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Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
there you go again seriously misquoting me and taking my words out of context.
i never said that any of those countries "saved" america. im saying that they all helped. and when you weigh in the fact that the allies almost lost the war, you can't help but assume the backup played a key part in keeping defeat far away..
""Keep in mind, american, remember normandy and how the germans were kicking your asses on the beach? you'd know that american forces held the left and right flanks while the canadians went straight through the middle inflicting extremely heavy casualties. Guess they left that part out in saving private ryan. "
Your quote less the bullshit. Germany was kicking our asses on the beach and the Grand Canadians went straight through the middle! OHHHH, thats not being saved? Not even in YOUR history book? Well, thank God for that!! Fact is the BACKUP did help. Sure didn't save our asses though! Maybe someday the Canadians can take the lead and we'll play backup.....like that'll ever happen! :rolleyes:
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i fucked up when i was young,big deal?
we got stock from my wifes family at our wedding,it came in a big plastic egg(nest egg)it was a cool gift.
i got in trouble as a kid,after all that i wanted to meet my fathers family in holland so i went and ended up staying for two years.when i got back i went to school and worked hard to get a good job.wich i got after applying to about 50 or 60 companies.
nothing amazing about that?
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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
""Keep in mind, american, remember normandy and how the germans were kicking your asses on the beach? you'd know that american forces held the left and right flanks while the canadians went straight through the middle inflicting extremely heavy casualties. Guess they left that part out in saving private ryan. "
Your quote less the bullshit. Germany was kicking our asses on the beach and the Grand Canadians went straight through the middle! OHHHH, thats not being saved? Not even in YOUR history book? Well, thank God for that!! Fact is the BACKUP did help. Sure didn't save our asses though! Maybe someday the Canadians can take the lead and we'll play backup.....like that'll ever happen! :rolleyes:
it's great to see that even though troops gave their lives and their families for your cause, you dont see any reason to pay any respect to them.
i guess supporting the troops only goes as far as american troops.
well whatever.
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i for one do not subscribe to that belief.the canadians had a huge part in defeating the nazis and i for one am grateful.
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Originally Posted by amsterdam
i fucked up when i was young,big deal?
we got stock from my wifes family at our wedding,it came in a big plastic egg(nest egg)it was a cool gift.
i got in trouble as a kid,after all that i wanted to meet my fathers family in holland so i went and ended up staying for two years.when i got back i went to school and worked hard to get a good job.wich i got after applying to about 50 or 60 companies.
nothing amazing about that?
well good for you. its a shame the "army" wont "let you" enlist. you
d be able to proceed to shoot innocent bystanders in a phony war. you've just justified yourself
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Originally Posted by amsterdam
i for one do not subscribe to that belief.the canadians had a huge part in defeating the nazis and i for one am grateful.
thanks. *hat tip* to amsterdam.
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Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
it's great to see that even though troops gave their lives and their families for your cause, you dont see any reason to pay any respect to them.
i guess supporting the troops only goes as far as american troops.
well whatever.
My cause? Hell my dad was a kid during WW2. Way to twist it Nic. Canada like MANY other countries helped in the cause but fact is there were 3 world powers at the time fighting the Germany, Italy, and Japan. I didn't see the world power of Canada being recognized. Sorry!!! :rolleyes:
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Hey nicholasstanko, if you want grafic pictures, go to ogrish.com. Enjoy.
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Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
well good for you. its a shame the "army" wont "let you" enlist. youd be able to proceed to shoot innocent bystanders in a phony war. you've just justified yourself
Why in the fucking hell would you even begin to assume that amsterdam would shoot innocent bystanders? Jesus christ man you have this chip on your shoulder in assuming that everyone who joins the military is a cold blooded killer. What phony war are you referring to anyhow? The war between jews and islam or the war in iraq? If you meant the struggle between jews and islam why do you call it a phony war? Whos tactics do you agree with in this war? We both know that they use bombers and terrorist tactics, but who do you think is right in this "phony" war? How would your oh so superior mind think up an end to this struggle? I thought you said terrorism would stop when we leave iraq? Proof
Nich i dont know what you hoped to achieve by this post. Do you know anything about the situation between the jews and islam? Do you know that this struggle between them has been around long before america was even thought of? What exactly was the point of your post nich? Besides an excuse to show us some gore and casualties of a war that you know absolutely fucking shit about. Like most of the people said...have you even been out of fucking canada? Maybe you try to broaden your horizons on the friendly internet by looking up gorey pictures and posting links to them in a forum you know will repond negatively to them. (you really thrive off of all this negative energy dont you) I dont understand you man i dont at all...honestly whos side are you on? im not implying that youre a good guy or a bad guy but whos fucking side are you on? Do you think the jews are wrong for wanting their supposed "holy land" or do you think islam is wrong? Would you destroy the dome of the rock or would you take pictures? Are the american soldiers in Iraq right for doing a job that they swore to do or do you honestly think were all cold blooded killers? Im sure that we can all agree on the fact that this is all George Bush's fault (well the iraq part of it anyhow), but what the fuck can we do about it now, besides support all of them and pray that they make it home safe? Wait youre a canadian so you didnt get the chance to vote against bush!! (no pun intended) i know i sure as hell voted against him. So lets think about this, i was a soldier, i served in a combat zone and i will be a soldier again if god permits...i know that ill most likely be put back in the situation that i was already in...but wait...i dont support bush...shit kinda seems like something isnt right huh? I must be a cold blooded killer whos only goal in life is to kill some women and children. <----thats sarcasm incase you didnt know.
honestly nich...have you ever put your neck on the line for anything ever? i dont think you have or ever will. I personally cannot fucking stand you at all but i hope and pray you or anyone on these forums will never see what these pictures are like in person. The images of the mangled bodies is usually not too hard to forget, but you will never fucking forget the smell. I dont mean rotting bodies or anything, i mean the iron smell of the blood or the fucking nasty stench of burnt flesh and hair, oh wait...dont forget about the smell of the shit and piss that these casualties let out just before they got blown to bits.
