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you know, i've never physically heard his voice, but every time i sincerely ask the holy spirt fill me with his love, all the hair on my arms stand up. you know it seems you might not have the experiences because you have'nt seeked them? any ways i am sure i am not schizophrenic. also i think the experiances would be different with each individual as all relationships are different.
lol i was jokin about the "schizophrenic" thing
but seriously, it doesnt matter why i dont believe in god or why i havent found god.. all that matters is i dont want to, i dont feel i need to, and i dont believe him.. all that matters is what i think, and all that matters to u is what u think.. its not important if we dont agree :)
you are very correct
about agreeing
and I force nothing on no one
just wanted to share my way
I know it's all ok!
:):)
im not singling you out razer, but i'de like you to read this quote
I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent and omnipotent God would have designedly created parasitic wasps with the express intention of their feeding within the living bodies of Caterpillars.
-Charles Darwin
There is only one true source of faith" we must walk with Christ" Jesus(yeshua) is the way....any other way is the wrong way!
you shouldnt need to have things physically proven... thats the whole point in jesus and god, having faith.. its hard to picture if you werent brought up in a christian background, but just look at the wonderful things we have on earth... ( pot for example) lol someone had to put them here...
i dunno... i wish my faith was as strong as it used to be, i think pot messes with your faith
yeah ok so maybe someone or something had to put it there.. how can people of faith (you included) be so arrogant as to say you know the answer?
I don't affiliate myself with any religious groups. However, I was raised Catholic so I do have some preexisting knowledge on that subject.
I think where Christianity goes wrong is when people the bible literally. I think it should be read more subjectively and metaphorically. I don't call myself a Christian, but I do believe in the basic teachings of Jesus Christ. He was certainly a remarkable man with many important universal teachings. Love thy neighbor, be a good person, have respect for your fellow man.
It's when people make assumptions and read the Bible to closely when problems start. For example, I don't see how any person that calls him or herself a Christian(follower of Christ) can justify hate through their religion. Like these hardcore fundamentalist who say that "God hates Gays" and justifies their hatred with some obscure text in the Bible. If God truly hates gays, I would say look up into the heavens, raise my middle finger, and proclaim "Fuck you."
However the God that I've been taught exists is a God of love. The God that I know doesn't hate anyone, in fact he loves every single person. If I am somehow wrong about this, then I will renounce my faith on the spot.
About the evolution quip. It is called the Theory of Evolution because the only way to make it a Law would be to go back in time and observe the changes, since that is impossible, it "technically" remains a "theory". It is accepted as Fact in the Scientific and Christian communities. There is no argument that evolution took place, that is a fact, however the argument is about how the process of evolution occurred.
I've talked to my priest about this, so I'm not just pulling this out of my ass. The only Christian groups which don't accept evolution as fact are fundamental extremist groups. The Catholic church, on the other hand, has openly accepted evolution. There is really no way to deny it. The evidence is there. Cold, hard fossil facts.
However I don't limit myself to merely Christian thinking. I've done research on Buddhism and Hinduism. I agree with a lot of what these and other Eastern spiritual groups believe in.
I'll mold my own belief system based on my own personal spiritual experiences. I think more people ought to do that instead of blindly following one particular group.
Ultimately i think every religion shares the same moral teachings and whether or not you believe in God, we can all be benefit from following them. I do believe in creation for the fact that science can't explain what the "big-bang" came from and so on and so on . Although I don't see God as many Christians do, i still believe in a superior being or entity....good or bad. Evolution?....maybe, but i don"t think we came from apes. If we did, then why are apes still here?
Hmm, how about because those caterpillars defoliate plants if they don't get eaten somehow, some way... a bunch of birds could die for some reason, it's a failsafe. I'm not saying it proves anything, just that it's not an illogic.Quote:
Originally Posted by naturalmystic