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Originally Posted by Zedleppelin
But you want to grow for them? There was a time I would have been ok with that but between the big money dispensaries pushing this bill and all the other arrogant ex-McDonald punk owners that act like they have us by the balls everytime we try to vend something I say fuck them, they don't deserve my meds. A dispensary that I had been vending to for two years offered me a contract for $2300 a lb even though everything I have ever brought them they have never marked at under $60 an eight. If I would have taken that a year from now they would negotiate that down to $2000 and so on. I dont want to have anything to do with these greedy bastards and a lot of them will fail. As time goes by less and less people are going to jump through the hoops to get or keep their card, who's going to lose and who's going to gain with that situation? The black market is going to be the biggest its ever been in a few months.
You have a point but I think cannaguy and the rest of them are trying to find a way to stay in the game. This might be a way for independent growers to still stick around. It really doesn't make a difference in my world, I got nothing to offer. I still have a dispensary thats going to buy my extra, nothing big. But I would like to see a few people come out ok. I want growers to succeed so they have to recognize you as an important part of this business. I know what you're telling me, I don't want them to win but supplying them would surly help them make their money. I guess I mean, I dont want them to succeed in pushing growers out.
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Originally Posted by donnadanko
I feel like an ass, I was letting mine go for $2000 before all this.:(
Sorry, i couldnt read any further. 2 points i want to make. 1 for you and 1 for me.
You- Damn, that is crazy, but im supporting A+ REAL meds, not half ass shit. The more i read general grow op threads, sounds like alot of ppl cant grow A+ for some reason. Jus putn it out there.
Me- That you just helped me switch my point of view on what i said about lowering the price to what basically what you were already doing. Once i read it and seen(or is that saw) someone was doing it, It hurt me, cause alot of work goes into GOOD meds. I honestly believe the harder you work during a crop finessing each plant, the better the quality is for some reason, i mean duh!.
Point being, i guess for it to be profitable at that price, their will need to be sufficient amount of light:cool:. Everyone involved in this whole thing is really involved in a movement as a whole and the mmj part of it is just a good front for media and getting it started b/c it is just a business, really.
Obviously, everyone is damn near in it for the money, but why not. Every business is. period. Don't put all this medical bullshit on the front like all these damn people are sitting here running MMJ businesses. Your sellng weed out of a storefront, call it what you want to call it. lol It will be like liquor soon. i mean it is. I don't think it needs ALOT of regulation, b/c it will regulate itself. Everyone will pour in and the strong survive, welcome to America. Now, I have up-most respect for EVERY SINGLE disp, owner,grwr who is doing it good and morally, B/c YOU are a huge part of the movement. Thanks in that part. One more thing, The price WILL have to come down, b/c its illegal in TX. and it's THE SAME PRICE. What's wrong with that picture?
Alright i quit, Hope i got some kind of point across. :stoned:
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Originally Posted by greengorillaz
With a sea of green in 500 square feet, I can at a minimum produce 8lbs every two weeks. If I of course have several monster phenos in my group of mamas, I can do much better.
Check your reputation. :thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by cannamanibus
Sorry, i couldnt read any further. 2 points i want to make. 1 for you and 1 for me.
You- Damn, that is crazy, but im supporting A+ REAL meds, not half ass shit. The more i read general grow op threads, sounds like alot of ppl cant grow A+ for some reason. Jus putn it out there.
Me- That you just helped me switch my point of view on what i said about lowering the price to what basically what you were already doing. Once i read it and seen(or is that saw) someone was doing it, It hurt me, cause alot of work goes into GOOD meds. I honestly believe the harder you work during a crop finessing each plant, the better the quality is for some reason, i mean duh!.
Point being, i guess for it to be profitable at that price, their will need to be sufficient amount of light:cool:. Everyone involved in this whole thing is really involved in a movement as a whole and the mmj part of it is just a good front for media and getting it started b/c it is just a business, really.
Obviously, everyone is damn near in it for the money, but why not. Every business is. period. Don't put all this medical bullshit on the front like all these damn people are sitting here running MMJ businesses. Your sellng weed out of a storefront, call it what you want to call it. lol It will be like liquor soon. i mean it is. I don't think it needs ALOT of regulation, b/c it will regulate itself. Everyone will pour in and the strong survive, welcome to America. Now, I have up-most respect for EVERY SINGLE disp, owner,grwr who is doing it good and morally, B/c YOU are a huge part of the movement. Thanks in that part. One more thing, The price WILL have to come down, b/c its illegal in TX. and it's THE SAME PRICE. What's wrong with that picture?
