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Well the kids got their own light, but I think I'm gonna need to get the 4 lamp. I'll use this one for a week and see how things go!!! :D
The set up in their new home. I guess the light will do for now since they really powered on!!! :D They will graduate to a larger pots in the next few days, and they will still all fit in the tupperware tub. :cool:
They be lovin' it under their own light. :D Starting to harden nicely, and they will be some nice ladies fer sure!! :cool:
second set lookin' good!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D You can do it Emmie, its no sweat!!! :thumbsup:
Lookin good! :pimp:
I just picked up some samples from the hydro store,.... Advanced Nutrients has some rooter plugs that are supposed to be "Plug and play" No gel or additive needed? :wtf:
So I'm gonna cut some clones tonight and do it the same way I've been working it with 99% success, and I'll try some side by side with the AN plugs. :hippy:
I was gonna start a new thread,.... but if it's ok with you I could post my results here just as easy and save server space on the site.
Wish me luck! :rastasmoke:
I have no problem sharing the thread. Its good for comparison, not competition. :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by canniwhatsis
Cool man.Quote:
Originally Posted by gypski
I didn't take pics while I was cutting from my motherplant,.... but I used my normal method of...
Cut with pruning scissors and place in PH'd water until ready for the rest of the job.
Trim fans and scrape stem lightly with edge of razor.
Lay in puddle of clonex to do 2nd cut at 45* angle.
Skewer a 2nd hole in the rappid rooter plug since the factory hole is too big.
Stuff cutting in skewer hole.
Place in humidity dome under 24-0 T-5 lighting on a heat mat
I did a total of 6 cuttings, 2 of which were done exactly like that, 2 were done using "MX Cloning Solution" from Hydroponix,.... some upstart nute company that dropped some samples off with the hydro store,... it was free, I'll try it in a blind test. If it sucks wind I'll let the store know and not use it again ;) And the last 2 were stuffed without any cloning gel into some Advanced Nutrients rooting plugs. Again these were freebies from the local store, supposed to be bomb,.... I'll find out I guess!
I don't have a pic under the lights ATM.
All plants are showing signs of improvement already and at this point in the game I expect to loose none of them.... so it's a race to rooted to see which compound or cube is best! :rasta:
Worst part of this experiment is I can only afford to keep 2 of them once they are rooted,.... So 4 will have to be destroyed when this is said and done. :(
All 6 were doing well until today when my furry shitheaded helper decided that the humidity dome needed to be open! :mad:
I came home tonight to several VERRY dry clones and one that looks like it wont make it! :(
After scolding the cat, (while he looked at me like "WTF?" ) and watering the dome/ plugs, the clones are looking better, cept for the one :(
I've got roots on one of the "Clonex" plugs, nothing on any of the others, and the F'd plant is one of the "MX" girls.
So far IMHO as pertains to this little test, the Clonex in rapid rooters is winning over the MX gel and the Advance Nutrients plugs.
Pic 1: All the girls
Pic 2: The likely dead one :(
Pic 3: ROOTS!!!!!!
Pic 4: P.S. A buddy of mine asked for a White Widow Clone so a day after I took all the blueberry clones, so I took one. TOTALLY half assed this, NO 2nd cut, scraped the stem with the uncleaned edge of my pruning shears, dipped in some clonex and stuffed into a plug. I figured there was no way in HELL this was gonna make it!!!!!! :o
Ohhh yeah! :stoned: ......... Pics! :rastasmoke:
The wilted clone has come back to life. Still no roots showing on it, but the other 3 clones in the rapid rooters are showing some roots now.
Still nothing on the Advanced Nutrients plugs? :wtf: They aren't dead yet, so I still think it'll work.
As of tonight the 2 clones that used Clonex are ready to pot. So it looks like the other 4 will be the ones that get axed out of my garden. :( And I can only keep 1 of the 2 that are ready to pot, which makes this even harder! :sadcrying
Bummer, I was actually fairly hopeful about the AN plugs, I guess I'll hang on to them long enough to get roots and see just how long it takes.
Finished tally,... 5 of 6 rooted in under 2 weeks. One got potted the other 5 got tossed :(
The one that hadn't rooted was in the AN plug, :wtf: I peeled the plug open and there were some knobs, but no actual root growth after 2 weeks. The other AN plug had a SINGLE root sticking out of the bottom of the stem, nothing growing off of the sides.
Looks like the "Lick and stick" of those plugs is a pile of BS. Perhaps if used in conjunction with their "Juicy Roots" rooting hormone it'll be better. I found that to be about as good as clonex (when used in my normal fashion) in another blind test several months ago. (I love freebies! :D )
As for the "MX Clone" Gel, it worked better than the AN plugs alone, but I won't be using it again as the root structure took half a week longer to form than the Clonex, and it was MUCH weaker.