Imagine if these pictures were of someone you know or love...would you want some douchebag spreading them around a forum to support his creditless, and overall disgusting view of the world? I think not...have some fucking respect!!
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Originally Posted by makor01
Why in the fucking hell would you even begin to assume that amsterdam would shoot innocent bystanders? Jesus christ man you have this chip on your shoulder in assuming that everyone who joins the military is a cold blooded killer. What phony war are you referring to anyhow? The war between jews and islam or the war in iraq? If you meant the struggle between jews and islam why do you call it a phony war? Whos tactics do you agree with in this war? We both know that they use bombers and terrorist tactics, but who do you think is right in this "phony" war? How would your oh so superior mind think up an end to this struggle? I thought you said terrorism would stop when we leave iraq?
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Nich i dont know what you hoped to achieve by this post. Do you know anything about the situation between the jews and islam? Do you know that this struggle between them has been around long before america was even thought of? What exactly was the point of your post nich? Besides an excuse to show us some gore and casualties of a war that you know absolutely fucking shit about. Like most of the people said...have you even been out of fucking canada? Maybe you try to broaden your horizons on the friendly internet by looking up gorey pictures and posting links to them in a forum you know will repond negatively to them.
(you really thrive off of all this negative energy dont you) I dont understand you man i dont at all...honestly whos side are you on? im not implying that youre a good guy or a bad guy but whos fucking side are you on? Do you think the jews are wrong for wanting their supposed "holy land" or do you think islam is wrong? Would you destroy the dome of the rock or would you take pictures? Are the american soldiers in Iraq right for doing a job that they swore to do or do you honestly think were all cold blooded killers? Im sure that we can all agree on the fact that this is all George Bush's fault
(well the iraq part of it anyhow), but what the fuck can we do about it now, besides support all of them and pray that they make it home safe? Wait youre a canadian so you didnt get the chance to vote against bush!!
(no pun intended) i know i sure as hell voted against him. So lets think about this, i was a soldier, i served in a combat zone and i will be a soldier again if god permits...i know that ill most likely be put back in the situation that i was already in...but wait...i dont support bush...shit kinda seems like something isnt right huh? I must be a cold blooded killer whos only goal in life is to kill some women and children. <----thats sarcasm incase you didnt know.
honestly nich...have you ever put your neck on the line for anything ever? i dont think you have or ever will. I personally cannot fucking stand you at all but i hope and pray you or anyone on these forums will never see what these pictures are like in person. The images of the mangled bodies is usually not too hard to forget, but you will never fucking forget the smell. I dont mean rotting bodies or anything, i mean the iron smell of the blood or the fucking nasty stench of burnt flesh and hair, oh wait...dont forget about the smell of the shit and piss that these casualties let out just before they got blown to bits.
Imagine if these pictures were of someone you know or love...would you want some douchebag spreading them around a forum to support his creditless, and overall disgusting view of the world? I think not...have some fucking respect!!
hey makor01 have you seen that video circulating the internet and the news,its a terrorist video of a sniper attack against the marines?anyway the video shows an insurgent shoot a marine in the chest from a parked car.the marine falls down and then immediatly jumps back to his feet scanning for targets(talk about great training).the marines locate the terrorist sniper and shoot and wound him.low and behold the marine that the sniper tried to murder is the one that treats the wounded terrorist and saves his life.
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Originally Posted by stoner spirit
Hey nicholasstanko, if you want grafic pictures, go to ogrish.com. Enjoy.
no i dont WANT graphic pictures. i only posted that link because alot of people have this twisted version in their heads about what war is.
they imagine tanks moving through the desert completely immune to the bullets and bombs. in fact i bet some even believe that when soldiers are killed it's because they were kidnapped by extremem fundamentalists and tortured. it's pathetic.
so i said, if you guys want to see what war is, then by all means take a good hard look. anybody that supports the troops might want to support them all the way. not just ship 'em off and wishing really hard they come back home.
this is real life people. WAKE UP.
for God's sake, just wake up.
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i look at that shit everyday,dosent bother me even a little.actually,because i donate money to the adopt-a-sniper foundation,and send care packages to my buddy over there filled with wet naps,copenhagen,maxim magazines,kool-aid,beef jerkey i get a kick outta seeing the videos of our snipers popping caps in terrorists asses..brings a smile to my face,and a feeling of gratitude to my stomach.
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Originally Posted by amsterdam
i look at that shit everyday,dosent bother me even a little.actually,because i donate money to the adopt-a-sniper foundation,and send care packages to my buddy over there filled with wet naps,copenhagen,maxim magazines,kool-aid,beef jerkey i get a kick outta seeing the videos of our snipers popping caps in terrorists asses..brings a smile to my face,and a feeling of gratitude to my stomach.
I'll be damned!!! This is the new site which was formally adopt-a-sniper! I may just send a donation in the name of Nicholasstanko!!! :D
http://americansnipers.org/
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hell yes,i got a personel thank you letter from a guy stationed outside fallujah saying the scope was great and was working very well,i never asked what he meant by that but i got the picture.
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This is a nice............
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Originally Posted by makor01
Why in the fucking hell would you even begin to assume that amsterdam would shoot innocent bystanders? Jesus christ man you have this chip on your shoulder in assuming that everyone who joins the military is a cold blooded killer. What phony war are you referring to anyhow? The war between jews and islam or the war in iraq? If you meant the struggle between jews and islam why do you call it a phony war? Whos tactics do you agree with in this war? We both know that they use bombers and terrorist tactics, but who do you think is right in this "phony" war? How would your oh so superior mind think up an end to this struggle? I thought you said terrorism would stop when we leave iraq?