Alright i quit, Hope i got some kind of point across. :stoned:
I have grade A meds, if your in Southern Colo you can check them out. I never sold mine to dispensaries by the pound. Most my meds went to card holders for free. I would sell a few onces here and there to cover costs of growing. It would have been nice to have made more money to buy more of the stuff I needed to grow. I started doing this because I needed the meds and my cousin has cancer, that is now in his bones. I didn't mean I would have liked making a ton of money because I felt I deserved it.
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Originally Posted by cannamanibus
Sorry, i couldnt read any further. 2 points i want to make. 1 for you and 1 for me.
You- Damn, that is crazy, but im supporting A+ REAL meds, not half ass shit. The more i read general grow op threads, sounds like alot of ppl cant grow A+ for some reason. Jus putn it out there.
Me- That you just helped me switch my point of view on what i said about lowering the price to what basically what you were already doing. Once i read it and seen(or is that saw) someone was doing it, It hurt me, cause alot of work goes into GOOD meds. I honestly believe the harder you work during a crop finessing each plant, the better the quality is for some reason, i mean duh!.
Point being, i guess for it to be profitable at that price, their will need to be sufficient amount of light:cool:. Everyone involved in this whole thing is really involved in a movement as a whole and the mmj part of it is just a good front for media and getting it started b/c it is just a business, really.
Obviously, everyone is damn near in it for the money, but why not. Every business is. period. Don't put all this medical bullshit on the front like all these damn people are sitting here running MMJ businesses. Your sellng weed out of a storefront, call it what you want to call it. lol It will be like liquor soon. i mean it is. I don't think it needs ALOT of regulation, b/c it will regulate itself. Everyone will pour in and the strong survive, welcome to America. Now, I have up-most respect for EVERY SINGLE disp, owner,grwr who is doing it good and morally, B/c YOU are a huge part of the movement. Thanks in that part. One more thing, The price WILL have to come down, b/c its illegal in TX. and it's THE SAME PRICE. What's wrong with that picture?
Alright i quit, Hope i got some kind of point across. :stoned:
If you research the prices across the usa they are pretty much the same price give or take a little for good stuff in states were it it legal and illegal.
I have talked with a lot of growers and a lot of them will start selling under ground and already doing it at the same price they have been selling at. The state will lose money from tax revenue. "SOME" fo the dispensary will suffer if they stay with the 30/70 and "some" will suffer with quailty if they try to stay legal.
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[quote=donnadanko]I have grade A meds, if your in Southern Colo you can check them out. I never sold mine to dispensaries by the pound. I just figured at 200 an oz it came out to under that. Most my meds went to card holders for free. I would sell a few onces here and there to cover costs of growing. It would have been nice to have made more money to buy more of the stuff I needed to grow. I started doing this because I needed the meds and my cousin has cancer, that is now in his bones. I didn't mean I would have liked making a ton of money because I felt I deserved it. (How do you edit stuff on this forum anyway)?
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Originally Posted by throatstick
im south of denver too...
Where about?
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Originally Posted by donnadanko
You have a point but I think cannaguy and the rest of them are trying to find a way to stay in the game. This might be a way for independent growers to still stick around. It really doesn't make a difference in my world, I got nothing to offer. I still have a dispensary thats going to buy my extra, nothing big. But I would like to see a few people come out ok. I want growers to succeed so they have to recognize you as an important part of this business. I know what you're telling me, I don't want them to win but supplying them would surly help them make their money. I guess I mean, I dont want them to succeed in pushing growers out.
besides alot of shops have been buying there meds from outta state.so they did'nt give a shit about the local growers anyways.wonder how they will make it now??
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Originally Posted by donnadanko
I have grade A meds, if your in Southern Colo you can check them out. I never sold mine to dispensaries by the pound. I just figured at 200 an oz it came out to under that. Most my meds went to card holders for free. I would sell a few onces here and there to cover costs of growing. It would have been nice to have made more money to buy more of the stuff I needed to grow. I started doing this because I needed the meds and my cousin has cancer, that is now in his bones. I didn't mean I would have liked making a ton of money because I felt I deserved it. (How do you edit stuff on this forum anyway)?
The system only gives you 10 minutes (I believe) after you post something to edit it otherwise you are just stuck with what you wrote. Next time you post, go back to your post and you will see an edit box that is right next to the quote box. If the edit box isn't there, you are too late and the system won't let you edit.
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Originally Posted by GreenGiant130
Hi greengorillaz, please contact BMMD (Boulder Medical Marijuana Dispensary) at (303) 449-2663 and ask for Mike, tell him Dave sent you :thumbsup:
Did greengorillaz just get an offer?
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Originally Posted by puntacometa
So if I'm sitting on 100 growing plants when the new law goes into effect and I don't have an affiliation with a "center", approximately how far out in the wind is my ass while I sit back and let the smoke clear?
