i know there are alot of places in the south that are racist,and that is sad.but its life.racism exists everywhere.
as for your jesse jackson comments i vomit.talk about a scum bag.i dont even use the word that describes him.
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i know there are alot of places in the south that are racist,and that is sad.but its life.racism exists everywhere.
as for your jesse jackson comments i vomit.talk about a scum bag.i dont even use the word that describes him.
Amsterdam, what exactly do you mean by a "liberal policy...?"
Do all liberals have some ESP link that decides on something they're all going to believe in?
There is only one similiarity between all liberals, and that is a willingness to consider new ideas. No "policies."
if you dont know what a liberal policy is dont answer the question.
Ok, let me clarify my last post. Obviously the miniscule amount of subtlety I used slipped past you.
There is NO SUCH THING as a "Liberal Policy." It is like saying "White Policy" or "Brown haired Policy." Liberals do not all communicate with each other to develop ideas and policies.
then what is moveon.org?
what is the DNC?its a group of radical 60's politicians who get together to discuss liberal ideas.
now the question.has there EVER been any well used liberal ideas in foreign policy?
Moveon.org is a website...
Just because they are liberals, it doesn't mean that they apply to all liberals.
How about the current referendum in the Netherlands to decide whether they will accept the European constitution?
As for liberal policies...no matter how much info I give you, it seems to go over your head...so lets just look at your name....Amsterdam...it is liberal policy that has legalized weed and euthanasia in that country....you are so conservative in the way you post...I wonder why did you choose the name amsterdam? It does not suit you at all...
Oh and have a nice trip...don't forget those cuban cigars now... :)
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because i lived in amsterdam for two years with my fathers family.thats why?im sorry it isnt to your standards.but thats to bad.
like i said no one can name a single liberal policy the UNITED STATES has used that have proven positive for the people here or anywhere.(and the murder of 30 million unborn whatever you want to call them dosent count,any way you look at abortion,its disgusting)
So it's the United States now is it? You don't like the way people have told you liberal policies from other countries?
What about invading Iraq? That's making changes, so it can be seen as liberal.
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Abslutely ill-founded sound byte type response there Amsterdam. Dont get me started on the big 'A' debate again, but get your facts straight, and quit spouting utter shit like that.
I don't see how you can count aborting a zygote that's been around for 2 days as murder.
dosent take away from the truth.look,im pro-choice,but abortion is a brutal practice..
call a fetus whatever helps your mind justify.
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Sounds like you are familiar with the procedures in question.
What part EXACTLY is it you are referencing?
the entire practice of abortion,its disgusting.even a pro choice person has to admit abortion is barbaric.
So you dont know whats involved then? Sorry, but you just avoided answering a closed question.
it isnt a complicated topic.
Wrong.
Are you a midwife Amsterdam?
Do you work in a clinic?
Are you aware of the 8 possible prcedures that can be used in termination?
Do you know how non-invasive / invasive they are?
What I'm trying to get you to explain is the part that is a 'brutal practise'. Emotive shit like that is what makes this debate so problematic.
While I applaud you for being pro-choice, and will agree that the realit of it is not pleasant, 'brutal practise' is an unfounded misnomer, and shows the level of ignorance prevailant about this topic. Ignoreance only furtherd by failing to answer closed questions.
i think this post has been here for the 2 weeks!
im sorry i didnt use the exact words you libs prefer,but for the record,nobody could think of a single policy,law,foreign or domestic,that has proven positive in any way.none,zippo,nada.lol.
this post is done.
Expertly dodged again. Why dont you ever come into the chat room?
NAME ONE??
boy,i really thought all you people who seem to believe you are smarter than everyone else because you live in a different area would be able to come up with at least one.maybe make one up.i think the only one who did was blue cat,and she was talking about a DIFFERENT COUNTRY.always good for a laugh.work with us now,or for us later.
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wish?look around you sometime.
So killing a 2 day old zygote is murder? What about eggs and sperm? Should every one of them be used? At 2 days, there is nothing even close to a human there. Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with abortion in many circumstances, but it's not clear cut.
