best 9/11 theory yet

haha you people are ridiculous..."stop getting your info from Fox News"...yet you think www.bushblewupthetowers.com is more credible? please. if you want to talk about the media, the real truth is that, aside from Fox, the world media is as liberal as it gets and likes to criticize America/Bush every chance it can. just look at its coverage of Iraq. if there was any ounce of truth in these allegations, the mass media would be on it like white on rice.

"Men who rely on conspiracy theories are men unable to face the truth"

i challenge anyone who believes in these theories to talk with firefighters (email me with questions if you want), engineers, construction workers, or anyone else who would be an authority on the issue and see what they say. or read the March 2005 issue of Popular Mechanics where they listed every 9/11 theory ('pod on the plane', demolition, WTC 7, 'buring jet fuel cant melt steel', etc) and all were proven false by real professionals like NASA scientists, not unemployed idiots who create BS websites off info they found off other BS websites...and you guys want to talk about credible information.

Thats way to easy though. You got paranoid conspiracy followers like pissy that "know the truth" and his mindless followers like Irnman.....now this cream of the crop REALLY knows what happened! :thumbsup:

I was in lower NYC on 9/11, and met an architect on my way home in the subway - soon after the 2nd plane hit. He KNEW that the buildings would collapse well before they went down He even described to me exactly how they would collapse. That blew me away, because EXACTLY what he said happened a little while later.

I wish that they would have used more asbestos when they built it, but thousands of lives still would have been lost.

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Originally Posted by BoyNamedSue

haha you people are rediculous..."stop getting your info from Fox News"...yet you think www.bushblewupthetowers.com is more credible? please. if you want to talk about the media, the real truth is that, aside from Fox, the world media is as liberal as it gets and likes to criticize America/Bush every chance it can. just look at its coverage of Iraq. if there was any ounce of truth in these allegations, the mass media would be on it like white on rice.

"Men who rely on conspiracy theories are men unable to face the truth"

i challenge anyone who believes in these theories to talk with firefighters (email me with questions if you want), engineers, construction workers, or anyone else who would be an authority on the issue and see what they say. or read the March 2005 issue of Popular Mechanics where they listed every 9/11 theory ('pod on the plane', demolition, WTC 7, 'buring jet fuel cant melt steel', etc) and all were proven false by real professionals like NASA scientists, not unemployed idiots who create BS websites off info they found off other BS websites...and you guys want to talk about credible information.

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Oh no, this group of asswipes tried to tell me that Popular Mechanics was a government ran organization....right along with anybody else that doesn't agree with their stupid shit!

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

Thats way to easy though. You got paranoid conspiracy followers like pissy that "know the truth" and his mindless followers like Irnman.....now this cream of the crop REALLY knows what happened! :thumbsup:

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AHHH psycho dont tell on me. i wont do it again, I just dont want to be demoted, please be nice to a fellow brownshirt.

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Originally Posted by BoyNamedSue

haha you people are ridiculous..."stop getting your info from Fox News"...yet you think www.bushblewupthetowers.com is more credible? please. if you want to talk about the media, the real truth is that, aside from Fox, the world media is as liberal as it gets and likes to criticize America/Bush every chance it can. just look at its coverage of Iraq. if there was any ounce of truth in these allegations, the mass media would be on it like white on rice.

"Men who rely on conspiracy theories are men unable to face the truth"

i challenge anyone who believes in these theories to talk with firefighters (email me with questions if you want), engineers, construction workers, or anyone else who would be an authority on the issue and see what they say. or read the March 2005 issue of Popular Mechanics where they listed every 9/11 theory ('pod on the plane', demolition, WTC 7, 'buring jet fuel cant melt steel', etc) and all were proven false by real professionals like NASA scientists, not unemployed idiots who create BS websites off info they found off other BS websites...and you guys want to talk about credible information.

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hey another sighn of intelligent life here... good to see

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

Oh no, this group of asswipes tried to tell me that Popular Mechanics was a government ran organization....right along with anybody else that doesn't agree with their stupid shit!

