No worries, I need to learn as I move along. After a couple of days of flowering I realized I had not changed my bulbs to my HPS. I think I am finally on the right track. Thanks for all the help :)Quote:
Originally Posted by tinytoon
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No worries, I need to learn as I move along. After a couple of days of flowering I realized I had not changed my bulbs to my HPS. I think I am finally on the right track. Thanks for all the help :)Quote:
Originally Posted by tinytoon
My update is I am 1 1/2 week into flower, things are getting thick and heat is up a bit this week to 85 degrees or so during day time.
Trying to get my 1 runt plant (last pic) to get going with UFO light on it but I think I just have a runt. Overall pretty happy with the ebb/flow system I bought.
Just changed out rez and put in 35 gallons, girls are drinking a lot so I just added more water this round to last for the week. I know one thing my back yard plants have never look so good. I guess one of the benefits from changing the rez once a week
Enough bubbles/O2 for 35 gallons?
Doesnt look bad from here. I run 2 6" airstones atm but after this run I am going to switch to 2 12" stones. I run 40 gals in flower.
Cool Post man!! Mine just came in the otherday, just got the rocks in the buckets and test ran yesterday. ( the store sells these inserts instead of clay-anyone ever use?) Anyway, Im new to hydro, but many yrs in soil. looks like your about 1 month ahead of me. Im gonna tag along this post cause so far the info is GREAT. Im lost as to what RO water is?
Thanks man, just trying to keep a time line from begging to end to show others what I did right or wrong since me being a new guy to hydro. I will post some new pics later. If you keep reading you will learn a lot from guys on this forum, good luck with your grow. :) RO water = "reverse osmosis" water, much cleaner than tap water. RO water is the way to go for hydro.Quote:
Originally Posted by mainmanvern
RO water would no doubt be a good thing to have but as long as PPM out of tap isn't out of site and people can actually drink it without growing extra body parts then tap should do you fine. In my opinion anything under 200ppm is usable. Mine runs around 120/130 and I raise it to 200 with calmag before adding anything else. As long as I can do what I have been doing with tap I'll stay with it, to me RO seems to be a pain and takes to long but if my water was up around 600 I would no doubt be singing a different tune :wtf:
Not a lot to report other than little heat wave in my area, grow tent temp is higher than normal. Temp inside the tent has been 85 to 87 range for last few days. Lots of fans blowing lots of hot air around. I have been using the frozen plastic liter bottles to try and keep res water cool enough, so far so good. Change two of them out in AM and PM every day. Water staying under 75 degrees.
Plants are pretty thick and have stop turning them, just do not want to break any branches. The sativa/indica (OG Kush) are taking over space for my sativa (Super Lemon Haze). Next time I will not mix plants up like this.
I hear allot of peeps saying they wont mix plants again, sounds like good info.
I have couple of plants in "soil" and both plants have this issue. What do you think is causing this?
I am using RO water, cal mag and all the botanicare mixes. I am following amounts on label to mix in so just a little strange on what is up with these spots on leaves. Plants are 5 weeks into flowering.
4 weeks into flowering and just pretty much been on auto pilot. Still changing rez once a week and following the nutes schedule on the bottle. I have said this before and will say it again, I will not mix up strains next time, will just go with one stain next grow. My sativa plants are not getting the light they should in the middle to lower part of the plants.
Things smelling good in the room :)
If you continue to have problems with light getting to the lower end then come harvest time you do have an alternative. If you have such a big difference from top of plant to bottom then when time harvest the top of the plant that is finished and leave the bottom half to finish. I did this in my tent just to see if it would benefit the grow and it sure did. No more lil fluff buds from the lower end.
Thanks Tiny, will do and great idea. My OG Kush plants have turned into big/thick bushes.
2 weeks from harvest and I think I am on the home stretch with no major issues and this happens.......I go into my grow room and two of my biggest plant are bent in half on the floor!! I went in the tent and straighten them back up with string at the top of the tent but I hope they are not fucked, they were bent over for about 8 hours. I also put support string on all other plants.
Both got pinched pretty good half way up and the main stem but like I said I straighten them out. I will keep an eye on them but hope they are OK??
Never thought of tomato cages but will get those next time, just pissed me off that this happened. You get soooo close and this happens. :(
just try not to bend then around any more than needed to get them tied up,it happens in mother nature and its just stress and makes it better.
Daddy
Boy do I know how you feel :wtf:
Thanks for the feedback and yep I think I have them tied up good enough and just going to let them be until harvest. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Daddynobucks
I was so happy with the bud size on my plants and never thought they would bend over like that. I remember reading your post about yours doing that but thought to myself "I am OK". Next grow I will used support/cages.Quote:
Originally Posted by tinytoon
I walked into my room and I just freaked out. We all spend so much time on a grow I just thought to my self oh shit what did I just let happen.
Wow, your grow looks impressive! You must be proud of your accomplishments !
Nice !
The photos of the plants you posted have the wrinkly & claw appearance
that i've been worrying about for the last month and it apparently is NORMAL !
Zeffer
the "wrinkly and claw " appearance is a sign of too much nutrients. I too also followed the recommended amounts on the bottle labels when I first started growing. What I have learned is " Less is More ". You also have to remember that every strain is not going to be able to handle going full strength with the nutrients. It is basically a learning process to see what the plant can handle, and if the leaves start curling, you should cut back on the nutes.