Can these dispensaries even buy my product if it was growing during the hiatus between July 1 and the time I affiliate with a "center"? What is the status of my crop after July 1 if I'm not affiliated with a dispensary? Seems to me that since the caregiver model for over 5 patients is gone, I'm going to have 70+ plants being grown illegally after July 1 if I don't have my ducks in a row.
Also, the price per oz may rise, but I think we all know how much of that price will go into the pocket of the grower. I had a dispensary offer me a $2500.00 contract last year so that they could "reduce the prices to their patients". Total bullshit. They didn't reduce their prices at all. They just screwed the growers who signed up.
First of all I wouldn't be sitting on 100 plants---you're in DEA territory there--and if you got busted no amount of 1284 is going to keep you out of jail. When you go to a federal court--in defense--you can't even mention you were growing for medical marijuana patients. So don't get comfortable with large grows.
If you are currently a caregiver---only grow the amount of plants you are permitted to grow--stay out of the spot-light and wait this one out.
Even the Department of Revenue stated this is going to take several months to figure out. Doing anything else right now--is just chasing our tails.
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Originally Posted by rightwinger
First of all I wouldn't be sitting on 100 plants---you're in DEA territory there--and if you got busted no amount of 1284 is going to keep you out of jail. When you go to a federal court--in defense--you can't even mention you were growing for medical marijuana patients. So don't get comfortable with large grows.
Your point is well taken.
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If you are currently a caregiver---only grow the amount of plants you are permitted to grow--stay out of the spot-light and wait this one out.
Am I a caregiver now? I've got lots of patients. Are they really still my patients?
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Even the Department of Revenue stated this is going to take several months to figure out. Doing anything else right now--is just chasing our tails.
Understood. I made some adjustments to the unit numbers yesterday to keep in line with 16 patients.
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Originally Posted by donnadanko
Did greengorillaz just get an offer?
looks like it. where are you green?
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Originally Posted by BasementWarrior
Hi everyone, I'm new here but have been posting on other forums for a few years now and have been growing for many years.
I'm nervous about HB1284 too, It's been a fairly cool ride operating as a legal caregiver the last few years. But, at the same time, I'm secretly excited about the potential new changes. Hear me out.
When I first started growing (mid 90's) I was getting $4400/lb, no negotiations, and could not grow enough to keep up with demand. I was never asked what strain it was. I never heard any complaints. I only had to meet with 1, sometimes 2 people a month. I fished a lot.
As a legal caregiver I have slightly sick, mostly stoopid (pun intended) patients who are extremely entitled and demanding. My patients want me to grow a dozen different strains so they can pick the 1 or 2 that turned out the best that run and then they leave me stuck with the B's until I have to blow em out for $800/qp to the dispensaries before the next harvest.
My patients see all the desperate new caregivers/dispensaries come onto the scene offering free everything and want me to compete with all these phantom freebies of unknown quality.
Dealing with dispensaries as a vendor has not been very pleasant either. The huge influx of growers to CO has definitely given the power to the dispensaries. If it's between paying the bills or holding out for a fair price, everyone is going to do what it takes to pay the bills eventually.
I predict that within a short time there will be a lot less growers and there will also be far fewer licensed patients since very few will comply with SB109 hoops. But, there will still be just as many folks smoking the ganja. So do the math. Supply goes down, legal patients stop renewing, demand stays constant.
Yes, start pointing fingers and throwing eggs, I'm the one grower in CO who is secretly excited about the passing of hb1284. I'm going to try and have the best of both worlds for sure now. With a few pieces of window dressing on my wall giving me a legal defense for my grow, as well as, higher profits for my produce on the newly invigorated CO black market, I see a bright future ahead for those of us with the balls and the skills to pay the bills.
I'm glad you got the warm and fuzzies!
Be safe.
;)
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Originally Posted by BasementWarrior
Hi everyone, I'm new here but have been posting on other forums for a few years now and have been growing for many years.
I'm nervous about HB1284 too, It's been a fairly cool ride operating as a legal caregiver the last few years. But, at the same time, I'm secretly excited about the potential new changes. Hear me out.
When I first started growing (mid 90's) I was getting $4400/lb, no negotiations, and could not grow enough to keep up with demand. I was never asked what strain it was. I never heard any complaints. I only had to meet with 1, sometimes 2 people a month. I fished a lot.
As a legal caregiver I have slightly sick, mostly stoopid (pun intended) patients who are extremely entitled and demanding. My patients want me to grow a dozen different strains so they can pick the 1 or 2 that turned out the best that run and then they leave me stuck with the B's until I have to blow em out for $800/qp to the dispensaries before the next harvest.
My patients see all the desperate new caregivers/dispensaries come onto the scene offering free everything and want me to compete with all these phantom freebies of unknown quality.