And "zygote" isn't a foetus, it is the first cell or cells that have not become specialised. A foetus is when it starts to became human shaped.
i understand what you mean and i undrestand your view.i doubt we disagree on much.
no matter when it happens(2 days or 3 months) it is a sad thing.thats all i mean.
i choose not to think about anything after 6 months.i dont think the govt should ever tell a women she cant have an abortion,but how a person could have an abortion after 6 months is beyond me.if she can live with that than fine.but i couldnt.just thinking about it turns my stomach.
have you ever watched a partial birth abortion on video and seen what it is and how they preform them?you can watch it on the ultra sound machine.i bet you have never seen anything like that.the baby actually tries to get away.i will never forget it.
the doctors who perform partial birth abortions have to be truly fucked in the head.
i cant even begin to imagine.
I can't say I know enough about it, but some of the methods of abortion used aren't very nice. As for abortion after 6 months, I completely disagree with that, but as far as I know it's not allowed. Maybe under extreme circumstances it might be allowed, but it certainly isn't allowed most of the time here anyway.
But if someone gets pregnant by accident and finds out 2 day later, I don't have a problem with abortion in those circumstances.
They are. I've met a few. Not relegious people on the wholeQuote:
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I do, every day, and the worlds so unlike the way you describe I can only conclude that you are either asleep, mad, or just misguided.
Grip, buddy. Get one.
The same goes for a few jobs actually. Like working in a slaughterhouse.Quote:
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It's hard to tell if they get the job because they're fucked in the head, or they're fucked in the head because they've got the job.
The worst ones are the ones that have a horrible job, but are still completely sane. That just sounds like an evil person to me.
I can think of several. Welfare, rehabilitation-based drug policies, gay rights, racial equality measures, and free health care have all been left wing based policies.
Liberals aren't perfect, but keep your own opinions and I'll keep mine.
ok Amster you have been given countless examples of changes that came about as a result of liberal policy but you continue to ignore it. the right for you to get a job and not be desciminated against based on your sex,race or color was brought about by liberal policy, the disabilities act was liberal policy, the fact that you have a minimum wage or that you get paid overtime for working over 40 hours a week is liberal policy, which btw, YOUR conservative party is trying to do away.
I am beginning to think your brain lacks the capacity to UNDERSTAND liberal policy.
As for abortion...again you are wrong not ALL liberals are for abortion...I am a liberal..I think both the Pro choicers and Pro lifers are dumb asses. Neither side will give an inch. THe pro-choicers don't want ANY laws when it comes to abortion which is stupid becuase we spend thousands keeping a premmie baby weighing less than a pound alive but ELECT to kill a baby of the same size...Abortion should not be used as birth control and my tax dollar should not be used to pay for it. There should be laws to regulate abortion and it should be regulated according to scientific advances. If a baby is viable outside the womb at 30 weeks gestation then that should be the cut off. If ever we advance to the point we can bring a baby to full term inside a petri dish then make it illegal.
As for the pro lifers...they will never compromise...they refuse to allow legislation to allow rape victims to be OFFERED the day after pill in the ER. Women should have access to this pill should they have unprotected sex. It would prevent of 2 and 3rd trimester abortions as well if it were easy to get. As easy as viagra is for men!
Pro-lifers are equally as stupid when it comes to frozen embros...there are 400,000 of them. they will only keep for so long...are there 400,000 parents lined up to adopt them?....where will they go if not to science? THE TRASH..it is ok to throw them away but not use them to cure disease?
Science should dictate law not either of these groups and thats from the mouth of a LIBERAL. oh and another liberal policy: to provide sex education and pregnancy prevention to schools- the conservative policy? Abstinence...LMAO oh thats gonna work...
Liberal policy: to provide birth control to 3rd world countries to prevent population overgrowth, starvation and limit the spread of AIDS. Conservative policy? Let them die.
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i want to program my own republican! :D
That's too complex Euphoric, you give them that much circuitry and they'll begin to think for themselves! Just get a shitty chip, fry it, then wave flags and sing the star spangled banner a lot, then you'll have yourself a Republican.
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Don't forget to thump your bible :)
The Dems did that! Great!!! Such a treat to be a white male these days thanks to that one. Had a job recruiter in a plant in town here say "Sorry, white male no vet status...no job!" Hell, big deal...after all my father worked there for 30 years and my grandfather 25 years of service before and during that. But I'm not colored nor do I have tits or a military record. GOOOOOD reasons to keep me out of a job that runs back with 55 years of family history! :mad:Quote:
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So you're actually saying that no discrimination towards job applicants is a bad thing?Quote:
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I hope you mean you're against positive discrimination (where people are given jobs because they belong to a minority, not because they are best for the job.) Vveryone that works in MacDonalds in London seems to be black and foreign... that kind of thing irritates me, but I don't see how a lack of discrimination is bad.