never gonna happen so until then i am gonna keep my guns
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never gonna happen so until then i am gonna keep my guns
lol, I'm with amsterdam... This was unexpected coming from you. Regardless of my political beliefs, I don't think guns should be allowed plain and simple. There's absolutely no good that can come from owning a gun.Quote:
Originally Posted by ermitonto
Right, in an ideal society there would be no guns. There wouldn't even be the temptation to use them. But the technology has been invented and it isn't going to be forgotten. Guns are going to find their way into the hands of people who want them, legitimately or not, unless you can somehow find a way to dismantle all of the arms stockpiles from every military in the world, burn all the technical manuals describing how to make guns and kill anybody with enough detailed knowledge about making them. And even then, it's just a matter of time before somebody thinks up the idea again.
maybe one day guns will be antiques and we'll be using phazers.. beam me up, scotty, and all that, eh what, pip pip, cheerio
What about stopping a group of dudes from gang raping your girl?Quote:
Originally Posted by F L E S H
2 guys v. one guy ...numbers wins unless guns make them equal.
Or how about just simply feeling safe when you go out? Oh wait I forgot you probably don't go "outside" ;)
Gun laws change depending on what state you live in. Some of my family in Texas carry their guns on a rack in their trucks. Here in Ohio they just passed new gun laws allowing you to carry a weapon. Now everywhere you go there are warnings at work places and in every store stating you can't bring your gun inside. As far gun ranges I grew at them. My stepdad loved to fire his gun, but only for fun. He taught us well you never point a gun at anyone unless you plan to pull the trigger. I don't have gun, nor do I allow my husband to have one. We have three young children in the home and I wouldn't want anything to happen to them or their friends. I don't care for guns although I grew up around them. I think that if I had to pull a gun on someone b/c they had one, they would be more likely to shoot me first anyway so what is the point. I keep my nose clean and stay out of trouble. Does that mean someone won't break into my home and kill me? NO! It just means I'm willing to take my changes aganist someone breaking into my home over one of my children finding it and shooting it first. I don't have a problem with people protecting themselves and feel we all have a right to that, I just don't want one myself is all. Hope that helps.
Yea, American do like the IDEA of shooting someone. I do. However, if it came to it, i wouldn't do it (maybe). Its good to have a gun because they are fun as hell, cool as hell, and scary as hell.
I see where your guys are coming from, but I'd still refrain from having a gun. Statistically I'm more likely to harm a family member with one than an intruder, so locking my doors at night is about as far as I'll go. Maybe a home security system as well. To each their own.
Same here. I don't want a gun myself. I don't want the risk of accidentally harming myself or someone else. But I think other people should be allowed to own them if they so choose and if they know about gun safety.
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Originally Posted by amsterdam
this is false information, but thanks for sharing. It is illegal to carry a gun in MOST states, but I know there are a few that allow such a thing. The ones I am sure about are vermont and arizona.
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Originally Posted by wannagethigh
Nope. You aren;t sure. Its Vermont and Alaska.Quote:
Originally Posted by wannagethigh
OK I know where you heard that statistic but let me tell you how it is slanted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stedric
The original one is if you have gun it is more likely to kill a family member or a close friend than an intruder.
But think about this. first all it included in the sample is fatalities. Why is that? There are tons of cases where an intruder comes in, the home owner shows the gun screams "get the fuck out of here" then the crackhead burns off. Not a fatality but definetly a positve not inluded in the stat. Also doesn't include an instruder that is injured which is very common when you think about both shooting in he dark, under extreme stress and in a situation where police/ambulance will come soon.
The second thing to realize is where does most of the violence come from in a home? Well its obviously from a family member or a "Close friend" so even if it was a situation of a friend raping someone and was shot or incest then that would be included in the statistic because it was a family member or close friend.
Lastly think about suicide. People will kill themselves if they have guns or not. In japan there are basically no guns but they have one of the highest suicide rates of first world countries. If someone wants to kill themselves guns may be an easy choice but if you eliminate that method they will still do it in some other way.