Husband with MS wants to move to NM

Hey, can anyone tell me what the average cost is for medical mj? I get ideas from other states but I know each one is different.

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Originally Posted by grfxdsnr

I appreciate your input and will take it into consideration. I believe the climate is warmer in NM than in Colorado. My husbands ms acts up pretty bad due to cold and snow and the winters here in Illinois are BRUTAL to say the least. This is one of the reasons we are choosing NM. They may have the cold but the winter duration is much less than Illinois for sure. We don't even see 50-60 degrees until April, maybe May. LOL

You bring up a valid point about his meds. He cannot go without his medicine that's for sure. But from what everyone is saying here, Albuquerque is not an issue for getting meds or going without. Plus, hubby will grow some of his own to make up for the loss if there is one.

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I'm not trying to put you off Alb., But it can get pretty darn cold here too. Alb. is a mile above sea level, so you have to consider that.

On the other hand, the summers can get pretty hot too. I'm not talking Phoenix hot, but being a mile up there isn't as much atmosphere blocking the rays of the sun. It don't take long to get a sun burn when you are out in the open. Also it is dry here. You may want to keep plenty of lotion on hand. Many people have problems with dry skin here.

Most of the time in the winter, even if it is cold, if you are in the sun you can keep kind of warm. That is if the wind isn't blowing. Speaking of wind, we get some pretty bad dust storms here too. Some times you wouldn't want to go out side cause it can sting your skin.

Other than that it isn't bad. I guess every place has its draw backs and good points. I would say the good out weighs the bad here in Albuquerque.

There's my take on it with out a suger coat.

peace :cool:

Pepurr pretty much nailed it! The "windy season" is a royal pain in the butt! NM evenings make up for that though....it is VERY nice to be able to sit out on the patio/deck after the sun sets in the summer time.

I also like the fact that there are essentially no mosquitoes here in ABQ either!

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Originally Posted by Sandia

Pepurr pretty much nailed it! The "windy season" is a royal pain in the butt! NM evenings make up for that though....it is VERY nice to be able to sit out on the patio/deck after the sun sets in the summer time.

I also like the fact that there are essentially no mosquitoes here in ABQ either!

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Oh yeah! No mosquitoes! I have never been bitten by one here. I was born and raised in Florida, and have been bitten by them darn things hundreds of times if not thousands.

Down in the south east you have to worry about a lot of nasty diseases transmitted by them. Here you don't have to worry about that. Just don't get bitten by a flea. They do carry the bubonic plague here. Luck would have it that it is easily cured by antibiotics.

Alright, don't start with the "critter" thing! I am already a little freaked by it all. I can handle just about any bug but those centipedes are brutal looking! Please tell me they aren't that bad in the Albquerque area. :what:

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Coolslayer...Ruidoso is BEAUTIFUL....and kind of has the "downs" (racing that is...LOL)!

;):):thumbsup:

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Yeah,there is that.Good call.

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Originally Posted by PufferLungs

Sounds to me like the laws are more strict and there could be a shortage of medicine in NM. My suggestion that they consider Colorado was relevant to the discussion. It is in relatively the same geographical location as NM. The weather and climate is very similar to that of NM. The landscape and scenery are also very similar to what you will find in NM. The laws in Colorado appear to be much more relaxed as well. Trust me when I tell you there's no shortage of medicine at the dispensaries in Colorado.

I think I've made my point, but I don't want to hijack the thread, so I will excuse myself now. To the OP, I do hope you and your husband find a suitable state in which to live. MS is a terrible disease and you have my sympathies.
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There may not be as much available medicine here as in colorado,but we also aren't having dispensary robberies and municipalities fighting against dispensaries.

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Originally Posted by grfxdsnr

Hey, can anyone tell me what the average cost is for medical mj? I get ideas from other states but I know each one is different.

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It depends on the amount and which Producer that you obtain it from.

The centipedes arn't that bad. Except the ones over 3 feet long. They get a little hostile then :stoned:

Just kidding. I haven't seen the first centipedes, and I haven't seen any roaches here as well. Look out for the Jackalope though. They like to sneak up on you when you're bent over and use their sharp horns to gore you in the fanny. :D

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

You gotta luv this state. Just ask our 2 last govners. HA!!! I jest. Where in ILLinois you live? Me I live west of chicago. You? Technically I believe ILLinois has had medical marijuana on the book since i believe 1979. Illinois depart. of health never did anything with it though.. Only took 30 years........