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You're a fool, makor. I never assumed amsterdam would shoot innocent bystanders. The fact is, you know as much (if not more) as i do that in the heat of combat, troops don't calmly walk around like an arnold movie. It's pretty much guns a blazin'.
The phony war im talking about is the war in iraq. I was using the israeli-palestine conflict to point out what the effects of war are on ordinary citizens. Also, i was in another thread pissed off at someone trying to defend israel as some sort of benign unfallible military power that did no wrong. I just made a new thread on the topic as a result.
I don't agree with any tactics in this war. i'm against the whole idea of pointless conflict. i'm sure that makes me anti-american somehow. However, i'd be more willing to sympathize with the jihadists' reasons for fighting. What would you do if you didn't have the luxury of tanks and airplanes and big manly m-16's? what would you do if your army was cowardly and ran away leaving you defenseless? what would you do if your mom or dad or both was killed when an AMERICAN plane swoops over and bombs it? what would you do if your brother was taken away by american troops even with no crimes against him? JUST WHAT THE FUCK WOULD YOU DO, MAKOR?
What would i do? what are my ideas? i'll tell you what my ideas are, makor. How about some authentic documents when testifying to congress the need to go to war? How about firing someone ANYONE in the bush admin. who failed to stop the phony terrorist attacks on sep 11? hmmm? How about reinforcing the border so mexican terrorists cant cross over and terrorise the southern states? How about when you drop soldiers in to liberate the people, you send them to guard the PEOPLE first and not the oil? Enough ideas yet? No? Well here's some more? How about some media coverage? How about some media coverage not dictated by the government? How about finding osama? How about taking some responsibility and addressing the nation from the capitol and not fort bragg? How about setting up some directive so that the iraqis always make the most profit form oil being exported NOT foreigners?
Nich i dont know what you hoped to achieve by this post. Do you know anything about the situation between the jews and islam? Do you know that this struggle between them has been around long before america was even thought of? What exactly was the point of your post nich?
Yeh i did know that, brainiac. What amazes me is that you find no correlation between their centuries old conflict and israel's deliberate placement in the region by the british. the same british bluebloods that are in power right now in the whitehouse.
Besides an excuse to show us some gore and casualties of a war that you know absolutely fucking shit about. Like most of the people said...have you even been out of fucking canada?
No it's NOT like how MOST people said. only amsterdam asked me that. and i HAVE been outside of canada. I've visited countries spanning four continents. I didn't have the luxury of using my stock market funds to aid me on my journey though.
Maybe you try to broaden your horizons on the friendly internet by looking up gorey pictures and posting links to them in a forum you know will repond negatively to them.
(you really thrive off of all this negative energy dont you)
Fuck you! You're pathetic. You're deliberately trying to make me look like some sicko. If i dont agree with the war, then im anti-american. if i try to show people that war isnt some videogame, then im some sick fuck who gets off on death. You have no fucking idea how to legitimately destabilise my arguements so you throw this bullshit abstract speculation in the hopes people will hate me and not even bother to read.
I dont understand you man i dont at all...honestly whos side are you on? im not implying that youre a good guy or a bad guy but whos fucking side are you on?
Let's see...so far i've argued that the troops were lied to, the american people were lied to, the world was lied to. I've shown links and provided evidence with actual quotes. Pisshead has done the same. We both think all troops should be brought home because they were lied to. iraq is falling apart, the president has no plan. he only recently gave a withdrawal timetable AFTER the iraqi gov. asked him to. The numbers of soldiers dying increases EVERYDAY and we still have no real arguable reason to be there. We want to protect troops from being killed under false pretenses. You know of these false pretenses, but yet you encourage them to stay just so you can save face. Just who's fucking side are YOU on, makor?
Do you think the jews are wrong for wanting their supposed "holy land" or do you think islam is wrong? Would you destroy the dome of the rock or would you take pictures? Are the american soldiers in Iraq right for doing a job that they swore to do or do you honestly think were all cold blooded killers?
The site where israel is now is not where israel once was. Anybody who even bothers to read up on the history knows that. I never doubted american soldiers doing their job, but THEY WERE LIED TO. that's the whole fucking point! Noone here is saying not to go to war because war is wrong. war is serious business and should be fought only as a last means. No because oil has monetary value. And while we're on the issue, STOP believing that every soldier is some brave freedom loving american apple. Alot of them are recruited from poor areas that know alot of crime. There are many, good guys but there are bad ones too. As much as it makes me "anti-american" to say that, it's true. not just america, canadians too. But get it out of your head that every soldier has your best interest in mind. It's a result of war, not because of any one country's ideals.
Im sure that we can all agree on the fact that this is all George Bush's fault
(well the iraq part of it anyhow), but what the fuck can we do about it now, besides support all of them and pray that they make it home safe?
ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?!? what can we do?!? are you that weak-minded? it's IMPOSSIBLE to bring the troops back? We can't march and DEMAND bush bring them home? america is supposed to be the strongest and mightiest country in the world. i used to talk about how great it is over there to all my friends when we were kids and we used to watch all of the tv shows. We even said that we'd join in the army and help rambo fight the enemy. Things changed, and now america is populated by a bunch of pussies that is run by corrupt governments that casually discuss nuking countries that dont agree to their terms. WHAT CAN WE DO? you're off your rocker, makor. the question really should be WHAT HAVE WE DONE?
Wait youre a canadian so you didnt get the chance to vote against bush!!
(no pun intended) i know i sure as hell voted against him. So lets think about this, i was a soldier, i served in a combat zone and i will be a soldier again if god permits...i know that ill most likely be put back in the situation that i was already in...but wait...i dont support bush...shit kinda seems like something isnt right huh? I must be a cold blooded killer whos only goal in life is to kill some women and children. <----thats sarcasm incase you didnt know.
