My dad killed somone

Well here's another one. I don't think that their able to clean out areas without a little bit of fire. I'm sure a lot more in detail will be coming out in the future. Just glad I'm not part of it!!!

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...adlines-nation
The troops, members of an elite Special Response Team from the Louisiana Army National Guard, were the first convoy out of what was rapidly becoming a massive military staging ground.

Their mission, simply, is to turn New Orleans into a police state â?? to "regain the city," 1st Sgt. John Jewell said.

The truck lurched through the streets, past buildings burning unabated and MPs in gun turrets. When they stopped to gear up for their arrival at the New Orleans Convention Center, where more than 15,000 people had been living in squalor since Katrina, these words echoed â?? for the first time, one would imagine â?? through the intersection of Poydras Avenue and Carondelet Street: "Lock and load!"

"Sixteen in the clip!" one Guardsman shouted, a common refrain used to indicate that rifles are fully loaded.

I am also glad that I am not a part of itâ?¦..

But again your source says nothing about firing upon civilians by the military.

And donâ??t even get me started on the L.A. timesâ?¦.

Donâ??t you think if they had wanted to be prepared for a gun fight they would have loaded their weapons way before they actually might have needed them?

Do you know how intimidating it sounds to hear the words â??lock and load,â?� â??sixteen in the clipâ?�â?¦..they were trying to use intimidation so they would not have to use bullets.

Evidently it workedâ?¦..(for now)

Iâ??m not trying to win an argument hereâ?¦.

But saying that U.S. service personal are shooting or have shot civilians is serious.

And I donâ??t think Iâ??m out of line asking for some facts.

God bless this kids dadâ?¦.if this really happenedâ?¦.but I donâ??t think it didâ?¦.and misleading people about this sort of thing at a time like now is wrong.

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But saying that U.S. service personal are shooting or have shot civilians is serious.

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Thats where we differ. I don't consider wasting a punk gang banger as a serious issue. They don't set the standard for the population, they're not the majority. They're just punks with pistols. Civilians? NO, they're our own darling lil' terrorists!!!

I agree with you in that opinion.

My issue is that IT NEVER HAPPENED.

And I could personally care less if all the dirt bags of the world dropped dead right now.

The image of an American soldier shooting an American citizen in the streets of an American city.

It disturbs me a great deal.

And for it all to be just a lie â?¦..kinda pisses me off.

If his story were real then of courseâ?¦.I would completely support his father.

Doesnt anybody get why Iâ??m not ok with this.

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Your dad used a gun to kill someone because they had a gun. Irony is wasted on some people.

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his job is to protect and keep order, hes a soldier and thats y he has a gun. this was a street punk pointing a gun at a soldier and running towards a group of people....................

and as for this story being false. someone posted saying the city has to be taken under any means necessary

If a guy is running to the back in a gun shop what you think he's doing? Grabbing a candy bar? Shit that enough for any law enforcement in that situation to shoot someone. Many shootings resulted from someone digging in their pocket and the cop reacted and shot them.

I think it's quite disturbing, I too question the accuracy of this account, but I give him the benefit of the doubt.

I canâ??t believe this is your response to me calling you a liarâ?¦â?¦about something this important.

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and as for this story being false. someone posted saying the city has to be taken under any means necessary

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How do you take that to mean "my dad, who is a soldier, had to soot someone."

Did you even read those links?

There is enough misery in the world without people inventing it.

All I'm asking you to show me is.... proof that an American soldier shot a U.S. citizen during the aftermath of hurricane Katrina.

How many reporters do you think there are on the ground in that area?????

Do you think this kind of story might make the news?

You even said in your initial post

.â?¦ Hes one of the 1300 there. Sad thing is He and his Partner had to shoot 2 kids in their 20's just today. You might see this on the news actually. They got shoot to kill orderâ?¦..

If this had actually happened believe me there would be some type of news record about it.

So read the news next time you want to make something up.

Now only did your dad not do these things��NO soldier has done this.

Donâ??t you think I put a little thought into my argument â?¦â?¦ before I made myself look like a dick head picking on some poor kid.

well now they have ordered forced evacuations , an no pets allowed , i heard one guy say he wont leave unless they kill him , so what ever happened to freedom

I hope you American's realise what a corrupt bunch your forces are.