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Originally Posted by PufferLungs

Sounds to me like the laws are more strict and there could be a shortage of medicine in NM. My suggestion that they consider Colorado was relevant to the discussion. It is in relatively the same geographical location as NM. The weather and climate is very similar to that of NM. The landscape and scenery are also very similar to what you will find in NM. The laws in Colorado appear to be much more relaxed as well. Trust me when I tell you there's no shortage of medicine at the dispensaries in Colorado.

I think I've made my point, but I don't want to hijack the thread, so I will excuse myself now. To the OP, I do hope you and your husband find a suitable state in which to live. MS is a terrible disease and you have my sympathies.
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You said in your first post that you didnt know anything about New Mexico and it is showing. Colorado and New Mexico are in very different geographical locations...thus the differing names. The climates are night and day different because the altitude and lattitude is much different. Colorado shares a climate and topography with Utah and Wyoming. New Mexico shares similarity with Arizona and Nevada.

The culture, the terrain and the whole way of thinking is like night and day. The only thing Colorado and New Mexico share in common are the Sangre De Cristo's and the Castillian influence in the North (your South).

So you can tell us about Colorado if you would like! But please dont tell us about New Mexico.

You are correct about New Mexico's MMJ laws. Our MMJ program was not really a stab at legalization under the guise of medical cannabis. It was more about finding a workable way to allow usage in a society that is generally conservative, hispanic, and religious. Dispensaries just wont work here. This state is more than just the Albuquerque/Santa Fe area. It is mostly farms and ranches and dairies. Tiny communities in the mountains and valleys. Old timers and small families and lots of rural living. THAT is New Mexico.

Folks in the cities think of dispensaries in California as being the answer to medical cannabis. That would mean HUGE problems along the border, and HUGE resistance from the largely rural population. A quiet controlled system is needed or it WILL BE SHUT DOWN.

People here never have given a rats asss about smoking pot...hell lots of people smoke it. Posession of less than 8 ounces is a misdemeanor, and only one ounce is a slap on the wrist. New Mexico has always been lenient on smokers. People dont care as long as they dont see it or smell it.

Many states are looking at our model. It is really good! Once producers get going and more enter the picture it will work good. Everyone will have access (hopefully), more conditions can be added, and it all can be controlled in a way that it does not interrupt the "New Mexican" lifestyle.

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You gotta luv this state. Just ask our 2 last govners. HA!!! I jest. Where in ILLinois you live? Me I live west of chicago. You? Technically I believe ILLinois has had medical marijuana on the book since i believe 1979. Illinois depart. of health never did anything with it though..

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I am out by Sandwich, south of Dekalb. Illinois is the slowest damn state in the whole US if you ask me about getting it legalized. It passed the Senate last year. Last time I tuned in to watch the House they were arguing over Madigan calling them names. It's like highschool in there! :mad:

I wrote Pritchard about it and haven't heard back. I reminded him that we voted them in and instead of sitting around arguing, how about working? Now that's a concept eh? :D

All the House has to do is debate and vote. Ackkk, it will die in the house most likely. Quinn already said he'd consider it. Yeah, like I am sure that's all he's worried about. :rolleyes:

Oh and by the way New Mexico and Colorado, I suggested Illinois look at your states for some ideas. So, wear your Sunday best and smile! :rasta:

Like the Doc! Now that's funny. I don't care who you are.

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Originally Posted by pepurr

I live in Bernalillo and love it. The people are very friendly. Bernalillo is a quite town. You seldom hear a siren, and crime is almost non-existent. Albuquerque is a short drive away. If you don't want to drive, you can take the Railrunner.

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NO! NOT BERNALILLO!!! According to my friend in Rio Rancho there are brujas in Bernalillo. :p

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Originally Posted by Totah Sam

NO! NOT BERNALILLO!!! According to my friend in Rio Rancho there are brujas in Bernalillo. :p

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Your friend is right. The wicked brujas of the west lives here, and she will get you, my pretty. And your little dog too! :D

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Your friend is right. The wicked brujas of the west lives here, and she will get you, my pretty. And your little dog too! :D

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Noooooooooooo! Not the dog!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by DrNick

You gotta luv this state. Just ask our 2 last govners. HA!!! I jest. Where in ILLinois you live? Me I live west of chicago. You? Technically I believe ILLinois has had medical marijuana on the book since i believe 1979. Illinois depart. of health never did anything with it though.. Only took 30 years........

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Kinda like arizona.

