Zandor and Trichome Creator Tag Team!!!
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Zandor and Trichome Creator Tag Team!!!
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Can you grow plants that tall in there? :D
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yea.. .just to clarify i really don't believe that 1.5lbs figure... i was talkin mainly in terms of quality :D
Trust me my quality is first rate. I bet the quality of TC is first rate as well.
You can do a lot of things with fluorescent lights but grow that much in that space is not one of them.
DING...DING...Knockout! :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zandor
of course not.. its a nice little box but not anywhere close to being worth $2700 and no way it produces 1.5 lbs
and i don't doubt the quality of anybodys crops here... did i say that??
all i said was that fluoro lights are perfectly capable of matching quality, i would theorize that they could even produce better quality, because they can emulate natural sunlight FAR better than any HID out there, but of course that can't be done with conventional cheapo fluors ya get from walmart, homedepot, etc, so the cost of the bulbs alone would make it more practical to get a HID
if ya wanna go for broke, i would bet that even yield could be matched with the use of VHO (very high output) fluoro fixtures, but the price of those for the fixture alone is way more than a single HID, and you would need multiple lights, making it very impractical, price wise.... where a standard 48'' fluoro tube could produce about 40W worth of light, a VHO will produce well over twice that in the same space, about 110W.... if anyone who grows fluoro wants to blow $300 to $500 per fixture plus $20/bulb to journal a VHO grow i'll be the first in line to watch :p lol
Just my thoughts.. Flouros have their place with simple, stealth, piss ant personal use grows like mine, cloning and very early veg stage. If you are serious about growing then you have to go play with the big boys using HID lighting. Otherwise use the Sun.
very true.
when i talk about thier use i am only talking about small time personal grows
i disagree with the price of ganja being higher than gold, so im against black market ganja for now
everybody needs to grow thier own :D
zandor whats the age of those plants? they look amazing.
IF YA SMEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLL!!!!! What the Roller is smoking!!!
["oh my god!..oh my god! its...its...Easy Roller from back stage ! ...in his costume! .... ..... ..... he's got something in his hand...it's a ..it's.. a crappy fluoro! tube ..he don't look happy"] .
But seriously...c'mon... like TheCheapo says...fluoros should be used for young subsidiary plants. And i'm sure the spectrum is excellent...but the discharge sucks ..the efficiency is poorand they take too much room[if one has to use 4/5 of them to light a plant!]. Ancient growers had to use fluoros, the ScrOG technique was born out of the best way to maximize these low intensity bulds...now with the HID type lights...ScrOG has been taken to a new level. And as for repeating someoneelse's bullshit...thats excactly what i do...I read books on the subject written buy seasoned growers who have worn the t-shirt and know the script.....not Part-Timers who are trying to sell me their product!! But pray you continue!
I have to be honest here I grew for over a year with just flourecents,both veg tubes and full specrtrum for flowering did o'k! but was always disapointed!,can you grow with flourecents sure no problem but can you get amazing results? I doubt it,most of thoses buds in thoses picks in this thread are as loose as a goose I bet!.................Flourecent lights are good for many things but turning out full quality heavy crops? I havent seen it.....but since I bumped my grow room up too #2 1000w hps hortilux and a 1000w MH for vegging wow! now I got results lol and the buds are so tight it's great!...
I suspect I should do very well in the future! of course a great crop has to do with many things other then lights but I can tell you this,if you aint got the best lights you can't get the best results.......I have huge plants with no co2 enrichment,I can only imagine what it would be like if I did add co2 lol....
But those suncell box's are a good thing no doubt but my days of flourcent lights are over!.............
but what were the details of your grow?
i have had good results with my fluoro grows, not as good yield wise as my hps grow (but that isn't any kind of comparison because the grow space / wattage etc were different), but still very good
but i used adjusted spectrum bulbs and was running over 100w psf... it was more costly than a small hid to set up and to operate... i didnt yield as much, but the buds weren't fluffy and the end product was a little better
as a solution i grow with the hps now, but i have added a couple of the flors to my setup :thumbsup:
I thought we were gonna see 1.5 lb in 8 weeks and all i've seen is debate over floros and hps.
This is stupid. Floros are great if you are a first time grower trying to get experience. they are also goodfor close and seedlings.