You might not be cold-blooded killer, but you might as well be one if you dont support bush nor his policies, but yet you refuse to actively participate on getting straight answers from him. You're worse than a terrorist. you're a big fucking pussy that doesnt even deserve to have freedom. And that wasn't sarcasm in case you didnt know :mad:
honestly nich...have you ever put your neck on the line for anything ever? i dont think you have or ever will. I personally cannot fucking stand you at all but i hope and pray you or anyone on these forums will never see what these pictures are like in person. The images of the mangled bodies is usually not too hard to forget, but you will never fucking forget the smell. I dont mean rotting bodies or anything, i mean the iron smell of the blood or the fucking nasty stench of burnt flesh and hair, oh wait...dont forget about the smell of the shit and piss that these casualties let out just before they got blown to bits.
Have you ever truly fought for what's right and not just what would make people like you more? I don't care if you can stand me or not, because guess what? You're FREE to do so. I'm not here to be your friend or your chum. I'm here to discuss what's happening to OUR world that we have to share. And don't fucking tell me about dead mangled bodies. You werent there when a guy walked up to my buddy and shot him in the head right in front of me when he wouldnt get out of the car. You werent there when i had to explain to my sister why people shoot each other on the news if the news was supposed to be about real life. Fuck you, makor. I've seen lots of people die or get shot or stabbed in front of me for stupid reasons. i didnt need to enlist in the fucking army to see that. Fuck you, soldier boy. How about you rally to fight terrorism on your own streets?
Imagine if these pictures were of someone you know or love...would you want some douchebag spreading them around a forum to support his creditless, and overall disgusting view of the world? I think not...have some fucking respect!!
Yeh and imagine if you were in iraq right now. Would you want some complacent and stupid american asshole lounging around on his fancy computer casually talking about how our troops should keep up the good work? And my view of the world is dusgusting? at least i have a view that's my own, not some pro-war propaganda where they TELL you everything you need to know. Open your mind, and get a fucking clue in your head.
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Originally Posted by amsterdam
hey makor01 have you seen that video circulating the internet and the news,its a terrorist video of a sniper attack against the marines?anyway the video shows an insurgent shoot a marine in the chest from a parked car.the marine falls down and then immediatly jumps back to his feet scanning for targets(talk about great training).the marines locate the terrorist sniper and shoot and wound him.low and behold the marine that the sniper tried to murder is the one that treats the wounded terrorist and saves his life.
and in a nutshell you've proven that american troops= good and kind
iraqi insurgents= evil and deadly
i wish there were more troops that were like that guy. But in fairness, your post makes it look alot like propaganda.
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watch the video yourself.
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Originally Posted by amsterdam
watch the video yourself.
i saw it.
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You might not be cold-blooded killer, but you might as well be one if you dont support bush nor his policies, but yet you refuse to actively participate on getting straight answers from him. You're worse than a terrorist. you're a big fucking pussy that doesnt even deserve to have freedom. And that wasn't sarcasm in case you didnt know
HAHA nich, that is by far the funniest thing ive ever seen you post. Im worse than a terrorist? Im a big fucking pussy who doesnt deserve freedom? WOW man lmfao. Are you so out of good retorts that you have to pull shit like that out of that hole you call an ass? I didnt think they gave bronze stars and purple hearts to terrorists...they just give em free plane rides out of the country right? Well i guess there is a first time for everything in your world Nich. So let me see if i got you right here, youre saying that any person who has served or is serving in a combat zone now who doesnt support bush's ideals is a fucking pussy terrorist who needs no freedom? Ok so when i get my deployment orders im just supposed to say "hey fuck you sir i didnt vote for bush so im staying home?" I mean hell i can do that if i want a free trip to lock up...maybe when that happens ill get to meet some of your cousins inside and i can absorb some of that all knowing nich 6th sense. Cummon man share some of that knowledge that you hold captive in that ball of shit you call a brain. Get a fucking clue douchebag...you know not.
You're deliberately trying to make me look like some sicko
No man im not trying...you do that fine on your own. That requires no effort on my part.
Have you ever truly fought for what's right and not just what would make people like you more?
Yeah what i fought for was right...making sure that all my squad members get home safe and not in a body bag. If that earns me respect from people then thats fine, but i could give a shit less if anyone likes me more for it. Sadly thats something you will never understand. Afterall you have this shallow, 1 dimensional, angry black man mind that thinks youre the only person on this earth who can justify a war or anything else for that matter.
You werent there when a guy walked up to my buddy and shot him in the head right in front of me when he wouldnt get out of the car. You werent there when i had to explain to my sister why people shoot each other on the news if the news was supposed to be about real life. Fuck you, makor. I've seen lots of people die or get shot or stabbed in front of me for stupid reasons. i didnt need to enlist in the fucking army to see that. Fuck you, soldier boy. How about you rally to fight terrorism on your own streets?
Sounds to me like you need to complain about more important thinks like gang banging in your hometown. I bet that experience affected you more than this war in iraq has huh...but gang bangin is cool huh? i mean...all the rappers do it...so we will just ignore that one. Either way tho, i bet you wouldnt like some asshole like you spreading pictures of his brains splattered all over your seat huh? By the way is it just me or does that situation sound alot like the one in that movie menace to society? Hmmm maybe thats not as true as youd like it to be huh.
As for the rest of that bold statement...explaining shit like that to a younger sis is a hard thing huh, sadly its the world we live in tho right. My sister is 2 years younger than me and she fights me tooth and nail not to go back into the army after all that has happened...i just explain to her that its something that she wont understand, and i leave it at that. There is no simple black and white way to explain so a sibling how fucked up the world is. Let her make her own views.
