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Do I go around calling you a fucking pussy bitch too scared to try the 'real' drugs?
No, because to do so would be far from the truth. So shut the fuck up and refrain from calling those of us who use other drugs 'crack heads' and 'stupid fuckin tweakers'. You fucking pot head loser.
If you havn't used a drug don't say shit about it or the people that do, it's plain ignorance.
uuuuuuuu this has to be da drug lord.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nullific
you know no shit 'bout drugs.
and you ARE "crack heads" and the other thing you said..
you say: if we try the "shit"s, we'll not feel like this and we'll respect them.
i don't care about you son. you are a joke..
you're out of control in stupidity...
No, I am not a crack head. Though I have smoked crack on multiple occassions I find the feeling it produces isn't worth the price, no way I could afford to use it even once a week.
No, I did not say:
I said,Quote:
if we try the "shit"s, we'll not feel like this and we'll respect them
In other words it isn't any of your business what people put into their bodies be it marijuana, lsd or heroin. If you havn't used the drug you probably don't know anything about it. I research every drug I try before I try it. I have a reputation on this board for providing truthful, reliable information about a wide variety of substances. If anybody is a joke, if anybody don't "no shit 'bout drugs" it is you darling.Quote:
If you havn't used a drug don't say shit about it or the people that do, it's plain ignorance.
no you're not a crackhead because you don't have enough money. you're just trying to be a crackhead. and this is worse then being a crackhead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nullific
fuck the board man. just be yourself. you have a really fucked up reputation in my mind. you don't know shit, and you don't respect..
i'll be fasting tomorrow, so i have to sleep now. but i'll miss you monkey boy..
Sorry to interupt but...
ilyas and OzzyOz your both a bunch of stupid pricks. Fuck off.
y should they fuck off, cos they belive that cocaine and herion are bad for you? its about time someone criticied those and other dirty ass drugs. what some people dont seem to get is that those drugs will fuck up any1 who is foolish enough to keep taking them. im sure that injecting herion or snorting coke makes u feel fucking amazing, but thats the problem with them, to say that someone is ignorant because they criticise drugs that fuck up thousands of lives world wide everyday is, well ignorant. but its your bodies, do as you will, just dont expect any 'spare parts' like a new heart, liver lungs or whatever when u inevitably need them in the future! weed aint harmless, but all in all, its alot safer than that other shit. ignorant?-you bet i am!
Don't tell me what I am bitch how can you even say that I am "trying to be a crackhead"? How can you say that I speak like a kid and then turn around and call me 'monkey boy'? What kind of a demented fuck are you?Quote:
no you're not a crackhead because you don't have enough money. you're just trying to be a crackhead. and this is worse then being a crackhead.
fuck the board man. just be yourself. you have a really fucked up reputation in my mind. you don't know shit, and you don't respect..
i'll be fasting tomorrow, so i have to sleep now. but i'll miss you monkey boy..
The only thing you have proven here is that you can't hold a valid argument.
Just about everywhere I go people are criticizing these 'dirty ass drugs'. People could use the same bullshit argument against marijuana smokers, saying "I am sure pot makes you feel fucking amazing and thats the problem with it". If you heard someone say that I am sure you would be quick to tell them to shut the fuck up.Quote:
its about time someone criticied those and other dirty ass drugs. what some people dont seem to get is that those drugs will fuck up any1 who is foolish enough to keep taking them. im sure that injecting herion or snorting coke makes u feel fucking amazing, but thats the problem with them, to say that someone is ignorant because they criticise drugs that fuck up thousands of lives world wide everyday is, well ignorant. but its your bodies, do as you will, just dont expect any 'spare parts' like a new heart, liver lungs or whatever when u inevitably need them in the future! weed aint harmless, but all in all, its alot safer than that other shit. ignorant?-you bet i am!
What I find ignorant is all of the people fallaciously stating that drugs fuck up peoples lives. I have little sympathy for drug addicts, if you can't handle the substance don't do it. In reality there is no instant addiction, sorry but you have to consciously make the decision to use a drug consecutively before physical withdrawals manifest upon its cessation.
Drug laws just make drugs like coke and heroin dirtier and expensive. They also make drugs easily available to minors who are not responsible enough to use them in moderation.
