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$250 is a great deal. Most dispensaries are charging $400. I never said it should be sold below cost. Most individual caregivers are doing a much better job than these dispensaries. I have lots of friends that grow, i know exactly what it takes and costs. I do expect priced to come down, and quality will go up. That is the upside of legalization.Quote:
Originally Posted by senorx12562
nice can i act like a lil kid now and point out your mis spelling? yup ohhh im a big cat now i just pointed out a misspelled word.....lameQuote:
Originally Posted by neversummer
You are a liar, or just have me seriously confused with someone else. I have never pm'ed you. I never will. Im done talking with you. Your meds cannot touch the organic Sour Star, and Crunchberry i get from my caregiver. I help provide to other patients , I make zero profit. I only do it so that other people dont have to go to dispensaries and pay high prices for crap buds. The meds i get are much better than anything you will ever see in a dispensary. I have been going to the same caregiver for 6 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
Go away . I will ignore you now.
I remember you posting about your caregiver. I'd like to try some of those meds.Quote:
Originally Posted by neversummer
And I wish you could grow oxy's in your closet. Man, I'd be rich as hell... and high.
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Originally Posted by neversummer
this was posted by you on the 14th of sept of 09 so how could you have been going to a caregiver for 6 years? you must mean you and your caregiver have been illegally dealing for the last 6 years? the same guy you have been buying from to sell at no profit ?hummm the same guy you told me was getting flaky and you needed someone more dependable?
14th sept
Got the docs signature today. Once i showed him the xray of the plate and screws in my shoulder, it was pretty simple after that. I had my papers and went to the dispensary down the street, but their medecine was pretty low quality. I hope most dispeseries accept the papers.
Props to you man. Well spoken. If you have the $$$, time, and paysical ablity to grow that is the best way to go. Prices will go down if every patient that has the ability to grow starts growing. I have helped 5 people get a recomendation since getting mine and only 1 other guy has started. The others just kind bitch and and complain until I show them my 2 plant setup. Save that 100$$ you just spent on a quarter and get a shit ton of cfl's and some clones and start to experminent. At least you can say you tried. And if you just can't get it at least you can go back to your fave. smoke shop. I just about to harvest my 1st crop and cannot be more proud.Quote:
Originally Posted by FarmerNinja
Yeah i been smoking weed long before i got my card. Got a felony on my record thats why i dont grow.Quote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
You are a homo, get my dick out your mouth. I dont wanna talk to your ignorant ass. Everyone on here knows you are a joke.
Seriously, my last response to you. Learn how to punctuate.
At least he admitted you're a homo-sapien, palerider, but who is Dick?
he's just mad that im calling him out on all his bs.he can't come up with nothing logical back. so only thing left is acting like a punk kid and name call.he has sum nerve to say anything about writing he misspelled a few himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by senorx12562
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Originally Posted by neversummer
Actually the cost of the herb in amsterdam has jumped considerably and the quality has gone way down.
I was just in amsterdam in november for the htcc and most of the herb was B to C grade at best and it was all 13-20 euro a gram....
Even the locals in amsterdam dont bother with the coffeshops...
That says it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by ColoradoCareMMJ
I was about to say the same thing. That's like $25-$40 for a gram. Nahhh!Quote:
Originally Posted by ColoradoCareMMJ
I'm sorry, but of all people, those on this site should know better than to suggest criminalizing ANY substance. Doesn't even pass the giggle test.Quote:
Originally Posted by diamante73
Its not Amsterdam's fault the dollar is weak. When i went i got 2 guilders for a dollar. 13-20 euro a gram, probably is like $6-$10 from their perspective.Quote:
Originally Posted by ColoradoCareMMJ
When i went to the cup in 99, 2000, all the weed was A grade. You need to find Soma, and smoke some of the buds he had in his closet for six months. Definatley some A grade. I smoked a lot of the strains you love, from the people who invented it.