What would you do if you didn't have the luxury of tanks and airplanes and big manly m-16's? what would you do if your army was cowardly and ran away leaving you defenseless? what would you do if your mom or dad or both was killed when an AMERICAN plane swoops over and bombs it? what would you do if your brother was taken away by american troops even with no crimes against him? JUST WHAT THE FUCK WOULD YOU DO, MAKOR?
Well my army isnt cowardly and my mom and dad are nice and safe where they are at the moment. My answer to these fucking stupid questions is "if if was a fifth, we would all be drunk, and if my aunt had balls she would be my uncle." Ding Ding Ding!! Ill take reasons why Nich is a douchebag for 200 please alex...!!
Open your mind, and get a fucking clue in your head.
Well youve already made it quite clear that since i dont smoke weed my mind wil never hold as many useful clues are your all knowing gray matter.
Basically Nich stripped down to the bare bones of it all, youre just an angry, most likely short (short man syndrome), untalented douchebag who just gets off on ruffling peoples feathers...so tonight when youre masturbating to crossfire on CNN with thoughts of libs and conservs in your minds eye. Take a look in the mirror and realize how much of a fucking loser you truly are.
P.S. You said Fuck about 10 or 11 times in that whole mess of nonsense you just wrote...are you truly as such a loss for words lol? I thought a brainiac lke you would try to wuuu me with 5 or 10 dollar words. I laugh at you Nich.
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Lmao, just read the OP and i've got a serious question to ask you...
why the fuck do you care? its not you, its not your family. you can't make a difference. just forget them and get on with your own life. big deal we have it better than them!
if you're so concerned go book a flight out there now and try to help them out. otherwise forget it! it doesnt affect you
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well looking at the pictures and letter i was sent from a marine seargent in fallujah,the scope i bought was put to great use and is apparently quite effective.
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HAHA nich, that is by far the funniest thing ive ever seen you post. Im worse than a terrorist? Im a big fucking pussy who doesnt deserve freedom? WOW man lmfao.
Laugh it up, makor. You might as well throw your freedom away. you obviously dont care about it. you didn't make any real comments or input. you just criticised me for how i wanted to do it. It's people like you that makes the world hate america more and more. you keep it up and let the news stations fool you. You use your past service as an excuse to say you know everything that's going on. Everyone else's opinions dont matter because you were in the thick of it. Whatever.
Are you so out of good retorts that you have to pull shit like that out of that hole you call an ass? I didnt think they gave bronze stars and purple hearts to terrorists...they just give em free plane rides out of the country right?
Hey, dont ask me why the bin laden family was "accidentally" flown out of the country on the first private planes. Ask Bush. Ask Rumsfeld or Cheney or Rove. Don't ask the guy who's scared shitless of nuclear weapons being rained down on him. are you going to protect us all from the nuclear fallout? Are you going to protect us from the "terrorists" you have to fly hundreds upon hundreds of miles to fight?
Well i guess there is a first time for everything in your world Nich. So let me see if i got you right here, youre saying that any person who has served or is serving in a combat zone now who doesnt support bush's ideals is a fucking pussy terrorist who needs no freedom?
No, im not saying that, as much as it would help you win an arguement. I'm saying that YOU know you were lied to. YOU know that there are other people signing up and dying based on a lie. YOU refuse to even acknowledge it's possibility. So guess what? you think you're some kind of big man? you think your the real american hero? well guess what? you're not. Any person with the right info in his brain but conciously fails to even explore the idea,(if only to discredit it) is more like treason to me. You say you support the troops fighting the war...but are you sure you just dont support the troops fighting the war FOR YOU?
Ok so when i get my deployment orders im just supposed to say "hey fuck you sir i didnt vote for bush so im staying home?" I mean hell i can do that if i want a free trip to lock up...maybe when that happens ill get to meet some of your cousins inside and i can absorb some of that all knowing nich 6th sense. Cummon man share some of that knowledge that you hold captive in that ball of shit you call a brain. Get a fucking clue douchebag...you know not.
When you get your deployment orders, you should be able to look inside yourself and come to your own conclusion. other than that, you're the perfect soldier. easy to manipulate and easy to follow orders.
I dont care who you voted for. A positive conscience (sp) used to be enough to get REAL soldiers to sign up to fight. It's something that's supposed to transcend the laws of man. Back in the forties, people signed up to fight because it was the RIGHT thing to do, not because the president said so.
And hey, makor, if your such a big fucking pussy, you dont want to stir up trouble because of some potential jailtime, then which army really has any use for you. it's pathetic. there used to be a time when people didn't care about what "the man" said. They never would let their freedom of choice be usurped. Now with big complacent guys like you, we have a lot more bitching and alot less action.
Yeah what i fought for was right...making sure that all my squad members get home safe and not in a body bag. If that earns me respect from people then thats fine, but i could give a shit less if anyone likes me more for it. Sadly thats something you will never understand. Afterall you have this shallow, 1 dimensional, angry black man mind that thinks youre the only person on this earth who can justify a war or anything else for that matter.
So how many troops would have had to come home in body bags if Bush and his team hadn't lied about iraq? Why arent you angry at that? you're angry at ME?! the guy who wants soldiers to come home safe? you're a fucking lunatic with a rather warped sense of loyalty. People would respect you a whole lot more if you took a stand against being LIED TO but still offered to fight if it meant saving your fellow troops.
You're basically saying that if the call comes, you'd go no questions asked. but it's not because your brave...it's because your scared of the consequences of not appearing brave. Go to some grave sites of your fallen friends. Tell them that you're doing all you can to send some more to them.
Sounds to me like you need to complain about more important thinks like gang banging in your hometown. I bet that experience affected you more than this war in iraq has huh...but gang bangin is cool huh? i mean...all the rappers do it...so we will just ignore that one. Either way tho, i bet you wouldnt like some asshole like you spreading pictures of his brains splattered all over your seat huh? By the way is it just me or does that situation sound alot like the one in that movie menace to society? Hmmm maybe thats not as true as youd like it to be huh.
