Howdy GhostToker,
Thanx for your kind words,no offense taken..the way we on the Right view the Left-Right thing,is that what we're really into,is a culture clash of values-not just a clash of differing political ideaology.
Have a good one....Torog
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Howdy GhostToker,
Thanx for your kind words,no offense taken..the way we on the Right view the Left-Right thing,is that what we're really into,is a culture clash of values-not just a clash of differing political ideaology.
Have a good one....Torog
If I could vote, I'd pick the lesser of the two evils and vote for John Kerry...Hell, if it were up to me, the third party would have more power.
I live in Virginia and since I am in the southern part of VA most of the people around here are republicans, some of my best friends are republicans born and raised and plenty of them smoke weed, have long hair, and have sex. Around here there is a always a mentality to deffend your honor and stand for what you believe in. There is another thing called respect, and saying that someone's political stance means that they rape women and cause teenage pregnency is not only disrespectful but immature. I know kids that are 14 and know better then to say that kind of bullshit. Most liberals are for abortion so that pregnancy will be your daughters to deal with when she goes out for a night on the town with one of your good ole' boys from the texas military reserve ;). I know your smart and you've had more experience in life then I have (you can probably spell better then my dyslexic ass too :-\) and I respect you for that, but you're talking to another adult. I would like to debate you on more civil terms. Just joking about your daughter, I'd never mean a thing like that. I bet you raised her fine.Quote:
there was no way in heck,that I was gonna raise my daughter under liberal values..it paid off-because she didn't git mixed up with drugs,she didn't git pregnant or raped by boys raised under liberal values..she has a solid,basic sense of right and wrong-not polluted by amoral,debaucherous values of the Left.
" There is another thing called respect, and saying that someone's political stance means that they rape women and cause teenage pregnency is not only disrespectful but immature. "
Today's stance by the democrappers,does lead to awful behaviour and bad characters,it's also a matter of the state of mind,the liberal mind-set,which is ruled by emotion and enslaved to it's desires and impulses..logic and common sense,are loathed,despised,ridiculed and viewed as a weakness-instead of a virtue-by the liberal mind-set.
America,is deep in the grips of a culture war..the Left is intent on imposing amoral secularism on America,believing that destroying all that is moral,is somehow 'freeing' Americans..from the 'chains' of Bible based morality(Judeo-Christian values).
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" There is another thing called respect, and saying that someone's political stance means that they rape women and cause teenage pregnency is not only disrespectful but immature. "
Today's stance by the democrappers,does lead to awful behaviour and bad characters,it's also a matter of the state of mind,the liberal mind-set,which is ruled by emotion and enslaved to it's desires and impulses..logic and common sense,are loathed,despised,ridiculed and viewed as a weakness-instead of a virtue-by the liberal mind-set.
America,is deep in the grips of a culture war..the Left is intent on imposing amoral secularism on America,believing that destroying all that is moral,is somehow 'freeing' Americans..from the 'chains' of Bible based morality(Judeo-Christian values).
You're the most one sided person I have ever talked with. By the way you argue it seems like you must watch Bill o'Reily and beat off. Republicans spin things, pervert them, and leave out information to make comments used by the opposing side seem like horrible words against god or treason to the nation. You're no different. Democrats aren't a horrible cast of monsters like you seem to think they are, they seem to have a little more common sense and care about others more then republicans care about their wealth and themselves. Yep you hit the nail on the head right there, democrats want to ruin the country and turn us into a bunch degenerates, espicailly that bastard clinton. He was such a fucking degenerate that he was responsible for almost 6 million new jobs in his first 2 years in office, and an average of 250,000 new jobs every month. Because of the 1993 economic plan Clinton cut taxes on 15 million low income families and made tax cuts available to 90 percent of small buisnesses well raising taxies on only 1.2 percent of the wealthiest tax payers. Made the largest deficit reduction plan in history resulting in over $600 billion in deficit reduction. Put over 100,000 more police officers in the streets and gave 1,200 communities grants to hire 27,000 additional officers. Banned 19 different kinds of deadly assult weapons well keeping the hunters rights by exempting 650 kind of rifiles. Made large improvements on gay rights which is much more then the nearly queer-bashing Bush family could say. I guess since he stood for gay rights that would make him one of the librel queers in your eyes right? The sex scandal? Many great presidents have had scandals, say, Ronald Reagan (whom I would happily defened in an argument), remember the whole Iran-contra scandal? Oh Kennedy and Marylin Manroe as (I like Kennedy alot, I think he's pretty hardcore :cool: ) well. In the eyes of the left, the republicans are greedy, facist, aggresive, selfish, single-minded, conceited, foolish, intolerant, and warmongers. For someone your age you have alot of growing up to do. Suck a dick.
