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girls look great phat!!! the only way to find out how you feel about leaf trimming is to do it, lol!!! opinions are like...... well, you know. if you ever have room to use a plant to test on, give it a try. one thing to remember about trimming, don't do too much at one time.
I got the camera back today, so here are a couple of pics...
Main Cola Plant D (Day 43-F).................................................. ...........Main Cola Plant D (Day 31-F)
http://imgur.com/jy0lUl.jpg http://imgur.com/QsRovl.jpg
1 of the Main Cola's on Four Tops
http://imgur.com/mPI9sl.jpg
Thanks :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bongojaz
wow tasty looking! Nice and icy. What's the strain again?
I have no idea what the strain is. It's from a different mother, but from the same family line as the cuttings I used for my last grow.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigsby
Looks very nice indeed Jay.
man they look damn good :thumbsup::thumbsup:
Main Cola Plant C
http://imgur.com/jUFj9l.jpg
1 of the main colas on Four Tops.
http://imgur.com/2Cqbbl.jpg
Four Tops
http://imgur.com/XRQrIl.jpg
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Originally Posted by sarah louise
Thanks :DQuote:
Originally Posted by StickyBuds1987
jay nice lookin girls ! ecpecially with cfls ! Even your lower buds seem to have developed well, Ive started LSTing becauce the lower ones were so small. You rekon that the lower buds have got better due to the reflective mylar ? I also saw you got 2oz a plant last grow:rasta: ! I had five plants and i got 1oz ! They were very stressed toward the end of the grow but still ! 250watt cfl ? 10U ? Anywayman lookin good, check out my cfl thread if you wana:rastasmoke:
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Originally Posted by Charbud
While it may have an effect, I don't think mylar is the reason my lower buds fill out (The secondary buds on this grow are actually smaller than the last grow and I am hoping they will fill out in the next 2 weeks). I just try to keep the lights as close as is possible to my plants without burning them and use a tried and trusted food schedule. In the future I plan to increase my yield using LST, SCROG or just adding more side and top lighting. These first couple of grows are just to help me learn the ropes.
The secondary buds are still not fattening up as much as last time :( but all 5 main colas are looking nice :). I added a battery in these pics for scale, the battery is 1x1.75".
(Click pics for hi-res versions)
Main Cola Plant D (I labelled it C last post)
http://imgur.com/paVAHl.jpg
Main Cola Plant D closeup
http://imgur.com/vRT54l.jpg
The Jungle (I am struggling to get a decent pic of the colas on four tops)
http://imgur.com/W1QDzl.jpg
I stopped feeding my ladies PK 13/14 on day 60. They are now being fed the basic food regime of 3/4 Strength Canna Hydro Flores, full strength Cannazyme and 3ml per litre Cannaboost. I am planning to harvest on day 77. Last time I harvested at 9.5 weeks, the weed had a really nice heady buzz that lasted for ages. This time I am trying for a bit of couch lock, hence the longer flowering period. Anyway enough chat, time for some pics.
(click on pics for hi-res versions)
Plant D Main Cola
http://imgur.com/fNNp5l.jpg
Plant D Main Cola
http://imgur.com/henFyl.jpg
One of plant Plant E`s Main Colas (it is the 2nd smallest out of the 4 Colas)
http://imgur.com/VvUMyl.jpg
The jungle
http://imgur.com/AJ3BVl.jpg
...nice progress PhatJay! Harvest looks like it's just around the corner. I can only hope that my lil' ladies look ½ as good in another 3-5 weeks...
Great grow Phatjay!!!! Cant wait to see the total dry weight after harvest
omg phatjay ur plants r sexc and ur usin cfls? Mate dats well nyc.. I woz wondering if u cud giv ne advice on my babys.. Lyk how long u wud giv em til harvest.. And sry 4 ne misundastandin on charbuds thread
Fed my ladies for the last time tonight. Just going to give them PH adjusted tap water till day 71, then I will start my version of Stress Ripening (3 days of chilled PH'd water and then 3 days of darkness with no water).