For growing buds and getting all around best results nothing compares to hid lighting. end of story.
and i don'tknow about technichal details. thats fust my own experience.
in terms of yeild, yes, in terms of quality, not necesarilyQuote:
Originally Posted by Mctuffet
under the hand of a skilled grower the difference is negligible, but for the same reason outdoor bud can usually be greater quality than indoor, fluoros come way closer to emulating natural sunlight... namely the capability to produce UV-B radiation, which stimulates trich production. no HID is capable of that, not to mention a decent spectral distribution. which is why i use a mix of fluoro and hps
there is a HUGE variety of different types of output on fluoro bulbs available, it is way more complex than just hps/mh.. if you didnt know the details of the lights you were using then you obviously didnt take fluoro growing seriously in the first place
Looks at Trichome and laughs hysterically
Mightybuds should be listened to here!
The best lighting for dense heany buds is HPS with a supplementary MH...no?
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Originally Posted by mightymarijuanabuds
i agree that it is a good idea to supplenemt hps with floro. I do the same thing. i am jsut speaking in gereral terms. as far as cost and difficulty go in set up. the hid lighting is soo much better., You cans eriously set up one light and kick ass with way less effor that floro.
thats very true... in order for a fluoro set up to compete, you need to run more power and put more time and effort into planning your lighting scheme... and if its anything more than a personal grow, not worth it, otherwise they can be very worthwhile... but you actually have to plan and research your bulbs as well, its way more than just this kind for veg and that kind for flower when you have like 10 different spectrographs to choose from
my fluoro and hps (only hps, before supplementation) grows were very comparable, but i ran about twice as much watts PSF with the fluoro, and had a single female in a 4ft. tall, 1 sq.ft. box to accomplish it :p lol
all im sayin is that fluoros now are not even in the same league as fluoro from back in the day before HID lights... there is no comparison to be made, unless your trying to go full cycle with one cheapo cool white or something stupid like that.... it happened, not everybody tryin to grow back then was that silly, but it did happen. HID lights are the best option for *almost* everyone... new to growing, need some crazy amount of yield, etc... for small grows, or stealth boxes that dont use a 30dB air mover screamin in the closet all night long in order to keep that damn thing cool (why i started messin with a fluoro box in the first place :p ), areas with heat issues or space limitations, etc...
i did my 1sq.ft. fluoro box as an experiment, for fun, and i was impressed enough with it to keep it around :D
I've got a 75w fluoro in my closet that used to act as a mirror light..yesterday i put a germed seed into a pot and placed the pot under the fluoro...it's common knowledge that fluoros are sufficient for younglings...but when it's time...that bitch is going under HPS. Call me stubborn..but that is what countless sources say is the best thing to do...this Static dude...who i don't really have a problem with..should make the same box but with a HPS ...AND...a fluoro! But i hope he sticks around anyway so he can show us if he's right or not.....it's good to have fresh perspectives. If this guy has done it once ...he can do it again..and again and in 8 weeks time he can show us all..if not he's a liar..but if he has done it before then he has nothing to hide from ...so if we dont hear from him we can assume he was lying.
I do NOT think you can yield that much in that amount of time..!:p
I don't know if he means the plants full life or just in flower!:)
Does he mean to yield that amount from one plant or many??:D
go check out the spectrographs on the fluoros at your local pet shop... far superior as far as spectrum goes .... hps + fluoro is still the overall best option though :)
theres no way... it has to be multiple plants, and multiple units to achieve that kind of yield
the fact that he hasnt shown up to chip in anything to the discussion shows that he was just workin for the company tryin to push thier overpriced POS .... hoping that the stoner community wont know any better
just like those phototron fuckers who have been in high times for years and years
Thats the way it goes...Hey Static ! Don't let your thread go static!....only time will tell if i will eat my words or not...i keep an open mind usually..but this ones gonna take me some convincing.
You people ripped a new asshole on his behind... and you want him to come back and prove the 1.5lb in 8weeks?!
I think you're crazy. But then again, I also want to see 1.5lb in 8weeks.
I think the fuckup was in the 'challenge'. If he shows us 1.5lb in 8weeks without a challange, then he would shut up all of us (ok, some).
As to his box; look very good. Very well built. As to stealth, well, I've always thought that stealth is about not letting anyone near your garden. If it's a room; nobody goes in. If it's a closet; nobody can go near it. If you live in a small house/apartment; no friends hang-out at your place. Although a box can be dead quiet, I would personally wonder what the hell a big box is doing in the middle of the living room. And those pictures of the bookshelf/cabinet grow boxes... damn... C'mon people... it's a grow box!
My 2cents...
