oh I don't think you have any idea, but thanks
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oh I don't think you have any idea, but thanks
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lol, Though I would have worded it slightly different, I would have to agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Imotep
People believe God created Man, when the truth (or what I perceive to be the truth) is that Man created God. When Mankind doesn't understand something, it invents something to seemingly explain that thing, until it can be explained rationally and logically. In a thousand years, if Mankind still exists, I dont think people will still believe in God, because we will have a better understanding of our origin. The idea of a God will no longer be needed. The Church will try to deny it, as it always has, but the truth is that we only believe in God to explain the unexplainable, but as I usually do when on this subject, I digress.
Taking a subjective viewpoint, though; If God does exist, then he cant be very happy. We all live our lives in a state of "sin". Then we ask him to forgive us, then we sin again. How is that right? And if he does exist, why doesn't he do something? If he does exist, why doesn't he provide us non-believers with some solid proof, like he supposedly did in Biblical Times? Surely if he could do it back then, then he can do it now?
Someone said earlier "in logic, it is impossible to prove that something does not exist". That's true. It is impossible. BUT, because we can't prove that it doesnt exist, it doesnt go to follow that it does exist. If that were the case, than every myth, legend, fairy tale, etc would be true, because we can't prove that its not. Thats ridiculous.
Anyway, ive had this arguement so many times. Us 'non-believers' use well thought-out logic in our arguements, whereas 'believers' just say "well, youre wrong". The only logic explination they come up with is "look around you. how did all this get here? etc". To me, thats not a solid arguement at all. It shouldnt be seen as a solid arguement to anyone. If thats what you believe than you are either fooling yourself or youre dillusional.
I think God's a friend, I don't think that the Bible is life's DEFINITIVE instruction manual. The basic tenets of almost every major religion teach us the same thing: be good, don't hurt people, be compassionate, and forget about the material trappings of this life, because that's not what we're here to learn about. I think most people have missed the point, especially in many circles of organize religion. People have given up values for dogma, and I think we can see what effect that has had on the planet. Religion has always been taught as a means to promote peace, yet now most wars that are being fought hide behind some religious pretext. If your faith is in values and in humanity, then I'm a friend. If, on the other hand, faith is just a matter of following the rules for you, then I'm afraid I can't support that. In any case, this existence is just a manifold manifestation of imperfect ideals. What we are all seeking is to promote these ideals. The way to do this is through refining the concepts and working towards them, not by anchoring oneself to a safe conceptual territory that promotes just one set of ideals, but by exploring the vast array of brilliant human thought over the centuries which CHALLENGE our conceptual boundaries and force us to consider the infinite possibilities latent within all creation's universal spirit/conscioussness. Anyway, I hope your religion helps you and allows you to help others rather than limiting you because of some ancient rules that aren't really relevant anymore.
Peace.
Ok for people Who dont know. How in the Hell do u think we got on this earth? By evoling out of apes/monekys/rocks the big bang theory.??? Thats a bunch of bulllshit. Got Put us here. Adam and eve where the first and The BIBLE!is the PROVE!!!!! OF GOD AND HES WORKS AND WHAT HE TEACHES. YOU ARE FOOLS TO NOT WORSHIP HIM! AND THAT HE PUT YOU HERE HE LETS YOU! SMOKE POT ! GAVE US THAT WONDERFUL PLANT. TAKE IT FOR GRANTED THAT YOU HAVE THE OPUTUNITY TO LIVE EACH DAY AND TAKE FOR GRANTED YOU DONT DIE IN YOUR SLEEP!. READ REVALAtIONS OF THE BIBLE AND MAYBE THEN U WILL SEE!!. Untill then you have nothing the say. -The end
Hey there Dylan,Quote:
Originally Posted by DylanN89
Ok, so Adam lay with Eve and had Cain and Abel (Genesis 4:1-2)
then Cain's wife gave birth to Enoch (Genesis 4:17)
Where's did Cain's wife come from :confused:
I'm not a non-believer btw, I just don't take every word in the Bible literally :rolleyes:
Peace
Edit: Oh and another thing "until then you have nothing to say - The end"
Please :D get over yourself ~lol~
Lulu, youre right, methinks he needs to get over himself just a incy wincy, teen tiny bit LOL
and Dylan, the bible isn't proof at all. It says Adam and Eve were the first on Earth, but it doesn't actually prove anything! And to say that it does prove it is a joke.. fair enough, you believe in the bible, but please, please, please do not insult others that don't believe in it.. it just makes you look ridiculous
What ever im just saying one day there will be a judgement day when you die and face him face to face. And you will recieve what u get. Im not telling people or forcing people to believe what im saying or make anyone mad. im just trying to get a point out. That if you go to chruch and listen. You would understand. Now just hear this. Jesus is the kings of kings and the BIBLE is profe of it wether you think it is or not its only way. Believe "in the end of the world god will come from the east and EVERYONE WILL BOW BEFORE HIM AND WORSHIP HIM" Revaltions wrote by John. AND THEN YOU WILL BE PROSACUTED IF YOUR A BELIVER OR NOT IM SAYING THIS AS FARE WARNING AND THAT YOU DONT KNOW WHEN YOUR TIME IS. AND IF YOU BELIEVE AND TRUST THAT GOD IS YOUR SAVOR AND THAT HE DIED FOR ALL OF US THEN YOUR SAVED. BUT I DONT WANT ANYONE TO THINK THAT IM TELLING YOU TO BELIEVE IN GOD IM JUST SAYING THAT YOU SHOULD CONSIDER WHAT IM SAYING. For all of you that think o well there is no provfe of it then be that way. And another thing i wouldnt want none of you to go to hell. You all seem like very nice people and also smoking what god has put on this earth to heal the body/mind/soul. Fair game the Devil is working in you to rebel against god. And wants you not to believe but you cant let him do that you must fight him in hard ways. PLEASE READ THIS WITH EASE! :)
-Your friend
-Dylan
"I will strew your flesh upon the mountains, and fill the valleys with your carcass. I will drench the land even to the mountains with your flowing blood..."