You will be able to tell by looking at the new growth if the changes you make are effective.
hey thanks JH7....the nutes thing was from what i can tell pretty acturatly
on the mark at 300ish ppm's up until a month or so ago. This is week 11 from
seed and i've had'm up to 600ish ppm but now they are down to
400ish ppm and watering 2x / day cause i thought they were getting to much
water, NOT nutrients....See, the roots in the water / nutrients, is the problem
I think ! ? But then i see Scottcc5c post pictures and WOW his plants
are doing the same thing except his plants are in full BLOOMINATION !
So, i reckon i'll move on to other issues if they arrive, cuz'n the condition
may be normal !
Mainly, my question is WHAT DO OTHERS DO ABOUT ROOTS SITTING IN
WATER / NUTRIENTS when using hydroton set up with EBBA & FLOEY SYSTEMS
Zeffern Zoot Alures !
As far as nute strength goes I have been following label recommendation. Not experienced enough to say yes or no too much or not on the nutes but I can say that I am very happy with how heavy/thick plants are with buds with 2 weeks to go. Wish I could post some pics. I have a mix of plants (7 sativa and 5 indica/sativa) and will never do that again.
As far as your question about what guys do and roots sitting in the 1 inch of water at the bottom of the ebb/flow buckets. I do/did nothing on this grow and I have never read anything that says its an issue.
Tiny or other guys might give opinions about the roots sitting in 1 inch of water all the time.
One more thing in this question of 1 inch of standing water and the bottom of the ebb/flow buckets.....
Few months back at my hydro store where I bought my system the store was trying an experiment using the same system I have. What they did was put a 1 inch block under each bucket to raise it up so that water would drain out after each cycle. I never followed up with the hydro store to see if it made any difference or not but there's an idea for you if you want to try it. :)
scottcc5s
Thanks scottcc5s ,
Yeah, i tried that, except i did it wrong. The correct method is to raise the HYDROTON BUCKETS, not the water buckets ! Tinytoon's idea was to install
3or4" x 1 1/2" pvc pipe in the bottom of the WATER BUCKETS for better drainage. If one places blocks under the water buckets ( raising both buckets )
this would cause the buckets to, over-fafafloey !
" wish i could stop ! ...but i prowly won't...cuz'n i can't !...nonono i shouldn't !
Zeffer-on-zoot suit
Umm sorry that is not correct. All the people I have helped setting one of these things up was to make sure all buckets were at the same height. I also explained what would happen if they were not at same height either way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeffer
What I stated was to take a piece of PVC of whatever diameter you want (I'm going to use 4" because thats what is laying around downstairs) about 2" tall and place under the LINER so the bottom was no longer in the water. Lastly in that statement I thanked Daddynobucks for the info because he was the person that informed me of this.
Pic update, going to take them down 1 week from today. Flushing them out until then. :)
First off, beautiful plants Scott...
Yeah, the way i wrote that explanation of the bucket set up is confusing
but it was suppose to be the way Tinytoon and Daddynobucks explained it ! ! LOL
That is how i have mine set up ! ! ! The tubes for height, go in
the water buckets !
Thanks again,
Zeff
Nice job Scott they look really good :thumbsup:
Thanks Tiny appreciate that....just copied your setup and thanks for the help all the way. Getting ready for round # 2. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by tinytoon
good job man. :jointsmile:
Thanks, just read and listed to what guys said to do and not to do. Some of the plants are thick and some are medium to maybe light, next grow hope to be more thick like # 1 pic above :)Quote:
Originally Posted by drudown11
I will post over all (dry) weight and also I kept track of what it cost me from start to finish, figure that might be good to pass on as well.
OK so I have very limited space for hanging and drying 12 plants so I bought this net/hanger for my first 5 plants I had to cut down. Don't bust my balls too much for the hanging net, had no choice but t go this way. Based on what net system you see, what's your opinion on how long I should let these clippings/buds dry out for??
BTW, do you let clippings dry out before you throw them in the freezer if you are going to make hash?
What are the opinions are the hand/spin trimmers like this Spin Pro Trimmer?
I was thinking of getting one for time savings BUT do they do more damage than good?
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Just do not want to drop $500 if its just going to damage buds vs hand trimming. Just curious how other guys are trimming grows in the 1 lb to 2 lb range.
We just bought one of those just before doing the nasement and holy shit what a time saver! Took about 1/4 the time as hand trimming. Ours came with the single straight wire cutter and also a quad wire cutter. We put 2 of the quad cutters on, crank that sucker about 20-25 times and your done. Only problem is depending on how much you have to do your arm gonna get tired of cranking. They do sell an electric motor for certain models or can buy one that already has a motor. Needless to say I will be buying a motor.
Thanks, I think for this grow I will just suck it up and spend a lot of time hand trimming while watching football over the weekend. Next round going to buy something that saves time, figure do it this way for now and live/learn what it takes. :)
Well I am neck deep in hand trimming and trying to do it right the first time so I do not have to go back over them. Read on this forum someplace where someone said that hand trimming is about 1 hour per 1 ounce and I would say that is not that far off..... Hand trimming takes time!! :)
Well I thought I would just post my final overall results from my first grow, things are are trimmed up and have cured and I ended up with 27.5 oz for 12 plants with 600 and 400 watt lamps covering the 12 plants. I spent right at $1600 during this grow for electric/nutes/water/misc....that figure DOES NOT include my cost for lights and my Ebb/flow system.
Thanks to all the guys that helped me on my first grow, big thanks to Tiny for all the insight. My second grow is 3 weeks in (veg). :)
Good Job for the first run!! :jointsmile: