happys grow,

hey happy iv bin reading from bigining till now i hope your ok now i was jest wondoring if you culd help me
i had 18 plants growing prety dam good in till my moms cat got in the room some how. The cat tore the place apart there was nothing left of my plants exept peces of it and dirt every where. So my friend gave my ak47 seeds and told my to germinat them i have never germinated any seeds befoe iv read about germinating seeds but how long does the root half to be to put it in the soil and do i keep it in a dark area still and do i cover it with anything. how much should i give it water and how deep should i put the seed in after its time to put it in the soil. :confused:

hope you get better soon
pece. :D

Hey guys, everybody gets a little put off if some wanker tells them how to handle there own grow so i will be carefull not to piss any veterans off!. From experience i dont reccomend spraying your plants or folliage feeding in high temp chambers as the water acts like a magnifying glass and toast your leaves. Not a problem if you have well regulated chambers but if you are pushing the limit on temps (as most people do) i would avoid it. Its obviously not an issue under fluro's. keep up the good work people!

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Hey guys, everybody gets a little put off if some wanker tells them how to handle there own grow so i will be carefull not to piss any veterans off!. From experience i dont reccomend spraying your plants or folliage feeding in high temp chambers as the water acts like a magnifying glass and toast your leaves. Not a problem if you have well regulated chambers but if you are pushing the limit on temps (as most people do) i would avoid it. Its obviously not an issue under fluro's. keep up the good work people!

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Good advice BUT: (lol)

That's why you use foggers or misters and not sprinklers or hand sprayers. The water droplets are so small you do not get the magnifying glass affect you are talking about. The mist is messured in microns and puts out 7-30 microns VMD.

whoa, we're on a droplet level now

hiiiiiiiiii happy,

this grow guide is going pretty damn well. but i think there's a way to condense it, and just get the facts and methodology in...as this is an open forum where everyone can speak and conversate, your forum has been enriched with everyone's questions and comments, and it has added to the information you have provided...so this is what i propose: at some point when your grow is complete or approaching complete, all this valuable information should be condensed into a purely informative manual, which excludes opinions and conversation and bring together all the information which can be found here. this format will be a document with just the methodology and facts that have been posted here...and i'll work on this myself to get a good, new grow manual going, using the exact words posted here, and condensed, whaddaya think? would people really read this condensed version, or do you think the casual conversation helps? i know you were originally working at the purpose of creating a grow manual, which is mostly a technical document, so what do you think about this? i'm good with composition and writing, so i could put the ideas together well without distorting or changing anything, i would just like to see it all put together in a logical flow of directions for a new grower

hello every one, thanks for your comments, yeah i think i might have saved my plants, they look like they gonna put some heavy re-veg on, i got a lot of single leaflets infact most the plants are covered in them, strange realy i dont normaly see that untill i there nearly finished, mind you i guess there feeling kinda weired going from a regular 12/12 to the natraul sunlight hours here, in fact i am gonna try and get out in the garden in a moment i gotta show you thesse ....... thats it i took some pics, let me finish this quickley and i will be back in a mo..... peace ..... happy ....

i'm glad you managed to save them, it would be very sad otherwise....anyway, what's up? i am one week away to start my new grow.....i am planning to start 25 seeds this time....have spent around 1200 us dollars on equipment&strains this time hoping to get better results....mainly i'll be using an NFT system i bought and i'm thinking to add and a few pots to grow some plants into soil nearby the hydro system..... :)


NGOS:)

hello again, will be back in a mo, crappy batteries died whilst i was trying to down load the pics, batts on charge, will be back when there charged .. peace happy ....

hi newgrow, your grow looked nice last time mate, was there a prob, wow, it can cost a few bob mate ehhhh, i will be here in a min, just charging batts, then i can down load the pics, 25 seeds should sort you out, if your going for another round with twenty five seeds then you should with your setup do ok mate, i will be back in a little while............ peace ..... happy ...

