Hey dude I've been watching your growing.
I can't wait to see how your LED growing is going and 10 days is a long time to wait for a update!
Give us some new pics! gotta luv pics!
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Hey dude I've been watching your growing.
I can't wait to see how your LED growing is going and 10 days is a long time to wait for a update!
Give us some new pics! gotta luv pics!
Whew! Was gone 7 days and all is well. My biggest concern was how much the pH would change. I left it at 5.3 and added several drops right before I left and it was 5.4 when I returned! I was expecting 6+ at least. The plants were growing right into the lights too so I raised them several inches. I'll try to post pics tonight.
Also, riddle me this...two of the plants are growing way faster/bigger than the rest and those two happen to be right in line with one of the sprayers. Is this coincidence(mixed bagseed, m/f) or can the little extra spray help them that much? See figure:
1 2 3 4
O O O
5 6 7 8
So the #'s=plants and O=sprayer......2 and 6 are the big ones. As you can see, the other two sprayers are slightly askew from the other plant sites, not right in the middle.
OK so my "#'s figure" last post came out wrong, just imagine 1 and 5 are the big ones, you get the idea right? You'll get a better idea by looking at the pics.
One plant looks like it may have balls. You can't see it in the pic, but I'll be keeping an eye on it.
Hey man, I would like to further discuss your EPILEPSY with you, as I have a sister and nephew with EPILEPSY. I live in your area and am new in town and would like to know how you deal with your EPILEPSY. Please email me at [email protected]. Thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by grownd
Ripped a male. Three have pistils. One is actually starting to bud.
looking joe perform a sacrifice on that male unless your thinking about seeds
i know you know that but thought id say it anyway
:smokin:
Anymore news Joe? Curious how everything turned out.
These were taken around 8/20. LST'd a couple to even out the canopy a bit.
So there are three slow growers that still haven't reached the screen. They're looking shabby and getting minimal light. I'm probably going to sacrifice them or maybe put em in a pot and see what Mrs. Nature has to offer.
They're still growing into the light causing a few burnt leaf tips. One branch broke out of its LST. They're looking good though. Lots of pistils. So it looks like I'll have two females out of 7. The three small sub-screen ones never had the chance to show sex, and were a lost cause so i eliminated them. It's ok though because there's really only room for those two anyway. They have pretty much been boss since day one.
pH was at about 5 today. It seems to be slowly dropping now for some reason.
Why?
1st pic is what I opened the door to today after 3days gone.
Pics 3-4: Chia Rockwool and Bart Simpson respectively.
Who said hydro was complicated?
Flushed the system w/ pH'd spring water then filled res w/ tap water. I let the tap water sit for a day to let the shit settle thus reducing my ppm's. I'm on a well so sometimes it's a bit gritty.
So should I be flushing with plain water every res change? I do so to keep the sprayers and tubes clean but is it really necessary? It's just such a bitch to do. The res is big and cumbersome in the small closet, maybe not the best fit for the space. I'm contemplating a different system next time. Maybe a few buckets? We'll see.
With the screen in place now I can't pull the res out, preventing access to the male hose attachment for draining, so I just sucked it all out with a shop vac and proceded to get it everywhere. I also accidentally sucked one of the leaves with the vac. Couldn't help but laugh! No damage done. The ladies need a good suckin' from time to time. peace
So one of the runts was removed and put into soil today; netpot, growcube, pellets and all. I will introduce her to the great outdoors. If it yields I'll let ya know.
A few pics. Things are looking good but...
My pH keeps dropping .3-.4 everyday since the last res change. Why? Someone please advise. Remember I'm still a hydronoob here.
I had slight nute burn after the last change as I upped the bloom to 3/4 strength but I added some plain water to dilute it a bit and seems fine now.
Got a hermie folks. Found a few balls yesterday, ripped em' off. Found more today, ripped em off. If it gets worse I'll chop her/he and just have some premie smoke. Just took a few puffs after drying a tiny bit in the oven and I'm a lil' buzzed. Balls are only on a few lower branches so far. Lets hope they don't spread, otherwise I'll be down to one soldier.
Pics taken on day 34 of Flower. Today is day 36.
I think I know what caused the hermie. The light timer has a small light on it and I think it was just enough to have an effect. So I covered it. There weren't too many balls, but I may get a few seeds. No biggie, they'll get used.
CO2 tank ran out, so I refilled it. $35
it only takes one of those balls to pollinate the whole plant, so unless you want seedy buds I'd suggest removing the hermaphrodite. Female plants only produce Resin glands to attract pollen, which is why resin glands are sticky, so pollen will stick to em, and once they've been pollinated, they stop producing resin/THC and put all their energy into seed production. so keep all your plants frustrated virgins until you harvest, that way they'll be the best they can be, but if you want/need seeds, go for it, but you said you already have clones comin, so why bother? just make sure that the clones are from the female plant, not the hermi.