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you cant win. whats interesting is that i read an interveiw with one of the editors from PM that did the issue and he was saying that the original goal was to see if any of these theories held weight (they'd obviously sell a lot of issues if they did), but after looking into them, they realized that all of these theories could easily be proven false. anyone who thinks PM is run by the government is so far gone theres no point in debating with them.

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Originally Posted by pabloescobar209

hey another sighn of intelligent life here... good to see

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You figured out how 2 spell BELIEVE yet?

i mean come on, if your going to get a good conspiricy theory then get one you cant easily disprove.

I feel so much better now that you all say no conspiracy...Thanks fellow brownshirts

go ahead and keep up the elitist attitude. but if you continue posting childish things like that without any real facts to support your theories, it just makes you look anything but.

Yes sir- Agent Suefag

you proved my point.

if i made a website that explained how Honduras was behind 9/11, youd probably believe that too. sheep.

ur the fucking sheeppple boynamefag imean agent suefag---go suck on it hahahahahahahahahah i really dont care about what happen with 911 buttplug so goes fuck ur self girlnamedumbass

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Originally Posted by BoyNamedSue

go ahead and keep up the elitist attitude. but if you continue posting childish things like that without any real facts to support your theories, it just makes you look anything but.

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no offense, but, dude, you're the one with the bigass gun in your hand looking like your about to shoot someone you don't agree with.

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Originally Posted by BoyNamedSue

obviously none of you have read the 9/11 commission report or the Popular Science issue where all of the points made on that website and others were thrown out and explained by professionals. just myself, as a person who works in fire protection, i can tell you that half that stuff is complete crap.

have any of you seen a building demolition? it takes about 3 months to prep the building, it must be stipped to the steel and it take hundreds of personnel to complete. i think the workers in the WTC would catch on if they saw huge teams of people running around the towers ripping apart walls and wiring explosives. its not as easy as you think.

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Thank you!
Half the people who babble about all this conspiricy bullshit down know wtf they are talking about "It didnt sound like a plane it sounded more like a missile!" well I'm sure everyone who says that has a degree in in aeronotics and knows EXACTLY what a missile sounds like, even throught they've never seen/heard one in there life! Makes me sick how so many people talk out of their asses just to sound smart and educated.

with all respect guys, boynamedsue seems to be the only one with any common sense. all i know is on that day a few years ago i saw two aircraft full of innocent people, flown into two massive buildings with innocent people inside, being flown by some nutty muslim fanatics, forget any bullshit theorys about how it was george bush's fault, or americas foriegn policys, or the buildings being rigged with explosives. but believe whatever you want to

in all honesty, I have to agree with boynamedsue, but I think it's alright for people to form these conspiricy ideas, you know, freedom of speech.

Okay I do believe that it is our fault that we were attacked, you know the CIA probably paid to train the terrorists that hijacked the planes, now THAT isn't bullshit. We were funding Al-Qaeda back in pre bush days.

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Originally Posted by daZenfmeister

Okay I do believe that it is our fault that we were attacked, you know the CIA probably paid to train the terrorists that hijacked the planes, now THAT isn't bullshit. We were funding Al-Qaeda back in pre bush days.

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that's not even an opinion, that's a complete fact

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Originally Posted by king kong bong

check it out....

http://www.cam.net.uk/home/nimmann/peace/explosions.htm

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best "theory"?

2 planes fuckin crashed in these towers

we call that terrorism

it was planned since years

wtf is this lol

Aircraft did hit the tower that day. They were 767's, and not 747's. I don't believe Bush set this up himself, but I do think he knew about it way in advance, and did nothing. And why were all the Jews told not to go to work in the towers on that day?

A lot of fuel would have been lost before the aircraft penetrated the building, but all the fuel in the centre tank (in the fuselage) would have gone into the building. The problem is that standard procedure is to fill the wing tanks first, then the centre tanks, but they usually fill the centre tanks up to balance the aircraft, and there was also a scare where running the fuel pumps on an empty tank will cause the tank to explode because of the flammable vapour in there.