If you want to read about Clinton then http://www.perkel.com/politics/clinton/accomp.htm < go here.
Bundy was a Republican who would have taken delight in savagely beating your daughter to death.Quote:
Originally Posted by Torog
ya, what do I hate about Bush? That he hasnt gone harder on the Islaamic Fundamentalists. He has to delegate with all these liberals, who are probably more socialist but just too lame to know it (always wantin the free hand out) defending our right to defend ourselves against a sworn enemy.
the day Kerry gets elected president, is when all the jihad extremists will be in the streets of Tehran shooting their ak-47's in the air in a act of celebration!
so I guess the only hate I have for Bush is the fact that more 'efficient' tactics havent been used to add to the body count.
who wants a repeat of 9/11, the fighting in the phillipines, al-qaeda faithful followers assassinating the president of pakistan; a nuclear power and electing 1 of their own clerics, the russian school that has been talked about so much lately or the slaughter of Christians by Islaamic terrorists in Africa?
but just my opinion.
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Originally Posted by Humboldt215
Just my opinion but this guys got it exactly right
What you guys really want is Woodrow Wilson type expansionism. You are just blood thirsty liberals.(ie Neo-Conservatives like Bush or as I like to say, not real conservatives) You love to throw the word 'socialism' around as if it were a dirty word. Then you complain that the government isn't spending enough on boosting Halliburton's stock. (Corporate-Welfare)
Learn the history of the region and it becomes obvious that it has been completely screwed over by western powers over the past 150 years. Those people have every right to pissed off. If they weren't they wouldn't be human.
The argument is completely philosophical in nature. If you think that powerful countries have a right to take from smaller ones and impose their culture on whomever they please, than it follows that G.W is a fine Emperor.
hey, I was just complimenting socialism the other day :)
Sorry sedator, that was specifically for the guy two posts back and the guy who agreed with him. Those guys buy into all of the fear mongering of the nazi-right, because the are to lazy to read anything. And if they do, its only to support their hideous doctrine . (Most of them repeat Bill Riley's mindless propaganda verbatim.) They love America because they are American and if they had been born in Saudi Arabia that would be shouting 'Down with America'.
I don't really consider myself a socialist, but if we are going to be a tax and spend society, better that money be done to do good, not evil.
Actually, I would prefer a society with very little government...Somewhat like the one the founding fathers set up. Back then it was illegal for the federal government to even fund a road. They certainly could not have conceived the drug war, motorcycle helmet laws, seatbelt laws or any other law that makes something that isn't a crime a crime.
I dont like him because he's spending to large an amout on military buget, rahte rthen feedin and clothing poor childdren in iraq, he's spenidng cash on bombs which land here and thier aroound impoversed areas of iraq.
Trades blood for oil.
WANTS TO MAKE BONGS ILLEGAL.
Tryign to pull us cunnuks into the war. Teh trygin to bully us into teh war.
Claiming to be a catholic, while the pope and vadican are completely opposed to the war.
Lying to his own people.
Cheateing his was into office in an election that he didnt actually win!!
Blinding thosands wiht patriotic remarks.
And lookin liek a monkey. :eek:
he he, looking like a monkey lol.
I kno sumone in machester, where are u from in the U.K?
