Religion(kinda wat happens when you die?) question

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Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs

People who believe in Christ are a seperate race from non-believers.

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Really, so even though my parents are both white, and I'm white, we're from different races because they're Christians and I'm not?

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If you think people who believe in Christ are scum, then you are a racist. If you can categorize Christians as scum then you are ignoring the non-scum Christians, hence ignorance-bred racism.

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No, that's a different type of prejudice. The word "race" implies a common genetic heritage. There are Christians of all races. Not that it's okay to hate 2.1 billion people just because they're unfortunate enough to have been infected by the Christianity virus, but whatever it is it's not racism.

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Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs

Thanks Warlock, I'll think about hating you, too, though I won't because I'm not that type of person.

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You do that, because if you did I wouldnt give a shit. God fearing hate means fuck all.

Whatever... Hitler tried to commit genocide, killing off all the Jews, if it were Christians, they wouldn't call it genocide?

No, because Christians cause more problems than good. If Hitler had tried to gas a load of christians it would be called a party. Christians are like a warped version of Jews, twice the trouble.

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Originally Posted by Warlock

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Yes that's about right. But i do hate christians, they're worse than common thieves, they're hypocritical, alont the years through hystory they have been murderous & they are weak fools that serve no purpose on this planet. They live to turn others around to their views of thinking.

If hating christains makes me a racist then so be it. I don't care.
It's an out-dated relaigion that has no place in the world today.

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I think hypocrisy and subscription to outdated beliefs is just human nature, I don't think it really has anything to do with religion. We'd still have just as many fanatical nuts if everyone was an atheist.

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Originally Posted by Warlock

Christians have denied the basic urges of man since the beginning of it all. Christians still snub aside masturbation & pre-marital sex, 2 of the most natural thing on this planet. How dare they tell me I am sinning by having sex, how fucking dare they!!

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Well, not to be a jerk but how dare you judge an entire religion with such hatred because of differing beliefs as well? You seem to be just as vocal about your beliefs as many christians are about theirs. Look up "irony."

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I am willing to face upto any christian that has a problem with me, & I'll let them know that I have enough anger in me for them that I will kill them if they fuck with me.

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Ooh, what a badass, lol.

Anger is a very unflattering reaction to have. And its especially unflattering when the anger is not very justified. And most assuredly makes those who choose to lose their self-control - selfishly displaying their anger - come off like serious ignoramous's.

I think you need to check your own hypocricies before criticizing others for being hypocritical. Might help with your anger issues if you actually understood fully what you let yourself get so worked up about.
You cant control other people, no matter how violent or angry you get. People are gonna do what they're gonna do, and believe what they're gonna believe despite you. So you might as well keep a controlled eye on that short fuse of yours for the sake of your own sanity...and likability.

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Originally Posted by Ousted

Well, not to be a jerk but how dare you judge an entire religion with such hatred because of differing beliefs as well? You seem to be just as vocal about your beliefs as many christians are about theirs. Look up "irony." Ooh, what a badass, lol. Anger is a very unflattering reaction to have. And its especially unflattering when the anger is not very justified. And most assuredly makes those who choose to lose their self-control - selfishly displaying their anger - come off like serious ignoramous's. I think you need to check your own hypocricies before criticizing others for being hypocritical. Might help with your anger issues if you actually understood fully what you let yourself get so worked up about. You cant control other people, no matter how violent or angry you get. People are gonna do what they're gonna do, and believe what they're gonna believe despite you. So you might as well keep a controlled eye on that short fuse of yours for the sake of your own sanity...and likability.

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Thanks. I usually keep it to a sentence.

Either way, I originally pointed out that your remarks are racist, because you hate a whole entire race of Christ-believers. Just like you're family, warlock, is an entire race of lab rats. Enough of the name calling, but if everyone was like you, then everyone would want to kill someone.

Sorry, (up above, somewhere) about your situation where your parents are Christian and you're not.

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Originally Posted by Ousted

Well, not to be a jerk but how dare you judge an entire religion with such hatred because of differing beliefs as well? You seem to be just as vocal about your beliefs as many christians are about theirs. Look up "irony."

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I can judge all I want, I know exactly what christians are about. They do deny the basic nature of man, the bible is a prime example of this.
I used to attend church a lot, I used to be involved in church activities & I was a full on heavy christian years ago. That's when I saw what they're really like.

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Ooh, what a badass, lol.

Anger is a very unflattering reaction to have. And its especially unflattering when the anger is not very justified. And most assuredly makes those who choose to lose their self-control - selfishly displaying their anger - come off like serious ignoramous's.