I'll post more pics on day 71.
Thanks, I'm sure your plants will do just fine with all the TLC you are giving them.Quote:
Originally Posted by CovertCarpenter
Cheers CoolWHHHip, I can't wait either, I am sat here with no bud and the smell is killing me!Quote:
Originally Posted by COOLWHIP
Thanks for stopping by xxMrGreenThumbx, I have posted a reply and an apology in your thread. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by xxMrGreenThumbx
Dont know how you do it with only cfls ! maybe i just suck at growing !! those colas are looking piff of the piff !!!!
hi phat jay im glad we kool now mate.. jst a few questions u growin in soil? And did u use canna pk late? On canna guide it ses wen small fruits develope.. Give pk 13 14? 3 2 4 weeks in2 flowering..? Coz i gave it 2 myn a weeks ago wif anuva week jst flores den da last 2 weeks water.. Finkin it'll finish in 7 weeks.. Im rong init its gna take mor dan 7 weeks u rekn? So dere anuva stage in bud developement? Wil the buds change 2 look mor lyks ur babys? Its at 6 weeks this sat.. So u fink a few mor weeks.. And lookin at thb plant all triks r cloudy.. Wt u fink? Coz i grew b4 outside and my plants neva gt past the point that, that plants at now coz ov shity weatha and mold.. Sry 4 da essay mate.. So wat watt cfls u using? Cheers mate.. Sqy if i dnt make ne sense x
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Originally Posted by PhatJay
Hey PhatJay.....your babies are looking real good! :thumbsup: What does the chilled water for 3 days do? I've never heard of that technique....you do that for 3 days and then lights off for 3 days?
How you liking the coco? This is my first time working with it. I've had to be very careful with the watering.
Anyways....awesome job! Those are beautiful buds! :jointsmile:
I don't have any special skills, I think it is the coco, plants love it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charbud
Glad you like my ladies, I checked out your grow, I wish I had your lights!Quote:
Originally Posted by moody420
The chilled water for 3 days is part of Stress Ripening, it is a technique that was featured in High Times a few months ago. What they did was turn off the lights for 3 days and fed with water chilled in the fridge. The idea is that the plants think the end of the world is coming, they "panic" and go into overdrive. They say it improves taste, aroma, weight and strength. I can't say anything about weight, but it definitely improved aroma, taste and strength (I took a bud just before stress ripening my last grow, the difference was notable).
I modified the technique slightly because in JC's Ultimate grow dvd, he recommended 3 days without water before harvesting, to speed up drying. So I did the cold water leading up to the dark period and then no water during the dark period. I don't know if my way of doing it is better or worse than the High Times way, but it worked. It is worth a google, lots of people have tried it and the general concensus seems to be that it works.
I really like Coco, although I have never grown in anything else. Growing friends of mine recommended it to me, it seems so much easier than soil. I am surprised that you say you had to be careful with overwatering though, one of the benefits of coco is that it is hard to overwater, it maintains 23% air even when wet. You have to be careful at the start (I think it is to stop overfeeding rather than overwatering), but once my girls were 2 weeks old I was watering till runoff.
Your answer is coming in a bit mate, I am going to scan a feed schedule for you and my girls wanted a drink 15 minutes ago.Quote:
=xxMrGreenThumbx
I think I am going to try Co Co next grow just have to keep it away from the dogs it will kill them if they eat it, atleast thats what I was told
[quote=PhatJay]I don't have any special skills, I think it is the coco, plants love it.
Glad you like my ladies, I checked out your grow, I wish I had your lights!
I really like Coco, although I have never grown in anything else. Growing friends of mine recommended it to me, it seems so much easier than soil. I am surprised that you say you had to be careful with overwatering though, one of the benefits of coco is that it is hard to overwater, it maintains 23% air even when wet. You have to be careful at the start (I think it is to stop overfeeding rather than overwatering), but once my girls were 2 weeks old I was watering till runoff.QUOTE]
Thanks PhatJay....this is my first time with LED's and so far I'm loving them! It was a costly investment, but will pay for itself in just a few harvests. I'm saving alot on energy and not worrying all the time about heat has been a huge relief! :jointsmile:
Coco has been good to me, still working out the quirks of ph balancing. I just ordered a ph pen so that should end that problem. I just notice that with the coco you don't have to water nearly as often. I'm watering once a week with nutes and once a week with water and molasses. I think because with the LED's there is no heat sucking up the moisture. All in all it's been a great experience!