Christian god-Ezekiel 32:5
"'Pass through the city after him, and smite; your eye shall not spare and you shall show no pity; slay old men outright, young men and maidens, little children and women...'"
Christian god-Ezekiel 9:5
"Behold, I will corrupt your seed and spread dung upon your faces..."
Christian god-Malachi 2:3
yikes.
So, Dylan, if I make up a bible of little phrases and stories and tell everyone their damned if they don't believe it...then what is that proof of?
Proof that some ppl will believe most anything if you threaten them with eternal firey pits of hell. Now kneel down and pray at my feet! (My bible says you must!)
See? Control...organized religion is about controlling the masses, and you, Dylan, are all the proof we non believers need to know it's working.
ok im done trying to explain happy smoking :)
You know something Dylan everyones path is different,Quote:
Originally Posted by DylanN89
we are all so different
Isn't that a wonderful thing :)
Try to stay as open as you can ~
everyone who doesn't believe in your way
isn't automatically going to the firey depths :rolleyes:
ALL GOD'S CRITTERS GOT A PLACE N THE CHOIR.
SOME SING LOW,
SOME SING HIGHER,
SOME SING OUT LOUD ON THE TELEPHONE WIRE.......
:D sing with us Dylan~lol~ :D and we won't tell yer Ma yer smokin' the ganj ;) :p :D
shut up ive got caught before but i dont care if i get caught again and stop makiong fun of people you starting to piss me off
sing with us Dylan~lol~ and we won't tell yer Ma yer smokin' the ganj
Dylan, the truth of it is, nobody cares if theyre pissing you off. Well, I certainly don't. And as for that long winded and barely coherent post you made - I don't care. I don't care if you think i'm going to hell, because I don't.. I don't care if you think i'm a sinner, because I don't.. If people want to believe in god and all that, then that's up to them.. its their choice. And i'm perfectly willing to have a debate about it. Debates are informative, interesting, and are a good way of expressing your opinions in a reasonable manner.. but your posts don't warrant friendly responses, because you're not friendly.. Stop trying to impose your beliefs on others, and "go to hell"
Ahh now Dylan in Ireland that's called a slagging and you're considered a "big-girl's blouse" if ye can't take it with a grin :DQuote:
Originally Posted by DylanN89
big girl's blouse
lol I love that expression
Dylan, please read my above post. Peace.
Really Dylan, if that's your trip enjoy, personally I'm not into the guilt trip and as I believe I said before, the Biblical God I find rather offensive - Let's see it's a kind loving God - who if you don't do what he wants tortures, kills and abuses, Sorry I could never worship anything like that - It's a lot like our current president, a fine Christian man, who I'm sure believes "thou shalt not kill" unless it's for his own purposes, It's just all so hypocritical but believe what suits you, It is still one of the wonderful things about this country.
One question tho, after Cain killed Abel, according to the Bible, he went to a far away land and came back with a wife, could you possibly concede that maybe, just maybe, the Bible might just be a tribal story handed down from generation to generation - I dunno I guess I think too much about these things - and I really don't expect you to sweat it to much based on your statements it appears you have already closed your mind to any other possible ideas - but please don't ever assume what your God might do to me, cuz personally I don't care - If it works for you great - I just see it quite a bit differently.
Oh and my other question? which Bible there are more than one and they are just a bit different!!!!
And the Devil????? That's even sillier to me, but it's just one mans opinion. You don't have to care for it - but at least I own my opinion and I know Why - and no offense one book (although the biggest best-seller in history) has NEVER constituted proof! Especially when written by men!
And really I'm not trying to piss you off, and if it does you take it too personally and should have never posted your arguement, statement or whatever you'd like it called (personally it sounded like a lecture) whenever a person decides to question someones beliefs they should always be prepared to defend them!
I great book to read "the dead sea scrolls ; deception"
Never got too far into it, i dont really have enoguh abckgroudn knowaldge to relate eveyrtihg, but i got the jist enuff to re-fortify what i have generally already concluded.
Jus thte basics.
