What is the availability of Meds in NM now?

Chance942 now come on If a producer is ONLY running 6 1000 watt lamps. they will not be around long. Now lets take a look at what it takes to grow medical MJ . First off you have to get approved by DOH not an easy thing to do. Then there is the renewal fees that are 10000 second year 20000 third year 30000 there after. Now that we are approved we have the costs that are involved with growing how DOH wants it organic. We'll need first a place to grow so check rent 2000-3000 a month now we have a place now we need to set up a way to grow so we'll need to do some building. Here is where you'll have to decide a few things so cost can range 3000-5000 and up now we have a place to grow our 150 plants. then we need to control the environment that they will grow in.
Oh shit the place did not come with refrigerated air so another 3000 to 10000 on the unit. Oh no more bad news the electrical panel is only 5000 amp so we'll have to come up with more cash 5000-7000. We'll need a little magic at this point to make our plants appear out of thin air .No no getting ahead of my self. We'll need a few lights at the min I think 64 thats hood, bulb and ballast's about 35000 then we'll need some fans to move that air 24 sounds good so lets say another 800. Ok looking good now we need some thing for our plants to grow in so we'll need some soil lets say another grand.I think I made my point so lets move on You so easily put down the producers but as you can see they do have to make a big investment in startup costs,labor and time.I too want my meds at the lowest cost possible But I dounderstandt that it costs quite a bit to grow. For the lucky ones that can grow there own and have a ppl all that I can say is grow your own.

As for growing your own it is not an easy thing to grow medical grade.If you have never grown it will take a lot of learning and work to get that first harvest. If that grow is indoors it will take a good investment to be able to grow that grade. So overall dammed if you do dammed if you don't.

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Originally Posted by chance942

Yo yo yo this program is not at all about helping anyone. It's all about the benjamins heard. "Legal producers" running 6 1000w hps indoor should be yielding 6lbs.There is plenty of fucking medicine. What laws really matter? Our pathetic "leaders??" lie cheat and fucking steal like no tomorrow. They care absolutely nothing about you or your reasons for smoking herb. Take your chemicals be a numb dumb ass sheep. Play along worker bee be free yeah to do what you're told. Fuck that. How does Blue Dream end up on sale in New fuckin Mexico at the same time the westcoast is bathing in it??? Come on think about this shit please. $40 an 1/8 plus tax is bullshit people. Be happy to have your smoke but don't be fooled into thinking there isn't enough to be selling o's for 220.

320x16=5120x6=30720+delivery=?

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what would be the size of those 6lbs plants be?If you are growing indoors there is no way that you are getting that without vertical lighting.

It is nothing new Alphonso. Rosenthal, 4x4 box, etc

2 months old a 7lb plant is 6' tall and 5' wide

[quote=chance942]It is nothing new Alphonso. Rosenthal, 4x4 box, etc

2 months old a 7lb plant is 6' tall and 5' wide[/QUOTE

Dam chance you are one hell of a grower if you can pull that off indoors.

What is the availability of Meds in NM now?

In Albuquerque this evening there are 23 varieties of medical cannabis from three different State licensed producers
1 Real Lemon - $49/8th High Desert Relief
2 Island Sweet Skunk - $45.50/8th High Desert Relief
3 Mystery - $10 gram SWOP
4 White Widow - $10 gram SWOP
5 Bubba Kush - $10 gram SWOP
6 BC Big Bud - $10 gram SWOP
7 Blue Widow - $12/gram Natural Rx
8 Hash Puck- $25 gram Minerva
9 Zozobra- $14 gram Minerva
10 Satori Sativa Blend- $14 gram Minerva
11 White Russin- $12 gram Minerva
12 Pineapple Express - $14 gram Natural Rx
13 Sour Chem - $14/gram Natural Rx
14 Master Kush - $18/gram Natural Rx
15 OG Kush - $18 gram Natural Rx
16 G13xHaze Ground Bud - $10 gram Minerva
17 Growers Delight - $11 gram Minerva
18 New Mexico Blue Sky - $13 gram Minerva
19 Las Cruces Pepper Boy - $15 gram Minerva
20 Tutti Frutti - $10 gram SWOP
21 Captain Z - $10 per gram SWOP
22 Lemon Sour Diesel - $10 per gram SWOP
23 Kush - $10 gram SWOP

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gee...$18 a gram?..those must have been some expensive seeds there.

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gee...$18 a gram?..those must have been some expensive seeds there.