I will definately think about trying the cold ph water before the dark period. You'll have to let us know how those babies smoke! :jointsmile:
I must admit that I don't measure outgoing PH, I just make sure that what goes in is 5.8. My plants drink around 25% more water on a really hot day and pot size has an effect on watering frequency aswell, I use 10" pots and water everyday, Weezard uses larger pots and waters every 3/4 days.Quote:
Originally Posted by moody420
your girls definately love the coco ! I think you should create a thread on growing with cfls and coco - I for one would probably convert to coco if i had an indepth schedule to follow. Share you knowledge (if ya got time) :jointsmile:
Keep it up mate
I havn't heard that, so I don't know. Coco is just ground up coconut shells, I don't see how that could kill a dog. Dogs have very strong stomach acid, they eat other dogs poop and all sorts of other nastiness.Quote:
Originally Posted by COOLWHIP
I think someone messaged the ops asking for a seperate coco thread. I have to scan in a schedule for Greenthumb, so I will scan in the schedule I am working to as well, it's really easy to follow, like painting by numbers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charbud
Ill keep an eye out for it on your thread when you post it. When are you harvesting ? Whats your estimated dry weight ? :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by PhatJay
...or, going to get around to doing, soon, as soon as real life stops p!ssing m3 0ff :)
I have heard that it needs some nutrients boosted, but if ya just soak the airy stuph regularly with what they need, and make sure the ph is correct, how can a plant hate that?
Looking great, mon. How many lumens are you getting off those CFLs, and from what bulbs? (forgive me for being lazy--I promise to search the thread as soon as I post this ;) )
Fabulous. REP+
I have added them to my Album, I will post them in this thread later.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charbud
I am harvesting on day 77, I'm hoping for the same as last time (130g total dry weight), but I think I may get less, the secondary buds havn't filled out as well this time. The mother these came from is from the same family as my last grow, but has poorer genetics.
They are not very powerful, only 5U each and I run two of them. They are 125w CFL's made by Eco-Light.Quote:
Originally Posted by CovertCarpenter
I am growing in Canna Coco, it is a hydroponic medium. I started adding PK at week 5 and stopped 2 weeks before harvest. According to the schedule I am going to post up for you, this also applies to soil.Quote:
Originally Posted by xxMrGreenThumbx
My plants are Sativa yours are Indica (judging by the broad leaves) Indicas mature faster than Sativas (Sativas can take up to 13 weeks depending on the strain). I think 49 days flower is too early, but thats just my opinion from looking at other grow logs, I don't recall seeing any successful log that flowered for less than 63 days. The grow shop that produces the schedules in my album don't even have a schedule with less than 9 weeks on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by xxMrGreenThumbx
You are able to see the Trichs I think you need to make this decision based on what you see and your gut instinct.
Here is a grow schedule for you, It is produced by my local grow shop and they have a REALLY good reputation for giving good advice. I am not saying this is the best feeding schedule in the world, but if you follow it, you will get good results and you can use it as a base for experimentation.