I don't know where these aircraft were originally supposed to be flying to???

Airlines calculate exactly how much fuel is needed for a flight, taking into account wind direction, temperature, altitude and load. They carry extra fuel for a 45 minute diversion. If these were domestic flights then there would have been hardly any fuel in there.

On the subject of high-rise buildings, there have been many fires in China involving tall buildings. Some have collapsed due to heat softening the steel.

There was an incident here many years ago that involved a gas explosion in a block of council flats. It happened high up, but brought all the floors above and below down like a pack of cards. It was a design fault of the building, and despite the firm claiming how safe these buildings were, all gas was banned in council flats for many years.

My favourite conspiracy is the one involving the Pentagon. As there is no footage showing a 757 hitting the building, and no evidence of a plane.

9/11 happened. Its time to move on.

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Originally Posted by Synthesizer Man

9/11 happened. Its time to move on.

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my thoughts exactly

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Originally Posted by king kong bong

check it out....

http://www.cam.net.uk/home/nimmann/peace/explosions.htm

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that's quite possibly the most paranoid american theory i've heard yet. the explosion of jet fuel had enough power to take down the buildings. many people think that because of the buildings architectural stand-point, that the building should have atleast still been standing, but it's because of the way it's built that it collapsed.

This thread got FUUUUUCKKK K upppppedddd...Question...Why were top pentagon officials warn not to fly on 911.
Why was Mayor Willy Brown & Salman Rushdie warn not to fly on 911(LOOK IT UP).
Why was the guy that wired $100,000 dollars to 911 hijacker Mohamned Atta, having breakfast with U.S. Government official(look it up,this really happen).
Why was the Bin-laden family allowed to fly out of America on 911 without being interrogated first.(look it up)
Why was Bush wanting to limited the congressional investigation into 911.
How did Osama Bin Forgotten able to make NORAD to stand down on 911.(look it up)
Why did they(FBI) take the Security Videos from the hotel & gas station that were facing the pentagon.(look it up)
Larry Silverstien the owner of the WTC said on PBS that they pulled building 7.(look it up)
Bush thwarted the FBI from investigating Bin-laden b4 911.
Why did Our govt ignore all the warnings about a terrorist attack about to occur on US soil.(look it up)
Why on Sept 7 2001, did Mr. Jeb Bush feel the need to sign an executive order NO. 01-261(look it up)allowing him to declear martial law in the state of Florida?
Why was bush blocking independent investigators to examine the wreckage of AA flight 77
How about them five Israelis that were arrested on 911.
Why did bush lie about seeing the first plane hit when no video showed up until later....
Like I said i dont care..I was just wondering since you all know everything about everything you all can help me out with these questions.....

if the two towers wasn't setup then how did so many people film it?

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Originally Posted by 3rdEyeVision

if the two towers wasn't setup then how did so many people film it?

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because there's countless ferries running tourist trips around it. not to mention there's.... let see..... about 6 or 7 people in that area of new york.

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Originally Posted by Irnman

This thread got FUUUUUCKKK K upppppedddd...Question...Why were top pentagon officials warn not to fly on 911.
Why was Mayor Willy Brown & Salman Rushdie warn not to fly on 911(LOOK IT UP).
Why was the guy that wired $100,000 dollars to 911 hijacker Mohamned Atta, having breakfast with U.S. Government official(look it up,this really happen).
Why was the Bin-laden family allowed to fly out of America on 911 without being interrogated first.(look it up)
Why was Bush wanting to limited the congressional investigation into 911.
How did Osama Bin Forgotten able to make NORAD to stand down on 911.(look it up)
Why did they(FBI) take the Security Videos from the hotel & gas station that were facing the pentagon.(look it up)
Larry Silverstien the owner of the WTC said on PBS that they pulled building 7.(look it up)
Bush thwarted the FBI from investigating Bin-laden b4 911.
Why did Our govt ignore all the warnings about a terrorist attack about to occur on US soil.(look it up)
Why on Sept 7 2001, did Mr. Jeb Bush feel the need to sign an executive order NO. 01-261(look it up)allowing him to declear martial law in the state of Florida?
Why was bush blocking independent investigators to examine the wreckage of AA flight 77
How about them five Israelis that were arrested on 911.
Why did bush lie about seeing the first plane hit when no video showed up until later....
Like I said i dont care..I was just wondering since you all know everything about everything you all can help me out with these questions.....