Hello Static :) well love if you're selling them then good luck to you ;)
We all have to make a few penny's but $2750 (I think thats about £1,300) ................. to grow a bit of weed :eek:
Hmmmm that's got me thinking now what I would do with £1,300, well I think a few new outfits and a couple of weeks in the Canary Islands :)
love mand xxx :)
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh static did you hear that the Canarie islands.An d she's gonna be wearing some new cloths. She is basicly gonna be styling in the canarrie islands why you grow some fluffy weed. I bet mand will be in the islands with some sexy dudes givin here some dank ass buds. you know why? it's the love and care that brings the buds. not some expensive box. And you know who has love and care? Mand does. she is soo cool about how she does her thing. She is just laid back and takes what comes, gives the plants what they nead and doesn't worry about how expensive the set up is. There alot of people here who are no growing pot because they are trying to make money. They grow it because they love the plant.
I'm gona post someting that i be tyou guys didn't know. I don't smoke weed. Not at all. But 4 years ago i did and thought it would be cool to grow it. I quit that same year and have been growing since. Why? It is soo rewarding to see you efforts turn into something. I love growing cannabis. And i have so much respect for all you guys who are here growing for the love of the plant and it's natural beuty.
Hello Mctuffet :) I think it was our Latewood who said to me once that "Cannabis doesn't become addictive untill you start growing it".
You know I really have to agree with that statement ;) and I feel sure that you do too :)
When I finsh one crop I imeadiately start another, I can have packets of the stuff in the freezer and a few old biscuit tins full of weed but I still start another :o
I find it so very nice to just have something to look after each day that doesn't involve the family or work, the plants are my own thing and I suppose are a distraction away from the chores of this life :)
I can absolutely understand what you are saying :)
Hmmmm the canary Islands :), actually at the moment myself and two other girls from work are talking about going there in the New Year, you know a bit of a winter break, try and find a good last minuite deal ;)
I think it will be Tenerrife, that's the livelist Island, I always go there when going with friends or family, oh and yes there is always plenty of bud available there ;)
However a couple of times I have been just on my ownsome, honestly it's not has sad as it sounds ;)
However when I go by myself I always go to Furtherventura, I've never even seen a bud there and yet it's only 90 miles of the coast of Morrocco.
However it's a place that you can go spend all day on the beach with a good book and no one will ever bother you, total escapism :)
Although I do know of a little shop that sell really "dirt cheap booze" and it's really good quality ;)
love mand xxx :)
"HATS OFF TO MANDY!" Tenerife ..Where the sand is as dark as the night sky! "Oh Mandy you came and you gave....da na na naa" etc. [God i hope your name is in fact Mandy!]
But seriously ..were the f is Static ..hmm? You don't have to hide...because you know your grow box can deliver coz you've done it b4....Right? I didn't mean to be horrid...it's just ..it's just....I'm a confrontational person..now were are you?!
wheres the updates?
Yeh hit me!
Its possable to build something like that at a fraction of a cost totally agree with you and make it totally stealth in fact its possable to do nearly anything ya want if you put your mind too it and it dont involve something stupid like timetravel and weird midget people with big sticks ( weird dream i had ignore me im insane ) , take it easy :rasta:
I think he dissapeard!:p
Guess that sales pitch did not go as he intended did it?
There are a few other forums where he tried the same thing, different name but same pictures. They ran him off too. Guess he thought we were all dumb stoners and he would have an easy time pulling one over on us.
Not here, hehehehe
Lol Zandor!:D
It looked good, but at that price, I would much rather go with a big hydro setup!:D:p
I feel ...almost proud...in some ways,like to a valiant warrior...my name's billy not silly..he's having a bubble bath..doughnut! stroll on sunshine...next time i take a digit..any how i figured he'd be trying to punt his little coffins on other sites....not that i ever go on other sites...and under a different name eh? shamo!
alright we are on day 10 of this 1.5lbs time machine you got do you have an update ?
heres the setup i made you said was cheap and heres what i got so far.
Sic him mobay Sic him!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by mobay
woof woof woof
hey moby i never thank for ur comment and i was also wondering were go to get ur weed from jamacia like the person u got it from and like would he want to let me in just a question not to intrude on your business i respect u man
I hereby recommened that this thread be donated to Mobay....Since Static is overthrown....his lies have been burried with his little fluoro coffins...ALL IN FAVOUR SAY AYE!!
Mobay ..we thus bestow upon you all rights and privileges of this thread and the responsabillity to show us how to grow some redman ganj, in a box made by thineown hand! Probably for a few millions bucks less than 'tragic Static's' gold plated fluoro box!...
Keep on postin
aye
how do you say no?
NOT!!:D
Aye for mobay!:D:D