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Originally Posted by bedrockbob

You said in your first post that you didnt know anything about New Mexico and it is showing. Colorado and New Mexico are in very different geographical locations...thus the differing names. The climates are night and day different because the altitude and lattitude is much different. Colorado shares a climate and topography with Utah and Wyoming. New Mexico shares similarity with Arizona and Nevada.

The culture, the terrain and the whole way of thinking is like night and day. The only thing Colorado and New Mexico share in common are the Sangre De Cristo's and the Castillian influence in the North (your South).

So you can tell us about Colorado if you would like! But please dont tell us about New Mexico.

You are correct about New Mexico's MMJ laws. Our MMJ program was not really a stab at legalization under the guise of medical cannabis. It was more about finding a workable way to allow usage in a society that is generally conservative, hispanic, and religious. Dispensaries just wont work here. This state is more than just the Albuquerque/Santa Fe area. It is mostly farms and ranches and dairies. Tiny communities in the mountains and valleys. Old timers and small families and lots of rural living. THAT is New Mexico.

Folks in the cities think of dispensaries in California as being the answer to medical cannabis. That would mean HUGE problems along the border, and HUGE resistance from the largely rural population. A quiet controlled system is needed or it WILL BE SHUT DOWN.

People here never have given a rats asss about smoking pot...hell lots of people smoke it. Posession of less than 8 ounces is a misdemeanor, and only one ounce is a slap on the wrist. New Mexico has always been lenient on smokers. People dont care as long as they dont see it or smell it.

Many states are looking at our model. It is really good! Once producers get going and more enter the picture it will work good. Everyone will have access (hopefully), more conditions can be added, and it all can be controlled in a way that it does not interrupt the "New Mexican" lifestyle.

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That is what I wanted to say,but I'm not that good with words.Good post!

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Originally Posted by grfxdsnr

Noooooooooooo! Not the dog!!!!!!

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That's not a dog. It's a chupacabra. :giggity:

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Originally Posted by grfxdsnr

I am out by Sandwich, south of Dekalb. Illinois is the slowest damn state in the whole US if you ask me about getting it legalized. It passed the Senate last year. Last time I tuned in to watch the House they were arguing over Madigan calling them names. It's like highschool in there! :mad:

I wrote Pritchard about it and haven't heard back. I reminded him that we voted them in and instead of sitting around arguing, how about working? Now that's a concept eh? :D

All the House has to do is debate and vote. Ackkk, it will die in the house most likely. Quinn already said he'd consider it. Yeah, like I am sure that's all he's worried about. :rolleyes:

Oh and by the way New Mexico and Colorado, I suggested Illinois look at your states for some ideas. So, wear your Sunday best and smile! :rasta:

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First off, every time I have been to New Mexico she has had on her Sunday best.:thumbsup: Very beautiful and friendly.
Second...I don't think the gov't (state or fed) actually knows how to work. Unless you grease their palm, know what I mean?
I do commend you for telling Mr. Pritchard that.:clap: About voting him in and such. Hopefully someday these people sitting in the cushy chair will realize it takes votes to have that cushy chair. I think it is time to clean "house", so to speak. ;) Just my humble opinion.
Btw...my brother lives in Dekalb. Ever been to Otto's?

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Btw...my brother lives in Dekalb. Ever been to Otto's?

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No we haven't but I am sure my two boys have been. One just graduated NIU and the youngest next year.

Cool!

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Originally Posted by DrNick

That's not a dog. It's a chupacabra. :giggity:

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We don't have el chupacabra in New Mexico. We have coyotes with mange. ;)

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Originally Posted by Totah Sam

We don't have el chupacabra in New Mexico. We have coyotes with mange. ;)

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Actually, El Chupacabra struck in Chaparral, New Mexico just a few months ago. Killed a bunch of chickens and scared the shit out of the populace. This critter lives in El Paso and I have seen him many times.

And La Llorona, too! And that big pterodactyl thing they see over by Hobbs and Artesia. We just CANT leave out aliens in Roswell, the Taos hum, the alien base in the mountain at Dulce, UFO's in Aztec, the excorcism at Abiquiu, giant catfish in Elephant Butte and the 12 foot rattlesnakes in Deming. Las Alamos experiments, the secret facilities at White Sands, the "Green Lights", Foo Fighters, and the treasure of Victorio Peak.

Man the list goes on...those are just the few that come to me through the smoky haze...

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Actually, El Chupacabra struck in Chaparral, New Mexico just a few months ago. Killed a bunch of chickens and scared the shit out of the populace. This critter lives in El Paso and I have seen him many times.