I never said coke and heroin were harmless, though they're negative effects are certainly exaggerated and exacerbated by prohibition. My arguments were not meant to apply to just coke or heroin, those are just the extremes. All posts about all drugs should be allowed, it is inane to pick and choose specific drugs to allow discussion of based soley on their presence in nature.
So you only want to see posts about cannabis, but some will argue other 'naturals' should be included and some will argue alcohol should be included. My point is that you can't correlate the safety of a drug and thus its 'postability' this way or in terms of 'hard'/'soft' because everybodies idea of what qualifies a drug as 'hard' is different.
It would be a major upset to many members if posts about alcohol were prohibited, especially seeing as how it is legal and marijuana is not. Alcohol is also a horribly intoxicating and addictive substance, with a risk of death of 1:1,000 users. Compare this to risk of death associated with MDMA and cocaine (1:100,000), Ketamine (1:100,000,000) and LSD (1:1,000,000).
The sad thing is there not all lies.Quote:
Originally Posted by ilyas
It's all depends on the scenario. I seen heroin addicts that hold down jobs and are completely healthy, and potheads that you would think are crack fiends.
You don't want to hang around people that hold those type of stereotypes anyway. You are simply attempting to be the anti-stereotype.
if i was offered acid or pot, i think i would take the acid, so its nice to learn and talk about the chemicles and such.
See thats the problem all the people who dont smoke weed say that when u smoke it your the devil or your so bad for smokeing that. But yet they either havent tryed it or tryed it once and dont rember it, and now they arnt doing that drug, but yet they judge u for doing it and say that it will lead to other drugs, but they arnt the one doing it so they have no idea what there talking about. If they did smoke it they would know that its not a gateway drug. And that it can have allot of positvie effects in ur life. Even change u if ur a hate full person :rasta: . Thats what these "kids" need to be learning from these forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by ermitonto
Sorry dudes im high but thats my 2 cents. :stoned:
i don't want to quote people, and show others how dumb a man can be. and i don't want to waste my time with so much bullshit-prayers, who has no idea what the fuck goes on around. not any more...
there are some idiots (they know themselves) who deserve mouthful of "good-will"s, but it's not fair to answer them, while not answering the brain-hand combination guy.
i just care about weed. the plant, the fibre, the adaptation, the shit (fertilizer), the soil, the sun, the water... eventually nature. so the aspect is the legalization of weed itself.
i don't care if the others will be legalized or not. but i'm sure legalizing weed alone is the only proper first step. and to reach that, people have to be convinced about the fact: weed is different.
i'll not even try to convince a fucked-up mind that thinks weed is more or less the same with the others. and i also feel ashamed for being together with the things, who defend the use of these substances. being a junkie would be a breakthrough for these fucks, to broaden their minds.
cannabis.com is a very important site for me in the legalization process. and these forementioned assholes are a great danger to the mission for sure.
i don't say this forum is full of ignorant people by looking at the poll results. because i know the fact people use their manipulated instincts, before their logic. whatever...
this thread is not about freedom of speech, so the third option guys will not be freedom fighters. everybody is free to express the thoughts, but if any of you say the bullshit about synthetics...
you saw what happened. :D :D :D :cool: :cool:
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Originally Posted by Nullific
You claim you are some mission to help further legalize weed, but yet you are calling people idiots for not agreeing with you. Good job making the cause looking good by name-calling, portraying deep rooted ignorance and not using facts to back up your claims, just mindless rhetoric.Quote:
Originally Posted by ilyas
What makes you think something natural = automatically good? Are you going to get Datura now? It's 100% natural, yet people don't do it. Why? It the most dangerous drug literally. You have ZERO control. None. You could take it and end up on San Francisco with Chinese man up your ass, and you wouldn't know how you got there. Are you going to wipe yourself with poison ivy? It's natural, therefore it must be good.
Do you see the thinking errors you are making? You don't help the cause more than these "synthetic crackheads."
Don't act like you are more superior than people who use other drugs, because you are exactly like those sober people who condemn marijuana, the people who keep marijuana illegal. They think exactly the same as you, through blind ignorance.