Gang banging is not cool. it's a way of life for some people to survive. Yeh, and i'm black so i must do it because the rappers think it's neat. you racist fuck. I won't even bother to comment on how your observation is flawed on so many levels. Why don't you ask Bush to send more money to iraq? It certainly isnt going into the educational system. It sure isnt going into protecting both our borders. It sure isnt going to new defense technologies. It's all going to iraq. And guess who has to pick up the pieces thirty forty years from now when Bush has long gone to hell? Patriotism isnt just about who signs up to shoot the fastest...it's about protecting one's home too. You really need to go to iraq to achieve that? But what do i know, im just another stupid gangbanger who likes rap music.
As for the pics. I dont care if it's me that gets shot and my picture was floating around. If it was the reality wake up call needed to encourage others not to support "gangbanging" and ending up like me. I don't need a fucking cnn or cbc news report done on me. I dont need to be viewed as some valiant "patriot".
And makor, don't you ever dare question me about real life and movies again. I mean it. My friend was shot years before that movie was even released. i was 12.
As for the rest of that bold statement...explaining shit like that to a younger sis is a hard thing huh, sadly its the world we live in tho right. My sister is 2 years younger than me and she fights me tooth and nail not to go back into the army after all that has happened...i just explain to her that its something that she wont understand, and i leave it at that. There is no simple black and white way to explain so a sibling how fucked up the world is. Let her make her own views.
like how you made your own view to ignore the facts pointing to the corrupt and greedy? no thanks, i'm not going to risk my sister being bamboozled for years like i was. I tend to care about other people not just myself.
Well my army isnt cowardly and my mom and dad are nice and safe where they are at the moment. My answer to these fucking stupid questions is "if if was a fifth, we would all be drunk, and if my aunt had balls she would be my uncle." Ding Ding Ding!! Ill take reasons why Nich is a douchebag for 200 please alex...!!
Well fucking good for you. You just live the good life now dont you? Now answer the question. What would you do if the situation were reversed. You didnt even attempt.
Well youve already made it quite clear that since i dont smoke weed my mind wil never hold as many useful clues are your all knowing gray matter.
unfortunately, this is true. but something tells me i wouldnt need weed to win an arguement or make better judgements than you could. Keep insulting me and being a smartass. Five years from now, come back and give me a list of all the countries that fully support america's war. i'll even let you throw in the u.k. (politicians that is)
Basically Nich stripped down to the bare bones of it all, youre just an angry, most likely short (short man syndrome), untalented douchebag who just gets off on ruffling peoples feathers...so tonight when youre masturbating to crossfire on CNN with thoughts of libs and conservs in your minds eye. Take a look in the mirror and realize how much of a fucking loser you truly are.
Nope. I'm 6'2. Just read over what you just wrote. if you can validify any of your statements, then feel free to bask in the warmth of all-knowingness. I want the troops to be brought back and Bush made to answer for his decisions that have endangered americans canadians and britons alike. You want to ignore it and keep shooting people that dont deserve it.
And i'm the loser...
P.S. You said Fuck about 10 or 11 times in that whole mess of nonsense you just wrote...are you truly as such a loss for words lol? I thought a brainiac lke you would try to wuuu me with 5 or 10 dollar words. I laugh at you Nich
It's okay man. You can laugh if you want. I just wish I couldve gotten the joke. :( People are dying dude. People are being killed for no reason other than to keep them in servitude to western powers. And somehow that's okay if you call it "freedom".
People are dying man. When has that ever been okay?
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Lmao, just read the OP and i've got a serious question to ask you...
why the fuck do you care? its not you, its not your family. you can't make a difference. just forget them and get on with your own life. big deal we have it better than them!
if you're so concerned go book a flight out there now and try to help them out. otherwise forget it! it doesnt affect you
and that ladies and gentleman...is just a small example of the few, the proud, and brave that seek to defend this country and other countries from the tyranny of opression.
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sadly most black people do continue in their lifestyles because they think its cool and the rappers talk about it in their music.you can attempt calling me a rascist if you want,everyone is in one sense or another.im with bill cosby.
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sadly most black people do continue in their lifestyles because they think its cool and the rappers talk about it in their music.you can attempt calling me a rascist if you want,everyone is in one sense or another.im with bill cosby.
yeh...but what else do they have? see, you live in a world that's separate. where people actually complain and rally protests if schools are underfunded...if people run around the streets shooting each other over illegal drugs. I dont think you're a racist. I think you just dont know how it is for real.
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EVERYONE is a racist in one way or another.
i didnt grow up in some gated community?
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i'm not arguing that. so how is that relevant to the topic thread?
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where are you, makor? where are your smartass comments?
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Originally Posted by Juggalotus17
Lmao, just read the OP and i've got a serious question to ask you...
why the fuck do you care? its not you, its not your family. you can't make a difference. just forget them and get on with your own life. big deal we have it better than them!
if you're so concerned go book a flight out there now and try to help them out. otherwise forget it! it doesnt affect you
hmm..i think that everything, everyone is connected.
besides, it seems like the world could use more compassion and empathy not less. so stfu and pass the blunt cause youve been owned once again :cool:
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hmm..i think that everything, everyone is connected.
besides, it seems like the world could use more compassion and empathy not less. so stfu and pass the blunt cause youve been owned once again :cool:
just look at his avatar. i'd be surprised if he knew any kind of reality outside of gay death metal bands that imagine problems for themselves.
My parents are forcing me to go to college--- i hate my life.
I live in a middle-class neighbourhood-- i hate my life
rich people have everything-- i hate my life
bullshit like that.
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the only people who actually help people are RICH people.how many poor people belong to the sierra club?its money and technology that stand the best chance of helping anyone.not idiot white kids with dreadlocks who have NO CLUE what they are protesting or why.
