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For most of my life I went to a Christain Church, up untill the priest asked me to put more money in the collection tray. Then I became a Baptist, I was baptized here and didn't think much of it. Most of my life was shitty and I was abused as a child and I was always told by the Church that if I asked for help I would get it, every night I prayed and I belived I would get what I asked for from the ALMIGHTY GOD. I never asked for things I wanted only things I needed such as to stop the abuse....it never happened. At the age of 13 I became an athiest and started reading. I tend to lean more toward the Wiccan religion as there is no god and there is no devil, no heaven and no hell. I believe that Earth is our creator along with the elements. "The Devil" is not the devil, He is Mulengro and he exists in everyone of us. The Church tells us he is The Devil and should be suppressed and ignored. Quote from the book "Witchcraft Theory and Practice" "Within Mulengro resides our ability to protect as well as to procreate and perpetuate, our sense of union with our planet and with those things on our planet that have not yet been subdued, tamed or destroyed, and our ability to work sympathetic magic." Mulengro has 7 faces and they are referred to The Seven Deadly Sins. Well I that is my opinion. Peace and Love

Poem from the book "The Feast of Flesh & Spirit" by Ly de Angeles

Mulengro

I know your Name now, you Liar!
You, the killing machine of the soul!
I'll tell!
I'll tell!
If they can hear me they will know your Name also!
Too late! You are known: "Divide and Conquer"!
YOU ARE THE LIE THAT CLOSES OFF THE GATE!!
Your Faces, they are 7!
Your essences, they are 7!
Your Powers, thay are 7!
And together they are you! Mulengro!


You are Greed!
You are Envy!
You are Guilt!
You are Deceit!
You are Denial!
You are Expectation!!
You are Assumption!!

Peace

JSTA, how can faith bring you happiness? its only an answer to an impossible question (is there a god). i dont get it, please explain

I mean to say, you look at all the Christians/Jews/Mormons, they all seem happy to me. I'm talking about the HARDCORE ones. In my opinion though, they're being brainwashed. That's where it goes back to, "do you want happiness, or do you want the truth". I don't know if you've ever read Brave New World, but if you did, it'd be easier to make more sense out of what I was sayin. For me, growing up Christian, believing in God, and then all of a sudden realizing he's just nto there can be kind of depressing. It was hard for me to take at first. But I honestly believe that that's the truth. Did that help at all? lol

yea. i can understand people find a meaning in life by beleiving in a god. the question they dont ask to theirselves tho is: whats the purpose of a god? lol. all this is nonsense

[QUOTE]I beleive that everything happens for a reason theres NO such thing as Fate..[NoosaHeads/QUOTE]

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I beleive that everything happens for a reason theres NO such thing as Fate..

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isnt that sentence a paradox? if you belive that everything happens for a reason isnt that the same thing as beliving in fate?

Acctually Fate and Destiny are two seperate concepts, Fate is a place you will end up living or a career you have. Destiny is "everything happens for a reason".

are you sure its not the other way around? youre probably right though

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JSTA, how can faith bring you happiness? its only an answer to an impossible question (is there a god). i dont get it, please explain

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yea. i can understand people find a meaning in life by beleiving in a god. the question they dont ask to theirselves tho is: whats the purpose of a god? lol. all this is nonsense

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alright man, listen.

not everyone that believes in god is an unquestioning bible-thumping christian that goes to church three days a week. don't ask about our beliefs if all you're going to do is tell everyone they don't understand anything and whine about humanity's imminent death.

not everyone places their beliefs on faith and hope. many actually have real reasons and experiences to account for their belief in god. for some who have caught a glimpse of infinity, god is as real as the computer you're typing at(those who have had a good shroom trip should know what i'm talking about...).

oh man im totally agreeing. i know people may beleive pretty hard in god and etc, and im not sayin at all that i have the truth etc. if u read what i wrote carefully, all what i said up there is that even if there were a god (and im pretty opened to this idea), well why would he be there?

i mean what would it change? really? ask you this question man. whats his own purpose? do u agree if the entire universe would explode right now that would make no difference? who would know it dissapeared?

and if god has its own purpose what is it? im opened to the idea there may be a superior force, but anyway this is too complicated for humans to understand. why would i lose my time trying to answer to this question? why would i lose my time praying for something im not even sure it exist? if theres a god what does he fuckin do to make this world better? nothing man.

humans invented religions=fact

obviously if we could prove theres no god, ppl would lose what they think as the meaning of life.

When i first started questioning god i asked the same question, but more often my question was what is our purpose? I used to think maybe this is his game, kinda like The Sims. If i am going to be born just to die, i mean come on, it doesn't make sense. Then the church says "well this life is a test for the next life". Well fuck if your going to judge me then do it all ready. why waste my time. Peace

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oh man im totally agreeing. i know people may beleive pretty hard in god and etc, and im not sayin at all that i have the truth etc. if u read what i wrote carefully, all what i said up there is that even if there were a god (and im pretty opened to this idea), well why would he be there?

i mean what would it change? really? ask you this question man. whats his own purpose? do u agree if the entire universe would explode right now that would make no difference? who would know it dissapeared?

and if god has its own purpose what is it? im opened to the idea there may be a superior force, but anyway this is too complicated for humans to understand. why would i lose my time trying to answer to this question? why would i lose my time praying for something im not even sure it exist? if theres a god what does he fuckin do to make this world better? nothing man.

humans invented religions=fact

obviously if we could prove theres no god, ppl would lose what they think as the meaning of life.

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i cant speak for others but... you misunderstand my image of god. its not like we have our world, and then god is up there away from us to make things better or worse. no. thats the big misunderstanding in modern christianity... that god is separate from the universe. god IS the universe. god is a part of everything, and everything is a part of god. we are the body of god. so what is god? thats what i wonder. are we all just tiny atoms and we make up a cell in a chunk of flesh of an unimaginable being we know as god? and if thats true, aren't we all a god, each with our own universe inside of us? (funny that atoms are structured so similarly to solar systems...).

that, my friend, is what infinity is. but i digress...

the metaphor that comes to mind right now is... god is not a guy sitting at a computer playing sim city, and if he leaves everything goes to chaos. god is more like the programming of the game. or maybe it's both the programming AND the guy. i don't know, im tired... metaphors are never perfect.

"(funny that atoms are structured so similarly to solar systems...)"

This isn't actually true. Scientists use the model of little 'balls' all orbiting around eachother, but in actual fact this model is only usded to describe what is actually happening in an easily understandable way. It is believed to be more likely that the components of an atom are more like 'strings' of energy.

well djaio thats what im saying since the beggining of this thread man. i said if theres a god he haves to be all. so we are obviously part of god if he does exist. but isnt there a funny paradoxe in that? if theres a god, and he must be all, how can there be an evil? evil would be in good? haha totally nonsense man ill just reapeat what im saying since years: god is too complicated to be undertood. so im not wasting my time thinkin does he exists or not and if yes where etc...

peace

^^^There ya go man. Donnie Darko style. Dont' waste your time asking the questions that you'll never find an answer to.