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if 'they' are muslims then their not so tolerant themselves, also my dads mixed race so i consider myself British mixed race and stop goin on about that shit that i know every member bollox i meant in general your so clever surely u knew that or did u mean everyone in Britiain is intolerant

you're just twisting shit now, i'm done with you.

abortion should be immediatly put through the ammendment process,and if it were to pass,be strictly regulated.

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Originally Posted by BobBong

you're just twisting shit now, i'm done with you.

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Thanks i feel so privilaged

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Originally Posted by mf greg

sorry people for all the opinion based questions, schools a bitch.
i was wondering what everybodys views on abortion is, when is a baby technically alive and do you consider it murder if somebody has an abortion?

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i think that it should be legal, however right now, it's too easy for someone to get an abortion. if a girl is under 18 she can get an abortion without parental consent, but if that girl wanted to go to the regular doctor, she would have to be 18. Now let's say there was an infection or something that went wrong with the abortion and the girl did need to go to the doctor, she would have to have a parent. i think that it is something serious and the person should be an adult of 18 to make the decision on their own. I think the process should take more paperwork and involve a doctor's referal be it a free walk-in clinic referal or doctor's office refferal, but it should really be regulated a little bit more.

hate the shit

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Originally Posted by Fengzi

7. Fuck any Bible thumper who wants to tell other people they can't get an abortion based on their own religous views. And for their sake, if they ever call me or especially my wife a "baby killer" they better damn well hope their really is a God to save their sorry ass.

That's what I think.

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Damn right.

any1 seen freddy got fingered

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Originally Posted by robert42

any1 seen freddy got fingered

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Daddy...would you like some sausage?

LMFAO

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Originally Posted by stonerpoet

Trust me the physcological impact was much more difficult on her then it was on you. As for my view of abortion, I think it's a womans right. No man has the right to tell a woman when and where to make a baby. Personaly I would only have one if I concived in a rape, other then that I couldnt.
By week 3 of your pregancy that baby has a heart beat. I couldnt kill my baby if it had a heart beat.
I know in the state of MI there making women see an ultra sound pic the night before the abortion and sending them home with the pic so they can be sure there sure.

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i forgot to mention that this was her fifth abortion, when she told me she wasnt pregnant she acted like it wasnt a big deal what so ever, totally unphased by it.

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Originally Posted by MyAntiDrugIsAmy

I think the process should take more paperwork and involve a doctor's referal be it a free walk-in clinic referal or doctor's office refferal, but it should really be regulated a little bit more.

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I dont understand. You think a doc should refer the patient to an abortion clinic? The doc referral is necessary why? You're either pregnant or you're not pregnant, you either want it or you dont, what's to regulate?
Abortion clinics make you go through a process of ultra sound, videos, and counselling before the procedure, and it generally is a 2 day procedure. Forcing a patient to get a referral seems pretty pointless considering the only thing you need to have an abortion is to be in early pregnancy and they can determine that quite quickly at the clinic.


Are people having abortions that were never pregnant in the 1st place or something? I really dont understand whats to regulate.

I dont even know what a chav is! I thought this thread was on abortion, not hypocricy.
I had an abortion over 20 yrs ago, and every child I have ever looked at has made me wonder what my child would have looked like. It was my choice, and with hindsite, which is always 20/20, I think it was one of the biggest mistake I ever made. The physical pain is minute compared with the psychological and emotional pain that stays with you forever.
The first choice women have is to use birth control, and my biggest regret is that I wasnt on any.

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Originally Posted by Ousted

I dont understand. You think a doc should refer the patient to an abortion clinic? The doc referral is necessary why? You're either pregnant or you're not pregnant, you either want it or you dont, what's to regulate?
Abortion clinics make you go through a process of ultra sound, videos, and counselling before the procedure, and it generally is a 2 day procedure. Forcing a patient to get a referral seems pretty pointless considering the only thing you need to have an abortion is to be in early pregnancy and they can determine that quite quickly at the clinic.


Are people having abortions that were never pregnant in the 1st place or something? I really dont understand whats to regulate.

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i may have said that wrong, but i'm too lazy to read back, but what i mean is that if you're under 18 you should have to have a referal, or parent consent before the abortion because otherwise you can't get shit taken care of.

and don't be a fuck face about it. what is being regulated is the fact that a decision like stopping a life is pretty crutial and ppl don't always think of that, some ppl (like some younger girls) see it as a second chance at using birth control cuz they forgot.

I think it's up to the mother to choose. And it's not like anti-abortion laws stop abortions, for much the same reason that anti-drug laws don't stop drugs. It just forces those too poor to afford a ticket to a place where it is legal to seek out highly unsafe illegal abortions. I think if a woman chooses to have this done to her, she should have access to a safe and affordable means to do it.