I think you need to check your own hypocricies before criticizing others for being hypocritical. Might help with your anger issues if you actually understood fully what you let yourself get so worked up about.
You cant control other people, no matter how violent or angry you get. People are gonna do what they're gonna do, and believe what they're gonna believe despite you. So you might as well keep a controlled eye on that short fuse of yours for the sake of your own sanity...and likability.

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I understand fully what I get angry about, my anger is also fully justified.
These christian morons battle with themselves on a daily basis. Trying not to "Give in to temptation", such as not looking at that girl, not thinking sexual thoughts & not masturbating, & when they fail they feel they have let their god down. Only idiots could do something this stupid.

What there is no justification for is the centuries of killings & torture that have all happened in the name of christianity.

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Originally Posted by Warlock

I can judge all I want, I know exactly what christians are about. They do deny the basic nature of man, the bible is a prime example of this.
That's when I saw what they're really like.
I understand fully what I get angry about, my anger is also fully justified.
These christian morons battle with themselves on a daily basis. Trying not to "Give in to temptation", such as not looking at that girl, not thinking sexual thoughts & not masturbating, & when they fail they feel they have let their god down. Only idiots could do something this stupid.

What there is no justification for is the centuries of killings & torture that have all happened in the name of christianity.

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Ok, so what about other religions and their battles?

First though, I think your parents brought you to the wrong church.

Christian means that you believe in Christ. Some Christian religions have no faith in the bible, declaring your entire argument null & void.

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Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs

Ok, so what about other religions and their battles?

First though, I think your parents brought you to the wrong church.

Christian means that you believe in Christ. Some Christian religions have no faith in the bible, declaring your entire argument null & void.

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My parents didnt pick the church.

Other religions, they're all a load of crap too, but in my eyes christianity is the worst one. Claiming satanists kill babies, condemning people in the street because they think they're not christian. Make me sick. They're all the same.
All while backing everything up with a damn book, claiming it is evidence, it is nothing.

Stop generalizing, Warlock. Christianity isn't a certain congregation of people, unless they live in England. Catholicism and Lutheran have two seperate viewpoints, they are both Christian religions.

Jesus says he is the only way to salvation yet he purposely disillusions us so that we will go to hell:

Jesus explains that the reason he speaks in parables is so that no one will understand him, â??lest . . . they . . . should understand . . . and should be converted, and I should heal them.â?� Matthew 13:10-15

Jesus explains why he speaks in parables to confuse people so they will go to hell. Mark 4:11-12



Jesus advocates child abuse:

Jesus is criticized by the Pharisees for not washing his hands before eating. He defends himself by attacking them for not killing disobedient children according to the commandment: â??He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.â?� Matthew 15:4-7

Abandon your wife and children for Jesus and heâ??ll give your a big reward. Jesus asks that his followers abandon their children to follow him. To leave your child is abuse, itâ??s called neglect, pure and simple. Matthew 19:29

Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children according to Old Testament law. Mark 7:9


oh yeah, thats really spiritually advanced. *laughing* christianity is a spiritually dead religon, designed to keep followers confused about the afterlife and true power so the people that really know whats up can stay in control. thats what i think.

I'm started to think that the mindset of human beings nowadays is no different from the ignoramus' who outlawed pot back in the thirties. Now that is racism. The next form of life our country is looking to make illegal is Brits who wear lipstick.

I was confirmed catholic at St. Mary's church in Amsterdam, NY and not once did a priest or a nun tell me to kill little kids who misbehave.

Believers are supposed to hate their parents when they follow Jesus (â??If any man come to me, and not hate his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sister, yet, and his own life also, he cannot be my discipleâ?� (Luke 14:26). Well, considering that Christians do not abandon their families but usually attempt to brainwash them they are all guilty of not following this verse. â??Itâ??s symbolicâ?�, yeah, I know your lame ass defense to this one already.

Christians go out on a Friday & Saturday night & have sex with girls, then go to church on Sunday & repent.
Hypocritical little bastards.
It's all about god, jesus & the damn bible. If the assholes spent as much energy on a good cause rather than in a fucking book some good might get done on this planet.

They are "bible-thumpers". Let them be. But I believe in Christ and find that you have no right to classify me as scum, or a hypocrite. I'm pretty sure that those people (who are so interested in the bible that you hate their guts) have finished reading their bibles. I hate satan worshippers. But if one came to me with a good heart, I'd like him.

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Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs

They are "bible-thumpers". Let them be. But I believe in Christ and find that you have no right to classify me as scum, or a hypocrite. I'm pretty sure that those people (who are so interested in the bible that you hate their guts) have finished reading their bibles. I hate satan worshippers. But if one came to me with a good heart, I'd like him.