I know a lot of people in Colorado who dont bother with dispensaries. At least the coffeshops in Amsterdam dont have to pretend they are medical , and that their "customers" are "patients." And they can smoke on premises. I guarantee if I went to Dampkring, Greenhouse, or Grey Area, they would BLOW away any Colorado dispensary. I dont remember seeing outdoor, or kiefed bud. The bubble hash from Dampkring always bubbled, and they always had it.
The problem is the dollar is tanking. Soon we will have the Amero. Say goodbye to the American economy. Especially if Obama and his communist homies have their way.
I am thankful to have my card. I have used marijuana spiritually, medically, and recreationally since i was 15 years old. I just really want it to be 100% legal and affordable for everyone.
I am tired of all these crappy, overpriced dispensaries giving medical marijuana a bad name, and taking advantage of their so called patients. I am also tired of people having to pretend to be a patient, just to smoke some weed without fear of being locked in a fucking cage.
I have been locked up for weed. I have been on probation, paid fines, pissed in a cup, and quit smoking for a year. I have carried the torch, stood up for what i believe in. I have helped others get their medicine, even when they dont have a license from the government. I just want cheap, legal weed. We are so close, im not giving up. I am making the push. I have sacrificed a lot for this, and i am going to reap the rewards. I know nothing good comes free, or easy. It has been a long battle, but its almost over. I am excited to have the chance to grow marijuana LEGALLY. After getting arrested, i never dreamed i would have the chance to grow legally. I was scared to carry an eighth around. Now i feel better. I still dont see why we cant have more than 2 ounces or six plants. Thats like saying you can only buy a six pack at the liquor store.
Legalize it!
it's called control thats why 6 plants is a joke and only 3/3 is even a bigger joke.and only having 2 useable oz's at a time is an even bigger joke.they know damn well what they are doing.first of all 3 plants is wasting electric as if you have a 1k setup lets say yes those 3 are getting most of it and thats good but you could still add more plants to that 1 k to max it out.this way you have to veg longer there for wasting electric along with all the other pumps and so on.im talking as if your growing for yourself only.Quote:
Originally Posted by neversummer
the 2 oz is a joke because they have to know that if you know what your doing you will pull more than 2 oz's off 3 plants.hell at just 1 oz per plant thats 3 right there.they had to give cops something to be able to use to bust people with. btw you should take alook at this thread.
http://boards.cannabis.com/activism/...ml#post2062904
kindda tells you where things are heading after all obama is the flip flop king.....
ps the reson liquor is like it is and so free to do as you please with is because it's leo's/gov's fav past time.can't make that illegal.
Have any of you guys ever heard the phrase:
Arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics?
Even if you win, you're still retarded.
Maybe its food for thought......
-C
just because it might sound cool don't make it true.if thats the case arguing anywhere would be the same right? sounds like freedom to me....Quote:
Originally Posted by ForgetClassC
you might want to sign this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tznR4wPeS4M
HUH?! WTF are you talking about???Quote:
Originally Posted by ColoradoCareMMJ
I just came back from Amsterdam, I was there for 5 months, and "everything was 13-20 euros per gram" is the biggest load of BS I've heard in a long time.
Prices have risen higher and quality is now lower in Amsterdam because there are so many more fucking tourists willing to spend money and smoke shit. Go anywhere else in Holland and you get great weed for 8-10 euros per gram, maybe less... Plus since the euro came into use the price of everything has gone up (and don't compare it to the dollar right now, it wasn't that long ago that the dollar was worth more than the Euro)... apples to oranges comparing US to Europe.
i paid 50 euro for an 1/8 of silver bubble at grey area..... i payed 34 euro for 2 grams of vanilla kush from barneys and this was average price everywhere i went. and most of the stuff at 8-10 euro was so bad i wouldnt want my worst enemy to smoke it....:jointsmile:
I've been to the Netherlands twice (Holland is a county). This news is very strange coming from Amsterdam. Years ago, a cafe owner went out of his way to explain to me that the Dutch were very picky about the quality of cannabis products that comes ashore. He even said they had recently turned away a whole cargo ship from China because of the low grade hashish onboard. Obviously, their standards have taken a hit since I've been there. I guess I lucked out and left without the schwag.