It was reported on British television, a couple of young English girls were among those trapped on a building roof, your Police Officers were sailing past them so the gilrs shouted for help, the Officers told them to flash their tits, the girls won't so they sped on past.

The whole ordeal is not playing out well across the world. This is only one story. By the way do you all think black and white can really live in harmony.

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I hope you American's realise what a corrupt bunch your forces are.

It was reported on British television, a couple of young English girls were among those trapped on a building roof, your Police Officers were sailing past them so the gilrs shouted for help, the Officers told them to flash their tits, the girls won't so they sped on past.

The whole ordeal is not playing out well across the world. This is only one story. By the way do you all think black and white can really live in harmony.

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Can you get me a link to that story on a news site or something?

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I hope you American's realise what a corrupt bunch your forces are.

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GoGo Ball.....first of all FUCK YOU.

Maybe they passed them up because when they opened their mouths to call for help the rescuers realized they were English and didnâ??t think they were worth fucking saving.

If it was reported by the almighty BBC than you shouldnâ??t have any problems providing a link.

Donâ??t you think that if the BBC reported this... American journalist would have picked up on this storyâ?¦..after all the American media like to trash America just as much if not more than the rest of the world.

There could be as many as 10,000 dead and this is what you sayâ?¦..

What kind of human being are you.

And what the fuck does this have to do with being black or whiteâ?¦â?¦youâ??re an idiot.

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GoGo Ball.....first of all FUCK YOU.

Maybe they passed them up because when they opened their mouths to call for help the rescuers realized they were English and didnâ??t think they were worth fucking saving.

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..and may I ask what your problem with English people is?

Oh.....gost.

You should fucking know I don't have a problem with the English.

And you mean to tell me that after all the bull shit that has been posted on this thread your only problem is my stab at Go Go Ball.

You don't care that the first dip shit made up a terrible story about his own father in order to get sympathy from the members of this board.....

You also didn't give a shit when the second referred to our rescue workers as a "corrupt bunch."

And your reply is "What do you have against the English."

I'm blown away.

We are quite capable of fucking things up buy ourselves....without people making things up.

I'm very upset ......

It's very clear to me that during times of hardship....America has to take care of herself.

Because I would hate to half to depend on any type of compassion from anyone else in the world.

You guys have been a tremendous let down.

I don't have anything against you Gost but that's how I feel.

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Oh.....gost.

You should fucking know I don't have a problem with the English.

And you mean to tell me that after all the bull shit that has been posted on this thread your only problem is my stab at Go Go Ball.

You don't care that the first dip shit made up a terrible story about his own father in order to get sympathy from the members of this board.....

You also didn't give a shit when the second referred to our rescue workers as a "corrupt bunch."

And your reply is "What do you have against the English."

I'm blown away.

We are quite capable of fucking things up buy ourselves....without people making things up.

I'm very upset ......

It's very clear to me that during times of hardship....America has to take care of herself.

Because I would hate to half to depend on any type of compassion from anyone else in the world.

You guys have been a tremendous let down.

I don't have anything against you Gost but that's how I feel.

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Hey come on.. I wasn't implying anything, I was just curious. Did you not see my first post in this thread? Of course I think this kid made the story up, and of course I think it's shocking that people have been slagging the rescue workers. But I don't always express my opinions cause sometimes they fall on deaf ears. Some people are just plain stupid, and there stupidity shouldn't even be acknowledged, that's why I was shocked when you made that comment about English people.. not because I give a shit, but because I kinda expected better from you, coz I normally agree with everything you say.... That's all.

*passes likemclever the joint and smiles*

Peace?

You people haven't heard the story of the Norwegian King and the three english transvestites?

I haven't. Enlighten me.

Oh, damn, I just remembered all that shit Jimi Hendrix went through just before he died, with that UNRULY english crowd.

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Hey come on.. I wasn't implying anything, I was just curious. Did you not see my first post in this thread? Of course I think this kid made the story up, and of course I think it's shocking that people have been slagging the rescue workers. But I don't always express my opinions cause sometimes they fall on deaf ears. Some people are just plain stupid, and there stupidity shouldn't even be acknowledged, that's why I was shocked when you made that comment about English people.. not because I give a shit, but because I kinda expected better from you, coz I normally agree with everything you say.... That's all.

*passes likemclever the joint and smiles*

Peace?

