Ah, I guess it's just a slang thing, around here only amphetamines are referred to as speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by bedake
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Ah, I guess it's just a slang thing, around here only amphetamines are referred to as speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by bedake
They don't need to wear spacesuits, they just think it looks cool. The cooks never seem to have one. But you're right, much harder on the body than H. On the other hand, withdrawls are nowhere near as bad, and it's harder to OD on. If it were possible to make herion or cocaine in your garage you would no dought have all the same problems. Recent laws restricting pseudofed sales will largely eliminate small meth labs. Not that it matters, the Mexican drug cartels are waiting to fill the void. Tweak all you want, gringo, we'll smuggle more.Quote:
Originally Posted by kobeite
Well no H is by far more dangerous very nasty stuff. Meth is veyr bad yes but I know more people the age of 55 that has done meth for 44 years look absolutely healthy than H the age of 60 having done H fo r more than 30 years be so fucked up its hard to even look at them. Meth is also speed since its just like amps but much more intense and euphorical thats why meth was made.. it was to replace something weaker by the japs.
There is no argument... why shouldn't people be able to responsibily use a drug and not get addicted? I've done it and others have done it... my dad was addicted to Speed and he got off of it long ago. You're spouting a bunch of bullshit... you're friends got addicted because they abused the drug.
I didn't mean space suits LITERALLY, but YES they do have to wear a protective suit when the raid these places becuase of the highly combustible chemicals that are involved in making meth. And yes, there have been horrible, horrible accidents that meth makers have endured due to the lack of protective gear when in the process on making meth.
Can you imagine taking a drug that is cut w/ Draino and bleach and whatever else synthetic chemicals that shit's made of... imagine going days without sleeping how unnatural and fucked up that is. It is PATHETIC that the govermment is taking the time to crack down on MJ users rather than meth users. Don't expect a stoner to try speed, it's meth that's the killer.
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Originally Posted by kobeite
it seems like every week the cops here are busting meth labs, i live in a town of like 10,000 small ass town with neighboring villages of like 1000, those other small towns by us are where they are cooking meth, one meth lab was in the basement when they ran a babysitting job in the upstairs, its really fucked up around here with meth and heroin. strange too since i live in a rural community
i'm not just talking out of my ass, here. - heatherhatesyou
I think you are, and your a hypocrite. Maybe when you get out of school and join the rest of us in the real world you will open your eyes. Dont listen to all the propaganda the government and news media put out. Your numbers in various post are incorrect, when you put numbers out there try to validate them. More people die from alcohol than all the rest added up together. Period. Ask the captain of the Exxon Valdeaz what the worst drug is.
a) I'd consider myself part of the real world, thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by motorcycletony222
b) this isn't government propaganda at all. it's facts. i wrote a research paper on meth and meth abuse for a sociology class and never went to a government sponsored website. i looked at statistics, news articles, and erowid.
c) i didn't post any numbers so i don't know what you're talking about.
d) yes, alcohol is the biggest killer. it's also legal.
you're an idiot.
furthermore,
don't do meth.
regards,
heather
Blah blah fucking blah... people who get addicted are idiots. Now fuck off... you fucking pod.
I agree I'm a idoit, I believe my ex-wife would agree too. I should have said facts not numbers. Like herion is plants, right, with kerosene and HCl mixed in. Look at a bottle of aspirin, most meds we take end with either HCl or Sulfate. Thats the way meds are made and speed too, but not with battery acid, thats H2SO4, HCl is used, thats the acid thats found in everyones stomach. So please before you do your next big paper try and get the right facts.
You said that like 10 times already.Quote:
Originally Posted by heatherhatesyou
Most people say that.
But you know what? People still do meth. It doesn't change a thing.
Most people don't know how the drug works so they don't know what the fuck to do with themselfs on it. Like Ecstasy... people take like three pills to get effects because they aren't dancing around like a bunch of fruits on one but that isn't even the point. I bet a lot of people haven't even tried just taking one proper pure pill and just hanging out with one or two friends and talking all night, playing music on our instruments or on the stereo. Most people compltely miss the point of MDMA and thats why they get burnt out... "YO! UH! I'm rolling three triple stacks plus I snorted half another pill 20 minutes ago and OOOH I feel grreat!1" What a bunch of morons.
People miss the point of Meth also, and they make some fucked up habit of using and then they get fucked in several different ways. But the use of Meth is really like using Ritalin only stronger... but it has basically the same purpose. I can fix clocks and radios and shit on Meth... I can play crazy shit on Meth. I've only done it twice. MONTHS AGO!
Heather, you need a laxative for that bullshit spouting from your yap.
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Originally Posted by CocaCola
YES!!!!!!! exactly!!!!
its called Addiction
It doesn't matter how you do it, it all goes to the same place. HOW the drug is done only affects how long it takes for you to feel it. It splits nerve endings in your brain, causing brain damage ;)
Here is another FACT about how meth is cooked. Lye, the number 1 pollutant, also linked to breast cancer, is used. They take sudefed and cook it with stuff like lye. The fumes are so deadly that if you get a wif, you die within seconds. I have seen pictures of dead people who were trying to leave the room. They saw the fumes, turned around to leave, and died within seconds. And then another person in the room saw that 1st person drop, turned around to run and died. You could see this in their positions.
