Okay now...End of the World..?

"To speak of 'limits to growth' under a capitalistic market economy is as meaningless as to speak of limits of warfare under a warrior society. The moral pieties, that are voiced today by many well-meaning environmentalists, are as naive as the moral pieties of multinationals are manipulative. Capitalism can no more be 'persuaded' to limit growth than a human being can be 'persuaded' to stop breathing. Attempts to 'green' capitalism, to make it 'ecological', are doomed by the very nature of the system as a system of endless growth." —Murray Bookchin

There was a prophecy, I can't remember who the prophet was, but it was in a book that included Nostradamus and Lady Nadia. It said we will be experiencing fires, floods, earthquakes, and man-made disasters around the time of an Armageddon, or something like that (I read this 6 yrs. ago, or so), and this is sort of what we're going through. Most of the prophecies about the future, say there's life after 'this coming event' (whatever it may be), actually, all, I think. They all said that there would be major catastrophies before this "once in a lifetime, I mean, Universe" event. I'm not too clear on it, but you get my drift, you can look up all the prophecies, I'd like to hear them, again.

My view is that we're at it, and we can, not only make it through it but, make it better. None of the prophecies said it would be a "second-coming" or third, or whatever...
I think the people alive back then are us. I'm starting to believe in re-incarnation.

edit: when I say there was a "prophecy", up top, I mean, this is what "all" the prophecies, about today on, say. Not all. But all three or four that I read.

But you have to remember that there isn't a single time in the history of man when there wasn't fires and floods and earthquakes and other disasters. They're just part of life, and there's no reason to believe the disasters of today are any more meaningful than the disasters that have been occurring for billions of years.

were all gona die!! it will be like the latest episode of south park

JeeZASS!

Oh, really? The Aztecs? THE FUCKING AZTECS? These were people who thought a stomachache was caused by a family of goblins living in your stomache. SO NOW WE TRUST THEM IN KNOWING WHEN THE FUCKING WORLD ENDS!?!

Oh, and the Tsunamis, violence, wildfires, and people dying. Yeah, you see, that stuff has happened before. It'll happen again.

If that stuff means the world's ending, how's this? My kitty just had kittens! They're adorable! I could just play with them all day! And I'm about to get a nice 1/8 of some GOOD shit! And look outside. Do you see the storm that ISN'T happening?

Therefore, the world isn't ending. If bad stuff = end, then good stuff = not end. The equation looks the same as before. There's good shit happening, and there's bad stuff happening.

And hey, it's amazing how much easier breathing is when you PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS!




Oh, and I respect your opinion and all that.

the aztecks where some of the first people to use writen languge, and ritualy used halusagens to speak to spirtual guides. sure there belifes where a little strange, but who's isn't. they belived in the "day of the dead" where all things man made wil rise up against us and kill off man. the taking of the ibognane root, causes a spirtual trip where you see and speak to the spirit of the ibogas, a gholam like creature made of wood that would appear to you and show you the error of your ways. salvia has been known to show you a women "gardening" a healing spirit.

are you scared to die alone, STDzRus?

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Originally Posted by Funkamander

Do you see the storm that ISN'T happening?

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Yeah, actually, I can see the clouds if I look to the left of my computer, out my window.

Man, I never really thought about it. But the lady at work got me believing a little bit. We argued for about 2 hours and she proved a bunch of valid points that started to scare the shit out of me.

1. The size, strength, and number of hurricanes
   
   -climate change perhapse? I'm no scientist, but even if that's not the cause, remember that we're hearing about all these events more than ever. only recently do we get a national brodcast of every mudslide, flood, drougt, hurricane, plague, and crop circle. regardless, some excessive hurricanes doesn't mean the end of the world.
   
2. The tsunamis
   
   - What was there, like 2? there's a reason we even have the name tsunami, because they've happened before.
   
3. Wildfires
   
   - not uncommon at all.
   
4. The Pope Died
   
   - yeah, they tend to do that.
   
5. Mt. St. Helens is now active
   
   - my memory isn't too fresh in regards to the geological history of the earth, but I think there's been, oh, a couple volcanoes active in the past 6 billion years or so.
   
6. The new "flu" strain that is said to kill millions.
   
   - yep, just like the one that killed millions in the 1930's (perhapse it was 20's), or the black plague that wiped out 1/3 of Europe (I recall everybody was pretty sure that was the apocalypse too), or the massive floods and famines that have killed millions of chinese for the past several thousand years... nuts, I'm pretty sure there was one other historical event involving the death of many people, otherwise the past has been mostly rainbows and fully bunnies.
   
7. The massive earthquakes
   
   yep, historie's had its share of those.
   