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Gost you know I could never be mad at you â?¦.(especially when your passing me a joint.)

That little rant wasnâ??t entirely directed at youâ?¦..the whole thing just makes me so fucking mad I could punch someone in the faceâ?¦(but not with a joint in my had so youâ??re safe)

I canâ??t turn on the television or the radio or my computer or do fucking anything without hearing about this shit.

And when I do hear itâ?¦..I have to listen to politicians bicker and bitch about who did what wrong.

It was a hurricane for fucks sake.

Then I have to hear reported all over the news how women had been raped in the superdome. And children had been murdered��I heard this from so called reputable news organizations here in the U.S. and abroad��this really fucked me up emotionally.

Google it you will see what I mean.

Now I find out that those stories arenâ??t trueâ?¦â?¦

Then I come here��.and I have to hear deliberate lies about our military�and insensitive remarks about people who are trying to save lives.

And on top of that Iâ??m the only one who seems to fucking care (I know thatâ??s not true but thatâ??s how I feel)

Why would our own media make this terrible tragedy even more horrific that it actually isâ?¦one wordâ?¦..politics.

And Iâ??ve had my fill.

* Do you mind if I just hold on to this joint for a while *

Keep it! :)

*sends some stoner love your way*

lol :p

.. ;) ..

Well, the Norwegian King and these three transvestites...you know the rest!!!

lol....

adaisychain

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Can you get me a link to that story on a news site or something?

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First off I watch the news on TV, you could try British TV web sites, it would be one of three 'BBC', 'ITV' or 'CHANNEL 4', I don't remember the channel and I tried searching myself (not for long though) because I like proving that what I say is true.

likemclever

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Maybe they passed them up because when they opened their mouths to call for help the rescuers realized they were English and didnâ??t think they were worth fucking saving.

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I'm Irish you can bad mouth the English to me all you want, HONEY!


By the way everyone, I posted because I knew it would get up some people's backs up, I say 'A Job Well Done', a pat on the back for 'GoGo Ball', some people on forums fall into the trap all the time, it took a while for the first reply this thread was near on page 2 but thanks to you all for indulging my sadistic personality.

For the record, no one Race or Nationality is more corrupt than the other, Humans are fundamentally corrupt but I do happen to believe that because of our nature there will always be tension between the races and this draws me to the conclusion that Black and White can't truly live in harmony.

By the way did American television report about all the foreigners getting spat upon and objects threw at them because they got the first coaches that arrived. America will not get to see what the rest of the free world can, your media is controlled and regulated by government, you elected George Bush and the billions that are unaccounted for threw the contracts awarded to companies to rebuilt Iraq, these companies happen to be owned by senators. America lives in a bubble and some day it will burst, most Americans have not set foot out of their cosy country.

Well at least I feel better nowâ?¦.before I thought maybe you were an intelligent person who was just miss guided.

I can see now youâ??re just a sick fucking loonâ?¦..who has about as much credibility as Michael Moore. Itâ??s abundantly clear you have no real knowledge of America or its way of life.

Iâ??m not wasting any more time on you......shooo fly.

No superpower will remain a superpower forever. It's inevitable that other nations will rise up and others will fall. What's important is what they do with their time in the spotlight. Unfortunately not many nations have used thir opportunity to do good yet. :(

color doesnt make a person who they are, when cut we all bleed the same color. I agree that the US is whacked, but where in the world isnt it? Throughout human history, human beings have visited atrocities upon other human beings in increasingly diturbing and grizzly manners. Human nature being what it is, does'nt look like its gonna change anytime soon.

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No superpower will remain a superpower forever. It's inevitable that other nations will rise up and others will fall. What's important is what they do with their time in the spotlight. Unfortunately not many nations have used thir opportunity to do good yet. :(

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Itâ??s funny you mention that Gost.

I have had that exact thought many many times. Well just the first part anyway.

Believe me I have often thought about Greece, Egypt, Rome and England and seen Americas logical outcomeâ?¦.I wonâ??t dispute that, sad as it may be.

And as the super power I believe that we have a certain obligation to the world to promote freedom, goodwill, and security. Unfortunately, itâ??s hard to deliver those things and not take sidesâ?¦.which always pisses people off.

But I think your wrong about the last part. I think all former super powers have contributed greatly to the worldâ?¦.where would we be in the world without Greeceâ??s day in the sun (I canâ??t even imagine.)

