1st grow log

Hah, well I thought those flurex's were decent being full spectrum and all. Is 225W worth of CFL's not enough for 4sqft and 4 plants, or should I ditch the 100W of flourex and get something else?

Money doesn't grow on tress for me, yet... :) so I don't know how much more $ i can put in this project at this point.

I'm using this water: http://www.glacierwater.com/quality.htm

Then I bump the ph to 6.5-7.0.

A few days ago I saw some roots while looking at the drain holes. One of them looked really fuzzy at the tip and I wasn't sure they were root hairs or maybe some kind of mold? The fuzz and roots were same coloro.

I don't know, lack of experience on my part. The roots have since moved around so it's not there anymore.

Gonna pick up some rooting hormone today and water.

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Originally Posted by stickygreenlightsabr

Hah, well I thought those flurex's were decent being full spectrum and all. Is 225W worth of CFL's not enough for 4sqft and 4 plants, or should I ditch the 100W of flourex and get something else?

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To answer your question directly, no, i dont think 225W worth of CFL's will be able to cover 4 sq. I know for a fact it will not.

Perhaps when they are youngsters they 'might' sffice, but your lack of growth is what concerns me. The bottom shit is another issue, but may or may not be related.

I think lack of lights would result in stretched growth so I am not so sure that is the main cause. I think its either the water splash or root stressed issues.

How were these germinated.......in soil or paper?

As for your lights....are they the Lights of America brand?

alpha and beta were in water for 24h then placed in rockwool. I kept them in bag in a drawer till they popped.

eta and theta were in water for 12h then placed in 4" pot of sunshine mix #1. I put them in the cabinet and covered the pot with paper towels till they emerged.

The Flourex are Lights of America and the 125W is EzHydroKit.com brand. I have another 125W bulb but it's 2700K spectrum.

I dunno... the original plan was to veg with 225W and flower one female with at least 300W... all CFL. :confused:

Fret not...you can flower all the way with CFL, and that 2700K will help.

But lets not worry about that yet......Lets focus on getting your girls growing first.

Now you got me perplexed.......

I dont think I have seen a pic of your space...

lets start there :)

My setup is ghetto rigged right now since I took off the reflector and added the extra lights.

I plan on getting a square piece of wood to hang the lights from like in your setup.

Ok....

what kind of containers are they in?

do they have holes in the bottom?

does that foil trap the water and let it sit in the bottom?

And what kind of water are you using?

and what is that brownish muck on your soil surface that is making a circle around your stems?

They are in 4" pots.

They have holes in the bottom

The foil is only wrapped along the sides of the pot, not under.

this is the water im using: http://www.glacierwater.com/quality.htm

brownish muck in which pictures? maybe the rockwool or browned perlite balls?

Leached plants yesterday with water+ 1/4 strength 6-4-4 Fox Farm Big Grow. Their first shot of nutes!

I woke to find they have grown the most overnight since they first popped out. Hope that's a good sign...

hey sticky man, i like where this grow is going, my plants on its 16th day in seedling/veg stage, everygrow ive done has all had bad yellowing brow leafs then theyve died, so im gklad yours are still going strong, this plant i got now is doin the same but survivng quite good, 1 of the plants looks like its being overwatered from what i read of overgrow.com.
i like this forum grow as wer'e round about the same stage, my plant looks smaller than yours though, how old is yours man?
Good grow though, cheerz

Thanks masterg. It looks like the funk is either slowing down or has stopped and growth has taken over.

The two oldest plants (bottom) are at day 28.
The top two are at day 20 and 22.

hey sticky, i transplanted my plants 2day, they bin alive 17 dayz and gave them some epsom salt cause it contains magnesium and its meant to solve the yellow leaves, so hopefully that works.
in 2dayz i shall be gettting a digital camera so i can show you where i am roughly,
anywayz keep up the great grow man.

How is your yellow leaf problem going along masterg?

Here are updated pics from today. I decided to start LST yesterday to keep an even canopy for the CFL's. They are doing SO MUCH BETTER NOW than before, it's almost amazing how much of a beatdown they can take.

I plan on flowering Oct 6 to harvest around Dec 6 + curing = homegrown buds right after my last final of my last semester of undergraduate college. Booyakasha.

Question though...

The plants are 4-5 weeks old in 4" pots and want to transplant to 3 gal pots. Should I transplant before I flower... how much in advance?

I have three confirmed pre-flowering females. I hope the 4th one doesn't have its balls tucked under it's branches.

I present my whores...

ANNA NICOLE (aka alpha)
BRITNEY (aka beta)
STAR JONES (aka eta, the biggest one)

A&B surprised me since those two went through hell the first couple weeks, lol. Pics to come tomorrow...

Hi Sticky,

keep checking them preflowering females to mak sure they aint chick with dick plants

im just about to start growing as well so i got my own smoke for christmas

:)

Upon second thought, I don't want to be reminded of that gelatinous blob every time I look at my plant.

I'll stick with Eta.

Here she is after being transplanted to 2.5 gallon pot.

Looks like you ahve been doing your research.

Looks so good and sweet I cant see anyway to improve upon your efforts :)

Thanks HARDDON. I'm gonna try to be all Picasso with the tying.

Here's what she looks like today.

This is Anna Nicole now untied. I still haven't found a home for her.