#2 post is still your best answer...:smokin:
These are tourist coffeeshops, no wonder you didn't see any locals there.Quote:
Originally Posted by ColoradoCareMMJ
Next time go to Dampkring or Kashmir, and 10 euros gets you very nice buds, I think 12.50 was their "top shelf". Better yet, go to Rotterdam or Utrecht.
Again, comparing Europe or Amsterdam to the US is impossible. For one, the Netherlands has significantly higher corporate wages (if we're comparing dollars to euros).
For those who don't know, Cannabis is illegal in the Netherlands! It is merely tolerated and decriminalized for small possession, and there's a fucked up law that gives coffeeshops the right to sell cannabis in small amounts. However, it is illegal for coffeeshops to purchase cannabis... yeah go figure that one out. BTW- growing is illegal too. If you are caught with 5 plants or less, they get confiscated without penalty.
Another reason for rising prices in the Netherlands is the fact that the government has been cracking down on coffeeshops (reducing in number of coffeeshops from over 1200 to now less than 800, and not giving out new licenses) as well as large grow operations for that last few years, and much of the weed that is smoked in Amsterdam and elsewhere actually comes from Germany!
Ok, rant over, the point is that there are many other factors in Amsterdam and the Netherlands which raise the prices. I believe that as long as the governments and special interests keep their hands off this industry, prices should be at least 25-50% lower in a legal establishment than on the street. But as long as medical patients and tourists are willing to dish out the cash for overpriced weed, I'll just have to grow my own :jointsmile:
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Originally Posted by bigtopsfinn
That is what i have been trying to say. You just worded it better.
When i went to Amsteradam, the weed was the same price, but the exchange rate was 1$ to 2 guilders. An eighth would cost around $25-$30 and it was always super good. I never got any weed in Amsterdam with seeds, or kiefed buds. The bubble hash alway bubbled.
Soma had the best weed back then i thought, and all his stuff went to the dampkring. I dont know anyone else who cures their weed for 6 months!
bigtopsfinn, that's one of the most interesting posts I've ever read about the Netherlands...Amazing that it's actually illegal...I never would have guessed...I hung at someplace called the grasshopper in the 'dam years ago...probably gone by now
Grasshopper's still there. :jointsmile:Quote:
Originally Posted by cornbread
Honestly the 'Amsterdam' that most people here are talking about SUCKS. It's a huge tourist trap, and the greedy businessmen know this, which is why everything is so expensive, and the service and weed are so shitty. The Cannabis Cup is the worst of them all. Most tourists don't make it past the Herengracht, which is actually where the real Amsterdam starts. The coffeeshops are fewer and farther between, but there are still some decent ones, and filled with locals.
Some of the best weed I had while I was there was from Steppin' Out in Alkmaar, called 'Big Tops' (not a strain, just a brand) - 12 euros for 1.7 grams. They also cure their buds for months before selling them. Also got some really nice White Widow in Rotterdam for 7 euros a gram. The best was the Amnesia Haze from Nemo in Rotterdam, 20 euros for 2 grams, and it blew me away every time. Cured, tasty and really great sativa.
If you plan on a trip to Amsterdam or the Netherlands, do your research! Coffeeshop Directory. And just because it's the highest price on the menu doesn't mean it's the best. Sometimes it is, sometimes it's not. Always ask to see the bud first, and ask for a few different kinds to compare. And for everyone's sake don't support these greedy bastards in Amsterdam's central district!
Yes...I'd have to agree it's a huge tourist trap but the American kids love the idea of buying pot everywhere.
I was buying some hash in a Amsterdam coffeeshop and the rasta dood behind the counter kept peeking out the window and around the corner. He did this 4-5 times in 3 minutes before I finally asked WTF he was doing. He said he was watching his car. Huh? Then he told me there's a HUGE car theft problem.
But there's just too much rain and junkies to go back a third time. Besides, pot is everywhere.