Dealing with dispensaries as a vendor has not been very pleasant either. The huge influx of growers to CO has definitely given the power to the dispensaries. If it's between paying the bills or holding out for a fair price, everyone is going to do what it takes to pay the bills eventually.
I predict that within a short time there will be a lot less growers and there will also be far fewer licensed patients since very few will comply with SB109 hoops. But, there will still be just as many folks smoking the ganja. So do the math. Supply goes down, legal patients stop renewing, demand stays constant.
Yes, start pointing fingers and throwing eggs, I'm the one grower in CO who is secretly excited about the passing of hb1284. I'm going to try and have the best of both worlds for sure now. With a few pieces of window dressing on my wall giving me a legal defense for my grow, as well as, higher profits for my produce on the newly invigorated CO black market, I see a bright future ahead for those of us with the balls and the skills to pay the bills.
I agree with everything except for one thing, I dont think there are going to be that many fewer growers. Current growers *may* grow less but I'm not even sure about that. All the growers I know I have not heard one say they are going to stop. I do think a lot of both patients and growers will go back to the black market so hopefully one will take care of the other and prices will stabilize but I doubt they will go up much.
Things were definitely starting to get out of control with everyone and their mom (literally) growing with dollar signs in their eyes so in that aspect I'm glad, hopefully 1284 will stop every pizza delivery guy and McDonalds worker from lighting up their basement from now on.
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Originally Posted by BasementWarrior
Just wait, you'll see. When you have to know people to move weight and can't just drive around town with a backpack and a map the newbie growers will go back to delivering pizza.
When I started growing I also couldnt grow enough, but as time went on the few people I depended on slowly came across other growers and started using them as leverage to get cheaper prices and everyone started getting into variety. I hope you're right because I get tired of some of the bullshit that goes along with some of this.
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soon, people in new mexico will be complaining about co-buds.
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Originally Posted by BasementWarrior
Yes, because that's what happens in a free market. But it's no longer a free market. Risks and costs are going back up. When the newbies doing this stuff out in the open start getting taken to the ground by a team of gestapo drug task force agents, word will get around and then everything will come tumbling down but the prices. The next 6 months will be an awesome time to find used grow equipment on CL. Bye bye everyone, have a safe drive back to __________.
thats why i have laughed at the bone heads that said 6 months ago that in 2 months the bottom was gunna fall out and nothing would be over 50 an oz lmao.still makes me chuckle
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Originally Posted by canaguy27
looks like it. where are you green?
I didn't get an offer, it was more like I'll take your name and number. I have secured a deal, just not with these guys.
Why can't the growers that do remain and go the legal route form some kind of union or co-op and set our prices?
Most commodities have a set price. If you go to a pharmacy and buy little blue or yellow pills for whatever ails you, pharmacy A doesn't deeply discount in order to compete with pharmacy B.
Growers have some bargaining power now, we have what the MMC's need in order to stay in business. No longer will they be able to strongarm us into ridiculous prices because they have 100 basement growers they can buy from.
I've heard over and over about how much overhead the dispensaries have and in order to compete, they need product well below the $3000.00 a lb mark. I don't disagree with the fact they have overhead. I've heard many say it's just a weed and monkeys can grow weed. I've seen a dozen vendors hit one dispensary in a matter of a couple hours and watched as one grower let his meds go for $2100.00 an lb, ridiculous!
As we growers get into compliance with HB 1284 and align with a dispensary, our costs to produce AAA meds will skyrocket. The rent alone on a properly zoned facility with a cool landlord has tripled in price. How in the hell can I let my product go for less than $3200.00 a lb and stay afloat?
I'd be more than happy to sell them my AAA meds for $2500.00 a lb if they pay all the cost's associated with the grow.
Seriously folks, we have some power back in our possession and if we can stick together, we can be fairly compensated and prosper.
My 2 cents. Peace!
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Originally Posted by BasementWarrior
I wonder how many people are going to get resistant mites or worse, a bad case of PM from those inspectors going around from grow to grow to grow.
If I ran a dispenso grow op. I would make those bastards scrub in and wear a full suit bc of this reason.
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Originally Posted by BasementWarrior
Yeah, anything less than $200/oz is ridiculous. Hell 200/oz is fairly ridiculous and a great deal for the dispensaries if your meds are B or better. If you are growing fire and selling for less than $225/oz I don't get it. Dispensaries are offering insulting contract rates. I don't want to contract with a dispensary anyway because I don't want my grow regularly terrorized by douche bags from the state. I wonder how many people are going to get resistant mites or worse, a bad case of PM from those inspectors going around from grow to grow to grow.
yup so i don't get why these places seem so happy.if their grow goes south they will be fucked.no more aww shit our crop is gone"any caregivers out there have any come on in we need your stock".