hi all again, here are those pics i promised..... i managed to save ten plants, i have another couple of real sad looking buggers, aint got the heart to chop em up, so i have give em a helping hand growing them on top of a compost heap, if they pick up then i will pot em up, i was realy gutted when they went hermie on me, it took a lot of constant attension to get them back, every 2/3 hours plucking off any male gender seems to have done it, aint seen to many male ball bags hanging on em for the last two days, there is still a little hermie in em, but nothing bad, you can see clearly the mass of single leaflets, i do get a lot of single leaflets on the top of my plants but this is normaly around finishing time, i am hoping this is just becourse of the light cycle confusion, they are still trying to produce female flower, the bud that they had grown indoors is still there, all the male gender apeared at different nodes, so it was quite easy to spot and remove, i have now got to wait till they finish around end of sept, they have got to finish then realy as our weather gets too unpredictable any time latter, i have a green house and as you can see i will keep some in there, i have to keep all windows and doors open becourse of the heat, i will get probs with insects i know, but i should be able to conrol some of it with stick bug tape, i also have a totaly organic spray i can use if things get bad, the worst probs i will get will be caterpillers, man they love this stuff, they fly in as butterflies and some how end jup as caterpillers in the bud, its very difficult to see, i only normaly find them after they have hached out and started to munch there way through my best buds, i will pay perticular intrest in looking for these little buggers as i know only to well the damage they can course. sorry for not replying personly to all of you, i have reasonatly smoked a big fatty and its nocked me on my arse again, i will get back when i come down a little ....... peace ....... happy ......

they are looking good man.....i can't wait to see them filled with buds, i wonder how they will look like, they are like bushes , i see green everywhere :)

thanks newgrower,
yeah they dont look bad concidering what they were like a week or so ago, i am hoping that they dont go hermie again. its funny how the same plant growing outdoors can look a completely different plant, as long as they respond well before our winter weather sets in they should give me somthing, i have saved white widow f1 (my strain)
and widow/braindamage, and some chronic, i lost everything else, even my best males, so no seeds for me this grow, i still have enough seed to keep the genre going seed i have ten plants out side that look like there gonna be ok, i cant grow nothing in doors at the moment as i cant get upstairs to tend to them, so no point me sowing any just yet. i look forword to seeing your next grow mate, ... you sounded a little dissapointed in your last grow, what was up, i did not see the end of your grow....
............. peace .................. happy ...................

You said no seeds huh? If your plants go through enough stress i heard they tend to do selfing. Thats when a female produces pollen and therefore produces seeds i think? What do you think?

no man, on the contrary, i am more than satisfied with the result, only one thing though....i did sale and smoked almost all of it to my friends....i made well over a pound of bud, around 20-22 oz in total....this paid all the bills, seeds,lights etc plus some more money which i invested almost all of it into the equipment and strains for this grow plus i've been smoking as much as i felt like almost everyday for 3 months now....i am dissapointed only because i've got left six joints and i will need to buy a couple of oz as i do not expect more bud before the end of October.....shit,sounds too long.....otherwise i'm fine :)

hi dailtone/newgrower
yeah dialtone, thats when they go hermie, thats just what you dont want, seeds from a hermie plant will produce a higher ratio of hermie babys, my seeds have to be pure, its taken me a long time to grow the pedigree into my plants, i would rather throw away hermie seeds, the more refined a plant is the more subseptable it becomes to changes in its inviroment thats why my plants went hermie, i just had no choice but to put them outside halfway through a indoor grow, i have plenty of pedigree first class seeds, i just cant get to look after them for a while, i shall plant them when i can........but hey thanks for the infomation, ....

hi newgrower, it will take time to get your setup producing exactly what you want, although it sounds like you have got it about right and doing ok, from my ten plants i will get enough weed to keep me going untill about 1/2 months after i have harvested my next grow, i like to have that much as i like to realy let em stand and mature for about two months to cure and sweeten up a little, strong indicas can be a little harsh on the lungs and taste rather green without proper curing. i dont sell my weed, i have been working on increasing its medicle caperbillities, and purifiying its genre for some years now,
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At what stage did you see the male balls?
Also the catapillars end up there cause the butterflies drop there eggs in the bud and let it hatch there.
Catapillars turn into butterflies not the other way around.