If my memory serves me correct, Farenheit 9/11 was analyzed for any false information and accusations, and this was before the movie ever came out. Michael Moore basis his "documentary" on facts, not assumptions. Torog, it seems like you know what you're talking about, but you are too ignorant to other peoples perspectives, which in my opinion is quite immature, no offense. Some people like Bush, some people dislike Bush, accept the truth!Quote:
Originally Posted by Torog
Bush seems to value human life as much as the islamic extriemist. As Immortal Technique said "Bush and Osama are just two seperate parts of the same seven headed dragon." Not only does he invade Iraq illegally he then feels he has the right to go ahead and make fun of the whole situation. While are soliders are still over there getting killed. http://www.muchosucko.com/video-duby...dupcomedy.html I would like a leader who can at least make an attempt to protect me from harm instead of puting me and the men and women who choose to protect this country with there own lives in harms way.
Bush is destroying America. You can't believe a word he says and his acts against those who oppose his ideology are pretty clear. He sucks. Send him to Bagdad.
Me? no im from Straya. In your langauge thats Australia. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by The C
Well said omun!Quote:
Originally Posted by Omun
He wouldn't go, nor would he send his daughters if they were in the service. But he's all for jumping the gun and fighting when he personally has nothing to lose. I think Bush is in a totally different world sometimes. He doesn't ever want to admit when he is wrong or doesn't even seem to understand it sometimes. It doesn't seem like he even understands the average american.Quote:
Originally Posted by stonebears
its the dishonest dubya lying action figure doll!
http://www.kaicurryservices.com/peac...ishonestdubya/
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You are a asshole!
you know you love me :p
You have to hide what many see from those that might say, he's got a point. Your parents must be proud. In their small trailor w/ the 3 dogs. Or you feel off the bus. Whatever the reason, I can help clear your nowhere path....
For doing your best to protect my family from those wanting to cut my head off just because I have a difference on religion. For going after them first before they grow stronger to some day, wipe our great planet with a WMD. For taking the fight to them instead of having my home land in defense mode 24/7 and allowing me to know when my wife and daughter goes to the mall, they will in most case return. Thanks President Bush for putting a team in place that has the interest on a better tomorrow for my children, and allowing my property to increase in value because we have better living standards that's a demand. Thanks for leading by example on dealing with groups that are geared on hate, such as the Dem Liberal party, even when they cheat, steal and lie just to gain a vote from the public; you sir are a true leader. Thanks President Bush for not folding like France, Spain and the UN (which is under investigation for that food for oil issue) to special interest groups. And for being decent. My respect goes to Mrs. Bush as well.
In closing, I realize there are issue that need work on, and I know you are doing what you can to change these things as fast as possible. I also realize your plate is filled with the defense of our Nation. Our economy is at a record level, home ownership has NEVER been this high and the poverty level is the lowest ever too. I wouldn't even say the poverty is poverty, since ALL of them have a place to stay, over 80% own their own car, have cable, have heat and air. Have a phone and free hospital care. Compared to a 3rd. world country, the poor people here are loving like kings!
Liberalism is a disease and no country can last for to long with them in control. Thanks President Bush for working behind the seems on eliminating this 'colt' by allowing more people to see them as they really are. It has been noted that people are leaving the Dem party in record levels because their starting to see how they were hijacked over the last 8 plus years, by special agenda politicians such as Kerry (a billionaire).
Thank you sir, each day I thank GOD we have a commander and chief with honor and respect for this country I am proud of, The United States of America......
I've noticed a recurring theme among some of your posts.. I like to call it The Low Blow.. if anyone, disagrees with you or with something you believe in, then instead of argueing your point in a reasonable way, you go for The Low Blow.. the low blow is this
The Low Blow is known by many names. Among these names are - 'The Bullshit Blow', the 'I Dont Know A Damn Thing So Im Gonna Quickly Resort To Childish Insults' move, or the 'If You Dont Agree With Me Then You Obviously Live In A Trailor, And Have No Education, Because Educated People Know Im Right' manuvureQuote:
Originally Posted by HiGuy
HiGuy, im not saying I agree with you on this subject or not, just dont be so immature..
