Need Co2 advice

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Originally Posted by copobo

I wonder what the source is?

maybe you lived over an old coal mine or something? malfunctioning water heater?

earth ambient cO2 is ~388 ppm

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wow.

mtnlionco = dude - neg rep for this post for me huh buddy? wtf?

I'll be careful not to help you from now on!

seriously dude, just a heads up, you won't have many friends if you randomly drop disapproval ratings on people trying to help you. don't be an ass!

I think I've used it twice, ever.

IMO, it's for marking people who are intentionally being douchebags.

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Originally Posted by MtnLionCO

if you have a basement with unsealed room thats IDEAL, just set up the co2 outside the grow space and transfer air. dont listen to these guys on here! get the monitor first so you know exactly whats going on.

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I assure you that I know how to read a meter with huge ol numbers on em.

I misread your post about co2 and symbiotic relationships. Completely sorry.

But smaller areas ARE easier to control. Supplemental CO2 is pointless if you are not running a sealed room with controlled ventilation.

Get the sand out of your vagina.

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Originally Posted by MtnLionCO

thats not true, if the rest of your house is closed up the room doesnt have to be "sealed".

who grows in a sealed room anyway, you would need to run an air conditioner if your room was sealed (which creates more heat). and how would you control the humidity? mine stays constant at 40%, it doesnt go up to 80% and then trigger an exhaust fan. and my co2 stays constant at 1200 (from me breathing) it doesnt fluctuate around.

maybe i have bigger lungs than you i dunno.

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I grow in a sealed room. I have no problems with controlling my temp/humidity AT ALL. Everyone has to try what works best for them. The fact that you're calling me a liar in half my posts, only proves your ignorance/inexperience on the subject.

Do you stay in your grow room all day long? If you don't, then how the heck could it stay at 1200 ppm constant? "Who grows in a sealed room anyway?" Well, who stays in their grow room all day, anyway?

I won't mention how I think you got those big ol lungs of yours. But I'm guessing it's not from smoking.

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Originally Posted by copobo

humidity of 80% dumps room air.

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:wtf: Have any problems with mold??

sum1call911- Supplemental CO2 is pointless if you use ANY ventilation IMO. That's what A/c is for in a CGE.

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Originally Posted by TurboALLWD

:wtf: Have any problems with mold??

sum1call911- Supplemental CO2 is pointless if you use ANY ventilation IMO. That's what A/c is for in a CGE.

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I meant when not using "controlled" ventilation.

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Originally Posted by sum1cull911

I meant when not using "controlled" ventilation.

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"controlled" ventilation = temp and humidity fluctuation, oh and co2 fluctuation. Not to mention the wasting of CO2 with ventilation. My turbo car puts out enough of it I'd feel bad if I was venting any more. :D

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Originally Posted by TurboALLWD

:wtf: Have any problems with mold??

sum1call911- Supplemental CO2 is pointless if you use ANY ventilation IMO. That's what A/c is for in a CGE.

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none. I don't think it ever gets up there. (soil and coco, no auto water anything)

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Originally Posted by TurboALLWD

"controlled" ventilation = temp and humidity fluctuation, oh and co2 fluctuation. Not to mention the wasting of CO2 with ventilation. My turbo car puts out enough of it I'd feel bad if I was venting any more. :D

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Your acronyms are confusing me. Haha.. IMO=In my opinion? CGE=Controlled Greenhouse Environment?

You're right. To a point it is pointless. But for people who use HPS lights and such, they need the ventilation. Some don't/can't use AC's.

I say a half hour of supp. CO2 @ 1500ppm every half hour, is better than no supp. CO2. As long as during your CO2 ON time, your room is sealed. Because you're already losing CO2 when the fans kick on, why would you wanna lose co2 when they're off?

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Originally Posted by copobo

none. I don't think it ever gets up there. (soil and coco, no auto water anything)

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What do you mean it? My brains not functioning 100% on this Shrom, nice trippy high. 80% humidity has gota equal bud rot and mold, if you really do hit 80 at times I'm super impressed with your herb, especially it's taste. :jointsmile:

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Originally Posted by sum1cull911

Your acronyms are confusing me. Haha.. IMO=In my opinion?