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Must have been a light harvest. Need to cover the costs? Or it's just that good? If some one has tried it, let us know
If it was worth the price.

your choice is clear, either pay out the ass for medz that might work and you will have to wait for it too....OR invest a small amount and grow your own for pennies on the dollar !!!!
$18 a gram is stupid, you can pay cheaper prices off the street and I know get better stuff, at least here in Albuquerque...OG Kush organic grown $300 ounce Abq streets !!!!

just got newsletter from swop and they are selling one of there strains at $8.00 a gram. Now all we need is for the rest of the producers to jump on the band wagon. There are about 3800 patients in the program and it is growing. We have 25 producers at this time that can produce at a rate of 150 plants at any given time so supply should not be a problem. I know that swop was in the program almost from the beginning and also so realize that many of the new producers had to make some heavy investments and need to do some payback so the $8.00 a gram might be a little ahead of the rest. but kudos to swop on the pricing of that strain. Now all we need is to see if it is any good.

WOW thats a turn for the good on price, like he sais hope its good/worth the $8 a gram...what i think were missing here is QUALITY NOT QUANTITY !!
Its not hard to find bud here in NM weither it be shwag, mids, commercial from cali, or dank locally grown it needs to be top quality to qualify as medical quality !!!
And Ive seen it all, smoked just about anything local and out of 100 probably 5 were worth as shit or qualify as medical cannabis, so the choice is yours , GROW YOUR OWN or WAISTE YOUR MONEY !!!

In cruces it's pathetic! To see the growers grow grade b or even c grade, yet they call it grade a and charge the same! The grower here needs to pick up a high times mag or visit Cali to see what grade A is. I wont go back to them because of their unfair pricing for low bud quality. I'm on my first grow and my buds look better! They have their own monopoly it seems. Making an appointment a day ahead is rediculous and the environment you pick it up in makes me feel like I gotta cover my face up and run so I'm not seen. I'm really curious why the prices are so damn high. Supposedly the doh has nothing to do with pricing so the grower does? Then wtf? Why are they the same as black market? Care and compassion my ass! Give that compassion to the patients wallets! To me it shows lack of sympathy for their patients. I'm happy to have a medical cannabis program but the "monopoly" here in cruces is crap!

As a NorCal patient who moved to Northern New Mexico two months ago, I was hoping for much better buds here in Taos. It's such an amazing place otherwise.

There is no purple here, and many folks don't even know what it is.

Is it worth going through the effort to get a card in NM?

Seriously, please advise.

Best,
Charles

Hi Charles, the program here is new and trying new approaches to medicinal marijuana. The producing isnt on the same planet as California's. The meds are very rarely as good either BUT you can find good meds just not as often as Cali. My advice get a card so you're legally covered in nm and why not grow your own if you get a ppl? Overall be patient with nm, again it's worlds apart from cali

Thanks,

New Mexico is so amazing that I'm gonna to be patient.

For meds, I'm just used to going to harborside in oakland. So i've been spoiled. I'm not getting cbd counts at the park.

Thanks for your response and advice,
Charles

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In cruces it's pathetic! To see the growers grow grade b or even c grade, yet they call it grade a and charge the same! The grower here needs to pick up a high times mag or visit Cali to see what grade A is. I wont go back to them because of their unfair pricing for low bud quality. I'm on my first grow and my buds look better! They have their own monopoly it seems. Making an appointment a day ahead is rediculous and the environment you pick it up in makes me feel like I gotta cover my face up and run so I'm not seen. I'm really curious why the prices are so damn high. Supposedly the doh has nothing to do with pricing so the grower does? Then wtf? Why are they the same as black market? Care and compassion my ass! Give that compassion to the patients wallets! To me it shows lack of sympathy for their patients. I'm happy to have a medical cannabis program but the "monopoly" here in cruces is crap!

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I suppose I am replying to this guy's posts knowing he cannot spew more incorrect information and to correct his malicious information. For new patients that read this forum, please understand that ALL of the producers have more rules and regs to follow than the individual patients. Growing 150 plants costs MUCH more than growing 4-16 plants. Also, the LNPPs have huge fees to pay December 1st. So they must price their meds based on the costs per harvest, PLUS allocate that $20,000 fee coming up, and the per gram price in Las Cruces includes 7.5625% sales tax. So the per gram price is actually $13.95. I have received meds from Mother Earth many times. And although some strains are better than others, I have yet to see anything similar to Mexican Brick. (Which, btw, is only $50/ounce down here.)

I suppose, the best thing I can offer regarding Mother Earth, is to purchase 1 gram of each strain available and decide for yourself. And order as soon as the emails go out...don't wait or all the best buds will be gone.

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Making an appointment a day ahead is rediculous and the environment you pick it up in makes me feel like I gotta cover my face up and run so I'm not seen.

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I like the fact that I can have safe access to my meds in a safe environment. I understand ordering the day ahead is for safety reasons. They are not a 'dispensary' they are a producer. Their procedures are in place to create a safe environment for everyone involved. They only bring to the office the herb that is pre-ordered. It is too bad this guy is banned because I would ask why he feels the need to cover his face and run? Everyone in the office is nice to deal with and it is a nice location. This guy obviously doesn't understand the risks involved with this business and the fact that the Cruces producer is so close to Juarez. I wish him luck with growing his own meds, because knowing the people at Mother Earth...they will figure out who he is and he will be banned from future purchases.

