, N. Y. taking part in the hostilities and d. there of smallpox 30 Oct. 1757. His will 2 Apr. 1756 was pro. 6 Jan. 1758. [See Survey notes.]
http://history.vineyard.net/west.htm
VERY good point!!!:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
Well that's what the aritcle saids so whether you want to take that in or not is up to you.:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
And second of all it doesn't apply to jews it's a religion not a race Breukelen advocaat.This is what genocide means The systematic and planned extermination of an entire national, racial, political, or ethnic group.:thumbsup:
Judaism is a religion. Jews, including many that are not religous, are an ethnic group. If you check medical research sites, you will find that there are certain diseases and conditions, such as ovarian and breast cancers, that are many times higher among Jews than other groups. They are not the only ethnic group that has a higher incidence of certain medical problems or characteristics - most do. In the case of Jews, it is mostly because their gene pool was limited for various reasons - such as societies' not allowing them to breed with people other than Jews.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Green
There are only four "races", and people can have genetic markers from more than one:
Indo-European
Native American
East Asian
African