If you are smoking meth, and it is liquid, it will burn right through your skin. I know smoking heroin is bad, but heroin won't burn through your skin. Acid does that.
Call it Goverment propaganda if you want, have you ever seen the movie Reefer Madness? If you haven't, then you haven't seen propaganda. What I saw were real live pictures of dead people, right next to their meth lab.
Eva
When you see people you love destroy themselves, young and old, It just becomes one of those things, It makes her feel better she's said it. So in a way it is changing things, because it makes her feel like she IS doing something instead of sitting idle and watching this.Quote:
Originally Posted by thcbongman
Who cares, either people will listen, or they won't. But maybe just one 14 year old on here will think twice when it is offered. That alone is worth it.
Eva
Do you honestly believe that people do meth because it sucks and is going to kill them? People, myself included, did meth because we're intrigued in expanding our minds and experimenting with our very conciousness. I personally didn't take to kindly to meth, I'll stick to amps myself, however anyone has a right to do the substance, and some even can achieve psychological benefits. It's all about knowing one's self and strong will power, if one have both of these traits it's highly unlikely one will become an addicted. It's just a matter of cost/benefit analysis.
It still causes brain damage....:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by LordRuffleMontgomery
But whatever, as long as your not an addict, right?
Eva
*sighs* I don't even know where to start.
Meth should not have draino, or battery acid, or any chemicals in it other than methamphetamine hydrochlride. Yes, many of the chemicals used to synthesize meth are flammable and/or toxic, but none of them should make it into the final product. Most perscription drugs were likely synthesized usng some chemicals that are toxic.
Methapmphetamine is stronger than amphetmine due to the the addition of a methyl group, which makes it harder for your body to break down the drug, so it sticks around longer.
Amphetamines in general are quite harsh on your body. They cause your body to burn stored energy, while preventing it from doing the things it needs to do to replenish that energy, like eating and sleeping.
Heroin is very easy on your body, the drug it's self is no more harmful than weed. The problem lies it's stong potential for addiction, and the lifestyle most people once they become addicted.
Thank you....VERY well said.
Meth shouldn't have those things in it, but those things are very hard to get out of it. And the people making this shit could care less.
Eva
Heroin halts the natural production of Endorphins(sp) in your body. It's not easy... it's rather harsh. If you abuse it.
Meth's dangerous toxic ingredients are broken down and only certain parts of these toxins are used. And also if you don't use often then you won't get brain damage... for christ sakes... only the few of you have been blathering on while the rest of us have been telling you that we've used and we're fine. You guys are so brainwashed.
For your information, I've used. About a total of 6 times. And I am fine also. But I have major depression (dysthymic dysorder), and anxiety(panic attacks, I've lost 20 pounds in 1 week before puking in the middle of the night from anxiety). And I have tooth damage, on more than one tooth.
I am older now, on the outside looking in, with experience. And now I know things I didn't know when I had used. That would be the point of this topic, to tell youngn's like yourself (17?) that it is bad shit.
I know people who have used horribley, and some who have used moderately. And they are all equally as fucked up, and dramatic. No money, horrible skin, bad teeth. Think about it, I swear to god that 6 times affected me.... forever. If you don't believe the depression and anxiety part, then believe the teeth part. Because I am in my mid 20's and I am missing enamel off my teeth, never had a cavity. And there was a bit of a brown spot starting.
Think what you want, It's still bad shit. Facts are facts, opinions are just that. And opinions not based on facts are ignorant ones :)
Eva
Again, I have used. And due to the spliting of nerve endings I have major depression and anxiety. Someone else also mentioned that they had also used, and can't even hold a conversation due to braindamage...for christ sakes!Quote:
Originally Posted by CocaCola
Eva
I didn't know you've used but regardless... 6 times? In a span of how long?
I've used twice and I'm completely healthy. No anxiety or depression... so what gives? Maybe you did to much Meth?
The fact of the matter is... whatever bullshit you spout... it's YOUR fault for using and 6 times is more then enough to cause some "damage", although it couldn't possibly be that bad. But whatever... if you feel that Meth contributed to or even caused that "damage" then go right ahead. I can't say what is what... I don't know you. But I could guess that you abused it and you fucked yourself.
How many times must I say it?Quote:
Originally Posted by andruejaysin
I did it once in about 2000, twice in 2001, and 3 times in 2004.
The reason I didn't like meth is I have a high metabolism, and I don't sleep well, or have much of an appetite ever. Meth just aggrevated those things obviously. Pot helps those things. Off a little bit I would be up for days. I hurt my arm once cleaning walls. I couldn't eat for days. I was lucky, I got away from it before it became a problem.
Eva
If you didn't like it, why did you do it? And if you usually can't sleep or eat, why did you even consider it? Especially for a second time... why?
