So what your saying is that using nutes up to right when you cut it(MEANING NO FLUSH) will cause a burn? I was under the impression that if you use too much you get a burn....???
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So what your saying is that using nutes up to right when you cut it(MEANING NO FLUSH) will cause a burn? I was under the impression that if you use too much you get a burn....???
In a water cure, you're supposed to lose most of the taste, but it will be a smoother less harsher smoker. I would think it would be easier to get rid of chlorophyl from a dried dead bud than a live chopped bud. And yes, if you aren't careful, you will lose ALOT of trichromes. Like that guy said he put a glass plate to hold them down..every trichrome that came in contact with the plate and the bottom of the cooler was probably broken off and either stuck to the plate or bottom of the cooler. I'd say if your going to water cure, you are going to want to use a tumbler to scrape off all the trichs to make keif. Unless you say, tie a string to a rock and to the stem, and let the bud sit there suspended if it floats. you also don't want the buds to be bumping into each other in the water, this is enough to break open/off trichromes. And you don't want to add ice to the water, you want to refrigerate it, because ice cold contact with buds can cause water inside to form crystals with sharp points, causing damage to the buds. It saddens me that most people probably lose 50% of quality just from incorrect handling/storage of buds..and they don't even realize it.
i thought u dry first, not cure, then water cure.
some say you can even skip the dry and go straight to water cure. It makes sense since you are gonna wet it again anyway.
makes the dope look like shit & it raises all kinds of drying issues relating to mold & what not.
makes the dope look like shit & it raises all kinds of drying issues relating to mold & what not.
sorry about dbl post
I use an old beer cooler and some chicken wire and a cup or 2 of ice.
I place the water and ice in and let it chill for a bit.
I then place the chicken wire in so that it holds the ice down.
One by one i carefully place the buds in
Then i secure chicken wire to pre-made notches so it keeps the buds below the waterline.
This works for me, and when I filter out the water, there arent that many trichomes lost, and the ones that broke off, I smoke.
Water curing works! I tried it on some cheap schwag, and turned it into some smooth smoking, head warming stuff. Not as good as home grown sensi obviously, but it will make schwag into some good mids. I havent tried it on fresh grown weed yet. I plan to soak a few of my buds and see how it goes.
I just have to ask...You guys ever notice that none of the mentors or moderators or really respected growers ever agree with this technique??? that should tell you something
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Originally Posted by latewood
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Or even semi-alright growers.Quote:
Originally Posted by latewood
now your are the only person i have heard that from after 5 yrs ago i read the pshycology article about that. it had all the reasearch and data sources. but i will give a brief overview.Quote:
Originally Posted by PRiMe4u
ever scince they have been examining the dendrite in the brain they found a nueral recepter that they had no idea what it was a recepter for. so it became a research project many many scentists worked on for 15 to 20 years with no answers. then one scientist found the answer. it was for thc.
he found that answer in 1998 he gave all his research to his 100 biggest sceptics. all but one came to same conclusion after working it for 2 yrs. the one sceintist that went against it only worked it for 2 months and said it is inconclusive can you all guess who that one worked for. THE US GOVERNMENT he was under federal contract to disprove the science. the us government also went so far as removing federal grants from the original researcher and 35 of the 100. and threatened the others to not publically reveal there findings or they would lose there funding and grants.
if this information gets proved and is accepted by the worlds scientists then marijuana can no longer be concidered harmful and it will force leaglization.
now what we have to do is make sure the sceince comunity gets involved and keeps publishing and advancing this agenda!!!!
now we have a leagle drug that is harmful to the brain(kills brain cells, damages dendrites, causes birtyh defects, and kills more people every year then the entire vietnam war. that drug is alcohol!!
sorry about going off on a rant and kind hi-jacking this thread but after i saw someone else knew that information i could not help myself!!
spankey
Or they haven't tried it, or simply don't understand the concept???Quote:
Originally Posted by latewood
i have water cured lots of times and it was bought not grown and everytime i did it the weed came out great. lol i find it funny how bob bong thinks so highly of himself, doesn't even know what he's talking about.