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There are no Satan worshippers, just stupid 14yr olds that want to rebel, they're the only Satan worshippers.
I have every right to clasify you like that. You are Christian therefore you are a hypocrite & if it were upto you the earths population would probably be christian.

Anybody who believes in Christ has not read the Bible carefully enough. The proof against Jesus' divinity can be found right in the pages of that damned book. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that Jesus and his followers clearly predicted the Second Coming to occur sometime in the first century. For instance, in Matthew 16:27-28 it says â??For the Son of Man [i.e. Jesus] is about to come in the glory of his Father with his angels, and then he will reward each one according to his deeds. I assure you [i.e. swear to you] that there are some here who will not die until they have seen the Son of Man [Jesus] come as King.â?� And later in Matthew 24:34, while still talking about the Second Coming, states â??Remember that all these things will happen before the people now living have all died.â?� Now clearly all the people who were alive when he said that are long dead, so Jesus' Second Coming did not occur within the timeframe Jesus himself specified in the Bible, therefore Jesus' prophecy was false, making Jesus a false prophet.

In case you think maybe there are some people from Jesus' time who somehow have survived for two millennia, in Matthew 26:63-64 he tells the high priest Caiaphas that the Second Coming will occur in his lifetime:

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But Jesus held his peace, And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God.

Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

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So this image of Caiaphas' tomb is all that is needed to prove Jesus was a false prophet.

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Originally Posted by brrg744

What do you think happens when you die?
I hured a scientific explanation before : Everything that exists has matter and energy. This energy Always will exist in the form of matter. So when you die your still around. This has been proven that the energy is always around. The question is wheter or not your thoughts stay with it. like you can go anywhere in the form of energy. wat you think about this or what are your thougt?

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I don't know actually. I think during the process of dying, you get shown the meaning of life. Why you were on earth, and why you are being taken away. All of your answers in life are revealed. Then your life is over. Dead silence, no sound, no feeling, nothing, but I still think we will have the ability to walk in spirit and help guid our loved ones through life.

I am no means religious. I believe in God but I don't believe in the bible.

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Originally Posted by ermitonto

Anybody who believes in Christ has not read the Bible carefully enough. The proof against Jesus' divinity can be found right in the pages of that damned book. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that Jesus and his followers clearly predicted the Second Coming to occur sometime in the first century. For instance, in Matthew 16:27-28 it says â??For the Son of Man [i.e. Jesus] is about to come in the glory of his Father with his angels, and then he will reward each one according to his deeds. I assure you [i.e. swear to you] that there are some here who will not die until they have seen the Son of Man [Jesus] come as King.â?� And later in Matthew 24:34, while still talking about the Second Coming, states â??Remember that all these things will happen before the people now living have all died.â?� Now clearly all the people who were alive when he said that are long dead, so Jesus' Second Coming did not occur within the timeframe Jesus himself specified in the Bible, therefore Jesus' prophecy was false, making Jesus a false prophet.

In case you think maybe there are some people from Jesus' time who somehow have survived for two millennia, in Matthew 26:63-64 he tells the high priest Caiaphas that the Second Coming will occur in his lifetime:

So this image of Caiaphas' tomb is all that is needed to prove Jesus was a false prophet.

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Hmm...very interesting.

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Originally Posted by Warlock

I have every right to clasify you like that. You are Christian therefore you are a hypocrite & if it were upto you the earths population would probably be christian.

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Man, go whack off or something, you're barking up the wrong tree. I believe Christ existed and something was messed up about it. If it were up to me, I wouldn't give a shit about you anyways, why would I care?

As for the bible, why is it still around? I know during football games (American, that is) there's usually some guy holding up a John 3:16 sign.

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Man, go whack off or something, you're barking up the wrong tree. I believe Christ existed and something was messed up about it. If it were up to me, I wouldn't give a shit about you anyways, why would I care?

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See what I mean? Complete hypocrite. Jesus wouldn't like you talking like that.

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As for the bible, why is it still around? I know during football games (American, that is) there's usually some guy holding up a John 3:16 sign.

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It's still around because gullible people like you keep sucking it all in, being brainwashed, without even stopping for a second to question what they believe.

The main reason the Bible is around is because its followers have not studied it closely enough to find the proof that Jesus was a fraud, and like all religions they indoctrinate their children from birth into believing that it is true simply because their own parents indoctrinated them similarly. They are scared from seriously questioning the beliefs of the Bible for fear of eternal punishment (even though the universe is supposedly ruled by an infinitely forgiving being...go figure).

"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword." â??Jesus, in Matthew 10:34

Will you stop believing people are followers and robots?
Jesus Christ has nothing to do with my everyday life.