And La Llorona, too! And that big pterodactyl thing they see over by Hobbs and Artesia. We just CANT leave out aliens in Roswell, the Taos hum, the alien base in the mountain at Dulce, UFO's in Aztec, the excorcism at Abiquiu, giant catfish in Elephant Butte and the 12 foot rattlesnakes in Deming. Las Alamos experiments, the secret facilities at White Sands, the "Green Lights", Foo Fighters, and the treasure of Victorio Peak.

Man the list goes on...those are just the few that come to me through the smoky haze...

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Holy crap. I didn't realize NM had so much to offer. I gotta check out that pterodactyl thing next time I'm in the neighborhood. Sounds spookily cool. Hopefully soon.:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by bedrockbob

Colorado and New Mexico are in very different geographical locations...thus the differing names.

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I always wondered why they were not the same.
That's funny!!! :pimp:

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Originally Posted by Totah Sam

We don't have el chupacabra in New Mexico. We have coyotes with mange. ;)

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That's not a coyote with mange, that's my ex-wife.

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Originally Posted by bedrockbob

Actually, El Chupacabra struck in Chaparral, New Mexico just a few months ago. Killed a bunch of chickens and scared the shit out of the populace. This critter lives in El Paso and I have seen him many times.

And La Llorona, too! And that big pterodactyl thing they see over by Hobbs and Artesia. We just CANT leave out aliens in Roswell, the Taos hum, the alien base in the mountain at Dulce, UFO's in Aztec, the excorcism at Abiquiu, giant catfish in Elephant Butte and the 12 foot rattlesnakes in Deming. Las Alamos experiments, the secret facilities at White Sands, the "Green Lights", Foo Fighters, and the treasure of Victorio Peak.

Man the list goes on...those are just the few that come to me through the smoky haze...

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You left out Skinwalkers and the San Juan County Bigfoot. The Thunderbird has been seen outside of Gallup and umm.. there's the giant snake that's being seen on the Navajo Reservation. The Brujas of Bernalillo. Not to be outdone, we have the living Kachinas that run around the pueblo tribes.

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Originally Posted by Totah Sam

You left out Skinwalkers and the San Juan County Bigfoot. The Thunderbird has been seen outside of Gallup and umm.. there's the giant snake that's being seen on the Navajo Reservation. The Brujas of Bernalillo. Not to be outdone, we have the living Kachinas that run around the pueblo tribes.

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Sam,

I wasn't going to mention those knowing where you come from...especially Skinwalkers. I know a hell of a lot of people who freak out if you whistle at night!

I live near Pecos and the giant snake was a big legend. They say the Pecos peoples always had a fire going to keep it away, and their fire still burns in San Ysidro where the last puebloans went. The snake was supposed to have slithered away years ago. Maybe it went to the Dine country.

It is good to hear someone that knows the stories of the region. I think it is important part of "being a part of" an area. Especially here where there is so much magic, spirituality, history, and just plain strangeness.

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I always wondered why they were not the same.
That's funny!!! :pimp:

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Cool!

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Originally Posted by bedrockbob

Cool!

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I am changing it as of now it is.....
Chilly Willy like the Penguin!! :D

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Sam,

I wasn't going to mention those knowing where you come from...especially Skinwalkers. I know a hell of a lot of people who freak out if you whistle at night!

I live near Pecos and the giant snake was a big legend. They say the Pecos peoples always had a fire going to keep it away, and their fire still burns in San Ysidro where the last puebloans went. The snake was supposed to have slithered away years ago. Maybe it went to the Dine country.

It is good to hear someone that knows the stories of the region. I think it is important part of "being a part of" an area. Especially here where there is so much magic, spirituality, history, and just plain strangeness.

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I grew up on and around the Navajo Nation and I have tons of Navajo relatives. I could tell you some personal experiences with skinwalkers but I wouldn't want to scare ya. :P I don't whistle at night. I know better.

Hey Sandy,

We're originally from Illinois also and moved here for the hubby's health (altitude and dryness helps his condition).

I don't know which part of Illinois you're from, or what you do for a living, but we underwent a big culture shock when we moved. My salary is half what I was making there doing the same job, and hubby took a $10/hr pay cut while he was able to work (he's totally disabled now).

Houses cost what they do in Chicago and suburbs, namely about $150K for a small, decent one. Lots cost $50K and up if you want to build.