Am I denying that hard drugs can cause damage to ones self? Absolutely not. Unlike you, I experienced it first hand. If anyone should be talking shit about synthetic hard drugs, it's me, all the other "synthetic crackheads," not you. It's obvious you don't know jack shit about them and you don't look knowledgeable in the process.
If it's your choice to not use synthetic drugs, more power to you, you are strong. However talking shit and condemning them while condoning marijuana is I must say plain ignorant and you stoop to the level of those cowards you speak against.
I hope you frickin' wake up, learn to help the cause the right away, and go after the real enemy.
dude lighten up were here to have fun not get BANNED or some shit, just cool it and smoke man
Ilyas, you truly ARE an idiot. Stop talking.
Nullific IS a kid, but a smart one. I think you are right for the most part but there are things that we fundamentally disagree upon. You have mentioned several times that the individual is the one to control addiction, only you and your actions attritubute to your addiction, but the question is, how EASY is it to control addiction. You make it sound like it is a piece of cake. I hate to admit it, but there was a time when I thought I could get addicted to particular drug. I am an intelligent woman with a good bringing, always got drug grades, always had a good job. I never felt that something could control ME. Well, it didn't, but it could've. Do you think people who once had nice and normal lives actually WANT to be wasted junkie? No, they're in that predicament becuase the drug ended up controlling them. My point basically is that yes I agree we make the consciensce effort to go out and get the drug, but no we are not always able to control ourselves. It's simply not as easy as you make it to be.
you're out of your element thcbog. you didn't read the posts i sent, or you just simply didn't understand them.
i'm not calling people idiot, for not agreeing with me. i'm calling people who think weed is more or less the same as the others. (both natural or synthetics). So that makes sense for the mission. We'd never be able to legalize weed, if we say "weed is not different from LSD". And yes!! for me the one who says that, deserves to be called as an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by thcbongman
this one is a shame. i told about that several times, it's impossible to miss.Quote:
Originally Posted by thcbongman
i wrote this quote for nullific in the post #30 of this thread. and "sadly" i don't have to add a simple word now. the exact same sentence will do the job. :
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Originally Posted by ilyas
WTF makes you think i never tried them???? i didn't say that, and you don't know me.Quote:
Originally Posted by thcbongman
i'm sick of you guys. you just write so much bullshit so easily. and then you just don't answer the simple questions.
so the bullshit you wrote stays there forever, and you don't even feel guilty of blaming someone without the element.
i'm afraid of your kind. you don't judge before you react. you don't even read or listen before the answer. your instincts say "you're right, you deserve it, not anyoneelse." and you just follow them.
sorry man but you're not a danger to the mission, you're a danger to the earth...
hey man that needle u gave me broke off and is now stuck in my eyeball, i want a refund
Good point, I don't doubt a drug addiction isn't easy to control and is probably best characterized as a disease. Some people probably just think it wont happen to them, these are the ones I worry about. The important thing is to recognize that you very well can become addicted to a drug. You're self-aware, that was your brain telling you to set the limits on yourself. In a perfect world everybodies brain would be just like yours is, but this is not a perfect world and some people like our buddy ilyas here just don't know the meaning of self-awareness.Quote:
You have mentioned several times that the individual is the one to control addiction, only you and your actions attritubute to your addiction, but the question is, how EASY is it to control addiction. You make it sound like it is a piece of cake. I hate to admit it, but there was a time when I thought I could get addicted to particular drug. I am an intelligent woman with a good bringing, always got drug grades, always had a good job. I never felt that something could control ME. Well, it didn't, but it could've. Do you think people who once had nice and normal lives actually WANT to be wasted junkie? No, they're in that predicament becuase the drug ended up controlling them. My point basically is that yes I agree we make the consciensce effort to go out and get the drug, but no we are not always able to control ourselves. It's simply not as easy as you make it to be.
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[align=left]I agree, anybody who says "weed is not different from LSD" is an idiot.Quote:
'm not calling people idiot, for not agreeing with me. i'm calling people who think weed is more or less the same as the others. (both natural or synthetics). So that makes sense for the mission. We'd never be able to legalize weed, if we say "weed is not different from LSD". And yes!! for me the one who says that, deserves to be called as an idiot.