If you are flowering for more than 9 weeks you add weeks between weeks 5 and 6. I'm not sure what you are supposed to do if you flower for less (maybe remove weeks between 5 and 6?) Not all these products are necessary to produce good results.
thank u so much 4 takin the tym out 2 scan dat. Yea its indica mate.. So it 6 weeks 2moro.. Yea i fink i giv it anuva 2 weeks? Wt wud u recomend? I go on holiday wednds day 4 2 weeks so i dno wt 2 do u fink dere b ok? I gt sum1 waterin em jst about harvest.. ? Ow ur plants doin.. And it ok 2 add ppk 4 3 weeks? I keep 2 dis guide on me nxt grow.. Thnks agen mate x
Thanks a lot Jay, appreciate you took the time to post it up for us. Also, 130g dry of 2 125w cfls ! That sure is something. My first grow i got around 8 grams per plant. Really goes to show what a good feeding schedule can do with cfls. I doubt you could achieve 130g easily with a 250 hps but with 250 cfl !!! madness. Well ye thanks for uploading it and will def give it a go next grow, one question though, which nutrients did you use out of the ones on the schedule ? Cheers
redonkulous... shit looks tight jay!!! like the other guy i hope i have 1/2 the luck you do.
Hopefully you were looking at the schedules in my Coco album and not the soil one I posted up for GreenThumb. This is the schedule I follow when using Canna nutes in Coco...Quote:
Originally Posted by Charbud
http://boards.cannabis.com/members/p...od-results.jpg
Canna Hydro Feeding Schedule - This is the schedule I use to grow in Coco. I am using slightly smaller doses of nutrients than in this schedule. I use this schedule for timing rather than dosages. This is because the grow shop that produces these schedules, recommends using 75% dosage when using hydro nutes in Coco.
I also don't use all the products listed. Currently I do not use Rhizotonic, Trichoderma or Canna Flush. I also plan to ditch Cannaboost as it is very expensive. My grow log contains details of what nutes and dosages I use. I am only on my second grow and still experimenting, but I don't think you can go far wrong if you follow this schedule, it is a great base for experimentation.
If you are flowering for more than 9 weeks you add weeks between weeks 5 and 6. Not all these products are necessary to produce good results.
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This is the chart for using Canna Coco nutes in Coco, it varies slightly from the schedule I use.
http://boards.cannabis.com/members/p...od-results.jpg
If you are flowering for more than 9 weeks you add weeks between weeks 5 and 6. Not all these products are necessary to produce good results.
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And finally.... This is their Ultimate Coco Feeding Schedule, using what they consider to be the best nutes from different companies.
http://boards.cannabis.com/members/p...od-results.jpg
If you are flowering for more than 9 weeks you add weeks between weeks 5 and 6. Not all these products are necessay to produce good results.
No problem, I posted my full reply in your thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by xxMrGreenThumbx
Thanks :DQuote:
Originally Posted by rikb631
I started watering with refridgerated water today, I will use this for the next 2 waterings and then switch the lights off for 3 days.
Both my plants are struggling to stand up, I spoke to the guy I got my cuttings from and he had the same problem, this strain stretches a bit and has weak stems. Over the last week I have had to tie up some of the secondary buds and 3 of the main colas to prevent them falling over. I have mainly been tying up the buds by the doors, most of the secondary buds are being propped up by the sides of my cabinet. I think I am going to have to cut them down inside the cabinet when I harvest. If I try to take them out, they are just going to collapse and I dont want carpet fluff all over my lovely buds.
I checked the trichomes tonight with a microscope and I have about 1% amber trichs, so it looks like I am going to get a soaring high again, instead of the couch lock I was aiming for. Probably for the best really, my last crop was a "get things done" creative type of high, if I had loads of couch lock weed I wouldn't do anything. :D
The camera battery gave out mid-way through taking pics so this is all I have for you....
(click for hi-res versions)
Top of main cola (Plant D)
http://imgur.com/5tZ5Il.jpg
Close up of one of the colas on Plant E
http://imgur.com/fxpSrl.jpg
looks very good man... i hadnt heard of the water technique you used but i did a lil more search on it and i think i will be trying it. im curious to know what your dried harvest will be cause this will be my first batch with quality nutes and quality soil and no problems with heat, my previous batchs never harvested much wieght but had tons of thc content and is sativa as well.
mate ur plants r sexc.. Wtz the smell lyk? Good luk wif the harvest.. U nno wt u gna gro nxt? I nikd abit ov bud of me plant.. Tis a nyc smoke.. Da high wen u get up and do fings is gud .. U prefer it? Or the couchlok stoned? Hope ur kool mate x
Not as far as I am aware, lots and lots of people have tried SR, no one has anything bad to say about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by xxMrGreenThumbx
They smell like gods vagina.Quote:
Originally Posted by xxMrGreenThumbx
Not sure what I am going to grow next, but it will be a different strain with better genetics. Maybe Bubble Cheese or White Rhino, as I can get cuttings for both these strains.