I gotta speak on this subject once again. I notice that when a controversial or experimental idea comes out (ie. water cure or LED lights), there will be a whole LOT of talk, both negative and positive on the subject. But it will be only talk. We need to actually TRY and DO the techniques so that we will know if they are any good. I have tried the water cure and found that it works. I love the many who will down the idea, but have never tried it themselves to know just WHAT they are speaking out against. The subject of CFLs used to be bad in this respect, and to some extent, it still is. Many who never tried CFLs will stand up on the fence and crow all day about how it would never work. But these would be mostly people who had never tried it themselves to make an educated decision. I know plenty of folks who have used CFLs and grown good weed. I know that the water cure does work and produces stronger, smoother herb (in some cases, too smooth). The jury is still out on LED lighting, but we do have a few adventurous souls on these boards who are using them as suplimental lighting. Nobody has yet reported on the use of a ground rod and a metal "antenna plate" to put voltage to the soil to grow plants with no or low light. I personally would like to do some research into that in the near future. My point is that these boards represent the forefront of cannabis growing technology and techniques. We need to TRY new things and THEN say whether they are good or bad techniques to use. That is how new techniques become the standard in the future. Let's not be closed minded, but rather strive to upgrade the art. Uneducated naysayers are detrimental to progress... hasn't the use of psychedelics opened your minds to this fact yet???!
Peace,
White Wolf
Does this really work just cut the plant down and keep it submerged in 50 degree water for three days and 2 days drying any one else try this i would need a few people to tell me they tried it before i did it
It works. lol. people do it all the time, u can expect to get less yeild, but an extremely smooth smoke.
The method that I tried was a small batch, just for a test. I took a metal "tea ball" and placed 3 buds of mexican schwag in it. I dropped it into a large coffee cup of water and let it soak for two days, and I shook the tea ball around a few times over this time, as well as changed the water once. . By the second day, you could smell the stench off the water, and it was a brownish green. I removed the soaked and plumped buds and set them on top of a paper towel and left it on top of the tv to warm. In less than a day the buds were dry and looked dark brown/green/black. They were also a bit crumbly once you touched them. I tried some out and it was SMOOTH. I mean like there was not much weed flavor at all, not even much of a burning taste at all. This is where the fun comes in. You will think that you aren't hitting for crap because the smoke is so mild BUT it will knock you for a loop, compared to the quality it was before. This is a good way to go in making schwag more potent. As for dank, I like the flavor and strength so much that I wouldldn't really want to ruin the flavor of it, but what a strength it would have. It is like making a mild grade of hash... you have less vegetable matter left, with the same amount of THC that it originally had. This makes for a higher percentage of THC by weight.
Peace,
White Wolf
water won't take the tricomes off. Or at least they shouldn't. I am pretty sure it won't, especially if it is cold water.
I water cured part of my last grow....it will lose some of the sent and the yield is less but the THC content remains the same so in effect its more potent bud.
Yes it is super smooth and the buds form up real nice....very dense and very clean smoke.
I find this to be ideal for medical grows since you flush out all of the nasties or you can fert till the very end upping your harvest and still end up with good flushed bud. It will lose bag appeal but thats about it....it turns slightly darker and gets real nice and dense.
Dont knock it till you try it.
Just lay the buds out in 1 layer in a cooler or something and fill it, dont mix them just let them be then dump the water through the bung and refill. The air dry doesnt take very long that way.
Water curing is cool but it takes away too much taste to really have any practical use for good weed. Its a great technique for a shit grow or mids...
well i tell you what guys i have 5 plants coming down tonight and will water cure one plant and air dry and jar cure the rest of them, i had this idea in mind a few months ago deciding how ill do it plus i need some for the 4th of july.
tell you how it goes
the water cure plant smells like sweet MJ already when i change out the water and is also shrinking in size as i expected it too, so far it looks good and think this will be a fast way to get some quick herb.