I'm glad I went to the Anna Frank Haus just before I left...
I lived 2 years in Switzerland and travelled around from there in central Europe. Next time I go, it's Ireland, England, and Italy for me...and back to Venice :smokin:
what is reson liquor ?Quote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
Stu
Who suggested criminalizing anything at all?Quote:
Originally Posted by senorx12562
Well to be honest, im only in the dam for 8-10 days at a time, and usually it is just to meet up with old friends and new associates. I really dont have enough time to beat down every shop door in the dam hoping to save a few euros per gram. I always bring my own weed and hash, and if i can find anything comparable in quality in the dam, ill usually grab a few grams of it... but usually the only thing i end up purchasing is melt from soma....:jointsmile::jointsmile:
Well that's the beauty of the internet, because you don't need to go to every door if you spend some time on that link - real reviews from real people. Unfortunately the people that go to the Dam thinking that the world's best weed is around the corner are setting themselves up for failure. And from what I've read around these boards, the same holds true for US medical marijuana.Quote:
Originally Posted by ColoradoCareMMJ
The more we talk and post about bad quality places (dispensaries, coffeeshops), the less there will be. Let's put all these $hitheads out of business by the spreading the word... and da herb :rastasmoke:
It was in the post from ColoradoCareMMJ that you quoted yourself at the top of page 3 of this thread. Didn't you read what you quoted and agreed with?Quote:
Originally Posted by diamante73
There was an NPR piece a day or two ago regarding legalization the its effect on prices. The upshot is that most people overestimate the reduction in price that legalization would create as well as the tax revenue legalization would generate.Quote:
Originally Posted by NPR
It's called a double standard SenorX :D. Our nations biggest hypocrisy. Everyone wants our government to "help" starving and suffering people and would happily claim support for such a program. However when asked about being taxed to help those people they are ALL against it!Quote:
Originally Posted by senorx12562
In this case, people suggest criminalizing alcohol, thinking it absurd, thus not an actual suggestion on a conscious level, thus NOT believing they suggested it at all! :wtf:
I'm not trying to insult your intelligence either SenorX. I just enjoy opening eyes. When THEY read this,.. maybe THEY will realise what they said, and agreed on. Without ever realising what they said in the first place.
We should NEVER suggest more regulation in ANY way. Our government is happy to lock us up and criminalize everything. It's currently estimated that EVERY American breaks an average of 80 laws per day! :eek: However so many of our laws are buried in bureaucracy not even our police or even lawyers know them all. However if need be, almost anyone can be charged and/or ticketed for something if the need arises (in the eyes of the leos).:mad:
I think the law should simply say,... You're NOT allowed to hurt other people physically, emotionally or fiscally!:thumbsup:
If you break THE law you have a jury trial to determine your punishment.
THAT'S ALL THE LAWS WE NEED! Plus laying down a few rules for safe driving. :thumbsup: Which kills more people then just about anything.
Ballsy.Quote:
Originally Posted by ColoradoCareMMJ
I guess you don't get searched too hard coming INTO the Dam! But the days of nutsack stash are coming to an end. Goddamn underwear bomber!
He meant to say the REASON liquor is legal... Not resin liquor lol. Although, I've had THC infused alcohol before though- it was called a tincture. Took a shot, and it tasted like crap, but the combo of the body buzz and the warm feeling of the shot was pretty nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by stuartambient
I think all you have to do is soak bud in alcohol and then strain it... the alcohol strips the THC from the bud if im not mistaken. might be worth a try. :thumbsup:
I guess I made the mistake of expecting of others that which I do of myself, to say what you mean and mean what you say. My bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vancefish
that world is gone my friend.:cool:sad but true...Quote:
Originally Posted by senorx12562
You've got my vote. When elected can I be your Marijuana Minister... Part of the Cannabis Cabinet of President Vance? :thumbsup:Quote:
I think the law should simply say,... You're NOT allowed to hurt other people physically, emotionally or fiscally!
If you break THE law you have a jury trial to determine your punishment.