Yeah they've contributed. But whenever a nation becomes a superpower they always put most of their effort and resources in to building military strength. In my opinion that's doing more harm than good.

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Yeah they've contributed. But whenever a nation becomes a superpower they always put most of their effort and resources in to building military strength. In my opinion that's doing more harm than good.

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I'm afraid power and security go hand in hand...


and our military does a tremendous amount of humanitarian work around the world.....believe it or not they would rather hand out a meal than put a bullet in someones chest.

You people haven't seen nothing yet!,stay tuned to world events things are only getting started,it's bibical!....................I feel sad for all those people in my heart but these things must happen,people blame this on God and stuff but I got news this shit is the work of the devil! he has great power in the last days to bring harm to man!....................it's only getting started

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No superpower will remain a superpower forever. It's inevitable that other nations will rise up and others will fall. What's important is what they do with their time in the spotlight. Unfortunately not many nations have used thir opportunity to do good yet. :(

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I'm pulling for Trinidad.

i dont give a fuck where your from or who you are.
you shoot at me i'll shoot back especially if THAT WAS MY JOB
and yes i aim for ya head hope to make you dead

the national guard should have been in the shelters protecting people

some sick bastard cut a 7 yr olds throat.

armed gangs ran the deep parts on the centers while people were dragged off raped,robbed and murdered,

anyone taking advantage of that situations needs a bullet in the head
and fuck anyone who dont think so,.so do you.

they aint all innocent survivors of a disaster,some are deadly predators and apparently they alot of them.

the NG should in fact lock that place down best they can and get them out of there soon as possible
but first things first,food water and meds ,clean clothes

just think,no food no water and gangs of parasites attacking you

i would want the NG shooting them fuckers who ran in packs PILLAGING like vikings.

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color doesnt make a person who they are, when cut we all bleed the same color. I agree that the US is whacked, but where in the world isnt it? Throughout human history, human beings have visited atrocities upon other human beings in increasingly diturbing and grizzly manners. Human nature being what it is, does'nt look like its gonna change anytime soon.

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that just needed said agian


will add
man is a beast that rules the planet right now
and we all are fucking it up.

But the national guard confiscating everyone's gun? Descrating the 2nd amendment?

If a person branished a gun let alone fire at them, confiscate, that constitutes a threat.

The national guard should be firing at looters, rapists, and criminals that constitute a violent threat. That is Lousiana. Those bandits should know well enough not to fuck with people because every father, mother and child there has a gun in LA before Katrina, why should that culture change?

As for this blame, everyone involved was to blame:
* The police, bus drivers and other essential employees that abandoned their duties.
*Naglin and his subordinates for failing to adequately place and practice a contigency plan. Failure to place aside adequate resources, and failure to designate enough essential employees.
*The state of Lousiana who wrestled control with FEMA for the evacuation, rescue, and recovery efforts
*Federal Government. Who given a leadership to an inexperienced guy soly on the base of politics, who exagurated his experience on his resume. Failure to coordinate efforts to get help on time.

When some Canadians beat them there, that tells you how this is all a simultenous collapse of government and to some extent humanity. How everyday, the goal of man is to replace other men with machines, for sole profit. How increasing, people are being looked at as commodities rather than as humans and how even we look at us and ourselves.

We live to suffer, but I think everyone needs to show some compassion, and to stop blaming others for things we can't control, and rather genuinely work to make sure it doesn't happen again.

Of course, we are only human.

Just something to say to you foreigners. The North and the South (of the U.S.A.) were at odds, only 5 or 6 generations ago. America is such a diverse place that you can't judge people from Connecticut by the way people from New Jersey act. Let alone Louisiana. I've lived in N.Y. and it seems they are five years behind in Virginia. At least. I think the Louisianians may not be too evolved. Not all, of course.

News Up-Date (Source: BBC, Ceefax Page 145) -

America have turned down 15 tonnes of German aid destined for the Katrina victims because the plane had no permission to land. What a load of Bureaucracy?

I'm sorry to get down on you guys, I don't really mean it, I know that America would be the first to help Ireland out in times of crisis. It is scary because that storm would destroy my small country, Ireland would be left with no economy and another few centuries of migration, we are so vulnerable here, the same goes for Britain.