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yeah meant imo not sure why i captilized

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CGE=Controlled Greenhouse Environment?

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closed grow enviroment, or what you said, ive just heard the term thrown around for a sealed co2 enriched room

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why would you wanna lose co2 when they're off?

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Why would you wanna lose co2 period? besides to the plants, I don't mind that at all. :stoned:

I will nicely ask that if you are in this thread to stir things up then please start your own thread as all I wanted was some help from other posters who could possible give some great insite on possible mistakes we are making so we can understand what it takes to have a better product.....enough said...thanks again everyone...

we have figured out today that the co2 gauges may have been put back together by previous owner and the threads crossed and the o ring was trashed out.....we are trying to figure out if we can fix this by getting a new ring but are having trouble finding the right one...does anyone know who might carry such items ??

I bet the grow shop has them, or a beverage distributor. same ones as for co2 beer systems. they are very cheap, get 5 and tie the rest to your regulator. If your metal threads are okay, nothing to worry about.

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Originally Posted by TurboALLWD

What do you mean it?

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I mean the temperature causes the room air to get dumped before the humidity gets too high. At night I have a dehumidifier that will kick in above 60, but it never turns on.

I've never (knock on wood) had mold. PM, yes, but it's been a long time now. pretty dialed, but always willing to learn :)

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Originally Posted by copobo

seriously dude, just a heads up, you won't have many friends if you randomly drop disapproval ratings on people trying to help you. don't be an ass!

I think I've used it twice, ever.

IMO, it's for marking people who are intentionally being douchebags.

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seriously bro, with all due respect to denverbear, but do you actually think i wouldnt notice if i was living over an old coal mine, come on dude.

and making my neg rep public i would consider gay, even though i realize it was the other guy who said i was gay (which i am not).

thanks for the advice lol, i checked my water heater and its not malfunctioning.

obviously this is pointless.

Yep, What Copobo said. And use teflon tape on the threads especially if there chewed up.

Right on Copobo. Know were any cheap charcoal filters are? for 6'' fans. The Chemdogs upstairs absolutely reak.

bottom line is anybody can buy a co2 monitor and test it for themselves.

you could run co2 in your basement with a grow room upstairs as long as your house is closed up. doesnt have to be "sealed".

i know because i have tried many different things for myself so i know what i am talking about, that why i am making a post here in the first place. not following some manual for the first time.

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Originally Posted by MtnLionCO

bottom line is anybody can buy a co2 monitor and test it for themselves.

you could run co2 in your basement with a grow room upstairs as long as your house is closed up. doesnt have to be "sealed".

i know because i have tried many different things for myself so i know what i am talking about, that why i am making a post here in the first place. not following some manual for the first time.

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Do you mean with an HVAC or air system circulating the CO2 through the house? Assuming you have an HVAC / Air system in your basement?

2 high speed fans is all you would need and some ducting, 10 inch can fans.

that would be alot of co2 for a whole house.

here's a cool page to check out
marijuana seeds growing - How much co2 should I add?

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Originally Posted by MtnLionCO

2 high speed fans is all you would need and some ducting, 10 inch can fans.

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Why wouldn't you run the CO2 in the grow room? Why would you run it all the way from the basement to the upstairs? If your grow room wasn't sealed, then you would be filling the house up with CO2. That would be a waste, right? That seems like a lot of extra work and money.

I think dangerous levels of CO2 for humans starts around 10000ppm. Even still, that doesn't seem like it would be good for your health.

it would make sense if you were doing a whole-house grow

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Originally Posted by copobo

that would be alot of co2 for a whole house.

here's a cool page to check out
marijuana seeds growing - How much co2 should I add?