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are you the fucking secret service?!?! get the hell out of here, snitch!

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Originally Posted by Ganj

are you the fucking secret service?!?! get the hell out of here, snitch!

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NO**30...Homeland Security!---wanna join? www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/economy & link up to applications

You know, I am 50/50 on all this shit. Now I don't post much anymore, I just listen now, but this debate has become hot and I will post my opinion....

1. I believe it was real becuz it looked real enuff and the bombs story would play out proportionally right. Secondly, why in gods FUCK would the U.S. (yes, even Bush) kill thousands of innocent people just to "find the guy that did it"????

2. I beleive it was fake becuz the "side-stories" are very believeable and maybe Sadam and Bush "made a deal" in which Bush took down the towers (maybe becuz of population or taxes, not to mention all the illegal communication and proccessing that not even the gov. could handle. And so Bush blamed it on Saddam to ensure cover-up for the public (with Saddam) and to give him many years and finally sentence him into the prison for life situation or else they would interfere anyways and sentence him to death. I mean c'mon, even Saddam isn't stupid enuff to fucking be SO SO cautious and all of a sudden fucking end up in a goddamn dirthole. He isn't stupid enuff to do that. Even if the enemy just spots u ur fucked bcuz the only way to go is up---towards the guns.


Those r my 2 cents. As you can see, I beleive it was fake. If it was not Bush, then maybe I would change my mind.............


And please realize I don't base my opinion purely on Bush....

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Originally Posted by Irnman

NO**30...Homeland Security!---wanna join? www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/economy & link up to applications

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hmm...homeland security would give me enough experience to begin america's autocracy, ruled by me. sure, i'll look into it and, thanks for the link.

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Originally Posted by BoyNamedSue

obviously none of you have read the 9/11 commission report or the Popular Science issue where all of the points made on that website and others were thrown out and explained by professionals. just myself, as a person who works in fire protection, i can tell you that half that stuff is complete crap.

have any of you seen a building demolition? it takes about 3 months to prep the building, it must be stipped to the steel and it take hundreds of personnel to complete. i think the workers in the WTC would catch on if they saw huge teams of people running around the towers ripping apart walls and wiring explosives. its not as easy as you think.

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the 9/11 commission report was just to make money and why do you buy their story without asking any questions?

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Originally Posted by canbliss

1. I believe it was real becuz it looked real enuff and the bombs story would play out proportionally right. Secondly, why in gods FUCK would the U.S. (yes, even Bush) kill thousands of innocent people just to "find the guy that did it"????

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why not, its all about money. everyone is expendable, to them.

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Originally Posted by king kong bong

why not, its all about money. everyone is expendable, to them.

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out of everyone's answer, i agree with king kong. everyone can say what they want, but it comes down to money, power, and control.

so i guess me and irnman are conspiracy nuts then huh? so irnman what do you think, sheep?

i used to buy the feds' conspiracy theory of 19 freedom hating hijackers shouting allah who couldn't fly planes...

but that explains so little of the entire spectrum of 9/11...the put options, the warnings not to fly (willie brown, joint chiefs, ashcroft), buildling 7 and larry silverstein admitting they destroyed it with demolition, wtc 1 and 2 turning to dust in mid-air, the power downs of 1 and 2 in the weeks before 9/11...it goes on and on and on and on...

and the freedom hating hijacker conspiracy theory doesn't explain it.

all signs, in my opinion, point to an inside job, a criminal element inside the government...who had a lot more means, motive and opportunity than some 'freedom hating terrorists...'...like a homeland security dictatorship at home, weapons sales to other countries (future enemies)...more federal funding, WAR, oil...lots of motives...more realistic than 'hating freedom'...

if the terrorists hate freedom, who are the terrorists when our government decides you have no 4th amendment anymore in NYC and the government can take your property away without just compensation? or did the muslims make those decisions...

pisshead you are a conspiracy nut cuz you think for yourself. go figure.