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hi all again, here are those pics i promised..... i managed to save ten plants, i have another couple of real sad looking buggers, aint got the heart to chop em up, so i have give em a helping hand growing them on top of a compost heap, if they pick up then i will pot em up, i was realy gutted when they went hermie on me, it took a lot of constant attension to get them back, every 2/3 hours plucking off any male gender seems to have done it, aint seen to many male ball bags hanging on em for the last two days, there is still a little hermie in em, but nothing bad, you can see clearly the mass of single leaflets, i do get a lot of single leaflets on the top of my plants but this is normaly around finishing time, i am hoping this is just becourse of the light cycle confusion, they are still trying to produce female flower, the bud that they had grown indoors is still there, all the male gender apeared at different nodes, so it was quite easy to spot and remove, i have now got to wait till they finish around end of sept, they have got to finish then realy as our weather gets too unpredictable any time latter, i have a green house and as you can see i will keep some in there, i have to keep all windows and doors open becourse of the heat, i will get probs with insects i know, but i should be able to conrol some of it with stick bug tape, i also have a totaly organic spray i can use if things get bad, the worst probs i will get will be caterpillers, man they love this stuff, they fly in as butterflies and some how end jup as caterpillers in the bud, its very difficult to see, i only normaly find them after they have hached out and started to munch there way through my best buds, i will pay perticular intrest in looking for these little buggers as i know only to well the damage they can course. sorry for not replying personly to all of you, i have reasonatly smoked a big fatty and its nocked me on my arse again, i will get back when i come down a little ....... peace ....... happy ......

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Howdy Happy,

Thanx for the pics ! Those are unusal looking leaves,but heck,,they're all healthy as can be !

I hope that your health is improving daily,your words are an inspiration to the rest of us and are greatly appreciated ! Thanx for sharing your experiences with us..I know that I have learned a few new things and I look forward to learnin more .

Have a good one !

hello torog, hi j dog

the male gender started to apear soon after i went into hospital, the light cycle was left to its own, and they recieved about 1, weeks constant light nobody could turn em off, i then got a mate to stick them in the garden, i knew they could not be left under artifcial lighting, so at least if they were in the garden they could get a natrual light cycle, he told me about how they had all gone hermie, since then they have been very heaverly pruned and been plucked of there balls as they apear, they are deffinatly not showing as much male gender, and the female pistels have slowed down, they have vegged lovely, better than i thought they would,

hi torrog mate, hows things, hope all is well, yes i feel a little better now, proberly becourse i have toped myself up with my medicine, i can stand a little longer now the inflamation has gone down a little, but yeah thanks doing much better, i feel much better now that i can smoke a jay or two.
i will always help where i can mate, there are some on here far more knowledgable than me, i prefure to grow in soil, i have tried other methods, but i guess i am just an old fashioned gardener, i am all for mod cons and things that make our lifes a little easier but ya cant beat mixing up ya dirt and planting them seedlings then sitting patiently waiting for them pop up , lol, i hope to carry on where i left off realy i will take some better pics tommorow if the weather is better, just now its chucking it down,
if i can help torrog then i will mate no probs,
peace ........... happy .......

hi all.
sorry kevin and jadiouse some how i seem to have missed and not answered your questions, firstley

kevin, .... yes cats can be a pain in the arse around plants, i think they are atracted to its aroma, i know they like catnip that drives em wild, so it is poss that the scent of weed does the same thing, i had the prob of my cat shiting in one of my pots in the grow room, i just rubbed his nose in it big time, and kicked him up the arse and now he wont go nere them, that left me with the horrible job of clearing up the cat crap, i got rid of it all and replaced the spilt dirt with fresh and the plant seem to not realy be affected......

jadeous,.... sure mate, that sounds like a cool idea, if ya wanna, i am happy with it, you do what ya like mate no probs, i aint a good writer or speller so it would be best if somebody did it that can spell hahaha,.....

gonna take pics today as it looks like it aint gonna rain,
........... peace ............ happy ................

cool...i'll wait until your grow is done though and you've pretty much finished this thread...also I might wait until I can find some adderall or percocets because I'll get it all done in one sitting if I take some first...probably just gonna copy/paste ... the plants look great by the way! looking forward to seeing the buds!

peace

hi jadeius,
yeah cant wait myself, when i look at these plants now its hard to believe they were vitualy knackered just a little while ago, i am hoping there gonna come good for me, they have gone extra bushy after they recived a masive hair cut, so its gonna be very interesting, i have taken some more pics, but to be honest there is very little change other than getting more bushy over the last few days, so maybe i wont post em just yet, they are stinking again, the greenhouse reeks, but hey, i think it smells lovely hahaha, ......... take care .................. peace ...........happy...........