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have you ever been to Israel?
It would be a good idea to go to Isreal, or better yet, live there if you want to have a better idea of the blatant racism against Arabs there. But really, many Isreals themselves are ignorant of what is going on in there own country. Take for example, the typical surburban experience here in the US. I live in the US, but I am ignorant of the many diverse experiences of other comunities in the US. And lets not forget how the Israeli government intself hides information from the international media. How many journalists were allowed to survey the damage in jenin after the Isreali army stormed there and obliterated the town? They dont want anyone to know that hundreds of people died there. Go to Isreal, sure, but instead of hitting a big city where you can comfortably eat at McDonalds and hit a nightclub, why dont you go to the illegal Jewish settlements where settlers aften bully the muslim and christian natives there, or go to the countless palestinian ghettos where Palestinian children are frequently gunned down by soldiers.
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really?i spent about 2 months there and hung out with arabs and jews alike.its the tiny section of extremist losers who spoil it for everyone.
go to israel and then talk propaganda victim.
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where are you, makor? where are your smartass comments?
Well nich after reading this comment by you "Go to some grave sites of your fallen friends. Tell them that you're doing all you can to send some more to them." I realized that there is no talking to you...youre a typical anti this anti that unless it benefits me type of guy. Youll never understand anything im trying to say because you havent done what ive done. Maybe i was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt by thinking well maybe he will see what im talking about. But behold once again you cant even grasp a simple fact that im trying to convey. Sometimes you should listen to those with hands on experience....you might learn something.
By no means do i think because of my service i know it all. I simply use my experiences to argue your fucking sickening and disgusting posts. I dont know about you but i know i would want info from someone who knows the situation up close and personal rather than from some one sided douchebag like you. You can sit there and think youre right about all these 2 dollar arguments you bring up on this site but youll never honestly know if youre right or wrong.
Nich i think youre getting the impression that i signed up right after 9/11 or something but thats not true...ive been in the army since 1996. I went to afghanistan with an optimistic mind, thinking that maybe we would catch BinLaden, but we didnt..."oh well lets get out of here alive". Dont you even for one fucking second think that you have the absolute mindpower to trivialize what having a squadmember die is like not to mention being seriously wounded like i was. You lack the experience and a spine to even talk about that, you spit on the grave of anyone who has ever given their life for the United States. You are a fucking coward piece of shit, stay in Canada.
For you to sit there and basically deem my loss and my squads loss as useless sickens me to no end. You are truly a disgusting person, if i had the chance i wouldnt lose a second of sleep about introducing you to my baseball bat. But thats violence so we wont go there or you might scream Racism Rasicm!!! like you already have. I dont mind blacks at all nich, but youre one nigger i cant stand. Maybe ill get banned for saying that if so then good, i wont have to read your fucking spew anymore.
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NO NO NO. because i can see the proof? that's why i'm wrong?
Not just the internet! i happen to live in one of the most multicultural cities in the world. ive talked to many people from the middle east who tell me about how much they hated america for wht they had done to them FOR NO REASON. that's why they came to canada.
And i'll bet you all the sheesha in cairo your good friends who gave you the thumbs up were just as stupid and naive as i once was. and get this, i lived closer and was absorbed by more american propaganda than they probably ever will.
SO DONT TRY TO GIVE ME THIS "THEY ALL LOVE US" bullshit. you think a couple of sheesha smoking american-duped egyptians speak for the country...the region?!?? get a clue.
And i'd love to see what your friends say when america finds no more use for their corrupted officials and rapes their country. You ever been to the bahamas? why dont you try to explain to all of us about how america purposely keeps the citizens down subtley to ensure that the prosperous black nation cannot rise and cannot sign any more deals with china.
TELL US ALL ABOUT IT AMSTERDAM!
TELL US ABOUT THE GREAT AND WONDERFUL WORLD WHERE AMERICA AND BRITAIN CAN DO NO WRONG.
TELL US MORE ABOUT OUR WONDERFUL ISRAELI FRIENDS.
TELL US MORE ABOUT HOW EVIL FREEDOM HATING MUSLIMS MUST DIE.
i just love the bullshit.
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yes you sure do
frankly nick your showing a side i never seen yet
i am amazed you didnt revert to name calling
or did ya,yea wait ya did
Excuse me
"just as stupid and naive as i once was"
many of us says to our dumass selfs
'ONCE"??????
wtf talking bout once.
i dont think you even realize what part of your personality is showing
it aint pretty or nice nick
i mean no bad thing by telling ya this i care less about you in particular mainly due to how i see you as thinking about america
your of no concern of mine but reading how you continue to poke at the beehive waiting for a buzz is kinda sad,
do u ever read what you write?
and last but not least
good luck, you will need it in life with your attitude
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Well nich after reading this comment by you "Go to some grave sites of your fallen friends. Tell them that you're doing all you can to send some more to them." I realized that there is no talking to you...youre a typical anti this anti that unless it benefits me type of guy. Youll never understand anything im trying to say because you havent done what ive done. Maybe i was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt by thinking well maybe he will see what im talking about. But behold once again you cant even grasp a simple fact that im trying to convey. Sometimes you should listen to those with hands on experience....you might learn something.
By no means do i think because of my service i know it all. I simply use my experiences to argue your fucking sickening and disgusting posts. I dont know about you but i know i would want info from someone who knows the situation up close and personal rather than from some one sided douchebag like you. You can sit there and think youre right about all these 2 dollar arguments you bring up on this site but youll never honestly know if youre right or wrong.