Wow does it kinda push your mind to fully realsie how currupt and bais the catholic church is
Ohh,
Cesar
feel like saying again;
bible has been heavily edited over the centuries by whoever for whatever reason (red pen of god?)
so to take literally something that was written two thousand years ago and fucked with ever scince is like taking every bit of advice youve been given as gospel.
ever said to yourself "did i really say that?"
progress and learning, one of mankinds core attributes is totally negated by getting literal with the bible, or koran, or mad magazine etc.
now bow down and worship at my sandalled toe little humans. :mad:
i (like a few others) am a very vengeful god and i demand homage
(or i will dissapear in a puff of logic from lack of beleivers)
Wow well i gotta say this is a great thread ive never met alot of bud smokers that still use their brains im glad im not the only one. This is for DylanN89 i hope your still reading this. Yes i have read the bible the whole way through. I went to a catholic school for 9 years and never missed a sunday of curch untill my parents illegally sent me to a prison in mexico for smoking weed because it was againts theirs(and your god). I actually just spent about 15 minutes writing on how ridiculous it was for my parents to send me there but i deleted it all because it sounded like what you were doing.... preaching. So right now i am simply going to lay down some things that i noticed so you and others can look at it and decide what you think. Well i must say those sermons on the fiery hell we will all face if we dont change now was ok but i laughed out load when i saw the way you added in right after oh and smoke weed. I ask you why.... why are you so worried for us if we dont believe in god talk of fire doesnt scare us. When i die if i see a god i will look him straight in the eyes and say i never saw you in my life and if thats my fault then send me to the deepest pit in hell. I dont worry about this though because i dont see it happening. You on the other hand live you life by it which astounds me on how you would bring weed into your talks of god and your faith. This is why---smoking marijuana destroys your lungs self inflicted injury to the divine masterpiece god made known as you SIN#1 its putting a foreign substance into your body SIN#2 you are blurring the perfect view of the world you creator gave you(disputable by some religions) SIN#3 lastly you are preaching for god then you tell them right after to break all these laws. If that isnt a ticket straight to hell keep reading. Ok but you can repent oh isnt that great they finally decided that was ok then changed the church laws accordingly. But not important you repent but you keep breaking these laws your divine lord made for you knowing your breaking them. If you just break laws over and over again then repent without even trying to make full effort to change your ways is a mortal sin a sin you can not get out of a sin you will go to hell for no matter what you do. Now with that out there it leads me to believe you havent even read the bible and that you dont listen in church at all. In fact when i read the bible and actually started listening to the readings i stopped believing in god. The bible is so rediculous the author(i know is supposed to be god himself) cant decide what kind of god you have one minute he is going to destroy every one on earth in a flood the next hes going to destroy a whole city of sinners which the whole world is. Then he decides hes a loving and caring god and is always gently calling you to his side and forgive you no matter what you do. If you just listen to some readings for a month god goes through mood swings about 7 times. Now this leads me even further to believe that you are the most ignorant closed minded person i have ever heard of. And people like you are what i believe really causes all the "evil" in the world and an imaginary demon with horns. Ignorant people doing things off of things they dont even really know about. Like people who fight so hard to keep marijuana illegal then legalize one of the most addictive drugs on earth alcohol. You try to come into an intellectual conversation knowing nothing about your own beliefs and tell every one they are going to suffer the most horrible eternity imaginable burning in hell. Im not trying to insult you ignorant is simply not knowing stupidity is choosing not to know or not to learn. So just try to look at how contradictory your own statements are about a religion itself that is contadictory all i want you to do is think about and learn more about you say you believe. Oh and if you dont even consider what i have said in this your already being stupid.
Fair game the Devil is working in you to rebel against god. And wants you not to believe but you cant let him do that you must fight him in hard ways.
Your gonna say that and then tell me that evolving from animals or all life starting from a random event is not possible. I'll admit they sound crazy but what you believe is just as far out there as what we all believe if not more out there.
Dylan is only 15years old, so that kinda explains a lot :rolleyes:
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=6407
please i dont need to hear how old u are or anyone else. No one cares. And stop talking shit. about how old i am. getting old and IMMATURE. :)
Don't fret yourself Dylan~lol~Quote:
Originally Posted by DylanN89
We all thought we knew it all at that age - what I'm saying is stay open
Explore all possibilities :)
Wow that explains too much. Learn some shit, doesnt have to be about god just about anything 15 is when you really just start to learn about life anyway.
this is good advice for anyone at any age! rawk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lulu
anyway, christianity had it's bloody reign for the past 2000 years. i think it's time for some new ideas. :cool:
"Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and tortuous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we called it the word of a demon, than the word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind; and, for my part, I sincerely detest it, as I detest anything that is cruel."
Thomas Paine The Age of Reason
Yes I read. I have read it at least 3 times. It is full of lies which has been proven even the Catholic Church has addmitted that.I do belive in something,but I do not belive that any of religions have a monopoly on god. The bible says God abandoned us after the first flood,leaving Satan in charge.(the devil is just an exscuse for the bad things we do.IMO)We know the bible has been changed by man at least twice(what do you think God forgot something).
PS I know my name appears at the top I am pretending that its a letter.
BCBUDBOY