Hey happy i jest germinated 10 AK-47 seed and put them in pots in my room. I keep my room loked up so the fucking cat dosent come in the room.
hope your plants have a good harvest....
peace :D

hi guys
my bro just got back from amasterdam, he brought me back some jack herrier seeds, and some cali mist, i have read these up in my books, has anyone on here had any personal experiance with these, i would like some feed back on these before i get my lights going again, i was thinking of using these for my next grow, and they could be my christmas smokes, i just would like to know a little more about the plants i will be growing them in soil in large pots under heavy lighting, in the usual way i grow them.

question .... have they any traits that there known for, ie . are they subseptable to desease,
and have they any medicle qualities, these seeds cost a fortune and i want to give them there best chances,
i have only 10 jack herrier and 15 cali mist seeds as far as i know neither are feminised, so i also hope to cross them and replicate some seeds to work with.
many thanks ......... peace ..................... happy .................

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hi guys
my bro just got back from amasterdam, he brought me back some jack herrier seeds, and some cali mist, i have read these up in my books, has anyone on here had any personal experiance with these, i would like some feed back on these before i get my lights going again, i was thinking of using these for my next grow, and they could be my christmas smokes, i just would like to know a little more about the plants i will be growing them in soil in large pots under heavy lighting, in the usual way i grow them.

question .... have they any traits that there known for, ie . are they subseptable to desease,
and have they any medicle qualities, these seeds cost a fortune and i want to give them there best chances,
i have only 10 jack herrier and 15 cali mist seeds as far as i know neither are feminised, so i also hope to cross them and replicate some seeds to work with.
many thanks ......... peace ..................... happy .................

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Howdy Happy,

I hope that you are doing well !:)

I wish that I could help ya with personal experience,but I have none in regards to those 2 strains. However,if you go to the Strain Guide at Overgrow.com,you can find numerous grow reports on both strains,I took a look there yesterday,and there were gobs of reports..I hope it helps ya !

Have a good one !

hello torog mate, its good to here from you again, thanks for the info mate i will check it out as soon as i have finished here, hows things your end, ok i hope, mine have realy gone into re-veg there bushing heavily, and looking quite nice, it looks like i have stoped the hermie in them,.... phew i was getting worried there, i lost the two weaklings that i planted on the compost heep i kinda expected that they were pewny and weak so i aint realy bothered, these new seeds i have are known quality seeds so with a little bit of luck l will inject a bit of this into my older stock, that should give me the change i have been looking for.

i want to join and become a payed member on here, do you know what benifits there are if i join up. .......... peace ................ happy .............

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hello torog mate, its good to here from you again, thanks for the info mate i will check it out as soon as i have finished here, hows things your end, ok i hope, mine have realy gone into re-veg there bushing heavily, and looking quite nice, it looks like i have stoped the hermie in them,.... phew i was getting worried there, i lost the two weaklings that i planted on the compost heep i kinda expected that they were pewny and weak so i aint realy bothered, these new seeds i have are known quality seeds so with a little bit of luck l will inject a bit of this into my older stock, that should give me the change i have been looking for.

i want to join and become a payed member on here, do you know what benifits there are if i join up. .......... peace ................ happy .............

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Howdy Happy,

I'm glad to hear that yer okay ! Things are okay here,just wish that the summer temps would hurry up and give way to the Fall temps,so that I can git some beans going again..boy howdy ! Lookin forward to that !

I'm glad that you were able to save yer plants..I bet that in the end,you'll git some great smoke off of them. I'm also hoping that yer new beans will make yer harvest,even more spiffy ! From what I read at overgrow,I think that they will do just that.