I am not on here for sypathy over my stupid actions. I am here to tell people about the dangers. Is it bad for you or not, because now 6 times is more than enough to cause some damage Six times is nothing. I know people who haven't a clue how many times they've done it. And they job hop, loose their kids to DFS, go to jail for forgery, fail UA after UA, Go to jail, and rehab, and jail, and rehab. People who tatoo crap on themselves like WHITETRASH across their bear belly. Now that they are clean they are embaressed of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by CocaCola
You don't want to hear what we have to say, the BOO! Go away if this stuff scares you. Maybe you like the shit more than you think, and your trying to justify your own use.
Just so you know, the zombie cracked out look isn't sexy to anyone unless they want to share your drugs ;)
Eva
I'm not interested in using because I satisfied my curiousity about Meth's effects. Now hopefully you see our point...
Like I said, people get into the habit of using and they fuck themselves. Like Jesus, that's ALL I've been saying... still can't get through though?
Why would this scare anyone? It's not scary... it's funny, watching you guys ramble on like a dare commercial, except it's even funnier because you're trying to warn people about the dangers of METH. Everyone should know this stuff before they use or else it's their own stupid fault.
The first 3 times were before my son. I would've done anything you put in front of me as long as I didn't pay for it. I had snorted it, and it was "crank" not meth, if there much of a difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by CocaCola
The last 3 times, my hubby and I were going through some thing, a crack head friend moved to town, and met a dealer. I was over there and they were smoking it, I thought what the heck. I had never smoked it. And It felt GOOD that first time. Then I couldn't sleep all night, so I did some more the next day, and couldn't sleep all night, did some more so I could function with my 3 year old on no sleep. My hubby got wind of what was up, we had a fight, he hit me with a door I was trying to shut on him, and I punched him in the nose. He called the cops, I went to jail. We worked it out, my friend went way down hill from there and moved away, pregnate (3rd kid, she's 24) by this 45 year old dealer who is now in the pen.
Long story short. Drugs are adictive for a reason, they feel good, at first. Then they become necessary.
Eva
That's when you say no and stop. But you needed to be hit by a door to realize that. Not that it's a bad thing... it needed to happen, didn't it?
Facts are scary. I think that there should be a class on meth in highschool. Hopefully it will scare the crap out of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by CocaCola
And so since everyone should know these things before they use, or it is their own stupid fault. Then who is the stupid one, the person educated on the harful effects advocating it, or the insecure kid that just wants to fit in.
Whatever man, Brain damage is brain damage however slight. I am not going to argue with a teenager about drugs, not really the point of my comming in here. Fact is, let Heather say what she wants. If you don't want to hear it, don't read it. The subject was pretty clear.
Eva
Absolutely. I shutter to think where I would have been had he not freaked out the way he did. We are amazing now, I am very healthy. And I am now on the outside looking in. That is why I say from experience, these people who use don't have a clue. They are in their own world.Quote:
Originally Posted by CocaCola
Still happily married, no more issues. Point proven......
Eva
I'm not advocating anything. Once again you're being stupid. I never said DO Meth! It's fun! That insecure kid needs to stop being such a pussy...
Me being 17 has nothing to do with anything so nevermind how old I am... I didn't get caught between family and Meth. So who is the kid?
Heather can say what she wants and I can tell her that it's useless and it wouldn't help. She can ignore me as well... Seriously, you people are funny but you give me a headache.
But I am glad you guys are happy now and that you've grown up.
Whose being stupid? Once again?? And being 17 has everything to do with it. You are showing your immaturity in having a converstion. Go take a Laxative or something :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by CocaCola
And actually the fight was because I had been with a friend and he asked what we did, I said smoke a bowl, and he assumed it was meth when it was pot, because of the earlier week. And started the fight. So again, you don't have a clue ;)
You don't even get my life at all. My name isn't even Eva. But I will tell you this, I have been with my highschool sweetheart through it all. He had alcohol issues in the beginning which were just as bad as anything I did on any drug.
I don't know why I give you a headache unless I am making that burnt brain of your work on something other than a school paper.
Oh, and 3 of my 6 times were with my hubby, who is the first person I did it with. Again, part of the WHOLE story you don't know :)
I am showing my immaturity in having a conversation? Who is being stupid once again? Me? What was stupid? Seriously, can you even read BOTH posts or just yours? I never insisted I knew you, I even believe I stated that I didn't know you so I wouldn't be making any judgements... so what are you going on about? My burnt brain? You're now making the same assumptions that you were accusing me of making... and I never even made any assumptions in the first place, I only know about the stuff you mentioned in your posts. And I can tell that you're a pod. I thought maybe not, but you are... so I guess this conversation is over now. After all, only kids have conversations right?
Whatever a pod is.....
Your way of conversing, insulting people, calling them stupid, is immature, and stupid.
And your right, this coverstaion is over. You have nothing but insults to add here.
And calling me a methhead in a whole different forum is surely a judgment, and stupid, and again, immature.....
My assumtion about your burnt brain, was based on your burnt way of conversing. Again, very juvenile.
I tend to be a wank on the internet because I couldn't give two shits about what who when where why or how when I'm talking to some fucktard on the net. You're focusing too much on the supposed "insults" and less on what I'm trying to tell you. Oh yeah, and you like to drink fermented anal leakage.