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im here offering my personal experience, and you offer me an article.

its not a debate or popularity contest, like i said , my best advice to a newbie is to get a monitor first.

i go on to detail how my c02 level was high enough without supplementation from me breathing, and you say its only possible on the moon or over a coal mine.

i feel i have to defend myself here because you could have simply given your experience, but you are trying to make it into right and wrong. i will let you defer to your mainline articles, im actually here to learn not try to sound like i know everything, which i dont, the more i learn the more i dont know.

MERRY CHRISTMAS

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Originally Posted by MtnLionCO

im here offering my personal experience, and you offer me an article.

its not a debate or popularity contest, like i said , my best advice to a newbie is to get a monitor first.

i go on to detail how my c02 level was high enough without supplementation from me breathing, and you say its only possible on the moon or over a coal mine.

i feel i have to defend myself here because you could have simply given your experience, but you are trying to make it into right and wrong. i will let you defer to your mainline articles, im actually here to learn not try to sound like i know everything, which i dont, the more i learn the more i dont know.

MERRY CHRISTMAS

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Your experience does not always make you an expert. My wife has 15 years of experience making me dinner. She's no top chef.

Your right, this is no popularity contest. I think I can speak for a few of us when I say we are just confused by your method. Everyone is only here to help. Our meds are important to all of us.

When I said I am doubtful of your high levels of CO2 concentration without you having supp. CO2, it's because of MY EXPERIENCE. I have a meter like you suggest for others to get, and I have never seen ambient levels of CO2 rise that high without supplementing. Unless of course I am breathing on the thing or in a small room. We were only trying to find a logical explanation.

You claimed my experience was "ridiculous". I flat out told you I was not trying to be an ass, yet you still reacted negatively.

I am still curious as to how you have your setup, if you could help me understand? I mean no harm.

I wonder why you are taking this personally? seriously man. this is just a conversation. I learn and try new stuff I read on here all the time, far from figured out. I agree on the monitor 100%. remember, we're just screen names on here and nobody can see your experience.

MtLion's responses seem a little out of character, maybe someone is having a really sh!tty day.

MtLion - relax, it's just a forum. People are just sharing ideas. Yes some toes got stepped on but mostly we have similar goals at heart.

Ok just posting this as I can hit 420 for my post count. Might have to quit the site now and leave it there! HAhaha!

if you have a constant air exchange then it makes no difference whether your co2 is inside the grow room or in the secondary room where the air is being exchanged.

you cant visualize a small basement with co2 generator and a grow room directly above with holes cut in the floor?

what was described originally was a basement with a smaller grow space made within the basement, same idea. the secondary area should be 4 times as large as the grow space.

i am not in a bad mood at all, i simply responded to each post which was a mistake.

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Originally Posted by MtnLionCO

if you have a constant air exchange then it makes no difference whether your co2 is inside the grow room or in the secondary room where the air is being exchanged.

you cant visualize a small basement with co2 generator and a grow room directly above with holes cut in the floor?

what was described originally was a basement with a smaller grow space made within the basement, same idea. the secondary area should be 4 times as large as the grow space.

i am not in a bad mood at all, i simply responded to each post which was a mistake.

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So you're saying the air exhange is constant in the secondary room, and your co2 is in the secondary room... ? You release Co2 into an area 4x's the size of your grow room, instead of just in your grow room?

my partner got the o ring and re-installed it but the regulater still won't work...it seems like the co2 just does not go thru the regulater to the up and down dial so we can set the limits..when we plug it in it clicks but no co2 is comming thru... and yes we do have the tank turned on...and the valves open....lol

if you take the regulator off the tank, and open the valve on the top of the tank - very, very slowly, aimed away (!) from you, does any co2 come out? does it have a pressure gauge?

yea you should verify the gauge shows tank pressure. The solenoid on the regulator is normally a cheap piece of shit. The spring in mine wouldn't have enough pressure to keep it closed. Sounds like your solenoid is stuck closed, or you're tank is empty. lol

took it to a hydo store and found out it was the solinoid...they are fixing it as I type this...cheap piece of crap for sure.

Once you get it back keep an eye on it if your using a timer. Mine keeps sticking open and sending my ppm's up to 1600-1800. I've burned plants because of this problem. Going to get a new solenoid asap.