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Originally Posted by king kong bong

so i guess me and irnman are conspiracy nuts then huh? so irnman what do you think, sheep?

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BAAAAAAAAAAAA Im just a sheep KKB What do i know Boynamegirl said im a sheep so it must be true BAAAAAAAAAA...I know one thing i never believe that 19 cavemen story.. I mean really why did they ignore all the warnings from countless of people & nations... Why did dumbassbush try to stop any investigations into 911.. And the pentagon why only 1 video of what they say is a plane-----come-on the pentagon it has security cameras all over the place... Really the real sheeppple are the ones who believe the govt official conspiracy theory..These people here didnt even know where iraq was on the map until we invaded them, they might not even know what planet we are on unless our govt tells'em... My cat is alot smarter then these fools-- ohh are govt says osama did it so it must be true..

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Originally Posted by pisshead

i used to buy the feds' conspiracy theory of 19 freedom hating hijackers shouting allah who couldn't fly planes...

but that explains so little of the entire spectrum of 9/11...the put options, the warnings not to fly (willie brown, joint chiefs, ashcroft), buildling 7 and larry silverstein admitting they destroyed it with demolition, wtc 1 and 2 turning to dust in mid-air, the power downs of 1 and 2 in the weeks before 9/11...it goes on and on and on and on...

and the freedom hating hijacker conspiracy theory doesn't explain it.

all signs, in my opinion, point to an inside job, a criminal element inside the government...who had a lot more means, motive and opportunity than some 'freedom hating terrorists...'...like a homeland security dictatorship at home, weapons sales to other countries (future enemies)...more federal funding, WAR, oil...lots of motives...more realistic than 'hating freedom'...

if the terrorists hate freedom, who are the terrorists when our government decides you have no 4th amendment anymore in NYC and the government can take your property away without just compensation? or did the muslims make those decisions...

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still, you continue to list things that have been discussed thousands of times over the last 4 years and have been dissproved by simple science and reason. when someone can bring a real theory to the table, with a real motive, and a real source of information, i think people might be willing to listen to you guys. but when you keep up the same "9/11 In Plane Sight" crap that was tossed out years ago, everyone will just keep rolling their eyes.

and King Kong Bong, are you saying that people who dont believe these theories cant think for themselves? how about you? did you come up with these theories all on your own spending hundreds of hours on scientific research to draw your conclusion? its time to be real with yourself. you got your "theories" from half-rate indy websites and you have the nerve to say they cant think for themselves.

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Originally Posted by Irnman

BAAAAAAAAAAAA Im just a sheep KKB What do i know Boynamegirl said im a sheep so it must be true BAAAAAAAAAA...I know one thing i never believe that 19 cavemen story.. I mean really why did they ignore all the warnings from countless of people & nations... Why did dumbassbush try to stop any investigations into 911.. And the pentagon why only 1 video of what they say is a plane-----come-on the pentagon it has security cameras all over the place... Really the real sheeppple are the ones who believe the govt official conspiracy theory..These people here didnt even know where iraq was on the map until we invaded them, they might not even know what planet we are on unless our govt tells'em... My cat is alot smarter then these fools-- ohh are govt says osama did it so it must be true..

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until you have your own personal research on how you came up with this stuff or you can cite credible sources....it means nothing.

if bush ignored the warnings, show me the transcripts

if you say the pentagon has so many cameras, tell me how many and where they are