Nich i think youre getting the impression that i signed up right after 9/11 or something but thats not true...ive been in the army since 1996. I went to afghanistan with an optimistic mind, thinking that maybe we would catch BinLaden, but we didnt..."oh well lets get out of here alive". Dont you even for one fucking second think that you have the absolute mindpower to trivialize what having a squadmember die is like not to mention being seriously wounded like i was. You lack the experience and a spine to even talk about that, you spit on the grave of anyone who has ever given their life for the United States. You are a fucking coward piece of shit, stay in Canada.
For you to sit there and basically deem my loss and my squads loss as useless sickens me to no end. You are truly a disgusting person, if i had the chance i wouldnt lose a second of sleep about introducing you to my baseball bat. But thats violence so we wont go there or you might scream Racism Rasicm!!! like you already have. I dont mind blacks at all nich, but youre one nigger i cant stand. Maybe ill get banned for saying that if so then good, i wont have to read your fucking spew anymore.
Hate being cornered in your own bullshit huh? you ever notice that no matter how many times i tell you that i want the troops home safe, you always bring up some ridiculous bullshit about how i must hate them. Then you throw in a dead buddy for good effect.
What? a soldier got killed by an extremem fundamentalist AFTER he was ordered to invade the country? well i know how to fix that! let's send even more troops. Let's ignore the reasons and motives for the war. Let's just keep sendin em over.
And once again, dont give me this bullshit about losing friends. YOURE NOT THE ONLY MOTHERFUCKER THAT HAS SEEN PEOPLE DIE! i'm not going to repeat what i said before, you obviously love to ignore the points that contradict your arguement.
And i dont know or really care about how you feel about "blacks". if you think it's perfectly fine to generalise millions of people into a uniform behavioral or social complex, then i don't know man. i just dont know. I'm not some black company manager selling my product. i dont need your fucking opinion on what you think of other people with the same skin color as me.
if you see this war as honorable and fine and if you see me as an asshole because i hate how lives were wasted, and if you think i hate america, and if you think i'm scum for voicing my opinion in the "most democratic" nation on earth, then you're not reading me right.
if you still think i'm dog vomit feel free to exercise your first amendment right of using the ignore button.
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i just love the bullshit.
yes you sure do
frankly nick your showing a side i never seen yet
i am amazed you didnt revert to name calling
or did ya,yea wait ya did
Excuse me
"just as stupid and naive as i once was"
many of us says to our dumass selfs
'ONCE"??????
wtf talking bout once.
i dont think you even realize what part of your personality is showing
it aint pretty or nice nick
i mean no bad thing by telling ya this i care less about you in particular mainly due to how i see you as thinking about america
your of no concern of mine but reading how you continue to poke at the beehive waiting for a buzz is kinda sad,
do u ever read what you write?
and last but not least
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thanks for the post.
i'm not going to hide it. i am angry. im angry at where our world is going. It's always war war war. when i was younger, whenever we talked about the space program, it was always about collecting space dust and watching super novas.
now the only thing we hear is strapping a laser beam on it to destroy everyone. i hate how more and more americans just let the fire of independace burn out. i was once wholly influenced by american culture. I learned everything good and noble from watching american movies. the heros going into war and liberating people without shooting em first. Sure they were flicks, but noone ever complained that it was an inaccurate portrayal.
Dont you guys see what's been done? why cant you? the bush admin. has successfully divided america, and everyone just rolls over and farts. republicans love the troop, democrats hate the troops. hiillary clinton actually had TO CALL for partisanship? that makes sense to you?
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Hate being cornered in your own bullshit huh? you ever notice that no matter how many times i tell you that i want the troops home safe, you always bring up some ridiculous bullshit about how i must hate them. Then you throw in a dead buddy for good effect.
No you fucking pathetic excuse for a human being, i would never use a dead buddy for good effect. But the simple fact here is that you are trying to make it look like any soldier in my direct company is a cold blooded terrorist. Fuck you for those comments, you might not hate all the soldiers but the ones youve voiced your opinions on have no doubt on where you stand.
What? a soldier got kililed by an extremem fundamentalist AFTER he was ordered to invade the country? well i know how to fix that! let's send even more troops. Let's ignore the reasons and motives for the war. Let's just keep sendin em over.
This is something we will never agree on therefor i choose not to go into that argument any further.
And once again, dont give me this bullshit about losing friends. YOURE NOT THE ONLY MOTHERFUCKER THAT HAS SEEN PEOPLE DIE! i'm not going to repeat what i said before, you obviously love to ignore the points that contradict your arguement.
Nothing that i have said has contradicted my arguement. I "Simply" try to convey my experiences in a simple manner in which your simple and obviously lesser mind could possibly understand. Then again i realize that there is no getting through to a pathetic excuse for a human being like you.
And i dont know or really care about how you feel about "blacks". if you think it's perfectly fine to generalise millions of people into a uniform behavioral or social complex, then i don't know man. i just dont know. I'm not some black company manager selling my product. i dont need your fucking opinion on what you think of other people with the same skin color as me.
No, actually this is my opinion of you personally. I have an adopted black brother who happens to be in the army aslo. My family adopted him when he was 2 years old, then i was born 3 years later. I am not a racist person by any means, i do call a spade a spade however.
if you see this war as honorable and fine and if you see me as an asshole because i hate how lives were wasted, and if you think i hate america, and if you think i'm scum for voicing my opinion in the "most democratic" nation on earth, then you're not reading me right.
I see any war as honorable and fine from a soldiers point of view, this is the job that we chose for ourselves. Thats nothing i can ever expect you to understand, and i know youd never be able to comprehend it. The only thing a soldiers has going for him is the friend/fellow soldier next to him. We depend nothing on the opinions of the fuckheads like you on this earth, your breath has been wasted.
if you still think i'm dog vomit feel free to exercise your first amendment right of using the ignore button.
I like how you make this reply after the fact that i got myself banned...Well buddy. The responses in the feedback and suggestions basically pegs you as being a fucking whiney piece of shit who needs to shut the fuck up for once. Peace my brutha.