Hope this helps! :smokin:
Thx JMorgan. Yeah I know the deal. A hand full of buds got pollenated and are showing seeds. I'm not worried about it. I'll just pick 'em out. Just want to let this grow run its course to give myself a better feel for the indoor process beginning to end. I'm in there often so I was able to remove most of the balls before they opened.
My cleanest res change yet. I was not going to do another res change until the final 2 week flush, but they were a bit nute burnt from my last nute change when I upped it to 3/4 strength. So it's back to 1/2 strength.
Being bagseed, I'm not sure when they'll finish. So based on their seemingly sativa dominance I'll base my schedule on 10 weeks of flowering. Pistils are still 99% white. Today is day 40 of flower. So I'll do 2 more weeks then start a 2 week flush and see where we are at that point.
Chuggin' along.
Calibrate your meters frequently kids! Mine was off by .4 Very important when the pH drops .2-.4 each day.
So I was concerned in the beginning of this grow that it would finish right when the outdoor finished and I'd be bombarded, but the indoor is definitely behind now, so that will free up some time. Maybe I'll even have time to pop a few new beans before indoor harvest to get them ready for next LED grow!
I am keeping an eye on this. Planning on doing something very similar in the immediate future. Still trying to decide lighting so this helps lots.
Hey Joefarmer... I am also following your thread. About to kick off a grow with my procyon and cfls (identical lights to yours + 2 watts per bulb) though I will be using soil and dwarf/autoflowering plants. I meant to use my procyon for my last grow but my first procyon broke :( and by time I had received my new light, i ended up using an hps 250watt. So excited to go procyon all the way. Particularly with low height plants. With LEDs not penetrating as much as HPS.. I'm hoping I might edge past 2.5 ounces with a SOG (8 1-1.5 foot plants plants) of autoflowers. I've only ever seen pure procyon and home depot style CFLs grow 2.5 ounces so I would love to see what your end weight is and how your grow goes. One this that is worrying me a bit is speed though.. procyon grows tend to take forever to mature. Having said that every one of the grows I've seen uses the most inappropriate strains for leds. Not all strains are equal under LED in my opinion. With autoflower plants not following light changes... touch wood... I might be able to follow a pretty normal grow schedule + a week or so. Gonna be interesting and hopefully pop out some personal in time for Christmas :)!
Anyway... please keep your thread going I am v interested in. Thanks for all the posts! Cheers!
Oh and btw - if your hermi's balls are growing out of the actual bud as opposed to growing in clusters by itself... that's how you get feminised seeds. A good little tip for controlling the balls is to paint calamine lotion (the pink stuff you can get from most chemists) onto the male balls only. This will stop them opening and pollinating. It's better doing that than chopping the balls off since when you chop... many more grow back in their place. A little something I picked up during my last grow where I had hermis. Hope it helps! And yes hermi bud is fine to smoke. Mine was great!
Thx Flippa!
Yeah mine are taking quite a while to mature. It's gonna be more than 10wks bloom time I think. 11-12? It seems they've had white pistils for ever! I've got maybe 5% red pistils.
I will have many seeds to remove after harvest but the bud will not be wasted. If I don't like the smoke there's always hash, butter, etc. I don't waste a bit. These 2 bagseed plants have pretty much taken over the closet. Scrog barely tamed them. Next grow I will not veg as long and hope to eventually have clones and do SOG style grows with one same strain. This seems more appropriate for LED grows due to the lack of light penetration as you mentioned.
peace
Hey JoeFarmer,
Definitely recommend doing lots of smaller plants either by sexing them earlier or by just growing dwarfs. Since you are using unknown seeds you might end up with monsters still even if you turn 12/12 when they are still small. My last grow I ended up with loads of dwarf plants (on purpose) and topped them after their 3rd set of leaves (meaning they were pretty damn small immature!). If I'd had more time, I would have topped them another time. Either way... I ended up with multiple cola 1.5 foot plants which were beautiful (those were under a 250hps). So much more manageable. I've grown monsters in the past that overwhelmed me and my closet. I know a lot of people are big on LST but I am lazy and topping is easier for me. Better than that is just growing plants that are dwarf in nature in the first place and limiting the pot size. Smaller pot = smaller plant = what I want! They still can bud real well but just need more attention with the nutrients. Having said that I am a soil grower not doing aero like you. Either way... good luck mate with this grow. Am well excited for you! I'll let you know how mine turns out. Starting to think I am only going to add CFLs during the last 2-3 weeks of flower since my space is quite small and I want lots of space around the procyon. This will be a v interesting test of the procyon. Even if I just pop out some popcorn bud... heat benefits FAR outweigh my HPS... and I'm going experimental this grow. The mission is to reap before Christmas. This is gonna be a true test ;). Cheers!