As for being a paid member here,the primary benefit is that you will be able to pm(private message) other members,also you will have the member forums access,which will further enhance your ability to contact other members. Most paid members are usually adults with maturity and experience,and will yield better info and help. We would love to have someone as nice and helpful as you,as a paid member !

Have a good one !

hello torog mate,
thanks for the info, its gonna prove very usefull, i just dont want to get it wrong, i have never paid so much for seeds but i told him to get the j/h seeds, the cali mist was his choice, but by the sounds of it its gonna be great, i dont want to halt my work on the strains i have developed i just want to inject a little difference into them, i aint realy bothered about making them stronger as there a little too strong now.
its realy good to be getting about a bit again mate. being able to smoke my own medicine is realy helping. i am sure your beans are come up trumps for ya mate. have you long to wait before it cools a enough. those northern light crosses love a long hot summer, there a little slow and need a lot of space, but well worth the wait i cant wait to see how they all respond to your climate.
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question for anybody in the know, ...... if you look back at the last pics i posted on here you will notice that the plants are made up of mainly single leaflets, i have put this down to the trauma they have been through and the heavy pruning they recieved. since the last photos they have increased in size and bushyness by about double. they look incredibly healthy but have not yet reverted back to growing normal leaves, they are still growing single leaflets, i normaly see single leaflets near the top of my plants towards the end around harvest time. does anyone know if this is likely to change before end of sept which is when i expect to harvest, they are deffinatly vegging wonderfully and there growth rate is very fast,.... and wow they stink propper big time. i was just getting a little concerned that there not reverting back yet, i will post some up to date pics tommorow to show just what i mean.
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[QUOTE=Torog],

God Bless Those Who Choose To Protect Our Freedom !

" ...Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists. From this day forward, any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile regime. "

Support Our Troops ! http://www.anysoldier.com/index.cfm QUOTE]

Well I've seen many dodgy blags...buts thats the most blatent ever!

I guess you wont be getting busted Torog mate!

http://www.plowsharesactions.org/webpages/weba.htm

[QUOTE=King Amdo]

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God Bless Those Who Choose To Protect Our Freedom !

" ...Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists. From this day forward, any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile regime. "

Support Our Troops ! http://www.anysoldier.com/index.cfm QUOTE]

Well I've seen many dodgy blags...buts thats the most blatent ever!

I guess you wont be getting busted Torog mate!

http://www.plowsharesactions.org/webpages/weba.htm

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Howdy King Amdo,

Excuse my ignorance,but what is yer point ? What's a 'dodgy blag' ?

As for gittin busted..I hope yer right-that I don't git busted !

Have a good one ....

hello mates
here is the latest on my grow, i dont realy know how its happened but these girls have come back from almost getting the chop just a little while ago, i persevered and tended them and there now better,
they totaly love the outside climate, they have bushed out nicely, i have some on my patio and some in a greenhouse, the ones in a greenhouse are much taller, yet just as bushy so maybe they like the gentler evening temps in there, i will have to move them as there now touching the roof, and if i leave them there they will rot and start to mould, and i deff dont want that,
they also seem to be showing far less single leaflets than they did. and they absolutely stink, but there is not a lot i can do about that other than hope nobody knows what the smell is... but on the whole i am pleased the way they look,........ tell me what ya think...........
.............. peace....... happy ...............

Howdy happy,

Your 'girls' are looking mighty good ! They seem to be doing just fine and it's obvious that you have a 'green' thumb !

I hope you have some help moving the ones from the greenhouse,looks like it might be somewhat difficult..cuz they're so big ! Have you thought of tieing them over ? Another question on my mind,is what do you think the outcome would be,of planting only 2 seeds in a grow..would Nature make one male and one female ?

I wish that I could tell you the reason that I'm asking you the above question,but we'd both need encyrpted mail accounts..as regular email between our 2 countries is always read by 'them'.