8. The violence

all this terrorism and 2 small wars certainly is a lot of violence. certainly, it is unmatched by the crusades, ww2, ww1, chinese cultural revolution, nazi extermination of 11 million civilians, rawanda, 50 million killed/disappeared in soviet russia, multiple warlords in africa, ghengis kahn who conquered more land than anybody in history (all the way over to poland) and slaughtered all in his path on the way, the thousands of years of warring shoguns in japan, the roman/barbarian wars, the massive middle eastern wars to assert dominance in the cradle of civilization (babylon, now iraq), the US civil war, all the other civil wars, the brutal occupation of ireland and scotland by the british, vietnam, korea, russo-japan wars *deep breath*. yep, nothing in history as bad as today.

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Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs

Yeah, actually, I can see the clouds if I look to the left of my computer, out my window.

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The storm.

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One time a friend and I were playing with the Ouija board, and it told us that the end of The United States would come in 2044. When asked what the cause would be, its response was:

An oil drum will not be refilled.

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haha.i asked a ouija board when the world was coming to an end,it said 2004.it didnt happen and the ouija board was made by milton bradley.it's hard to go by what the bible says cuz the bible everyone has is an edited version.the real unedited one is out there somewhere.as for this new flu,come on,its man made just like any other disease out there.be on the lookout in 2006 for a new type of aids virus.the plan is to wipe out a few million minorities by 2008.on another note,has anyone ever seen the bible codes on the history channel.that shit is mad interesting.

The World is never gonna end. Something catastrophic may happen, but there will be survivors. Hopefully, the "may not" part comes true, and maybe our whole lives, we've been going through the worst of the worst, soon, maybe, we'll have our atmosphere under control and regulate our environments.

edit: I mean, soon there'll be sunny days... :confused:

that whole "bible code" stuff is old and disproven. you can proably take a stephen king novel and splice the letters into some secret message. after all, who's the genious who figured out how to do this? to actually write an entire holy book with all the word of god fully conveyed througout, but somehow all put together with entire other messages spliced into the original messages. you'd have to get together the most crafty and intelligent people in existence to make that work, the kind of people who can decipher military codes in 5 seconds by looking at it.

yea i know mr devious but you have to keep an open mind on everything.you have to come to your own conclusions.

IF u really think about it you can't prove the bible right or wrong jsut like you can't prove when the worlds going to end or if it is going to end, While i'm at it The bible has everything linked up and joined from the writers and the writers didnt have contact with each other so they couldnt jsut link it all up like that. I;m chosing the bible Man has tried to rule the wrold by his own views and passions and we can see by this we have fucked it up considerably ;) see how we dont legalise mj this is because we think we know all and this goes for various different things :cool:

unfortunatly the odds get bigger and bigger of a "life ending" astaroid slamming into the earth. it's happend before, wipping out the dinosours, and in anartica in 1883. we are on a ball spinning and whirrling around a rock laiden belt in our galaxy.

the only good news is that we should be long dead when it happens, and our sun is only going to last another 5,000 or so.

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Originally Posted by lateralus

Funny, I've been thinking about the same thing. Nature seems pissed off now, and the people in charge seem overwhelmingly unqualified. Coincidence? CONSPIRACY? o.0

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conspiracy! every human being has this fear that theres some widespread, high-powered plot, designed to ruin mankind - it's just a bunch of idiots (with money) running the countries.

if some heavy shit doesnt go down before or during 2012 i will be one suprised stoner

Ah, I say fuck the Earth...... we need a good culling..

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Originally Posted by king kong bong

yea i know mr devious but you have to keep an open mind on everything.you have to come to your own conclusions.

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I do keep an open mind on everything. I've never accepted something because it's popular opinion or the evidence seems to "prove" it. I analysed that particular claim, read the pionts and counter points, and came to the conclusion it's not true.

fair enough.i still havent made up my mind though.

It just seems that a pattern is developing, and with the Ozone layer thinning out, it's creating weird precipitation patterns, so the hurricane's will, probably, get worse.
But there's another reason for some hurricanes, and that has to do with Plate Tectonics, sending waves that becoming Tropical waves, then storms.
Also, an earthquake, deep in the Pacific, is responsible for the Tsunami, in Japan. Haley's comet misses us, on schedule, I don't think it's in the stars to destroy us. Our atmosphere burns up a lot of what space don't deteriorate. The Asteroids are the closest thing floating around that would crash into us.