It's also hard to grow things here. The soil has little organic material and is salty. It is much easier to grow 'medicine' back home, where soil is fertile and the air has some moisture in it...but it can be done here if you garden, or grow inside.

Lots here have retaining walls around them for the most part, some of these walls are tall already or can be built taller. We were approved to grow based on this and the other plants we are growing in our yard, namely tall, dense stuff like sunflowers, Jerusalem artichokes and corn. No one can see what's in the middle. LOL. Also a big dog is an asset.

If you have a good job already in Illinois, consider moving someplace rural, and private, and staying there. You can work in Chicago, and 40 miles away, have a home in the middle of nowhere and still be close enough to commute. Definitely don't move until you have a job or other income source lined up here. You can't buy 'medicine' if you don't have any money. Schools are bad here also (google it).

The doctors here are VERY reluctant to sign applications, even though they are only verifying that the patient can benefit from the program, not supplying anything. Houses are expensive, and jobs don't pay well. The air is dry and your skin will itch. LOL... We have yet to find good pizza or poorboys, and they put green chili on EVERYTHING, which can be a either a good or a bad thing. One of the good things, you won't have to mow, but if you DO have a lawn, you'll have to water it twice a day, and resod every 3 yrs or so.

Let me know if you'd like to chat further. I will be moving back to Illinois when the hubby passes. Weather-wise, its MUCH nicer here than Illinois. I haven't seen the temp drop to zero yet in the winter, the ground doesn't freeze, and there are only a few days in the summer above 100...not to mention that there is NO humidity in the summer, and few tornados, but I desparately miss the green landscape, the higher pay and cheaper housing.

Hey Ladylunch thanks for the info! A couple of things. Jim is medically retired through the military and receives a pension so we're good on that end. I stay home to be his caregiver. Kids are grown, etc. Just me, Jim, the cat and dog. We currently own so hopefully we'll make enough off this house to put down on another. I have a plan to be mortgage free in five years. It can be done!

As far as growing, I would grow hydro most likely.

And lastly, no way am I ever going to move back to Illinois once I am gone. Born and raised here but it's lost it's loving feeling. We must separate. lol

Oh and we're also considering Colorado too. We haven't made our minds up just yet. ;)

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Hey Sandy,

We're originally from Illinois also and moved here for the hubby's health (altitude and dryness helps his condition).

I don't know which part of Illinois you're from, or what you do for a living, but we underwent a big culture shock when we moved. My salary is half what I was making there doing the same job, and hubby took a $10/hr pay cut while he was able to work (he's totally disabled now).

Houses cost what they do in Chicago and suburbs, namely about $150K for a small, decent one. Lots cost $50K and up if you want to build.

It's also hard to grow things here. The soil has little organic material and is salty. It is much easier to grow 'medicine' back home, where soil is fertile and the air has some moisture in it...but it can be done here if you garden, or grow inside.

Lots here have retaining walls around them for the most part, some of these walls are tall already or can be built taller. We were approved to grow based on this and the other plants we are growing in our yard, namely tall, dense stuff like sunflowers, Jerusalem artichokes and corn. No one can see what's in the middle. LOL. Also a big dog is an asset.

If you have a good job already in Illinois, consider moving someplace rural, and private, and staying there. You can work in Chicago, and 40 miles away, have a home in the middle of nowhere and still be close enough to commute. Definitely don't move until you have a job or other income source lined up here. You can't buy 'medicine' if you don't have any money. Schools are bad here also (google it).

The doctors here are VERY reluctant to sign applications, even though they are only verifying that the patient can benefit from the program, not supplying anything. Houses are expensive, and jobs don't pay well. The air is dry and your skin will itch. LOL... We have yet to find good pizza or poorboys, and they put green chili on EVERYTHING, which can be a either a good or a bad thing. One of the good things, you won't have to mow, but if you DO have a lawn, you'll have to water it twice a day, and resod every 3 yrs or so.

Let me know if you'd like to chat further. I will be moving back to Illinois when the hubby passes. Weather-wise, its MUCH nicer here than Illinois. I haven't seen the temp drop to zero yet in the winter, the ground doesn't freeze, and there are only a few days in the summer above 100...not to mention that there is NO humidity in the summer, and few tornados, but I desparately miss the green landscape, the higher pay and cheaper housing.

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It is all a matter of perspective.
I have the opposite one.
I have lived in Chicago and could not stand it.
Houses jammed together 4 feet apart.
Police who think they are gods.
It's not worth earning more money or getting good pizza.

Sounds to me like Ladylunch1 is living in the "wrong" part of the state.