What pisses me off is the lack of debate. Facts aren't good enough. It's people like that (that avoid facts) that put our country in harms reach. This is the reason we aren't moving forward at a faster pace then we should, for the better of our children's sake. A business doesn't succeed when the management team (most of) is focused on non-real issues. Families don't stay together when there's nothing but fighting going on, and debates aren't debates when one side is stead fast on issues not important and avoiding facing the facts. So yes I put these types of people into classes, which we always need the bottom feeders to clean our...... messes. I noticed there are a number of you that don't make any sense, and you all align with the same (Kerry). Wow. I love my country, my world as I know it and see it being jeopardized by the (yes here I go again), limited intelligence. People don't have to be deemed this if they only make sense and seen things as they really are; that's all I ask for.
you want a debate, and yet you resort to childish name calling and stereotyping? grow up
I see lets turn the attention into a different direction; not the FACTS. Got it....
fuck the facts, thats what george taught me.
fuck debate, all those big words.
anyone who likes bush should ahve their head cut off with a hacksaw and shoved up their arse with a hand grenade for a plug.
and the emmy for the low blow goes to-
Wow this place seems to be filled with illogical, only hating life forms. I think I'll see what shit keeps flowing here then move the fuck on from this shit hole of libs. imotep i'd love to use you as the prime example of piece of crap. Can I? You and your anti-American metro-sexually fans....
nothin metro here. i hate hair gel.
mate my idiocy is more logical than yr sense.
kiss my fucking arse yank. youse r gonna take us all to hell.
nothing against most yanks.
except the ones who say nigger and then dont let you say it.
Yanks? Are you attacking the country that is protecting the freedom of your children. What example are you and your country besides kissing ass? If you're not the metro fag, you're a girlie man. In both case's..... Die Fag!
higuy..
where do you think your weed comes from? liberals. so show some respect. without us you'd be stuck in the dark ages man.
btw if you smelt it you dealt it..maybe you should deal with your own homosexuality issues rather than projecting it at random people. just trying to help :D
Both political parties, republicans and democrats, are from the same mold. Each wants to control the people through lies and smoke screens. Bush lied about WMD in Iraq, unless you think the weapons WE gave them in the 80â??s are still there. He lied about Husseinâ??s involvement in 9/11.Wasnâ??t it Bin laden who claimed he was responsible for the 9/11 attacks? The Middle East has been a region of turmoil and terrorist for decades. Israel continually kills off Palestinians, while receiving billions in aid from America. Bush constantly funds their war mongering ways. America is quickly going down the toilet like a big corn filled turd with no accountability. Special interest groups fund the politicians [ both dem and rep] giving no 3rd party candidate any real chance of being elected. The war in Iraq isnâ??t about WMD, civil liberties, 9/11, terrorists or probable attacks here. It is about the oil pipeline running from Russia through Afghan and Iraq. Oil for American lives, some president we have. 8 out of every 10 oil platforms in the Gulf of Mexico arenâ??t even operational, fact. Most Alaskan oil is exported, fact. But these facts are never in the news. We only see the facts that back the current political agenda. Kerry will be no better than Bush. Kerry talks about jobs and the economy, yet his wifeâ??s company moved all operations out of America. Some way to improve the economy. Maybe his economic plan is to move those plants back here LOL. Bushâ??s Patriot Act is stripping our rights and liberties. Some great president. Halliburton has and is raping every American by over charging and out right stealing taxpayerâ??s money. Just about every country in the world, except the ones we fund, hates us.American companies, backed by the current regime, are pilfering the world from Argentina to Zaier.
Bush is following HIS agenda. Show me 1 thing he hasnâ??t lied about. It wouldnâ??t surprise me if Bush or his cronies didnâ??t orchestrate 9/11.
Peace
Heart
Ps. Differences in opinion need not be responded to with personal attacks. Only small minded people do those things.
well said, heart! it's a dirty war funded by the corrupt. the american experiment has taken an ugly turn for the worst and it's the average citizen that must pay for the greed of the puppetmasters at the top...yikes...maybe things will look more optimistic in 2007?
Are you really this stupid, or is it an act?Quote:
Originally Posted by HiGuy
You sure talk a lot about the word 'facts', but how is unjustified name-calling factual?
Do I really need to express my agreement? I doubt it, but I will anyway..Quote:
Originally Posted by clevemire
Right on euphoric, heart, imotep and cleve :)
thnx ghost. i do try!