I saw Haley's Comet with the naked eye, when I was 12. I missed it, the second time around.

one way or annother were all gonna die.

i think the end of the world happens to everybody when they die,.i dont see whats the big deal of oh god, ima die in 2012 ,because ur not missing out on ne thing when it happens, cuz everything will be gone so whates the point of worrying about all this

It's kinda sad, because I know what kind of person I am, and I want to go to heaven really bad, but I know if I find out the world is going to end I am probably going to commit several sins. Just because I know the worlds coming to and end. I'm just too impulive I need to relax. But seriously, if we all keep talking about it don't you think god is going to find out anyway and be like fuck it. I mean it's kind of like looking at your christmas presents and shit before christmas when you we're a little kid. It takes all of the fun out of it. And do you think god wants it that way? Fuck no, he wants to put on a pretty cool show when he brings this fucking planet down.

The Jehovah's Witness believe that essentially, we'll all live together, in peace on Earth. That's what I believe and God will let us know when it's time. Maybe that time will be soon, and Our generation is the one that never dies. :clap:

There came a woman of Samaria to draw water. Jesus said to her, "Give me a drink."
For his disciples had gone away into the city to buy food.

The Samaritan woman said to him, "How is it that you, a Jew, ask a drink of me, a woman of Samaria?" For Jews have no dealings with Samaritans.

Jesus answered her, "If you knew the gift of God, and who it is that is saying to you, `Give me a drink,' you would have asked him, and he would have given you living water."

The woman said to him, "Sir, you have nothing to draw with, and the well is deep; where do you get that living water?
Are you greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well, and drank from it himself, and his sons, and his cattle?"

Jesus said to her, "Every one who drinks of this water will thirst again,
but whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him will never thirst; the water that I shall give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to eternal life."

So the worlds ending? GREAT!!!!! We actually get a first hand view of the end! Do you have any idea of how popular we will all be in the after life? Were all gonna have tea with Jesus and Einstein.

Everyone always thinks the end of the world will come for many, many, many, MANY years, just because you have a good feeling, you think it'll happen?

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Originally Posted by Roadking

There came a woman of Samaria to draw water. Jesus said to her, "Give me a drink."
For his disciples had gone away into the city to buy food.

The Samaritan woman said to him, "How is it that you, a Jew, ask a drink of me, a woman of Samaria?" For Jews have no dealings with Samaritans.

Jesus answered her, "If you knew the gift of God, and who it is that is saying to you, `Give me a drink,' you would have asked him, and he would have given you living water."

The woman said to him, "Sir, you have nothing to draw with, and the well is deep; where do you get that living water?
Are you greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well, and drank from it himself, and his sons, and his cattle?"

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I'm not getting into it when people say no, what are you crazy? But, I think in ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^your post.
Jesus was talking about Herb.

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Originally Posted by Roadking

Jesus said to her, "Every one who drinks of this water will thirst again,
but whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him will never thirst; the water that I shall give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to eternal life."

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How do we really know that the climatic changes we are starting to see now haven't happened before ? Why do you think they call them the Dark Ages? And what happens to a car when it runs low on oil? The head cracks, who's to say that we aren't doing the same thing to mother earth? And wasn't the Bible that we are all spoon fed from birth revised by King James? Was this ppiece of litrature written to control the masses and prevent sex out of wedlock, or worse yet only for procreation. Whose to say that Jesus wasen't just a really good con-artist? Just a little gristle to get hung in your teeth. The world we live in is more than we know.

Im thinkin that this thread just proves my theory of this planet! My theory is simply this: There is NO SUCH THING AS GRAVITY!!! Rather, the EARTH... SUCKS!!! Harharhar - peace and big tokes everybody.

you know, all you people who think the world is going to end, you're right! so why waste your last years chatting in internet forums? go out, live your last moments!





and leaves the rest of us back here in peace.

the art of living in the present don't worry about the past dont be concerned with the future

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Originally Posted by puffhuff

And wasn't the Bible that we are all spoon fed from birth revised by King James?

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We "all" weren't spoon fed from birth a Bible revised by King James. I've never even seen one.

as you get older and older the bible, and the world at large becomes a moot point as you begin to enter your own personal world ending. when people mention the end of the world, old people just smile at you, knowing it all makes no difference.

No one believes the World is gonna end.

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Originally Posted by lateralus

One time a friend and I were playing with the Ouija board, and it told us that the end of The United States would come in 2044. When asked what the cause would be, its response was:

An oil drum will not be refilled.

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That is really scary!! i believe it though, of course oil would be the U.S.'s demise!

If the world sucks so bad maybe what it needs is a good blow job!!!!!!! Have fun till the bitter end!

hey i was just kiddin, really! I cant say that i believe in any one individual theory on religion OR how we're supposed to roll the final credits, BUT i will say that i have tried to live my life as honerable as possible - just as most everybody else does. having done so, i think no matter what happens i think we'll all see that "light at the end of the tunnel" ..... or is that just someone blazin up a big doobie?!?!?!?!