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this one is a shame. i told about that several times, it's impossible to miss.
i wrote this quote for nullific in the post #30 of this thread. and "sadly" i don't have to add a simple word now. the exact same sentence will do the job.
I believe he is refering to:The disagreement was never really about safety of cannabis, I believe other drugs can be used just as safetly. I even believe cannabis has its own array of negative consequences. Maybe you forgot the topic of your own thread, "What do you think, the forum should do to chemical drugs related topics?". My response, for the sixth or seventh time, was that you should leave them the fuck alone and not anger me with your anti-'chemical' drug rhetoric.
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i don't say naturals are safer, i say weed is safe!! it's so simple, that i wrote it this way
Is the problem really with us, or your rationalizations? I may be an asshole but the only shit here is comming from you. You posted blatant misinformation about Dronabinol, seem entirely unaware of the consequences of the prohibition of all drugs and...shit man just look at some of your responses to my comments.Quote:
i'm sick of you guys. you just write so much bullshit so easily. and then you just don't answer the simple questions.
so the bullshit you wrote stays there forever, and you don't even feel guilty of blaming someone without the element.
i'm afraid of your kind. you don't judge before you react. you don't even read or listen before the answer. your instincts say "you're right, you deserve it, not anyoneelse." and you just follow them.
sorry man but you're not a danger to the mission, you're a danger to the earth...
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they have THC in controlled dosages. but you have to face the side-effects. and you'll be addicted too. this seems to me like a great difference between THC and mj.
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i don't believe any bullshit about anything, but i'm sure i don't believe your bullshit.
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your motto is nothing, not more than an idea of an asshole. these are what i think. and i'm saying it. and you're saying i'm saying it too.
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what should i do now? cry?? because your fucking brain could still made your hands move. come on.. you have to be more than 15.
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Now the funny part. you are a kid without knowledge and you don't want to learn neither. opium is created for you. so you can just fuck off and sleep without saying anything.
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go finish yourself, jerk off!!!!
I could go on.Quote:
no you're not a crackhead because you don't have enough money. you're just trying to be a crackhead. and this is worse then being a crackhead.
In closing I say, if you don't like posts about other drugs don't read them or reply unless you have some real input. It really eats holes in my brain when someone makes a post about lets say cocaine and several kids find the need to post something like "I just stick with the herb yo" or "nahh man dont touch that shit". There is no need for that, there is no need to censor posts about other drugs. You say it is bad for your 'mission'? You think regular people just come to this site to form their opinion about marijuana legalization?
Take a look at the Sexuality forum, if seeing posts about other drugs makes people think all stoners are drug addicts they'll be in for a real shocker when they get to the thread about sucking your own dick.
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Maybe they should be posting on the other psychotropics board.
For the most part they are, seeing as how the forum is specifically dedicated to "discussion of other psychotropic substances, such as LSD, DXM, DMT, Mushrooms, Ecstasy, etc."
But appearently users may also post their other drug experiences in the 'Experiences' forum.
Ron words the description this way "Share your psychedelic experiences and trips with cannabis and/or other substances; tripping stories."
If a mod comes across a thread that is obviously in the wrong forum I am sure they'll be kind enough to move it. If you see a thread that you think doesn't belong then why not contact a mod about it yourself if it is that important to you?
no offense
but some of these drug topics make us "herbivores" look really bad :-(
it's like, "Umm... how do i make a crack pipe?"
and stuff like that...
Well now everybody should be educated as to how to make a good crack pipe, for harm reductions sake. We can't have people using the wrong materials and spreading hepatitis C, or worse yet using poorly constructed devices that will burn and waste cocaine.
Considering you have coherency of a tweaker, I don't know anymore LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by ilyas
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Nullific
haha
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I didn't care about this poll topic (because of the crackheads and their wannabees) for a long time, till i saw this thread about (criminalization of the unnaturals in cannabis.com:)) a thread for crack:
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=42381
There were lots of reactions to Lulu, because of the deletion of a very popular crack thread. But I didn't catch an answer to these :D.
Maybe I did the wrong thing here, I shouldn't talk with the "crackers".
It's a very revealing feeling, that at least one of the moderators think in the way I do. And cares about the cannabis culture & legalization cause more than the majority.
By the way; that 8 out of 34 votes, is more than inspiring...