Umm wat do you do if the leaves on a plant wilter after it being transported? ( nothing to do with the topic )
this is v.2 of OMG!!'s adventures in threadjacking... I'm off to find v.3... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by OMG!!
i had a buddy who water cured a plant of strawberry cough using this method and it ruined the taste/smoke/high. not worth it
well i gave it a try and just didnt like it, the plant did look like it had 200 times the trichromes after she shrunk but the look and taste of the bud wasnt all that good, it appeared very brown like brick weed, didnt taste like much of anything, the high was just ok, the air dried plants looked,smelled,and gave a way better high.
I propose that the 'high' is determined before one ever lights the weed, being that 'the high' itself is subjective.
For example someone who wants a non-scrog non-CF grow to not be as good as a 1k HPS scrog will make it so, and vice versa. Not exactly the scientific method.
Although I don't understand the logic of soaking buds (or whole plants) in water, I hold my judgment until I can truly say "Damn that was some mean shit!", taking into account other variables such as tolerance and mood and thereafter am informed of the curious curing method.
Of course, that would be subjective too.
Also anything that detracts from that lovely marijuana smell/taste would also make my subjective high a little less, so that would be a minus if true, and that's something that's not nearly as subjective as the 'the high'.
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I agree there mostly. My opinopn is that water curing does make the weed stronger, but it loses so much of the taste and smell that It takes away from the experience for those of us who like the flavor of weed. It makes schwagg weed stronger, and would be great for newbies, who maybe dont like the strong smell or taste of weed so much, but want the high.
Peace,
White Wolf
wtf are you talking about?Quote:
Originally Posted by chaliceburn
trichomes do not wash off in water unless the temperature is very high. trichomes are water insoluble. so long as the buds are handled carefully and gently trichomes will not come off.
you are right that the potential of the high is predetermined. the point of the water cure is to leech out of the buds ferts, sugars, chlorophile by osmosis (grd 9 chemistry). when the bud has dried it will weigh less because of this. this means that the result is the same amount of trichomes in a more concentrated smoke or vape with far less non desireable elements. as for the fragrance of aromatics; that exists in the trichomes. A second way of doing the water cure is to immerse dried buds in water. i use a sealed mason jar, changing the water ever other day for a week. the resulting bud, after drying, has the colour of chocolate. very yummy.
respectfully, um, water it?
Easy to think it got 'stronger' because its more high per weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by maarty10
but the amount of THC does not change before or after, if anything, it would be less THC IF trichomes happened to get brushed off or broken while handling.
Guys, this thread is almost a year old! Let it go! :jointsmile:
if you wanna smoke your plant fast you can use the water cure method but i dont recommend doin it to your lot before ya try it out. I myself dont care for it. i think it makes the bud smell and taste crappy, but it is smooth. i say let your girls cure the long way. all good things take time :hippy:
yep yep yep^ u kno waz up bro! :rastasmoke:Quote:
Originally Posted by savagepossum
I have an interesting (and comical) proposition...
After water-curing a bud, has anyone tried feeding the resulting water to a living plant? I figured I'd try this... A sort of "cannibalism" feeding for cannabis (hey, they do it with beef lol)... I've no means of checking the properties of the resulting liquid, so I just plan on trying a bit on a few plants to see if there's any difference at all.
If someone out there can save me the time and rule out my idea, big thanks. Otherwise, if someone's ever tried this or analyzed the resulting liquid from water curing, I'd like to hear from you!
PS: The only reason why I hold onto this idea is because, if this product were efficient, no fertilizer maker could produce it given it's cannabis-based! So even if it is effective, it can't be on the market. Why not try.
I'm trying this method right now. So in 5 or so day I'll be back with a smoke report.