Any hiphop fans?

yea...they are so dope...Guru is a dope ass mc and fukn Premiere is like a beatmaking god.

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Originally Posted by STDzRus

Yeah infidel hook me up with some beats!

Unless you don't want my style over them

Check out how I do it...

www.myspace.com/kazecomma

I do everything off the top of my head.

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thats not you, if so thats alright bra

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Originally Posted by smoke ranger

thats not you, if so thats alright bra

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im so confused...what are you talking about?

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Originally Posted by smoke ranger

thats not you, if so thats alright bra

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Wow, you can just call me a blunt faced liar.

That's me bro.

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Originally Posted by infidel818

A kid wouldnt understand the concept.
When MC's go mainstream...they sell out to the mainstream audience. They make music and consider what the people want to hear....not what they think sounds good. They all wanna sound like someone else...and thats whoevers the most popular. The bad part is...going that road is what leads to the most money....thats why groups like GangStarr are so dope because they are able to keep their shit underground, and still attract a huge audience, and they have maintained their style...they dont sell out, and they never will.

Lemme slap on a gangstarr song...ripped it myself from the original.

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Wow...Um..you are speaking in General.

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Originally Posted by STDzRus

Wow...Um..you are speaking in General.

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No shit, how else would i talk about a whole community of people?

Evidently you speak of undergound as it's the greatest, when in fact, just because an artist is underground doesn't make them talented.

Weezy F baby...Tha Carter 2 is good. I know Lil Wayne is pretty mainstream...but I don't think he is a sellout. By the way STDz...I like your song bro

Thanks Dirk.

And that's what I mean, I don't think Lil Wayne is a sellout, he's doing the same thing he was doing when he was trying to come up. This is how he wants to be, and that's who he is.

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Thanks Dirk.

And that's what I mean, I don't think Lil Wayne is a sellout, he's doing the same thing he was doing when he was trying to come up. This is how he wants to be, and that's who he is.

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Exactly

im 100% positive that if you hear lil wayne's old stuff before anyone even heard of him, before he even appeared in big albums, you would think it sounds better than his stuff now.

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Originally Posted by infidel818

im 100% positive that if you hear lil wayne's old stuff before anyone even heard of him, before he even appeared in big albums, you would think it sounds better than his stuff now.

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You mean like his old mixtapes? Cause I have a few of those.

I have Lil Waynes older stuff from stuff like

Da Nolia Soldier Pt. 1
DJ Smallz - Welcome To New Orleans
31 Degreez
DJ Smallz - Squad Up

And yes it is pretty fresh.
That's not the point.

yes, the point is...the more mainstream they get...the worse their music gets...
but as a recording engineer student...i gotta respect em.

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Originally Posted by infidel818

yes, the point is...the more mainstream they get...the worse their music gets...
but as a recording engineer student...i gotta respect em.

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WTF.. there are many UNDERGROUND acts that get worse as they grow older. While it may have something to do with mainstream, it also has to do with growing, and experimenting with new things.

For instance, Tech N9ne is nowhere where he was years ago, I honestly think the man is repeating himself and doing the same things.

I think he's afraid to change his technique because of people like you, who want to hear the same thing over and over again.

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Originally Posted by STDzRus

I have Lil Waynes older stuff from stuff like

Da Nolia Soldier Pt. 1
DJ Smallz - Welcome To New Orleans
31 Degreez
DJ Smallz - Squad Up

And yes it is pretty fresh.
That's not the point.

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I still listen to that

shhhhhhhhhhhhh the fireman commin

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Originally Posted by infidel818

A kid wouldnt understand the concept.
When MC's go mainstream...they sell out to the mainstream audience. They make music and consider what the people want to hear....not what they think sounds good. They all wanna sound like someone else...and thats whoevers the most popular. The bad part is...going that road is what leads to the most money....thats why groups like GangStarr are so dope because they are able to keep their shit underground, and still attract a huge audience, and they have maintained their style...they dont sell out, and they never will.

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well put, gangstarr is sick, and like talib and mos def and the greats before them tribe called quest and de la soul they are the most talented rappers and they stay mostly underground but r good enough to get publicity and a lot of fans and keep there style of hip-hop and make good money. and wat u said how rappers change there style to be more mainstream is sooo tru. look at outkast for example there still ok now but back in the day andrea 3000 didnt dress like a fag and him and big boi's flow was crazy. there shit was good back in the day.

great song..... Gangstarr - take two and pass

dnt forget the roots crew ;)

Im a hip hop head no doubt (hence my name on this site bein Pete Rock). I agree with STZRules theres a lot of good underground shit and theres a lot of garbage underground shit. I stopped thinking in terms of underground and mainstream a long time ago. If the musics hot, its hot period, regardless of who makes it. Theres a lot of good rap and underground shit out there (Tribe, Beanie Seigal, Roots, Nas, Too Short, Dre, etc). And some of that southern shit is good too, especially when cruisin with a nice blunt. 3 6 Mafia and Project Pat. Expand your horizons my people.

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well put, gangstarr is sick, and like talib and mos def and the greats before them tribe called quest and de la soul they are the most talented rappers and they stay mostly underground but r good enough to get publicity and a lot of fans and keep there style of hip-hop and make good money. and wat u said how rappers change there style to be more mainstream is sooo tru. look at outkast for example there still ok now but back in the day andrea 3000 didnt dress like a fag and him and big boi's flow was crazy. there shit was good back in the day.

great song..... Gangstarr - take two and pass

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I feel you man. Southernplayalistikcadillacmusik was some hot shit. All there new shit I aint feelin. Especially that Hey Yea bullshit.

I'm with u pete rock i like the old outkast better they have turned into a pop band
krs one
pete rock & CL
mos def
tribe
talib kweli
lost boyz

also like gangsta shit like wu & biggie Method Man is my favorite of all time

Rage Against the Machine

i like gangster rap. my favourite being Ice T then in no particular order, NWA, Eazy E, Ice Cube, early Dr. Dre

i like three six mafia

IM GOIN TO THE WU-TANG REUNION TOUR TONITE at the electric factory in philly!!!!! bringin a few dutches along

I wonder when hiphop is gonna come back...

My favorite album of all time is Tha Dogg Pound "Dogg Food". Best shit.

nobody listens to Mac Dre (R.I.P.) or Andre Nickatina? some of that bay music for ya. And what about Bone Thugs

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Too short is the shit, good call!

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hell ya god damn motherfuckin shit ass hole!!! i saw too short in concert last march, it was tight

All im going to say is Alice in Chains

infidel818, Why you gotta hate on southern rappers? :mad:

Why do people wanna think just because someone wants to make some damn money on what they do that they are a sellout? That is bullshit! People have to make money to fucking live!!

talib kweli
blackalicious
k-os
mos def
jurassic 5
heiroglyphics
wu tang
mf doom
kool keith
del the funky homosapian
jean grae

and more... thats my cup of hip hop tea.

Love- Kate

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Originally Posted by Make it Hempen

talib kweli
blackalicious
k-os
mos def
jurassic 5
heiroglyphics
wu tang
mf doom
kool keith
del the funky homosapian
jean grae

and more... thats my cup of hip hop tea.

Love- Kate

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A girl with dreads and fine taste in hip hop, who also blazes.

What more could a guy want

I'm a rap fan. But I dont like to be called a rap fan, I'm a music fan. I happen to have more favorite rap songs than any other genre but I still like what ever sounds good to my ear, but as for my favorite rap artist I'd have to be Tupac, but for living rap artists I like Young Jeezy and Game.