She's getting lanky since she's in the corner while Eta is under the lights. But damn, she looks nice and healthy.

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Thanks HARDDON. I'm gonna try to be all Picasso with the tying.

Here's what she looks like today.

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The pic on the right doesnt need any tieing :D

The secondaries are up and large and healthy. I wouldn't fuck with her. Really...

Now the other lanky one....thats the one that needs to be tieds :)

The other pic looks like a really great mother plant candidate.

Yea I'm done with the tying. I just wanted an even canopy to start off with. From this point on I will let them grow at their own pace.


What minimum of CFL watts would you recommend for a mother?

This pic was taken Sunday. I like.

So pwetty...smell like heaven :-)

Started 12/12 today with 293W of 2700K CFLs.

Dropped something on plant today and basically broke off a secondary. It also damaged a small part of the main stem.

What the fuck is wrong with me?

For shits and giggles I'm trying to clone the busted part. I doubt it will work since I did it too casually.

Fuckin' A.

nice grow man, especialy for the 1st time. I wish i could grow, thats the 1st thing im doing when i move out.

Thanks Sharpezor, it's been fun and not difficult thus far.

Pic update, day 12 flowering. I didn't bother getting closeup pics with this cam.

Slight bulb burn on some leafs. I underestimated the speed of her growth.

Quick update from this morning:

Pic 1: setup, with AC being fed to fan or else temps soar past 100
Pic 2: the closest bud to the door, one of the smaller ones.
Pic 3: the cola formerly known as the main cola

What is your usual temperature in that box with the fan running? I bet your girlies would cook at 100F. By the way your plants look great.

Dboy

Hey sticky!

I've got a very similar question to dboy's... What's your average temperature with the fans getting air from the a/c ?

Do you recirculate this air inside the box, or remove it to a carbon filter/scrubber?

Do you have your a/c running the same time you've got your lights turned ON ?
Is that a/c purely for the plants? Or do you use that same air to cool the air inside your room?

Thanks sticky... I've got some questions about your setup that might help me with my problems. Thanks!

-turtle420 :cool:

Right now it's at 75.2 degrees. Depends on how high I set the AC. As long as it's under 80 I'm happy.

You can see where the temperature probe is at on the first pic. Just follow the black cable on the bottom left.

Turtle,

I actually have no odor control. Mainly because the cabinet went in the closet before I finished and now I'm too lazy to pull it and mess with it.

When I had 3 plants I'd come home from school, walk in the room and get a nice subtle smell of fresh herbs. I liked it and it wasn't obvious at all (I have a 20" box fan on my window sucking air out my room also).

The plant I ended up keeping was the least smelling so now I don't smell anything outside the box. My gf thinks it smells like cat piss when you sniff the buds.

The AC is only on when the lights are on. It is purely for the plants but the heat the unit produces almost doubles as a room heater.

Hope that helps. I'll be glad to answer any other Qs you have.

ACTUALLY....

I didn't have odor control until 2 weeks ago.

I installed this: http://www.webproducts.com/furnace_ac/absorber.html from Home Depot because I already had it around the house.

If you look at post #21 you can see a white grate. I put the filter between the grate and cabinet.

Damn your plants look really good. I cant believe your doing so good just being on CFLs after so much crap that people talk. Keep up with the post ups n pix its quite interesting and informative.

you have a nice grow room Sticky :cool:

Your plants look very healthy! Keep it up. I haven't heard much crap about CFL's (at least not for clones and veg.) I have a 20 site cloner in a 2by2 grow box. You and Hardon were talking about wattage for 4sq ft. and i was wondering. I am using a full spectrum 125 W (6400K) CFL for my clone box. Do you think that is enough light until I put them in 6inch pots under my 430 w HPS? I just want my plants to look as green as yours, and this face :D

BukDatAss: I know what you mean. I was weary to use CFLs but my growing situation didn't allow for HPS. I'm pretty impressed so far with the results.

Newgodsgrace: Thanks :)

Doobie Joint: I'm by no means an authority here but yea that's enough light. Do you plan on rooting them or both root/veg in there? I've never put more than 6 root cubes under the lights so I'd just be worried about fitting 20 :) If you look at post #20, the 125W bulb + reflector did a good job at distributing the light. Mylar helped tremendously.

The plant was moved last Thursday to a friends house. Transporting in a small 2 door was interesting.

He is new to growing and has two spare rooms which we converted into a flowering room (4'x6' and 360W HPS) and a mother/clone room (4'x4' 225W CFL).

I've been using 28 drops (per bottle directions per gallon, should I be using a different amount?) of 2-7-7 Schultz Cactus ferts, 2 drops Superthrive and 2tbsp epsom salt per gallon of RO water. Final pH of 6.8. I water every 2-3 days and with nutes every other watering.

Sounds fine but bring down the cactus juice to about 11 drops a gallon.

"flowering room (4'x6' and 360W HPS)"

This won't suffice... That's only enough power to light less then half of your room. You need to think about doubling your lighting at least, if you have the desire for decent fruits :rasta: Or downsize your flowering room by atleast half...

Thanks for the fert advice.

Thats the size of the small room but were only using half of that space for growing. My plant is also alone under the light.

No problem, that's actually the dosage 9skis reccomended me.. as to the flowering room.. just make sure the light is contained so you get maximum use of it, One plant can do REALLY well alone under 360 watts if you have a reflector and a good fan