Have a good one !

hello torog mate,
thanks for your message, yeah i will have to get help to move them, i dont want to tie them as there very bushy now, i was thinking of putting them in a sunny spot and just letting them go for it, that would be best i think,
if you plant two seeds you might get a boy and a girl, but then you could get 2 boys or 2 girls, non feminised seeds should normaly give ya about a 50/50 boy/girl but that only becomes obvious when ya plant a bunch of them, say 15/20 but even then you could get luckey or unluckey eitherway, i have planted 50 seeds in the past and got 15 girls mmmmm that was sad, on the other hand i once planted 22 and got 18 girls, but hey boys arnt such a bad thing, without them there would be no seeds, and 50% of the genetic propertys in a boy make up the female plant i dont mind the boys, i just keep the very best ones for back crossing to keep my strain going,
i wish i were more computer literate, please excuse my stupidness but whats encripted email, i have heard of it, any idea where i can get one,..... i would also like to chat more freely. ............ peace mate. ............... happy ............

nice pix there chappie, I like all that secondary growth you got going on there! Keep it up!

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hello torog mate,
thanks for your message, yeah i will have to get help to move them, i dont want to tie them as there very bushy now, i was thinking of putting them in a sunny spot and just letting them go for it, that would be best i think,
if you plant two seeds you might get a boy and a girl, but then you could get 2 boys or 2 girls, non feminised seeds should normaly give ya about a 50/50 boy/girl but that only becomes obvious when ya plant a bunch of them, say 15/20 but even then you could get luckey or unluckey eitherway, i have planted 50 seeds in the past and got 15 girls mmmmm that was sad, on the other hand i once planted 22 and got 18 girls, but hey boys arnt such a bad thing, without them there would be no seeds, and 50% of the genetic propertys in a boy make up the female plant i dont mind the boys, i just keep the very best ones for back crossing to keep my strain going,
i wish i were more computer literate, please excuse my stupidness but whats encripted email, i have heard of it, any idea where i can get one,..... i would also like to chat more freely. ............ peace mate. ............... happy ............

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Howdy happy,

Thanx for the info..I kinda figured that you'd say it's like a roll of the dice,when it comes to non-feminized seeds. But I was curious about yer personal experience,I usually figure on a 50/50 mix of males and females,just wondered if it held true for only a couple of seeds and like you say,it's important to replenshish the seed stock,so I'd actually be hoping for a male and female,in this instance.

You can git an encyrpted email account at hushmail.com,or at safemail.net,I ain't sure which is best,but I reckon that we'd have to have accounts at the same site in order to converse privately. Encryption means taking the message and turning it into an unreadable mess of gibberish,characters or numbers,that can only be read with a key to decode it. It drives the goverment guys nuts and they have been trying to git ahold of the encryption keys,for some time now. There's alot that I need to talk to ya about,but it needs to be encrypted,because both of our goverments are looking at all un-encrypted coms between our countries and others.

Have a good one !

hiya torog mate,
i have now got a hushmail account, would you like the addy sent to your regular email or somewhere else, i hope this helps ........ peace ......... happy .............

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hiya torog mate,
i have now got a hushmail account, would you like the addy sent to your regular email or somewhere else, i hope this helps ........ peace ......... happy .............

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Howdy happy,

Yup..you can send the addy to me and now I need to git an account again..l let my old one expire,if you don't log in once every 2 weeks,it expires..dang it..lol. Hope to be talkin at ya soon !

Have a good one !

hello torog mate
i sent it to ya mate, i just wish i was more knowledgable with these bloody computers mate, i gave my self a headache trying to work it out hahaha,
............ peace happy .....................

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hello torog mate
i sent it to ya mate, i just wish i was more knowledgable with these bloody computers mate, i gave my self a headache trying to work it out hahaha,
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Howdy happy,

I know what ya mean,man..lol..I got yer email..now I need to go and set me up an account..so I should have an email for you soon.

Have a good one !

hi guys
just a little update on my grow, they are stinking bad, so bad i can smell it as i open my back door. the plants are about 40ft+ from my house, i have now moved most of them from the greenhouse as they were to big and touching the roof and i did not want them to go mouldy, i hope my neighbours can tolerate it as they must be smelling them as well lol, they have also started to show female gender again with no sign of hermie so thats cool, i can take some more pics but i dont think its poss to see there jender in a 1 meg pic and thats all i am allowed to post on here, but i will if anybody wants to have a look..... peace happy .....................

:D hey man. i just wanted to say thanks. i havelearned alot from your grow so far and i will use it next year for sure. keep up the good work. peace :D