All of the producers have the right to refuse service to any person at any time for any reason.

Such a rediculous response from a LNPP. I read his comments, though rudely phrased all he basically said was you, mother earth, has bud thats over priced at times, apparently not always grade a.The only strain he mentioned was Maui waui, and his comment was on its look only. I never read where he said it was all bad. That's horrible business practice in my view especially when dealing with product that does vary no matter how good quality control is. His description was harsh but it seems he felt slighted. Then again reading your comments it's easily seen you're here promoting your product/company. A stupid situation it seems that cost you a patient and he a provider. Well none of my business, just giving an outside view.

New meds are available on a regular basis in Las Cruces these days. Advise patients place their orders as soon as they receive their email. They currently have AK47, Headband, Pineapple Express and Humbolt.

Thought I would revisit this subject. This forum has been pretty quiet of late. Post your experience regarding supply. DOH needs to know if we need more producers. Are you getting meds when you need them?

Well for a time as the producers got better at growing quality meds it seemed there were enough meds but now it looks like we are back to where we were about a year ago.There is going to be shortages again. The program keeps growing but the plant limits are still the same.The producers are just about at there limit as to how much they can produce so something is going to have to be done.More producers OR more plant count.We as patients in the program have to contact DOH and let them know we can not get the meds that we need.It would be nice to be able to get what we want and not just what is available.

Imo there needs to be more producers. Were already two producers short of what we had last year plus all the new patients that have been enrolled. Idk how the doh doesnt think we need more producers. Just the fact alone that some people have to orderonly once a month from a select few producers just so they can have there medicine delivered to bfe. Not everyone can afford the trip to ruidoso or alb evry time they need medicine. Especially if they can only normally buy an 8th or a 1/4 at a time. Not too mention its hard as shit trying to get clones cause all the producers have to work around there plant count. Yeah a higher plant count would help for something like clones for a little while. But give them a higher plant count and soon enough they'll be at max limit again and asking for more. Now if they would licnse another twenty producers i think that would help keep the ball rolling smoothly for a while.more local mom and pop shops would help more for the patients needs. Like i said. In my opinion. But to answer your question. Still just as hard for me to get meds as it was two years ago. Unless i make that trip up north. And even they are usually sold out of everything exceptone or two strains.

Hey Grim. Where are you located? You mentioned driving to Albuquerque or Ruidoso. Have you tried Las Cruces? Also, R Greenleaf offers a delivery person to most all of the state and he will pickup from other producers if the patient gives permission. Their delivery charge is only $10...TOTAL! You can order from several producers (except Las Cruces) and he will pick up and bring it to your door. Check your list of producers and contact RG for more information.

Thanks i'll try greenleaf. Ive tried calling them before but never get an answer. I live in hobbs but seems almost impossible to get someone down here. I barely foundout last month that r greenleaf is delivering to lovington. Which is a good thirty mile drive from my house. But for ten bucks guess i cant complain. Most places always wanted to charge me fourty bucks to meet in roswell. Which is over two hour drive one way for me. I'd love to check out meh but because of the checkpoints i dont think i'll ever go through them. Just not something i want to risk. Although if im ever in LC atleasti know where to get my meds while im there..

Here we go again "Yes, all the producers have the right to refuse to sell medicine to sick and disabled patients. Just wanted to make sure everyone who reads this is clear on your meaning, CFO." I am not an employee for a producer but do have insight about a few of them and have seen how some people act when it comes to dispensary's. It comes down to respect give the respect you want to receive. The employees at these places are just that. They are there to help patients not turn them away. " If anyone wonders why your medicine costs so much, or why availability is never certain, or why quality is always questionable, then look no further than the group in charge of "self-regulating" the medical cannabis program." Again DOH makes the rules the producers follow them. Yes the program is flawed in a few ways but I think the state has done a descent job. They are treading new waters and are going a little slow in response to what the program needs are." It appears to me that the producers have totally forgotten the purpose of this program. Or maybe they've forgotten the financial constraints of the majority of patients in the program. Or maybe one or two producers are giving all the rest a bad name. Who really knows? Hush, now, it's all a secret -- it's not for mere mortals to understand why the program is so dysfunctional. No, only the ones making all the money have the inside scoop. Only... the ones making all the money are the ones making all the rules. It's no wonder the program is so out of balance." This is a new industry and as that there are all kinds of things that no one knows a thing about. DOH is the one making the rules so they are the ones you should be contacting with your concerns if they don't have an answer then no one dose.