THAT'S ALL THE LAWS WE NEED! Plus laying down a few rules for safe driving. Which kills more people then just about anything.
to give away 'FREE MJ', doesn't mean you are to supply the whole town :wtf: , but, if every grower just took care of a couple legitimate medical patients that can't grow their own, (like most of my circle of friends), most needs would be taken care of ... (not bad, coming from a conservative capitalist, eh ?) :smokin:
I didn't really know where to put this but i thought this should be considered a joke as well so here goes...
I recently found out that The Grow Stores owner (the ones located on federal and colfax) was upset with his lack of profit and teamed up with Hydrofarm to track down his theoretical losses. They found out that resourceful growers were using their connections to order their equipment through garden distribution centers and the like in a completely legal manner. The Grow Store owner ( lets refer to him as Douchy McDoucherstien from now out for ease) was upset that his wall of 400% markup ballasts that was disapearing at an alarming rate wasn't quite going fast enough. I'm talking about selling 400+ ballasts a month and tripling his initial investment. Dont get me wrong. I love to see Capitalism in action, its a disgustingly beautiful thing. The problem is that Douchy McDoucherstien went to hydrofarm to point out that many of the people using the garden centers were using them to supply a garden of an illicitly delicious nature I.E. MMJ growing. He somehow failed to mention that his resourceful institutions have somehow cornered that market through the use of a profound lack of knowledge and his employees affinity for Methamphetamines( how else do they get so shady looking?) Its interesting to me that a store that has been around for it seems like ever is having problems with its gross sales. I wonder if its due to the fact that he taxes the shit out of the consumer while selling the consumer a product supposedly designed for indoor hydroponic tomato growing. Have you seen the tomatoes grown in there store? Besides being infested with spider mites ( "Oh, This bottle of Azatrol at 109.99$ + tax will definetely cure that! MSRP being 106.95$ Price to Douchy being less then $70 Trust me i have his distrubution prices) they look like the retarded baby that would come out of the prom queen and kings consumation of their love, in the back of a Kia, after drinking Mad Dogg 20/20 through the course of her pregnancy. The worst part about it is that Hydrofarm is playing the part of the cliche' dumb older football playing brother, protecting poor Douchy McDoucherstien's precious precious profits. Is this the Communist threat that Joseph McCarthy spoke so scarily about? It seems that if other distrubution centers are fine with selling more product at a reduced price, then they should naturally pull ahead of the capitalistic curve ( Reference McDonalds slightly less then meat Hamburgers and their domination). Hydrofarm sites not wanting to "provide a legal avenue to fund production of illegal substances". Hmmmmmmm, did Romer's Bill include something about MMJ in Colorado once again being illegal? Does Douchy McDoucherstien have an uncanny ability to be able to know which persons using for "illegal" grows and which one is not? If he has, congratulations! Hes smarter then the FBI DEA and CIA combined and should definetely get a job from them locating all these terrorists in the mist.
I hope people realize that both of these companies are participating in illegally blocking a small companies or individuals right to free trade and procurement of product. Does that mean that i shouldn't give medicine to a cancer patient for cheaper to meet their struggling needs? Should I make them go to the streets for medicine because "the streets" have been here longer?
What about everyone thats griping about prices of medicine being to high? I can tell you that anyone looking to start growing is now gonna have an initial start up cost that will be at least 2 to 3 times more expensive through Douchy McDoucherstiens establishment then through a garden center's wholesale. Hmmmmmmmmm, I wonder who that cost will be passed onto? If you want to really start attacking the price of MMJ I would highly recommend looking at the starting point of taxation and to me its seems to be blowing out Douchy's ass along with the rest of the smoke.
Example:
Xtrasun 1000w Convertible Ballast Sku BAC100A:
Douchy:$237.00
Hydrofarm MSRP: $209.95
Wholesale:$106.92
Wow! $20 + dollars over MSRP. You go Douche! Hopefully that extra money will go towards making your workers even sketchier, slower, and stupider.