Question 4 everyone. When I do the final 2wk flush with plain H2O, does the water need to be kept at 5.8 or should it be more neutral?
Any help is much appreciated!
Not sure about hydro but for soil I would keep the water at the same PH as it's kept with nutes. I only use same PH throughout the grow whether plain or with nutes... for me that is between 6.6-8. I would guess the same principles apply for you but I've never grown using hydro/aerospring. If I were to use neutral PH7 water it would raise my soil PH to that which would mean some nutes would be locked out and the purpose of the flush is to get the plant to eat any nutes in the soil left over and eat the plant itself free of nutes. Ideally I like to see nearly all my fan leaves yellow and fall off by harvest. Then I know the girls are going to be tasty. Be interested what you hydro growers do re this. Good luck Joe Farmer! :)
Theyre almost ready. Another week or so. Turned the CO2 off yesterday. Temps rose several degrees. Up to 65-68 now. It was 60 for a bit with the cooler fall temps. I also have not turned my heat on yet so its only about 50 in the house. Who'd a thunk I might have to actually raise the temp in the closet?
so how are they looking? Are you pleased with potential yield despite the learning curve involved? A happy Procyon user? My autos have just sprouted and are on day 2 of grow... definitely loving the procyon so far. Early days though!! Keep us posted mate! Thanks :).
Oh yeah - and how have you found the smell? I heard procyons make the plants smell less because they are cooler and the plants don't sweat as much. How have you found it? You must be looking forward to harvest time! I'm rooting for ya :jointsmile:
hello farmer,
so how'd these ladies come out?
yeah?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.GoodMorning02
PC on the fritz. Sorry yall. Taking longer than I thought. Just chopped the hermie yesterday and the other has a few days left. Been flushing for over 3 weeks now! So they'll be nice and clean. The non hermie is looking great! dense colas and very purdy. pics soon!Quote:
Originally Posted by flippa
Flippa, Very happy with potential yield w/learning curve. Both plants dry will be close to 2oz. The hermie, being seedy will just be put into butter or the kief screen, haven't decided yet.
Happy Procyon user?....Absolutely!
Smell? It is minimal. 1st indoor grow though, so I have nothing to compare it with. I have no filtration, it's just vented into the attic and I get a slight whiff of it every now and then outside and inside near the attic hatch. I made a diy 5gal pail carbon filter but never installed it. Not sure it'll fit in the attic space anyway. I'm in a very safe place. It's all good!
Hey glad to hear its all going well buddy! :) I am so impressed with the vegging of my autoflowers with pure procyon am planning on letting them go till only about 3-4 weeks left of flower then will add a few cheap arse CFLs. I'm well impressed that they have flowered bang on time. Only just starting to put out hairs but I have my fingers crossed. I am wondering whether smaller plants (they'll end up 1ft-1.5ft) = better yield with pure procyon. What I would say is so far... Procyon has been a top notch light for me. Flowering is going totally as normal so far. Glad to hear you are pleased with your results! :rastasmoke:
Week 15 of flower... all clear trichs, a few ambers. I read somewhere that plants under LED have longer finish times. I don't want to wait too long though. Especially if what OldMac says is true (not to put him on the spot)...Plants under LED may never show amber trichs. If so, how do I know when to harvest? They sure as hell look ready. 95% red pistils(not that I judge by this), many yellowing fan leaves. Plus, I've got a BlueCityDiesel seedling waiting to takeover the tub!
So, the hermie has been dried,de-seeded,and ground up to be kiefed. I was saving the seeds as they were very healthy and nice looking. Great "tiger stripes". Had them (100+) in an open jar on the counter. One morning I came to find that they were all gone! Disappeared! Mouse! It ate (or hoarded) every seed in the jar and left me the shake. Oh well.
How likely is it that these seeds from a hermie would've produced hermie plants?
BTW. These buds are rock hard! Who said LEDs can't produce nice dense buds?
Hey Joe - Thanks so much for sharing your pics and process. 15 weeks of flower! So that is typical for LED? That is good to know. This has been a very interesting read. Thanks again.
So, there you have it. They're pretty nice. There were a few seeds from the hermie, but not too bad. They are very resinous, and smoke really nice although they could use more time in the jar. The taste is fine, nothing spectacular, but pleasant nonetheless. The plant yielded just over 2oz. Thank you all for reading and following along. I've got some bluecitydiesel seedlings at a couple weeks now, so stay tuned for that log! Gonna go make some hash now! :rastasmoke:
ILUVNUG:jointsmile:
So it's over a month now and I'm wishing I left them in jars this long. Suddenly the taste is awesome and potency increased almost double since harvest! Definately gonna grow this one again!