I like both kinds of high, depends what situation I am in.
I seem to recall you saying that you are going on holiday tomorrow, hope you have a good one. :thumbsup:
Cheers G13, I had a little look at your girls, very nice.:jointsmile: Just google Stress Ripening if you want to know more about the technique or feel free to ask and I will tell you what little I know. I altered the technique slightly to incorporate a dry period.Quote:
Originally Posted by G13budsmoker
Phatjay, need little bit of your great knowledge (again) !
Ok, plan is to have a veg cabinet and flower cabinet. In the veg cabinet, a 300w blue spec cfl, in the flower room i was going to have 6 42w cfls but i dont know how to wire them so what do you think to either 2 X125w or 3X125w ? I plan on running say six small plants every two weeks to get a constant harvest. These plants wouldnt be big, only vegged to 2-3 inches in small pots (going on the Dr.Bud principles). I know you have experience with the 125s so do you think they would be up to the job to do 6-12 x 2-3 inchers or possibly more ? The reason i was going to have 6X42w was to spread the light out equally but if 2 x 125ws will do the deal i will change my mind ! Bit of topic but you are in the uk, one of ur pics was with baked beans i think ? Lookin forward to the join harvest day haha :D
It's funny you mention this, because after seeing that SOG continuous harvest grow I was thinking of doing pretty much the same! Except I was planning on having a mother plant to make my own cuttings/clones. As you probably already know, the smaller bulbs are more efficient and cheaper, so I was going to look into using household bulbs as well. I have already bought the fittings for the larger screw in bulbs we use and they are easier to wire up than a plug. I need to look into the prices for the fittings and/or splitters for household bulbs myself. I am moving home very soon, which has put my plans on hold, if I wasn't moving I would already have my next plants vegged and ready to go into flower.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charbud
As far as whether or not 125w will be enough for 6 small (well tiny really) plants, I will have more of an idea after I harvest and weigh "Four Tops" colas. Doing a SOG like Dr.Bud is effectively just growing main colas. I also need to read DrBuds thread in more detail, I just skimmed it the first time I read it.
If the cost of fittings and household bulbs is more than the 125w lights, I was thinking of having 1x125w 2700k for every 6 plants (I don't think a 125w would be enough for 12) in my flower room (18 plants in total, seperated by 3 or 4 weeks) and just 1x125w 6500k for the veg room. A friend of mine keeps a mother plant, so I was going to speak with him about what I need for that side of things. All this might change when I do a bit more research though, moving home is chewing up a lot of my time at the moment (so many things to organise!) and I can't really dedicate too much of my time to growing.
I will update you as soon as I have done a little more research and I will smoke a phat jay of my trimmings in your honour on harvest day. :rastasmoke:
Ye, i wanted to have a mother as well but wanted to give it a rial run before i started making clones which i have never done before. The biggest wattage on a cfl in the uk is around 25w(household spiral bulb). From my research i cant find any y splitters from the uk only from hong kong ! I have also seen these 3 bulb vanity lights which are pretty much a board with 3 bulb sockets and a plug but only from the states..it so frustrating finding stuff from the uk !Quote:
Originally Posted by PhatJay
I only got about half way through it making notes, its a good 50 pages long !Quote:
Originally Posted by PhatJay
I'd suggest his first grow as its less bulbs and less plants, his larger one is around 20 cfls or something.
Ye the reason i thought of the 125w lights were they are pretty safe and don't rely on my wiring, im very wary of causing eletrical fires and my inexperience in electrics doesn't help my cause !Quote:
Originally Posted by PhatJay
I will do also, very much lookin forward to it :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by PhatJay