I think as a society we should be concerned by the number of abortions women have, but as ermitonto said it wont be accmoplished by anti-abortion laws but by education-letting women understand the psychological consequences of abortions, letting them know about other options that are available, such as adoption. Also, access to birth control is especially important, and because pre-marital sex is still considered taboo, women are relectant to talk to their doctors or parents about birth control methods. But I also think we should emphasize that people should wait before having sex until they are financially secure and in monogamous relationships and just able to take on the responsibility of having children.

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Originally Posted by MyAntiDrugIsAmy

i may have said that wrong, but i'm too lazy to read back, but what i mean is that if you're under 18 you should have to have a referal, or parent consent before the abortion because otherwise you can't get shit taken care of.

and don't be a fuck face about it. what is being regulated is the fact that a decision like stopping a life is pretty crutial and ppl don't always think of that, some ppl (like some younger girls) see it as a second chance at using birth control cuz they forgot.

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From what I understand they do require parental consent if a person is under 18. But there are ways around that, Im sure, and girls that are willing to get the procedure so their parents dont find out they are sexually active are probably the same girls who will go to a clinic with fake information in order to get the procedure done. But I see your point.

But its all a matter of opinion as far as whether its a life or not, and whether the decision to have one is crucial or not. Thats not for the government to decide or regulate, IMO.

And another thing (not trying to be a fuckface as you so eloquently put it, but...) an abortion isnt exactly a pleasant or inexpensive procedure. So forgive me when I say that it really bugs me when people make uneducated generalizations like "girls use it as a means of birth control". They'd have to be really stupid morbid girls who get off on draining their bank account, time, and physical well-being if thats their thinking, and if there are girls like that out there, Im pretty sure they're in a very small minority, and are not worth changing the system entirely just cause they're fucked up in the head.

too many damn people in this world. i say, kill those damn fetusus.
sorry i didnt read the original post or any of the others.

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Originally Posted by NightProwler

too many damn people in this world. i say, kill those damn fetusus.
sorry i didnt read the original post or any of the others.

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Actually, even in your few words and probable sarcasm/humor, you made a really good point.

Pro-life sounds nice and sunshiny love-dovy and all that, but its unrealistic, and would have a negative result...as it once did. I would be blown away by the logic if the government ever did criminalize abortion in my lifetime.

The world's population has more than doubled since 1950.. think about that one

But like all species that get out of hand, Mother Nature has a little surprise in store for us...
http://dieoff.org

I wonder what Partyguy's view on abortion is, as he is a abortion survivor.

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Originally Posted by Ousted

From what I understand they do require parental consent if a person is under 18. But there are ways around that, Im sure, and girls that are willing to get the procedure so their parents dont find out they are sexually active are probably the same girls who will go to a clinic with fake information in order to get the procedure done. But I see your point.

But its all a matter of opinion as far as whether its a life or not, and whether the decision to have one is crucial or not. Thats not for the government to decide or regulate, IMO.

And another thing (not trying to be a fuckface as you so eloquently put it, but...) an abortion isnt exactly a pleasant or inexpensive procedure. So forgive me when I say that it really bugs me when people make uneducated generalizations like "girls use it as a means of birth control". They'd have to be really stupid morbid girls who get off on draining their bank account, time, and physical well-being if thats their thinking, and if there are girls like that out there, Im pretty sure they're in a very small minority, and are not worth changing the system entirely just cause they're fucked up in the head.

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i know, most girls aren't like that and don't do it. but the rich girls who fit into the picture perfect upper class whose daddys spoil them... those girls have access to a lot of money... i knew a couple of ppl like that

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you weren't being a fuckface there...

its legal murder

unless done for health reasons i cant see it anything but killing a innocent life to not be a parent,its a chicken shit thing to do

given some them kids would be better off dead considering who mommy and daddy is,and how the state is fucking joke when they need help

but it is still taking a life that did nothing.

have you people ever wondered, if it were possible to grow babys on trees, the USA would most likely grow as many as possible as fast as possible. they would probibily say its inhumane to not create a human life when its so easy and possible. we're fucking retarded. everyone should stop making babys for 10-15 years and let the old people die off. and there should be one baby per household. any others get killed. who gives a fuck? theyre babys.

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Originally Posted by Mojavpa

But I also think we should emphasize that people should wait before having sex until they are financially secure and in monogamous relationships and just able to take on the responsibility of having children.

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I admire your intentions, but as one hormonal teenager who goes to school with 600 other hormonal teenagers every day, I can tell you that will never, EVER work.