Sorry, the wife hid the camera from me while the last half of this was going down, so no pics! :mad:
Ive read and re-read through several cloning methods and I still like yours the best. I see you use CloneX rooting gel and a humidity dome, but I notice you mention "rapid rooters" I have heard this term used several times but still havent been able to find out what exactly it is or where to buy them. Are they like rockwool cubes? Sorry if these questions seem petty but I am still new to this game and you seem to be very educated in what you do with your ladies. My goal is to replicate your method to the best of my ability so a materials list would be awesome if you have the time.:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by canniwhatsis
Sorry,.... I replied, even with pics on a second subject pertaining to this thread,..... about 4 posts are gone in this thread alone....... I'd like some explanation for that before I reiterate what I've posted and lost.:wtf:Quote:
Originally Posted by socaltay12
my post about my new bubble cloner disappeared too... hmmm.Quote:
Originally Posted by canniwhatsis
Here is what happened though. All 3 of the very hard to clone white widows got roots... this one took off and went crazy with it first.
Emmie
One of my buddy's finally gave up on his bubble cloner,.... he was having about 75% success, but when it'd fail, it'd fail bigtime!
I'm gonna be cutting some more clones this week since my last round of seeds failed. (new heat mat cooked em! :mad: )
I guess I'll re- up on the last bit of info I posted in here.
"Can I cut clones from a plant in flower?" ;) :rastasmoke:
Well I love my bubble cloner. I have killed one clone so far, but that was more my fault as to how I prepared the stem. I have 3 viable clones now in soil from the cloner and 2 more started. Each of these were well into flower when snipped. It just seems to take a bit while the clones sit there and say WTF for a week or so adjusting to the light, and then they take off and start shooting out roots. Each of these successes were my white widow too... a notoriously hard one to clone according to some and as my 5 previous failed attempts without the bubble cloner attest to, not at all easy for a newbie to figure out.Quote:
Originally Posted by canniwhatsis
Cant wait to see your input on cloning from flower. For me after 5 failed attempts in veg, it was necessary in order to insure the safety of this line to try it this late in the present grow. It seems from what I have seen, that it can be an option, and if done sparingly, does little to stress the flowering mother plant.
Emmie
Cloning a flowering plant. Yes it can be done! I would recommend doing it fairly early in flowering, that's what I've done here.
As some of you know I grow SCROG, and around the second week of flowering I will kull out the smaller undergrowth that won't make it to the screen, On my recent blueberry many of those shoots were just too tempting to clone for just an experiment like this! :rastasmoke:
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First off, I Skewered the Rappid rooter plug since the manufacture hole is WAY too big.
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Then I select a good size cutting, and do a second cut at 45* after scrapping the stem lightly with a razor.
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This time around I used a cap off of a permanent marker that has been rinsed to hold a small amount of Clonex and dipped the stem for 10 seconds.
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I took 2 clones from the undergrowth of my 2 week flowering plant. And 2 as a baseline off of my mother.
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The cutting took place on 2-26, and all 4 had rooted and were ready to pot on 3-13, 2 were destroyed, leaving me one that was taken from the flowering plant, and one normal clone.
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While the clone cut from the flowering plant rooted and is healthy and happy, it is throwing some re-vege fits growing single and double leaflet leaves and stretching like mad.
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The baseline clone is pluggin along like normal! :pimp:
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Now can someone tell me why in the past we had all kinds of cloning machines etc. posted here?. No need for all that!.
Cut, dip(optional), plant in soil...that's all there is to it~!.
Most don't have a "bubble cloner". That is simply a device to speed up cuttings(and a waste of time and resources). I just cloned from flowering plant(albeit one I'm reverting back to vegetative state).Quote:
Originally Posted by emilya
I'm surprised you are having problems, cut, dip exposed stalk in honey, and plant.
Maybe I'm just a lucky guy, but I have 24 hour old cuttings happy as good be under a dome environment to retain moisture.
Been there done that,.... never with good success. I've heard of using honey to seal the wound when grafting (tho haven't tried it) but never for cloning. Having read some threads on other sites, I'd say the key to the bubble cloners is keeping the res at the right temp.Quote:
Originally Posted by sunbiz1
Cloning from a re-vege is no different than cloning from a vege plant, since it is in fact a veging plant once again.
I've added that little snipit because of the number of times I've read the question/situation "My plant wasn't showing sex, so I've had it in flower for 3 weeks and its a girl,.... can I take clones? or is it too late?"
Upon re-reading some of the comments posted here, I may simply be getting lucky using the old-fashioned method. I'll post pics in the next several days. What I have noticed is they need humidity. I removed the dome cover from one after 3 days today, within an hour it wilted...won't be trying that again!. Yet I've read here of those having success in moderate levels. *shrugs*. Cloning from cuttings works fine for most native plants in my area with no root gel etc at all, that's why I'm experimenting a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by canniwhatsis
1 week after planting, and the first 2 are doing well. Since they still like/need the dome, I'll leave it on for another week.
Peace all.
Has anyone tried placing cuttings in straight rooting gel?. I saw a product for this method yesterday at a garden supply center, and was wondering if it actually works.
I also do when an ounce was 4 or 5 inches lol Peace out