That quote is just saying that the team will never die. Catholics don't put a whole lot of stock in the bible, some other religion probably started that.

Jesus Christ had his day in the sunshine. When a third son of God comes to Earth, you better hope he doesn't judge you by your belief that there never was a first.

I guess, you believe that you're born and you die. Sounds nice.

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Originally Posted by Warlock

Christians go out on a Friday & Saturday night & have sex with girls

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And...that's the reason why guys are on this planet, to have sex with girls, not to wear lipstick like Bozo the Clown.

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Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs

Jesus Christ had his day in the sunshine. When a third son of God comes to Earth, you better hope he doesn't judge you by your belief that there never was a first.

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But Jesus himself said "I assure you that there are some here who will not die until they have seen the Son of Man come as King." Since all those people have died and they did not see the Son of Man come as King, we can be absolutely certain he was lying. There is no ambiguity in a quote like "I assure you that there are some here who will not die until they have seen the Son of Man come as King."

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I guess, you believe that you're born and you die. Sounds nice.

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I wouldn't believe in anything (like life after death) just because it would be "nice" if it was true. I would only believe something if it was logically consistent with my observations.

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Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs

And...that's the reason why guys are on this planet, to have sex with girls, not to wear lipstick like Bozo the Clown.

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But it's not the reason god apparently put them here. They're not meant to lay with man nor woman outside wedlock, which they are doing.
I'll tell you who else where's lipstick, all of your fave actors, incl the male ones. Get over it you moron, I wear lipstick along with millions of other guys out there. Are you not able to comprehend it?

What happens when you die? Nothing.

You were dead for all eternity before you were born and it doesn't annoy you does it? Well don't worry about being dead again.

hmmm... i liked reading the 10th Insight (the sequel to the Celestine Prophecy)

Not only does this Insight provide a fuller understanding of this transformation, but it also expounds on the â??Afterlife dimension.â?� We learn that in this dimension â??you can make anything happen just by wishing it so...[however], such creation isnâ??t fulfilling.â?�28 Although this type of manipulation can occur in the earthly dimension it happens at a â??slower rate.â?� Such manipulation only becomes fulfilling when â??we first tune into our inner direction and divine guidance...[when] we become cocreators with the divine source.â?�



Our goal in life, with the help of â??soul groups,â?� is to remember our â??birth vision.â?� A birth vision is what we wanted to get accomplished in this life before we entered this physical realm (i.e., in a preincarnate state). Soul groups, people who remain in the Reincarnation Afterlife dimension, offer us support and help to attain our birth vision.

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Originally Posted by Warlock

But it's not the reason god apparently put them here. They're not meant to lay with man nor woman outside wedlock, which they are doing.

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God clearly put girls for guys to fuck and vice versa.

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Originally Posted by Euphoric

hmmm... i liked reading the 10th Insight (the sequel to the Celestine Prophecy)

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Cool, thanks...I read the Celestine Prophecy at the time the 10th Insight was coming out (I guess).

No, "God" didn't "put" people on the planet to fuck each other. Fucking existed for billions of years before humans did, and those original fuckers evolved into billions of different species of fuckers, including humans. We're here because we fuck, and if we didn't we'd die out. If you have any evidence whatsoever that some factor besides evolution was involved in making us creatures who like to fuck, I and the entire scientific community would be fascinated to see it.

ermitonto, I'll give you proof of an alternate explanation. you're utilizing critical thinking, now cut it out before you burn in hell!!!!!! :eek:










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Originally Posted by TonyD

What happens when you die? Nothing.

You were dead for all eternity before you were born and it doesn't annoy you does it? Well don't worry about being dead again.

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will u pass me that jiont,please
cuase its got to be good,:)

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Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs

God clearly put girls for guys to fuck and vice versa.

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According to god it's only meant to happen is marriage. If you have had sex outside marriage then according to your god you're going to burn in hell.
I wish I had such a loving god as you :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Warlock

According to god it's only meant to happen is marriage. If you have had sex outside marriage then according to your god you're going to burn in hell.
I wish I had such a loving god as you :rolleyes:

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A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)


yeah. burned alive! :eek:

Yeah the Bible would have practically every angsty teenager executed too, since Leviticus 20:9 says:

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For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.

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And check out the next verse too, Leviticus 20:10:

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And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

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Fortunately, even the Christians these days are smart enough to ignore this bullshit. I didn't hear too many of them clamoring to execute Clinton and Lewinski. (However, the hypocrites like to go on and on and on and on about the line 3 verses down which condemns homosexuality as worthy of the death penalty).

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Originally Posted by Warlock

According to god it's only meant to happen is marriage.

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What about dinosaurs, did they have to get married? And cats and dogs.
They all follow God's plan.